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His general stats are not good and about trophies he won, there is no big title like UEFA Europa League won by Jose Mourinho and his players years ago. We have to count unprecedented support of Manchester United on Ten Hag like very big transfer budget, a lot of given patience and time. He got more and better support than previous coaches and he did not perform better than ex-coaches of Manchester United.

This season, things are going to be worse than his last two seasons and in a third season as a head coach, if you fail to show good improvements, a sack is well deserved. Ten Hag need to sit down and analyze all things he did there with non biased mind. Maybe in Saudi Arabia, Cristiano Ronaldo is celebrating this sack against Ten Hag.

The statistics played were very unattractive in yesterday's match and several previous matches. Of the 2 trophies that have been lifted, this is a big support for Ten Hag being in head coaching at Manchester United.
A coach who has high totality must make many changes to the team in order to win the biggest league such as UEFA Europa as was achieved by Jose Mourinho. With the situation continuing to sink to the bottom of the standings, the team management must reconsider the contract next season. If they want changes, the first step is to find a suitable coach so they can return to the real caste.
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That is the reason why Erik Ten Hak was not fired but the FA Cup is not a big hope for a team like Manchester United. There are still many opportunities for Erik Ten Hak to evaluate the team and he must be able to improve the morale of the players so that they can work together better.
They actually have quality players but the collaboration has not been seen optimally so that every result obtained is less than satisfactory.
They could lose against West Ham and how could they possibly win against a stronger team and I saw that at the end of the match Manchester United's match was getting more chaotic.
The condition of the Manchester United team is really chaotic now so it is appropriate for the team management to take firm action against Ten Hag's coaching this season. Because I can't imagine if a team like Manchester United was relegated and had to play at a lower level again in order to rise back to the Premier League because of their suboptimal performance this season. Now everyone can see for themselves where Manchester United is in the standings and I think that is very painful for their own fans.
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Who else have seen this breaking news on Manchester United's official blog website: 'Erik ten Hag has left his role as Manchester United men’s first-team manager.'

I just came over this news this afternoon that Erik Ten Hag who was appointed in April of 2022 by the Manchester United management as the club's first team manager have been sacked from his 2 year long position. In their article they said;

"We are grateful to Erik for everything he has done during his time with us and wish him well for the future.
Ruud van Nistelrooy will take charge of the team as interim head coach, supported by the current coaching team, whilst a permanent head coach is recruited."

I know this have already generated mixed reactions over the internet with different comments flooding the official page of the Red Devils across all platforms especially on X. What's your own opinion on this big news?

Source: https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/man-utd-official-club-statement-on-erik-ten-hag-28-oct
I only found out now when I saw this. But I am not surprised by this news because it is very natural that the club then decided to end its collaboration with coach Erik Ten Hag. Because after all, the negative results that continue to haunt a club as big as Man United are not at all a good thing if they continue to be maintained.  And the hope is that by replacing with a new coach we will see the Man United club bounce back from this downturn. I hope this club finds a suitable coach and Man United can compete again for the title like in the past.
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Ten Hag always be claimed his achievement is much better than Manchester United previous manager because he can gets 2 trophy two season in a row but i don't think this achievement is impressive because those trophies is not from the major competitions
His general stats are not good and about trophies he won, there is no big title like UEFA Europa League won by Jose Mourinho and his players years ago. We have to count unprecedented support of Manchester United on Ten Hag like very big transfer budget, a lot of given patience and time. He got more and better support than previous coaches and he did not perform better than ex-coaches of Manchester United.

This season, things are going to be worse than his last two seasons and in a third season as a head coach, if you fail to show good improvements, a sack is well deserved. Ten Hag need to sit down and analyze all things he did there with non biased mind. Maybe in Saudi Arabia, Cristiano Ronaldo is celebrating this sack against Ten Hag.
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Well I think with the way the club was headed any other coach would have been a better choice I mean Manchester united were literally turning to something else with the club and all the player finding it hard to even play the ball MD yet the management still had faith in him cause that's the only reason for them to have left him this long because financial issue wasn't the problem, I believe he gained more confidence right after he won that FA cup last season.
Actually winning the FA Cup last season by Manchester United is still not enough for a team as big as Manchester United because the Premier League trophy itself is much better than the FA Cup even though they are both won in English competitions. And if Ten Hag does not really realize that as his motivation to keep fighting, I think Manchester United could end this season near the relegation zone and that would be very embarrassing for him and for all Manchester United fans in particular.
Ten Hag always be claimed his achievement is much better than Manchester United previous manager because he can gets 2 trophy two season in a row but i don't think this achievement is impressive because those trophies is not from the major competitions and the management is demanding Manchester United can able to compete with other big teams just like Manchester City ,Liverpool or Arsenal in Premier league but unfortunately Ten Hag is failed to achieved the target which given by the management

After Ten Hag leave i think Manchester United should be immediatelly to find new managers because they will faced hard schedules and some of names were appears as the candidates such as Zidane, Ruben Amorim and Xavi Hernandez but currently Ruud van Nistelrooy has been in charge as interm manager
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Who else have seen this breaking news on Manchester United's official blog website: 'Erik ten Hag has left his role as Manchester United men’s first-team manager.'



I just came over this news this afternoon that Erik Ten Hag who was appointed in April of 2022 by the Manchester United management as the club's first team manager have been sacked from his 2 year long position. In their article they said;

"We are grateful to Erik for everything he has done during his time with us and wish him well for the future.
Ruud van Nistelrooy will take charge of the team as interim head coach, supported by the current coaching team, whilst a permanent head coach is recruited."

I know this have already generated mixed reactions over the internet with different comments flooding the official page of the Red Devils across all platforms especially on X. What's your own opinion on this big news?

Source: https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/man-utd-official-club-statement-on-erik-ten-hag-28-oct
I think this is the news that many people have been waiting for.

I think the club should have done it since the end of last season. because if at that time a new coach was brought in, maybe Man United's situation would not be as bad as it is now.

Talking about the first sentence I made bold, to be honest here bro, not everyone wanted Eric ten hang to be sacked, it's mostly the fan of Manchester united that has been clamouring for his sacked for quite a while now, because am quite sure that most of the rival football fan wanted him to stay put so that Manchester united will keeps on performing badly and their team will definitely stand a chance of winning them if they ever met when he is still in charge, so it's very much obvious that it's only those that care most about the club that wanted him gone.

Then as for the timing of the sacking, I think I also share the same sentiment as you bro, it was actually a wrong timing, this is what they would have done at the end of last season, and by now, a new manager would ha already been in place, which am very much positive that the team wouldn't be struggling as they are doing right now, but generally speaking, the sacking of Eric ten hang is long overdue because his performance as the manager of Manchester united is just too bad for any top side not to pull the trigger.
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In the previous UCL match, Manchester City managed to win with 5 goal without reply and Haaland was able to provide 2 goal, but today in the Premier League, which is only against weak team like Southampton with the lowest ranking and without single win, there was only one goal scored by Haaland.
I took the win for Manchester City, Over 2.5 and 1st goal for Manchester City but with 1 - 0 win I lost the bet, it funny but anyway they can at least win and get the full 3 points.
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Once again Manchester City football team played brilliant in this match and gave good performance in this match and that is big reason of their win . Top performer was E. Haaland and he did goal at 5 minutes and after that no player could do any goal in this match. When we see track record of both teams then we collect data in the favor of Manchester City team because they are good team and all players of that team are quality players and they learn from their mistakes and in the future I am watching them at higher level.The shots of Manchester City team were 22 amd from which 8 were on target and pass accuracy of that team was 92 percent and fouls were 9 .
Well they are the best here for the last few seasons with a goal machine figure who always brings Manchester City to victory even in some crisis conditions, Haaland will always be the spearhead for Manchester City as long as he continues to be maintained and does not go to another team and I hope Haaland can become Manchester City legend like other star players who have now left European football.

By the way in two days we will see big match that Manchester City will play and that is in the EFL Cup, they will play against Tottenham away, of course Tottenham will definitely play very well at their home and this is certainly very interesting.
What do you think, will your favorite team Manchester City win again in this match?
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Well I think with the way the club was headed any other coach would have been a better choice I mean Manchester united were literally turning to something else with the club and all the player finding it hard to even play the ball MD yet the management still had faith in him cause that's the only reason for them to have left him this long because financial issue wasn't the problem, I believe he gained more confidence right after he won that FA cup last season.

Winning the FA Cup won him some time because sacking him with that title under his arms would have looked weird although from my point of view understandable regardless. Ten Hag was lucky that he was allowed to play that final at all and as I mentioned before, I think the biggest problem Manchester United was facing at the time was that of a lack of alternatives. You can fire ten Hag, but what's next then? Van Nistelrooy now takes over, but this is not a solid solution for the time being. It is again a risk that Manchester United in this case has to take anyway.
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Who else have seen this breaking news on Manchester United's official blog website: 'Erik ten Hag has left his role as Manchester United men’s first-team manager.'



I just came over this news this afternoon that Erik Ten Hag who was appointed in April of 2022 by the Manchester United management as the club's first team manager have been sacked from his 2 year long position. In their article they said;

"We are grateful to Erik for everything he has done during his time with us and wish him well for the future.
Ruud van Nistelrooy will take charge of the team as interim head coach, supported by the current coaching team, whilst a permanent head coach is recruited."

I know this have already generated mixed reactions over the internet with different comments flooding the official page of the Red Devils across all platforms especially on X. What's your own opinion on this big news?

Source: https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/man-utd-official-club-statement-on-erik-ten-hag-28-oct
I think this is the news that many people have been waiting for. Not because we think Ten hag is a bad coach overall. But I agree with the opinion of some people here who say that Ten Hag is just not suitable to manage a big club full of football stars like Man United. Ten hag is probably only good at a club that develops young players into stars like at Ajax. But at Man United it is clear that Ten Hag is having difficulty managing the star players there.

I think the club should have done it since the end of last season. because if at that time a new coach was brought in, maybe Man United's situation would not be as bad as it is now. And to be honest, even though Man United is currently bringing in a new coach, we can't immediately expect this team to recover easily. Because it will take time to get this team back on a better track.
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This news is definitely very happy news for Manchester United, I have been waiting for such news for a long time.
It brings hope because by sacking Ten Hag, Manchester United will move onward with another coach who potentially can be better than Ten Hag, and can help Manchester United to have performance improvements, but results will only be known with time.

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However, the current manager of Manchester United must adopt better strategies than Ten Hag. Already we have seen that Manchester United have played very badly this season and their current situation is not that good, so now a new coach is very much needed.  A new coach taking over Manchester United must be experienced and responsible enough to take the team forward. There is still time for Manchester United to improve on the position they are currently in and if they can improve their game they can put the team in a good position in the points table. We want Ten Hag's sacking and a good coach to bring Manchester United and put the team in a good position.
After a successful era of Sir. Alex Ferguson, Manchester United already worked with many coaches and many times we saw they hired, sacked a coach, replaced him with a new one but failures continued. Will this time be a different sack effect and a new coach appointment be able to bring Manchester United to success?

Rumor is Manchester United are planning to use Ruud as an interim temporary coach while they are discussing on a coach of Sporting Lisbon, Ruben Amorim.

He is a leading candidate in Manchester United list, and they seem to have another bet on another coach with lack of experience in management of big clubs. It can be a repeat of their mistake with Erik Ten Hag who only succeeded with Ajax Amsterdam before taking a job at Manchester United 3 years ago.
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It seems it's no longer a rumor anymore. Manchester United has sacked Ten Hag. This is exciting news for Manchester United fans around the world. Whats your take on this? Is it too early, perhaps they would have waited for next year January.

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🚨 EXCLUSIVE: Manchester United sack manager Erik ten Hag. 54yo Dutchman informed by #MUFC of decision this morning. Ruud van Nistelrooy asked to take charge on interim basis with rest of staff remaining in position for now. W/ @AdamCrafton_ @TheAthleticFC

https://www.daveockop.com/latest-news/manchester-united-sack-erik-ten-hag-with-interim-manager-reveale
This this is the news Manchester United fans has been waiting for long to hear and it is has finally came to reality for me the news came late Manchester United would have sack Erik Ten Hag long ago but is not yet late though.
Manchester United has really tried for Erik Ten Hag to retain him as Manchester United manager they gave him time to see if he can turn things around for the team but yet it was still getting worst as they keep on with their poor performance.

I wish Manchester United can get a better couch a team such as Manchester United shouldn't be playing football as if they are unknown team if you can cheek the performance of Chelsea this season you will see that it has improved because they were not keeping couch who is not doing well for long that is why they are big team Manchester United is meant to sack Erik Ten Hag early before now.

This news is definitely very happy news for Manchester United, I have been waiting for such news for a long time. However, the current manager of Manchester United must adopt better strategies than Ten Hag. Already we have seen that Manchester United have played very badly this season and their current situation is not that good, so now a new coach is very much needed.  A new coach taking over Manchester United must be experienced and responsible enough to take the team forward. There is still time for Manchester United to improve on the position they are currently in and if they can improve their game they can put the team in a good position in the points table. We want Ten Hag's sacking and a good coach to bring Manchester United and put the team in a good position.
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I was not sure that arsenal will be able to play Liverpool even draw, but look at what happened, arsenal was limited because of the less capacity we have and we were still able to play them draw is just another way to show that playing arsenal is not child's play a lot of things have happened and I was not really sure if saka was going to play and just look at the way is presence changed the game their was a time I was arguing with someone about last season that foden is better than saka and the kind of reasons the person gave was a convincing one and their is nothing I could say that foden have the resources that is KDB, but saka don't even have a good support and thay is why because if you watch saka ball last two season saka was a heat.
Seriously the yesterday match between Arsenal and the Liverpool was very a surprise match, because nobody expected that Arsenal can able to standard well to build a powerful performance, due to the some of their players that are injured included Saliba that collected red card in their last match: which make their performance scattered in there last match.

The Arsenal capacity was actually less, but we that make an wonderful performance and lead them to a draw the: although was saying that the game will be a difficult match for the Arsenal that they will not have even one single chance of winning the game, and the when the match kickoff Saka is the first player that breaks the Liverpool net with hot shots with in 10 minutes of time.

In Arsenal's match against Liverpool, I personally also doubted that Arsenal would perform that well in that match because yes, considering Arsenal's injured players and so on, it made me believe that Arsenal would lose that match because the opponent that Arsenal faced was of course a team that had good performance. well and certainly at that time I thought that Arsenal would lose.

but yes, something surprising happened and of course Saka was really surprising and he also played well and he scored a goal with a hard and accurate kick which of course opened up higher spirits for the Arsenal players and Arsenal fans. Yes, of course, now we can conclude that Arsenal's performance is getting better and what is certain is that in this EPL we will again see fierce competition in the EPL like last season where the 3 teams, namely Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City, will compete fiercely. and of course, if you look at the difference in points, of course the three teams are not that far apart because Arsenal is only 5 points different from Manchester City, while the difference is 4 points from Liverpool. Of course there is still a chance for Arsenal to become champions as long as they continue to consistently win in the upcoming matches, of course even if they become runners up again, of course that is a good thing for Arsenal.
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Actually winning the FA Cup last season by Manchester United is still not enough for a team as big as Manchester United because the Premier League trophy itself is much better than the FA Cup even though they are both won in English competitions. And if Ten Hag does not really realize that as his motivation to keep fighting, I think Manchester United could end this season near the relegation zone and that would be very embarrassing for him and for all Manchester United fans in particular.

That is the reason why Erik Ten Hak was not fired but the FA Cup is not a big hope for a team like Manchester United. There are still many opportunities for Erik Ten Hak to evaluate the team and he must be able to improve the morale of the players so that they can work together better.
They actually have quality players but the collaboration has not been seen optimally so that every result obtained is less than satisfactory.
They could lose against West Ham and how could they possibly win against a stronger team and I saw that at the end of the match Manchester United's match was getting more chaotic.
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It seems it's no longer a rumor anymore. Manchester United has sacked Ten Hag. This is exciting news for Manchester United fans around the world. Whats your take on this? Is it too early, perhaps they would have waited for next year January.

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🚨 EXCLUSIVE: Manchester United sack manager Erik ten Hag. 54yo Dutchman informed by #MUFC of decision this morning. Ruud van Nistelrooy asked to take charge on interim basis with rest of staff remaining in position for now. W/ @AdamCrafton_ @TheAthleticFC

https://www.daveockop.com/latest-news/manchester-united-sack-erik-ten-hag-with-interim-manager-reveale
This this is the news Manchester United fans has been waiting for long to hear and it is has finally came to reality for me the news came late Manchester United would have sack Erik Ten Hag long ago but is not yet late though.
Manchester United has really tried for Erik Ten Hag to retain him as Manchester United manager they gave him time to see if he can turn things around for the team but yet it was still getting worst as they keep on with their poor performance.

I wish Manchester United can get a better couch a team such as Manchester United shouldn't be playing football as if they are unknown team if you can cheek the performance of Chelsea this season you will see that it has improved because they were not keeping couch who is not doing well for long that is why they are big team Manchester United is meant to sack Erik Ten Hag early before now.
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He's the main man for the award and many as expecting Vinicius Jr to be the winner but they seem to forget that both club and country Rodri has been outstanding and he was the one who gave City their first ever champions league and he also showed how good he is in his national team in the Euros where they went unbeaten.
With all these achievement why won't he be the winner? Vinicius Jr still had a long way to go before winning such award and since the time of Messi and Ronaldo many thought it would be Mbappe and Haaland who would be competing for this award but I think these two guys don't have what it takes to win 1 of the Ballon d'Or till they retire.

I think you’re bringing the wrong stats here, Rodri won the Champions league with Manchester city in the 2022/23 season and this award is for 23/24 season where Real Madrid won the Champions league, the premier league that Rodri won last year he wasn’t even included in the team of the season so I don’t get how he tick that box, he played well in euros but didn’t provide any clutch moments. Personally I think he should have won the award last year ahead of Messi and not this year which he wasn’t that too impressive.

I heard he lost the award due to class and fair play, another criteria just added of recent, if that been the case and Vinicius doesn’t deserve it then there is Carvajal who won everything with Madrid and won same euro with Spain and Rodri or his is arrogant too. There is also Lautrao Martinez who guided his country to the Copa America and his club to two domestic titles which to me are enough to get him the award

You don't get my point, me bringing up the 22/23 champions league they won was because of his performance like his goal gave City the title and is because of those performance that he has been bringing to the table when the team needed it the most that I'm trying to point out. Take a good look at all Rodri has done for the Citizens and his national side, I can't compare it to that of Vinicius Jr.
If that be the case and let's say Rodri was out of the picture I'd go for the Madrid right back Carvajal because he's another player that has been in good form since Euros and this very season. As for Vinicius I some how think he can also get a chance at the Ballon d'Or but his temper is something he needs to work on.
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It was rumored early on before the league started that Erik Ten Hag would not be renewed, after much consideration the team finally gave him the opportunity... From this opportunity it turned out badly... From these many defeats Manchester United must pay large compensation so there is no other way but to make a decision and must pay according to the contract.

So currently Manchester United is eyeing the Sporting CP coach... Rúben Amorim - contact is ongoing if negotiations are not tough then it could be that Manchester United will get the coach as soon as possible.

 Rúben Amorim is not too much worse than Erik Ten Hag.

I don't think money is a big deal here. It is at least not that big of a deal that Manchester United would have decided to keep ten Hag for any longer only because they thought otherwise they would owe him a lot of money. It costs the club far more in cash and club value if they keep losing and playing like that. It has a severe impact on Manchester United as a global brand and their recognition around the world. That is why I am sure they would have immediately acted if they could, but I think they were not sure whom to sign to replace ten Hag because there are hardly any available experienced coaches out there.
Of course for Man Utd to sack Erik ten Hag definitely the club has to pay a huge compensation well to me it's a sacrifice that the board had to offer because Man Utd had  never been as bad as they were now 14th position on table despite all the huge amount of money spent last summer, in the mean time Rúben Amorim whose contract negotiation is on going the question now is "can he manage a big team like Man Utd?" Because if he is eventually signed by Man Utd there is going to be a lot of pressure on him to deliver quickly and put Man Utd back in a good shape.
Switching a coach is undoubtedly a decision that has to be made with a lot of care, even more so when it comes to Erik ten Hag who is still officially a Manchester United employee. Yes compensation costs are a threat but for a club as large as United the most key factors are solidity and on pitch efficiency. At the present time during the course of a season, a team is on the verge of playoffs and the team management obviously has to look for ways to make drastic changes in order to experience advancement. It the board of directors wishes to start a new era, this will be an investment for returning the club to the glory days.

What we know about Ruben Amorim is that his previous achievements do indicate their potential innbringing out the best of a promising trainer. While it will be daunting to join a big team such as United the entire support by the club and the players, then he stands a bright chance at positively influencing the team. Of course, there are expectations going to be placed on him, but again, hiring a youthful coach with new ideas and new styles that had positive results at his former team could bring new dimension into United. Only if Amorim can work on building a good team in the span of the mentioned span can one expect that this change marks the beginning of United challenging for titles again.
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Well I think with the way the club was headed any other coach would have been a better choice I mean Manchester united were literally turning to something else with the club and all the player finding it hard to even play the ball MD yet the management still had faith in him cause that's the only reason for them to have left him this long because financial issue wasn't the problem, I believe he gained more confidence right after he won that FA cup last season.
Actually winning the FA Cup last season by Manchester United is still not enough for a team as big as Manchester United because the Premier League trophy itself is much better than the FA Cup even though they are both won in English competitions. And if Ten Hag does not really realize that as his motivation to keep fighting, I think Manchester United could end this season near the relegation zone and that would be very embarrassing for him and for all Manchester United fans in particular.
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He's the main man for the award and many as expecting Vinicius Jr to be the winner but they seem to forget that both club and country Rodri has been outstanding and he was the one who gave City their first ever champions league and he also showed how good he is in his national team in the Euros where they went unbeaten.
With all these achievement why won't he be the winner? Vinicius Jr still had a long way to go before winning such award and since the time of Messi and Ronaldo many thought it would be Mbappe and Haaland who would be competing for this award but I think these two guys don't have what it takes to win 1 of the Ballon d'Or till they retire.

I think you’re bringing the wrong stats here, Rodri won the Champions league with Manchester city in the 2022/23 season and this award is for 23/24 season where Real Madrid won the Champions league, the premier league that Rodri won last year he wasn’t even included in the team of the season so I don’t get how he tick that box, he played well in euros but didn’t provide any clutch moments. Personally I think he should have won the award last year ahead of Messi and not this year which he wasn’t that too impressive.

I heard he lost the award due to class and fair play, another criteria just added of recent, if that been the case and Vinicius doesn’t deserve it then there is Carvajal who won everything with Madrid and won same euro with Spain and Rodri or his is arrogant too. There is also Lautrao Martinez who guided his country to the Copa America and his club to two domestic titles which to me are enough to get him the award
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28 years old Spain and Manchester City midfielder Rodri won his first Ballon d'Or award as he beats Vinícius Jr and Jude Bellingham two Real Madrid stars with his amazing performance for Spain who won fourth European title and Manchester City who is leading the Premier League for last few years.

He is third Spaniard who won this title and first defensive midfielder who achieve this biggest award on planet for soccer players

He's the main man for the award and many as expecting Vinicius Jr to be the winner but they seem to forget that both club and country Rodri has been outstanding and he was the one who gave City their first ever champions league and he also showed how good he is in his national team in the Euros where they went unbeaten.
With all these achievement why won't he be the winner? Vinicius Jr still had a long way to go before winning such award and since the time of Messi and Ronaldo many thought it would be Mbappe and Haaland who would be competing for this award but I think these two guys don't have what it takes to win 1 of the Ballon d'Or till they retire.
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Arsenal got a 2-2 result and they couldn't beat Liverpool and that made Manchester City and Guardiola happy. Because after this draw, both Liverpool and Arsenal lost points to give Manchester City a good chance to take their place back in the first place of the Premier League.

The match went the way Manchester City wanted it. Arsenal and Liverpool ended in a draw, and Manchester City won their match, which makes them in the first position; they have been able to take over the first position from Liverpool. I was expecting Liverpool to win the match so that they would be able to maintain the first position, but they couldn't, Manchester City took over the first position from them, and they are currently in second position.
 
The season is still early, and they can still take over the first position from Manchester City. No one is sure of who will be winning the league yet because both Manchester City, Arsenal, and Liverpool are currently performing well, and they are fighting for the league title.
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