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While I do agree that what Enzo did was bad, we are talking about football players here, we wouldn't expect political or social awareness from them all that much, the only talent we expect them to go be good at is kicking a ball, and sure we wouldn't want them to be racist neither, at the very least, but racist chant was mainly regards to football attacking each other type of thing, basically grinding each others gears. If he is racist in his real life, like if any of the players with a different skin colour or race ever felt unhappy with his actions or words, then yeah he should be waived right away. But if he is normally very normal, and treats everyone equally, then just one chant to mock other team isn't really that complicated at all to see.

Football players aren't known for their smart decisions, God knows how many football players I have seen drunk driving as well, they may kill someone one day, that seems worse, and yet we have seen so many of them, hundreds of them all around the world, and it is still happening as well. This is why do not expect them to make good decisions, they are mostly morons, expect them to hit the ball very well, if they do that then they are fine.
I think so bad what did by Enzo Fernandez when celebrating their Copa America 2024 winning by singing bad to France national team exactly with racism, its can't acceptable between Copa America 2024 winner and France national team have difference competition but its not trues had to sing bad with the loser team.
All football players must respect each other exactly after the match and not problem how they can make celebration after winning Copa America 2024 but singing bad or racism to other national team is very bad did by Argentina national team and Enzo Fernandez exactly his team mates dominance from France.
Current internal condition of Chelsea team seems difficult and Enzo Maresca need to find good solution exactly Chelsea have many players from France, believe or not many Chelsea's players not happy with Enzo Fernandez and I doubt they will can work each other for next season.
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While I do agree that what Enzo did was bad, we are talking about football players here, we wouldn't expect political or social awareness from them all that much, the only talent we expect them to go be good at is kicking a ball, and sure we wouldn't want them to be racist neither, at the very least, but racist chant was mainly regards to football attacking each other type of thing, basically grinding each others gears. If he is racist in his real life, like if any of the players with a different skin colour or race ever felt unhappy with his actions or words, then yeah he should be waived right away. But if he is normally very normal, and treats everyone equally, then just one chant to mock other team isn't really that complicated at all to see.

Football players aren't known for their smart decisions, God knows how many football players I have seen drunk driving as well, they may kill someone one day, that seems worse, and yet we have seen so many of them, hundreds of them all around the world, and it is still happening as well. This is why do not expect them to make good decisions, they are mostly morons, expect them to hit the ball very well, if they do that then they are fine.
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Without clearing names like Harry Maguire, Scott MC Tominay, Victor Lindelof, Aaron Wan Bisakka, Antony, Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho and Casemiro sitting on the bench, Manchester United are obviously going nowhere.

Erik Ten Hag knows this and same goes with the board and management.
I do have the same belief as you. If Manchester United is not ready to sell off the set of players you mentioned, Manchester United is not going anywhere close to the top-the-table league(Premier League) this upcoming season.
It's not about launching a new away kit is the problem, is to win the PL trophy because that's where everyone's focus is, to see Manchester United lifting the PL trophy. One way they can do that is to reshuffle the team players. Many players have stayed overdue in the team, and their impact on the team is no longer felt. They need to be let go, not to be holding them down because they are England by origin
Very true that many players have overstayed in them and they are becoming redundant and monotonous in the team. They are afraid to take new challenges and they are getting fat by the fat salary given them. If they want to stay, they need cut their salary, strip their jersey and get ready to fight for it. A player like Rashford although is still young need to sit up, he should be sold or loaned. He needs new environment to improve and not giving one season wonder and two seasons flop. Erik Ten Hang himself is becoming just like them which is the reason he should be changed. He is unable to influence the boys and it seems that the boys are influencing him instead. I remember the first season of his arrival in Manchester United, he made the lazy ass sit up but now they have all returned to their old lazy state. Oh! I miss my dear old Manchester United.
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Shocked after seeing this picture and I wonder why Arsenal and Arteta let Emile Smith Rowe leave the team. But after understanding and finding out all these reasons, I became more positive thinking.



There are several reasons, but what is certain is that Arsenal is in the stage of building a team to be better and on the one hand, Arsenal also needs income to cover previous losses. Meanwhile, Emile Smith Rowe has had a career with Arsenal for several seasons and has not made a big contribution and his performance has even declined. So there is no other choice. Arsenal have to sell Emile Smith Rowe for €41 million and it looks like Fulham wants to get this player.



This is not shocking news at all. If you cared for Emile Smith Rowe, you should be happy to see him leave Arsenal. ESR has wasted his talent away at Arsenal. It's best for him to leave the club. ESR is not 23 years old forever. He wasted much time overextending his stay, trying to make the first team. Now, he's reached a point where it should be obvious for him to leave the club. ESR minutes are limited with how vital Odegaard is at Arsenal. So, i repeat it again, it's the best decision for the future of his career. I guarantee you that at a team like Fulham, ESR can become a starter. ESR can also regain his level and maybe push for England.
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I agree with you that it definitely takes time to strengthen the team in terms of bigger plans. But after occupying the third place in the table in 2022-23 season, going to eighth place in the table in 2023-24 season is not a good result for me. I bet on Manchester United many times last season and Manchester United disappointed me. I have to say we didn't see a better performance than Manchester United last season.

Ten Hag is a very one-sided coach. And I think this is Ten Hag's biggest weakness. I can also mention some other downsides of Ten Hag. For example, Ten Hag is not on good terms with many of the squad's players. If the relationship between the coach and the players is not good then I don't see any need to keep him in the team just to pay wages.

Ten Hag have also added two young players to their squad at high prices in the last two seasons. Neither Hojlund nor Antony have proved their mettle yet. I think Yamal and Osimhen are much better players than Antony and Hojlund. I think Manchester United's two signings were a mistake. Manchester United will not benefit much from these two players.
Nobody said it's a good position, but when you look at these players in the club, you'll see that he Erik Ten Hag is no magician, there's a style of play and football he wants to play, but these players cannot execute the job. Have you forgotten what Ralf Rangnick said about Manchester United wiping out almost all these players? If you're a core Manchester United fan, you should know what it's like to be a United fan and what the club use to be like. Manchester United current squad lacks depth and not just that, and also standards.

How can you praise the Ten Hag if you really think that Manchester United's current squad lacks depth? Ten Hag has already had two years to strengthen Manchester United's squad. And yet you think Manchester United's squad lacks depth. Ten Hag has had ample time and opportunity to strengthen this squad. And yet you think this squad lacks depth so isn't that Ten hag's failure?

But personally I think Manchester United's squad is strong enough. Ultimately, this squad has the potential to be in the top 5 of the table. I think so.



In between, why the unnecessary comparisons with Victor Oshime, Lamine Yamal and these other lads. You should be concerned about Manchester United more than these baseless comparisons

This was not an unfounded comparison. Ten Hag spent 96 million to add Antonh to the squad. It was a huge amount. Despite spending such a large amount, Manchester United does not get better performance from Antony. This is definitely something to worry about. Ten Hag also spent 75 million to add Hojlund to the squad.If the purchase price of these two players was less than 50 million then maybe I was not blame Ten hag.
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that the Manchester United hierarchy have not demanded a top-four finish from Erik Ten Hag  next season. They say he’s not under pressure to deliver a top-four finish at Old Trafford.

Manchester United are no longer the club they used to be.  If you don’t demand a top-four finish, what then could be the barest minimum demand for success at Manchester United under Sir Jim Ratcliffe. At this point in time, I think Manchester United have given up on the EPL and Champions League. They seem content with just being contenders in the FA Cup and Carabao Cup.
How can a big club like Manchester United not demand a top four finish at the end of the season from their current manager. I don't think setting target for a manager translates to putting him under pressure rather its a way of making him stay committed and work hard in other to achieve what is expected of him. One thing I've observed since Erik ten Hag became Manchester United coach is that the club is now very okay with whatever position he finishes provided that he'll help win a League Cup or the English FA Cup at the end of the season of which I think is absolutely poor for a big club like United.
Erik ten Hag have been given all the supports he needs to succeed as well as all the financial backings that should help him succeed at the club so if he fails to perform well next season, Manchester United should show him the exit door

And I'll still say it that the top 4 doesn't even show that they want something this upcoming season because I see no reason why they choose the top 4 as a target, ETH knows better and it would have been better to not even utter any statement than coming out with this one, right from day one ETH has never been pressured and this suppose to be what they should have used on him to sit up, it only shows that the club has lost that greatness in them like they're not in any position to challenge the other clubs for the title.
Like I said before that the whole thing should have been all about rebuilding the team not finishing at the top 4, if that's how they want to start counting their achievement then Arsenal would have to count those years of finishing at the top 4 as an achievement because Man UTD fans do criticize the Gunners that they have no target no plans and all that but now Man UTD have made finishing at the top 4 as their number priority what a world.
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It is reported by The Guardian that the Manchester United hierarchy have not demanded a top-four finish from Erik Ten Hag  next season. They say he’s not under pressure to deliver a top-four finish at Old Trafford.

Manchester United are no longer the club they used to be.  If you don’t demand a top-four finish, what then could be the barest minimum demand for success at Manchester United under Sir Jim Ratcliffe. At this point in time, I think Manchester United have given up on the EPL and Champions League. They seem content with just being contenders in the FA Cup and Carabao Cup.
How can a big club like Manchester United not demand a top four finish at the end of the season from their current manager. I don't think setting target for a manager translates to putting him under pressure rather its a way of making him stay committed and work hard in other to achieve what is expected of him. One thing I've observed since Erik ten Hag became Manchester United coach is that the club is now very okay with whatever position he finishes provided that he'll help win a League Cup or the English FA Cup at the end of the season of which I think is absolutely poor for a big club like United.
Erik ten Hag have been given all the supports he needs to succeed as well as all the financial backings that should help him succeed at the club so if he fails to perform well next season, Manchester United should show him the exit door
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Teams that have been in runner-up positions in the Premier League are often forgotten by many people because what will be considered great is a team that is able to become champions and is also able to win several trophies in other competitions. But for next season, I think Arsenal will rise with more consistent determination from the start of the season in order to beat all their rivals in the Premier League because Arsenal still has old players and also coach Arteta who generally knows what they have to improve since early next season.
Many of us say the same thing, Arsenal will be a threat to Manchester City next season yeah in not just a prediction because we know Arsenal have the ability to do it, it's just that so far we haven't seen any more effort from Arsenal to compete with Manchester City I mean Arsenal haven't got any players for the attacking line even though players in this position are really needed. I always keep an eye on the list of new players from Arsenal and so far Arsenal have only brought in one player in the goalkeeper position.

You are right, Arsenal have the ability to take Manchester City down because their squad is also strong, and it always surprises me when I see people underrating Arsenal. I think Arsenal is capable of getting any title regardless of how tough the competition is, just that they always lose performance towards the end of the season, and it always affects them from getting the title.

I think the mentality or luck of winning a title is yet to locate Arsenal. If not, obviously everyone knows that Arsenal is really trying to make it possible for them. However, I think it is not compulsory for Arsenal to get new players because they still have a strong squad that leads them to the top of the table every season, and none of their positions is weak to the extent we are talking about.
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It is reported by The Guardian that the Manchester United hierarchy have not demanded a top-four finish from Erik Ten Hag  next season. They say he’s not under pressure to deliver a top-four finish at Old Trafford.

Manchester United are no longer the club they used to be.  If you don’t demand a top-four finish, what then could be the barest minimum demand for success at Manchester United under Sir Jim Ratcliffe. At this point in time, I think Manchester United have given up on the EPL and Champions League. They seem content with just being contenders in the FA Cup and Carabao Cup.

I think we the fans just judge this people too unfairly seriously, first of all this is another English journalist reporting this, they have in the past reported lots of fake news but let me believe this is true, I don’t still see anything wrong about this. We can’t say someone that has spent billions on travels and purchase of players will not hunt for success if not for anything but for his own profit but look Sir Jim Ratcliffe is trying not to buy success here which the past Manchester United hierarchy having been trying to do but rather build the success himself and gradually, if you ask me this is the best way to go about. Manchester United have have spent millions on players that are already proven and they ended up flops.

If we even look at the current teams that are doing well we will see that they tried to rebuild the team in gradually too, Manchester city in the early 2010s got a new owner who did same, Liverpool gave Klopp time without champions league, Arsenal tried that with Arteta without top 4 and today they are comfortably considered tittle contenders. So if Manchester United reduces the pressure and solve their problems gradually they could get to long term success than the quick fix that people want
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Teams that have been in runner-up positions in the Premier League are often forgotten by many people because what will be considered great is a team that is able to become champions and is also able to win several trophies in other competitions. But for next season, I think Arsenal will rise with more consistent determination from the start of the season in order to beat all their rivals in the Premier League because Arsenal still has old players and also coach Arteta who generally knows what they have to improve since early next season.

Many of us say the same thing, Arsenal will be a threat to Manchester City next season yeah in not just a prediction because we know Arsenal have the ability to do it, it's just that so far we haven't seen any more effort from Arsenal to compete with Manchester City I mean Arsenal haven't got any players for the attacking line even though players in this position are really needed. I always keep an eye on the list of new players from Arsenal and so far Arsenal have only brought in one player in the goalkeeper position.
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It is reported by The Guardian that the Manchester United hierarchy have not demanded a top-four finish from Erik Ten Hag  next season. They say he’s not under pressure to deliver a top-four finish at Old Trafford.

Manchester United are no longer the club they used to be.  If you don’t demand a top-four finish, what then could be the barest minimum demand for success at Manchester United under Sir Jim Ratcliffe. At this point in time, I think Manchester United have given up on the EPL and Champions League. They seem content with just being contenders in the FA Cup and Carabao Cup.

Is even clear that they don't have any positive plans on getting back to those glorious days they do compete for the EPL title and other trophies, as it is they're telling the fans that finishing at the top for in the log come next season would be one of their greatest achievement and I ask myself where are all these coming from? I was expecting them to say something different from what we have been hearing  like they want to rebuild the club but with this I don't see the players to put much effort while playing and this statement alone can change the decision of some who wanted to sign a new deal to think of leaving the club. This club winning mentality has dropped so quick that even the manager is going to find it hard to manage, UTD is a joke to me from this statement.
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Today's latest pre-season match result for the Man City vs Celtic match is 3-4. Man City lost in that match, but because it was only a pre-season match, I can understand this result. This is the same as the defeat experienced by several strong teams from the Premier League in this pre-season match. It's just that De Bruyne doesn't seem in the pre-season match. But I see Pep Guardiola giving opportunities to several young Man City players such as Jahmai Simpson-Pusey, Jadel Katongo and several other players. And that was their debut in the Man City senior team. And even though Man City lost that match, it seems like Pep Guardiola was quite satisfied with the performance of the young players in that match. And it seems that victory is not the target of this match.
Yesterday, the match between Celtic and Manchester City  football teams was excellent and we saw brilliant competition in this match because both teams are of same level and they performed well in this match and that was thrilling match and audience enjoyed that match because audience like the match of more goals and we saw 7 goals in this match from which Celtic team did 4 goals and Manchester City  team did 3 goals and Celtic football team won the match in the end. Kühn was top performer in this match because he did two goals in this match and gave base to the team and after that we saw very confident body language by Celtic players and they did 4 goals in this match and Furuhashi did third goal and Palma did fourth goal of  match.
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It is reported by The Guardian that the Manchester United hierarchy have not demanded a top-four finish from Erik Ten Hag  next season. They say he’s not under pressure to deliver a top-four finish at Old Trafford.

Manchester United are no longer the club they used to be.  If you don’t demand a top-four finish, what then could be the barest minimum demand for success at Manchester United under Sir Jim Ratcliffe. At this point in time, I think Manchester United have given up on the EPL and Champions League. They seem content with just being contenders in the FA Cup and Carabao Cup.
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I think this is the first pre-season game Arsenal have played and it was against a premier league club Bournemouth which ended in a draw. Seeing some of the players who never had the much playing time on the pitch was a joy to me, Vieira has always been wonderful each time he is given the opportunity to play for the Gunners and I think this is why Arteta need to consider starting him because they have good legs in that midfield position that's more reason he needs this guy to always feature in any game.
Thomas Teye Partey was also magnificent in that game and some fans have gone to say if this guy continue with this good form the DM with Rice is going to be hard to break, I believe Partey still has a chance in that starting 11 of the Gunners but the main problem is Arteta always have interest in getting players to crowd a particular position, is best to spread the whole thing rather focusing on the goalkeeper and midfield department when buying new players, it will help the team especially going into the new season because all eyes will be on the Gunners to see what they have to offer this time around.
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My eyes can't see this wrong, right? It's not a matter of a draw in normal time but everything has to be decided by a penalty shootout in the pre-season match between Arsenal and Bournemouth and this really invites laughter. Cheesy

It is not surprising that pre-season matches will always be boring and there will be no excitement even though the favorite team is the favorite and like other top EPL teams, Arsenal also find it quite difficult to win. Bournemouth, who will still participate in the EPL next season, is taking this opportunity to find out how to stop Arsenal when they face each other in an official match later. Well, in the end Arsenal won very narrowly on penalties and at least they had to immediately improve their game.
This game was a probably warming up in anticipation to what should be expected in the nearest future when he league eventually begins. Bournemouth actually did performed so well because I didn't expect that would be this firm against Arsenal, I was expecting even if it was a pre season game, Arsenal would express some kind of superiority that will be such that others are possibly going to probably learn from seeing that Arsenal will be looking very ready for the new season but then with Bournemouth they even made me want to have some good anticipation with their performance in the season, I'm very much aware that things can actually turn out very different from what happened at pre season but i expected better from Arsenal.

These games won't prove anything from the performance of the two teams, we know Arsenal is a good team with Arteta and since he joined in Arsenal he has helped Arsenal to get improve more by hiring more players and helping Arsenal to have a better team.  
they got a draw in the friendly match against Bournemouth but this can't be a good reason to say Arsenal is a weak team.
 
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Teams that have been in runner-up positions in the Premier League are often forgotten by many people because what will be considered great is a team that is able to become champions and is also able to win several trophies in other competitions. But for next season, I think Arsenal will rise with more consistent determination from the start of the season in order to beat all their rivals in the Premier League because Arsenal still has old players and also coach Arteta who generally knows what they have to improve since early next season.
Arsenal since the beginning of the season played very well even consistently but at the end of the season they always made the same mistake by playing inconsistently. So I am not surprised anymore if Arsenal will play well at the beginning of the season because they often do that in the last two seasons.

Runner Up is never considered because the main goal of the league competition is to be able to get the EPL league trophy, so we often forget when asked who the runner-up team is every season, not only the EPL league but this happens in all leagues.
Arsenal has a good squad and has a coach who is quite experienced in the last two seasons so this season Arsenal should not only be good at the beginning of the season but they must be good until the end of the season if they want to win the EPL league trophy.
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I do have the same belief as you. If Manchester United is not ready to sell off the set of players you mentioned, Manchester United is not going anywhere close to the top-the-table league(Premier League) this upcoming season.
It's not about launching a new away kit is the problem, is to win the PL trophy because that's where everyone's focus is, to see Manchester United lifting the PL trophy. One way they can do that is to reshuffle the team players. Many players have stayed overdue in the team, and their impact on the team is no longer felt. They need to be let go, not to be holding them down because they are England by origin

You’re really directing this to those listed players that are Manchester United and nothing else. You have a point though and the earlier they take action the better for them. Winning the premier league trophy is not an easy task and even in the next season Manchester United doesn’t stand a chance to, even if they replace all existing players, I don’t think they can because they would only not be able to adapt to each others football very well in the first season. Manchester United is still in the building stage, so I don’t think they can win the premier league title now with this present coach and time.

I agree with you. People won't remember you were in second place. Everyone will only remember the champions and history will also only record the champions. Arteta is a great coach who has succeeded in making Arsenal a very solid team. They even really deserve to be champions. I think everyone agrees that they are better than Manchester United. But as you said, what a club needs is not the claim that they have a solid squad, but the number of trophies they have won. Even though Manchester United played worse than Arsenal, fortunately they managed to win the FA Cup.

With the win Manchester United got last season that gave them the FA Cup, it’s enough for them to be boastful of it and make other teams feel jealous of their success. The premier league has been a very competitive ground for all team since two seasons now but the winner and the runner up every season always happen to be the same team. All other teams that fall beneath those two teams always fight big to make it to that point. This is a very big competition and for you to win as a team, you’ve to put that’s extra effort in order to become the winner. Arsenal can continue to finish as runner up and if Manchester United keep finishing below 4th position and always win the FA Cup, they’ll be rated more than Arsenal in overall history success.
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I agree with you that it definitely takes time to strengthen the team in terms of bigger plans. But after occupying the third place in the table in 2022-23 season, going to eighth place in the table in 2023-24 season is not a good result for me. I bet on Manchester United many times last season and Manchester United disappointed me. I have to say we didn't see a better performance than Manchester United last season.

Ten Hag is a very one-sided coach. And I think this is Ten Hag's biggest weakness. I can also mention some other downsides of Ten Hag. For example, Ten Hag is not on good terms with many of the squad's players. If the relationship between the coach and the players is not good then I don't see any need to keep him in the team just to pay wages.

Ten Hag have also added two young players to their squad at high prices in the last two seasons. Neither Hojlund nor Antony have proved their mettle yet. I think Yamal and Osimhen are much better players than Antony and Hojlund. I think Manchester United's two signings were a mistake. Manchester United will not benefit much from these two players.

Nobody said it's a good position, but when you look at these players in the club, you'll see that he Erik Ten Hag is no magician, there's a style of play and football he wants to play, but these players cannot execute the job. Have you forgotten what Ralf Rangnick said about Manchester United wiping out almost all these players? If you're a core Manchester United fan, you should know what it's like to be a United fan and what the club use to be like. Manchester United current squad lacks depth and not just that, and also standards.

Ten Hag is one sided I have never head. Are you a Ronaldo fan man or Jadon Sancho fan? These are Erik Ten Hag had a little issue with and has been solved.
In between, why the unnecessary comparisons with Victor Oshime, Lamine Yamal and these other lads. You should be concerned about Manchester United more than these baseless comparisons
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Shocked after seeing this picture and I wonder why Arsenal and Arteta let Emile Smith Rowe leave the team. But after understanding and finding out all these reasons, I became more positive thinking.

He is still quite young and indeed he still has the feasibility to be at a club that needs more actually rather than continuing to stay at Arsenal which does look that Emile Smith Rowe is quite a hassle in competition in the line up.

Arsenal's midfield is filled with several talented players and Rowe seems to have difficulty keeping up in the competition as the core line up so when there is an opportunity to find a new club with guaranteed more flying hours I think it will be the right decision for him.

From some of the news I've read in recent days Fulham are one of the clubs serious about signing Rowe and I think that could be a good alternative for Rowe because after all, with his current age which is still quite young, it is only natural that he must make a good contribution at a club that needs his services and that is also for the sake of his future career in the end.
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I agree with you. People won't remember you were in second place. Everyone will only remember the champions and history will also only record the champions. Arteta is a great coach who has succeeded in making Arsenal a very solid team. They even really deserve to be champions. I think everyone agrees that they are better than Manchester United. But as you said, what a club needs is not the claim that they have a solid squad, but the number of trophies they have won. Even though Manchester United played worse than Arsenal, fortunately they managed to win the FA Cup.
Teams that have been in runner-up positions in the Premier League are often forgotten by many people because what will be considered great is a team that is able to become champions and is also able to win several trophies in other competitions. But for next season, I think Arsenal will rise with more consistent determination from the start of the season in order to beat all their rivals in the Premier League because Arsenal still has old players and also coach Arteta who generally knows what they have to improve since early next season.
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