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Quote from: FlamingFingers on February 12, 2020, 04:57:18 AM

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Quote from: hilariousetc on February 11, 2020, 04:31:42 PM

Going unbeaten in the league would be a huge achievement though and I hope he doesn't throw that away.

But the FA or UEFA doesn't give you any extra awards/silverware for going unbeaten in the league :/

A golden trophy will be presented to them if eventually they stay unbeaten in premier league, it was given to Arsenal back then in 2003-04 Premier league season, it's a unique achievement if you ask me, it's worth playing his first team, regardless of the club he's playing in the Epl,

Well, there you go, tomahawk9. Who doesn't want a golden trophy? Cheesy

Quote from: Naida_BR on February 12, 2020, 05:42:53 AM

Even if you are given a golden trophy this will be forgotten in two years.

No it won't. People still talk about Arsenal's "Invincibles" team. You don't even need to say their name and people know what you mean by The Invincibles. Liverpool are also on track to to beat the Premier League points record and people still talk about City doing that and being the first team to get 100 points which was a huge achievement and will be again if Liverpool do it and maybe even surpass that. If Liverpool win the league and break records I can guarantee you people will still be talking about this for years to come.

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Quote from: Coyster on February 12, 2020, 09:56:30 AM

It's going to be difficult to choose between Mane and Virgil who's the better player for Liverpool, I'll choose mane because of the number of goals he scores. If Liverpool are to beat Athletico Madrid, then Mane would have a pivotal role to play.

Both of them are very much needed in Liverpool, especially when dealing with Atletico Madrid this month, Mane is an outstanding striker and Mohamed Salah has an important role in the match.
I think that if these two attackers will play and play against Atletico Madrid it will be easier.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on February 12, 2020, 05:42:53 AM

Quote from: FlamingFingers on February 12, 2020, 04:57:18 AM

Quote from: tomahawk9 on February 11, 2020, 05:33:27 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on February 11, 2020, 04:31:42 PM

Going unbeaten in the league would be a huge achievement though and I hope he doesn't throw that away.

But the FA or UEFA doesn't give you any extra awards/silverware for going unbeaten in the league :/

A golden trophy will be presented to them if eventually they stay unbeaten in premier league, it was given to Arsenal back then in 2003-04 Premier league season, it's a unique achievement if you ask me, it's worth playing his first team, regardless of the club he's playing in the Epl,

Even if you are given a golden trophy this will be forgotten in two years.
The win of the title will be remembered neither the unbeaten record nor the number of the unbeaten games Liverpool endured. Not point for me to play with his first team, it is better to do some rotation and win the Champions League along with the premier league. This would be a bigger achievement.

As a real Football lover, if you are being asked that who won the premier league with an unbeaten run, I'm sure if 100 football lover are asked 90-95% will know it's Arsenal.

The unbeaten run is still being remembered today because it's not easy to have such record in such a competitive league like Epl the total number of title won by a club cannot be easily remember, but you can easily recall that a certain team won a trophy unbeaten

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Quote from: leea-1334 on February 12, 2020, 06:05:25 AM

Norwich got all 3 points from Manchester City guys,,, do not forget that.

Liverpool and Manchester City aren't on the same level this season, while City have struggled for form, Liverpool have been taking the league by storm and still look set to continue, breaking numerous records on the way. And also when City played Norwich, Norwich were in good form then, but that form seem to have faded off as the season went on, so this game is a different game for the both teams.

Quote from: DeathAngel on February 12, 2020, 08:02:17 AM

Sadio Mane is their best player, possibly on a par with Van Dijk. I love to watch him play, Africa must be so proud of him. Atletico will be a tough game but they’re not the team they once were.

It's going to be difficult to choose between Mane and Virgil who's the better player for Liverpool, I'll choose mane because of the number of goals he scores. If Liverpool are to beat Athletico Madrid, then Mane would have a pivotal role to play.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on February 12, 2020, 09:37:10 AM

Quote from: tomahawk9 on February 11, 2020, 05:33:27 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on February 11, 2020, 04:31:42 PM

Going unbeaten in the league would be a huge achievement though and I hope he doesn't throw that away.

But the FA or UEFA doesn't give you any extra awards/silverware for going unbeaten in the league :/

The EPL title is already a massive achievement for Liverpool, but their next target should be winning the CL (back-to-back), not becoming the new "The Invincibles". Going all-in on the unbeaten run (as in being afraid of dropping points so they field the best starting XI vs Norwich or any other team three days before a CL match) would look to me like Klopp & Co are being tryhards.

True, but it's still something everybody will talk about and it's a title not many achieve regardless of whether it comes with any silverware or not. There's also no guarantees that Liverpool will win the Champion's League either, and if not, going unbeaten in the PL is something to add on to their domestic title. There's no reason why they can't go for both either.

CL will also be the next target after winning the EPL this season because the trophy title is in sight, so even if opponents are stronger than Liverpool they are still able to face it like last season and now Liverpool are stronger unbeaten in the domestic league this course will carry over to the next UCL match.

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I’d love to win the title & the CL, if it’s a choice between being unbeaten in the PL & getting that gold trophy or maybe resting players before CL games in an attempt to win the double I’d rather do the latter.

Any way, our back up players do a good job any way, for example if Klopp decides to play the likes of Keita, Lallana, Milner & Origi against Norwich with the CL game in mind next week we’ll beat Norwich any way.

Everybody needs to be match fit & sharp to try & win the CL any way so there win’t be too much rotation by Klopp.
We need 6 wins to officially become PL champions, it’ll be done by April.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on February 11, 2020, 05:33:27 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on February 11, 2020, 04:31:42 PM

Going unbeaten in the league would be a huge achievement though and I hope he doesn't throw that away.

But the FA or UEFA doesn't give you any extra awards/silverware for going unbeaten in the league :/

The EPL title is already a massive achievement for Liverpool, but their next target should be winning the CL (back-to-back), not becoming the new "The Invincibles". Going all-in on the unbeaten run (as in being afraid of dropping points so they field the best starting XI vs Norwich or any other team three days before a CL match) would look to me like Klopp & Co are being tryhards.

True, but it's still something everybody will talk about and it's a title not many achieve regardless of whether it comes with any silverware or not. There's also no guarantees that Liverpool will win the Champion's League either, and if not, going unbeaten in the PL is something to add on to their domestic title. There's no reason why they can't go for both either.

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on February 11, 2020, 03:56:56 PM

Quote from: Naida_BR on February 11, 2020, 03:00:30 PM

Liverpool is unbeatable all this time. I think that in this game they are going to lose points.
Champions League games are coming and I think that Klopp will start being more focused on those games, doing some rotation in the next Premier League games.

I seriously doubt Klopp will risk losing any points in the EPL this year. There are three days between the match at Norwich and the match in Madrid, plenty of time for travel and rest. This will be an easy victory for LFC, and they are hungry for the points and setting records. If you're trying to convince yourself that taking the odds on Norwich is a smart move, nothing I say will stop you, but don't bet the rent money.

And at least pick a better club if you're really wanting to bet against Liverpool. Lolol. I mean Newcastle with Steve Bruce and Sheffield United with Wilder are two that could outfox Klopp and a squad that could be starting to feel the fatigue.

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Quote from: Strongkored on February 11, 2020, 11:41:30 PM

Quote from: Indymoney on February 11, 2020, 06:41:27 PM

This season surely belong to Liverpool I am sure they will beat Atletico Madrid as well because now they are not good as they was few years back even they are fighting hard in La Liga for next year Champions League spot against Getafe and Sevilla I am feeling Liverpool will go with Double this season without any big trouble.

And the good news from LFC is Their Striker Sadio Mane ready to play this saturday against Norwich also when Champion League against Atletico, so their chances are greater to win both matches.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1240254/Liverpool-news-Jurgen-Klopp-Sadio-Mane-injury-update-Norwich-Atletico-Madrid-rumours

Sadio Mane is their best player, possibly on a par with Van Dijk. I love to watch him play, Africa must be so proud of him. Atletico will be a tough game but they’re not the team they once were.

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Norwich is not the team that can get points from Liverpool, but it will be hard to stay in this form till the end of Premier league season, bearing in mind that CL will be in final stage, still i do think that until the title is secured formally, Premier league is a top priority for LFC

Aside from that, Liverpool doesn't have any free points to offer to Norwich. The target has always been to get all full 3 points. Winning the premier league is on top of our priority list at the moment and Norwich won't be able to stand it our way. This year, We're pushing limits. Regardless of the fact that we would face Athletico Madrid in the champions league, winning the premier league still remains on top of our priority list. But it doesn't mean we'll lose easily to Athletico Madrid though.

Norwich got all 3 points from Manchester City guys,,, do not forget that. Football is round and any team that can play hard and take their chances can have an amazing day, especially when the opponents do not have an amazing day;)

Nothing is taken for granted and I am sure Klopp and Liverpool knows this.

Norwich are sitting rock bottom with 7 points behind the safe zone so it will be so difficult for them to win over Liverpool especially when they have the worst defense in the league and second worse attack which is will not be good for them when you see liverpool destroying better teams with their second team like they did to Everton so j expect from the game to end a 2-0 win for the reds.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on February 12, 2020, 05:42:53 AM

Quote from: FlamingFingers on February 12, 2020, 04:57:18 AM

Quote from: tomahawk9 on February 11, 2020, 05:33:27 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on February 11, 2020, 04:31:42 PM

Going unbeaten in the league would be a huge achievement though and I hope he doesn't throw that away.

But the FA or UEFA doesn't give you any extra awards/silverware for going unbeaten in the league :/

A golden trophy will be presented to them if eventually they stay unbeaten in premier league, it was given to Arsenal back then in 2003-04 Premier league season, it's a unique achievement if you ask me, it's worth playing his first team, regardless of the club he's playing in the Epl,

Even if you are given a golden trophy this will be forgotten in two years.
The win of the title will be remembered neither the unbeaten record nor the number of the unbeaten games Liverpool endured. Not point for me to play with his first team, it is better to do some rotation and win the Champions League along with the premier league. This would be a bigger achievement.

Just this thing I was talking with someone here on face to face as no one will remember how you won margin of win nothing counts peoples will cound only win if Liverpool won double this could be rememberd after some years no one will count how many matches they won so Klop surely also thinking same he want to complete double instead of remaining unbeaten in EPL.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on February 11, 2020, 05:57:39 PM

Quote from: casperBGD on February 11, 2020, 04:34:07 PM

Norwich is not the team that can get points from Liverpool, but it will be hard to stay in this form till the end of Premier league season, bearing in mind that CL will be in final stage, still i do think that until the title is secured formally, Premier league is a top priority for LFC

Aside from that, Liverpool doesn't have any free points to offer to Norwich. The target has always been to get all full 3 points. Winning the premier league is on top of our priority list at the moment and Norwich won't be able to stand it our way. This year, We're pushing limits. Regardless of the fact that we would face Athletico Madrid in the champions league, winning the premier league still remains on top of our priority list. But it doesn't mean we'll lose easily to Athletico Madrid though.

Norwich got all 3 points from Manchester City guys,,, do not forget that. Football is round and any team that can play hard and take their chances can have an amazing day, especially when the opponents do not have an amazing day;)

Nothing is taken for granted and I am sure Klopp and Liverpool knows this.

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Quote from: FlamingFingers on February 12, 2020, 04:57:18 AM

Quote from: tomahawk9 on February 11, 2020, 05:33:27 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on February 11, 2020, 04:31:42 PM

Going unbeaten in the league would be a huge achievement though and I hope he doesn't throw that away.

But the FA or UEFA doesn't give you any extra awards/silverware for going unbeaten in the league :/

A golden trophy will be presented to them if eventually they stay unbeaten in premier league, it was given to Arsenal back then in 2003-04 Premier league season, it's a unique achievement if you ask me, it's worth playing his first team, regardless of the club he's playing in the Epl,

Even if you are given a golden trophy this will be forgotten in two years.
The win of the title will be remembered neither the unbeaten record nor the number of the unbeaten games Liverpool endured. Not point for me to play with his first team, it is better to do some rotation and win the Champions League along with the premier league. This would be a bigger achievement.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on February 11, 2020, 05:33:27 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on February 11, 2020, 04:31:42 PM

Going unbeaten in the league would be a huge achievement though and I hope he doesn't throw that away.

But the FA or UEFA doesn't give you any extra awards/silverware for going unbeaten in the league :/

A golden trophy will be presented to them if eventually they stay unbeaten in premier league, it was given to Arsenal back then in 2003-04 Premier league season, it's a unique achievement if you ask me, it's worth playing his first team, regardless of the club he's playing in the Epl,

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Quote from: swogerino on February 12, 2020, 02:46:36 AM

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Quote from: Strongkored on February 11, 2020, 11:41:30 PM

And the good news from LFC is Their Striker Sadio Mane ready to play this saturday against Norwich also when Champion League against Atletico, so their chances are greater to win both matches.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1240254/Liverpool-news-Jurgen-Klopp-Sadio-Mane-injury-update-Norwich-Atletico-Madrid-rumours

Sadio Mane has bigger importance for Liverpool than Mo. Salah because he contributed more for the whole tactic operations than Salah. Another plus point for Mane is he is not selfish like Salah. People talked too much about the conflict of interests between Mane and Salah, that I disagree because the main cause came from Salah's selfishness.

Turning back to the point, on-post context, the good news for Mane's fitness condition is very good for Liverpool and sure if he can play at his best, Liverpool has good odds to win that match.

I think that Salah is one of the key players that has led Liverpool to such success.In fact for me is the main player,the one who has contributed more than others in my opinion to Liverpool success without removing anything to all the other players.Of course other players have to give him assists so he can transform them to goals but overall I think he was the most important man for Liverpool during these last years.

When the match against Southampton alone, M.salah gave 2 goals for Liverpool that means it is still very much needed on the front lines like this M.salah and now has scored 14 goals I'm sure M.salah will pursue goals from Jamie Vardie who currently has 17 goals.
Liverpool are lucky to have a solid and strong player in their defense so no one can make up for their defense in the EPL.

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Quote from: hd49728 on February 12, 2020, 01:41:52 AM

Quote from: Strongkored on February 11, 2020, 11:41:30 PM

And the good news from LFC is Their Striker Sadio Mane ready to play this saturday against Norwich also when Champion League against Atletico, so their chances are greater to win both matches.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1240254/Liverpool-news-Jurgen-Klopp-Sadio-Mane-injury-update-Norwich-Atletico-Madrid-rumours

Sadio Mane has bigger importance for Liverpool than Mo. Salah because he contributed more for the whole tactic operations than Salah. Another plus point for Mane is he is not selfish like Salah. People talked too much about the conflict of interests between Mane and Salah, that I disagree because the main cause came from Salah's selfishness.

Turning back to the point, on-post context, the good news for Mane's fitness condition is very good for Liverpool and sure if he can play at his best, Liverpool has good odds to win that match.

I think that Salah is one of the key players that has led Liverpool to such success.In fact for me is the main player,the one who has contributed more than others in my opinion to Liverpool success without removing anything to all the other players.Of course other players have to give him assists so he can transform them to goals but overall I think he was the most important man for Liverpool during these last years.

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Quote from: hd49728 on February 12, 2020, 01:41:52 AM

Another plus point for Mane is he is not selfish like Salah. People talked too much about the conflict of interests between Mane and Salah, that I disagree because the main cause came from Salah's selfishness.

You are fueling the fire by doing it. They don't have any problem with each other and get along really well on and off the pitch. Even if there is a problem it has gone already. If you want to continue debating which one is more 'selfish' then bringing some stats would be better.

I suggest you add the stats for potential assists from both players, key passes, ball recoveries, etc that can show how a player contributes in defense and chance creation plus wasted chances from both of them.

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Quote from: Strongkored on February 11, 2020, 11:41:30 PM

And the good news from LFC is Their Striker Sadio Mane ready to play this saturday against Norwich also when Champion League against Atletico, so their chances are greater to win both matches.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1240254/Liverpool-news-Jurgen-Klopp-Sadio-Mane-injury-update-Norwich-Atletico-Madrid-rumours

Sadio Mane has bigger importance for Liverpool than Mo. Salah because he contributed more for the whole tactic operations than Salah. Another plus point for Mane is he is not selfish like Salah. People talked too much about the conflict of interests between Mane and Salah, that I disagree because the main cause came from Salah's selfishness.

Turning back to the point, on-post context, the good news for Mane's fitness condition is very good for Liverpool and sure if he can play at his best, Liverpool has good odds to win that match.

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Quote from: Indymoney on February 11, 2020, 06:41:27 PM

This season surely belong to Liverpool I am sure they will beat Atletico Madrid as well because now they are not good as they was few years back even they are fighting hard in La Liga for next year Champions League spot against Getafe and Sevilla I am feeling Liverpool will go with Double this season without any big trouble.

And the good news from LFC is Their Striker Sadio Mane ready to play this saturday against Norwich also when Champion League against Atletico, so their chances are greater to win both matches.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1240254/Liverpool-news-Jurgen-Klopp-Sadio-Mane-injury-update-Norwich-Atletico-Madrid-rumours

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Norwich is not the team that can get points from Liverpool, but it will be hard to stay in this form till the end of Premier league season, bearing in mind that CL will be in final stage, still i do think that until the title is secured formally, Premier league is a top priority for LFC

Aside from that, Liverpool doesn't have any free points to offer to Norwich. The target has always been to get all full 3 points. Winning the premier league is on top of our priority list at the moment and Norwich won't be able to stand it our way. This year, We're pushing limits. Regardless of the fact that we would face Athletico Madrid in the champions league, winning the premier league still remains on top of our priority list. But it doesn't mean we'll lose easily to Athletico Madrid though.

This season surely belong to Liverpool I am sure they will beat Atletico Madrid as well because now they are not good as they was few years back even they are fighting hard in La Liga for next year Champions League spot against Getafe and Sevilla I am feeling Liverpool will go with Double this season without any big trouble.

Do not worry about Liverpool going forward because they will be fine just a few obstacles in the champions league because the opponents are very different from the major leagues.
But it was able to be overcome by Klop, if the UCL trophy is regained this season then this will be seen as a large and most ferocious team undefeated.
I expect Liverpool will get the trophy again.

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