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Topic: [PRESALE] Xenio Blockchain | 🌟🌟🌟 Decentralized Gaming Blockchain🌟🌟🌟 - page 5. (Read 16128 times)

newbie
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Lol Whatevva. Welcome to Lauda's red club.

This nemgun fellow has tried this before with Blumedex (and other projects).

Check out post #93. Read the whole thread if you have time.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1542256.80

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"Promotion to help you take a decision  Wink

- 500% bonus for the first participation
- 100% untill midnight"
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500% bonus and NO TAKERS. This failed for him and he has been refining his fund-raising techniques ever since.

StakeToken ICO (in French)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15157005

Veserus Exchange
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/recruitment-veserus-exchange-1697208
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1693034.new#new
newbie
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It would seem, anyone asking questions here is labeled a troll. Yet, they keep saying "feel free to ask questions." None of mine have been answered.

People will put their money into this, regardless of what others and I ask or say.

Good luck with that folks.

link to their dealings concerning NVO scam. Xenio is their new scam. Same developer. Same crack squad developed and his loyal group of scammers.

https://safenetforum.org/t/nvo-decentralized-exchange-crowdsale/13608/916

They had a similar pitch for NVO and have delivered zero proof of work.



This group has several people posting fake comments like the ones that followed right after i posted this warning to everyone. The developer is the same for each Xenio and NVO. Same group. Look at the team and look at this horrendous forum showing their character. Look at the people spamming my account saying i am not trustworthy. Both happened today after i posted. Just read the thread and research NVO and the 6 month scam that has been run. Decide for yourself.   
full member
Activity: 2520
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I think this project has alot of potential to grow. The idea of decentralized gaming can attract alot of people as gaming is one the most popular leisure activity. I think this the the first coin based upon PON system which is unique.
LOOKING FORWARD TO INVEST!!

I strongly agree to that. Gaming has a lot of people that are hooked into compared to other sports and will be probably one of the biggest in the near future. still looking forward for the launch of this

yes true because of modern technology are now people focusing in the internet games
this is an awaiting project for those people enjoying playing games.
sr. member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 262
I think this project has alot of potential to grow. The idea of decentralized gaming can attract alot of people as gaming is one the most popular leisure activity. I think this the the first coin based upon PON system which is unique.
LOOKING FORWARD TO INVEST!!

I strongly agree to that. Gaming has a lot of people that are hooked into compared to other sports and will be probably one of the biggest in the near future. still looking forward for the launch of this
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
I think this project has alot of potential to grow. The idea of decentralized gaming can attract alot of people as gaming is one the most popular leisure activity. I think this the the first coin based upon PON system which is unique.
LOOKING FORWARD TO INVEST!!
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
It would seem, anyone asking questions here is labeled a troll. Yet, they keep saying "feel free to ask questions." None of mine have been answered.

People will put their money into this, regardless of what others and I ask or say.

Good luck with that folks.

link to their dealings concerning NVO scam. Xenio is their new scam. Same developer. Same crack squad developed and his loyal group of scammers.

https://safenetforum.org/t/nvo-decentralized-exchange-crowdsale/13608/916

They had a similar pitch for NVO and have delivered zero proof of work.

hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
How is the Pre-Sale going? Would like to hear an official reply on this. Interesting in knowing what the team thinks about the current pause in the sale of first round.
newbie
Activity: 29
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It would seem, anyone asking questions here is labeled a troll. Yet, they keep saying "feel free to ask questions." None of mine have been answered.

People will put their money into this, regardless of what others and I ask or say.

Good luck with that folks.
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0

Plus he can launch 50+ VMs from a single 1gb of ram, he comes from the future, oh an he can also fake a blockchain's daemon, he should fake bitcoin's blockchain instead of wasting his time here, he could get billions there, he have for sure graphen circuits, quantum computers, and the ghost of einstein at home.


Huh?

50+ VMs from a single 1GB? who said this?

you can run 100+ VMs with 1GB of fully reserved per VM on a standard 8 core PC with a lite distro, and you can even over provision if you don't have 128gb of ram.
And you may use Docker which would be even less overhead.


trolling? you are either fraudulent or didn't think this through. I am waiting for you to answer how you will solve the fundamental flaw in Xenio.

Lets make this simple and ignore the game server part that i have already explained is not difficult to do.
as the  lead 'blockchain' dev  stated

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they are rewarded for how many connections serve for their kind of service, so a gameserver is rewarded for how many active players have, a voice server for how many ppl are chatting (connected to that server, not actually talking)

Explain, how you intend to prevent a voice server from being rewarded by having fake users connected?

I say it again, Xenio can never work as you state or gain value unless you solve this issue and you have not given one valid answer.

by not answering and stating 'i don't like your attitude so I'm not going to tell you' it just all adds up to being a scam.

I do work for an investment group and that is why i originally brought up these questions, of course they will not be investing in Xenio and now I'm more here in my spare time to expose what you are doing to the public and others.
newbie
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you should understand that you where very hostile before... and you make me wonder why, you talk very well now but because of your bad start i will not provide details, its wrong anyway to provide details only here because few ppl will get informed, wait for the announcements on the site.

Thanks.

that is pretty much the worst excuse ever for not knowing how to solve the serious flaws in Xenio

'Hey guys, we'll take all your money first then tell you how we are going to fix something that cannot be fixed'

i am sincere, try to find that anywhere.... you will all get informed about that in a more formal form than here.... where you can't really know if i am the one i say i am.


Hi nick, sorry it was yani's birthday, we haven't taken any rest since 6 months so i had to had a party with im and let everyone get some rest, by the way we ate a greate "m'hammer" it is an algerian dish, like "mechoui". I know that you are sleeping now, but i think we should be more present here. I advise you to forget about Davis troll, he is supposed to work for an investment fund, however, he keeps on trolling, it is not a problem, he is a signature campaign by himself. You can reply to him from time to time, if the thread goes down in the ranks. for him, a blockchain is a centralized company where people have to connect to, while it is a sharing between all the users, check the old posts. Plus he can launch 50+ VMs from a single 1gb of ram, he comes from the future, oh an he can also fake a blockchain's daemon, he should fake bitcoin's blockchain instead of wasting his time here, he could get billions there, he have for sure graphen circuits, quantum computers, and the ghost of einstein at home.

I advise you to get back to work with Kostas for the contracts, and forget about this troll, let Stav learn more about Swarm. Do you have news about the client, we need more updates. I understood your message
regarding the client, it is actually starting by creating a user, while it should start from a coinbase, it should have been done this way originally, but because of the delay it wasn't really possible. I advise you to put Aleks on it, to move as fast as possible and coordinate the work to let the blockchain be a decentralizd game publisher, this way the game developers will be able to start implementing their games, and the game servers could start to do their work. We will just have then to add the match making for the gamers.

Also, work with ben about the technical specs to let him write them down. Ben, if you are reading, join the discussion.

It would be good to keep a discussion history here, in order to let future blockchain devs or students preparing thesis to get informations or tips about how a team work.

don't forget to say happy birthday to Yani, once i finish the nvo release, i will be back.

happy birthday yanni!!!!
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 533

you should understand that you where very hostile before... and you make me wonder why, you talk very well now but because of your bad start i will not provide details, its wrong anyway to provide details only here because few ppl will get informed, wait for the announcements on the site.

Thanks.

that is pretty much the worst excuse ever for not knowing how to solve the serious flaws in Xenio

'Hey guys, we'll take all your money first then tell you how we are going to fix something that cannot be fixed'

i am sincere, try to find that anywhere.... you will all get informed about that in a more formal form than here.... where you can't really know if i am the one i say i am.


Hi nick, sorry it was yani's birthday, we haven't taken any rest since 6 months so i had to had a party with im and let everyone get some rest, by the way we ate a greate "m'hammer" it is an algerian dish, like "mechoui". I know that you are sleeping now, but i think we should be more present here. I advise you to forget about Davis troll, he is supposed to work for an investment fund, however, he keeps on trolling, it is not a problem, he is a signature campaign by himself. You can reply to him from time to time, if the thread goes down in the ranks. for him, a blockchain is a centralized company where people have to connect to, while it is a sharing between all the users, check the old posts. Plus he can launch 50+ VMs from a single 1gb of ram, he comes from the future, oh an he can also fake a blockchain's daemon, he should fake bitcoin's blockchain instead of wasting his time here, he could get billions there, he have for sure graphen circuits, quantum computers, and the ghost of einstein at home.

I advise you to get back to work with Kostas for the contracts, and forget about this troll, let Stav learn more about Swarm. Do you have news about the client, we need more updates. I understood your message
regarding the client, it is actually starting by creating a user, while it should start from a coinbase, it should have been done this way originally, but because of the delay it wasn't really possible. I advise you to put Aleks on it, to move as fast as possible and coordinate the work to let the blockchain be a decentralizd game publisher, this way the game developers will be able to start implementing their games, and the game servers could start to do their work. We will just have then to add the match making for the gamers.

Also, work with ben about the technical specs to let him write them down. Ben, if you are reading, join the discussion.

It would be good to keep a discussion history here, in order to let future blockchain devs or students preparing thesis to get informations or tips about how a team work.

don't forget to say happy birthday to Yani, once i finish the nvo release, i will be back.
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
that is it, a Lead Dev who cannot answer fundamental questions?

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they are rewarded for how many connections serve for their kind of service, so a gameserver is rewarded for how many active players have, a voice server for how many ppl are chatting (connected to that server, not actually talking)

ignoring game servers,
how do you stop fake users joining a fake voice server in order to stake more coins?

and how to stop them scaling this up?
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0

you should understand that you where very hostile before... and you make me wonder why, you talk very well now but because of your bad start i will not provide details, its wrong anyway to provide details only here because few ppl will get informed, wait for the announcements on the site.

Thanks.

that is pretty much the worst excuse ever for not knowing how to solve the serious flaws in Xenio

'Hey guys, we'll take all your money first then tell you how we are going to fix something that cannot be fixed'

i am sincere, try to find that anywhere.... you will all get informed about that in a more formal form than here.... where you can't really know if i am the one i say i am.
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0

you should understand that you where very hostile before... and you make me wonder why, you talk very well now but because of your bad start i will not provide details, its wrong anyway to provide details only here because few ppl will get informed, wait for the announcements on the site.

Thanks.

that is pretty much the worst excuse ever for not knowing how to solve the serious flaws in Xenio

'Hey guys, we'll take all your money first then tell you how we are going to fix something that cannot be fixed'
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0

you can profit yourself also if you believe that you can create a fake server and hook millions of clients from nowhere on it.... so again? why do you bother?

you must realize however here that the main problem is not the fake server.... but the fake user.... you are not getting paid for just being a server... you are getting paid for the users you have, if you just have 100 fake servers it means that you need to invest 100*"coins required" to be a server (thats actually positive for the community)

but the users? there are ways to figure out duplicate users from the same machine.... looking cpu ids, mac addresses, ip's, ingame captchas, some have advantages and dis-advantages and limitations, for example a vm have the same cpu id everywhere.... or the ip is the same for an internet cafe.... so some of those counters cannot be used.
there are ways to inspect packets there are ways to prove connectivity there is AI that can help here, yes we have someone with a degree in AI in my team and we need more of those people and those people are really expensive thus we need funds,

what are you asking in general? you ask from us to give you  the pattern of our on going work? do you want me to give you my hand writings and notes BEFORE we even release?  are you a competitor or something with millions of funds? do you really believe that i will do something like that? what if we say something now and we change it later? are you gonna flame us for that?


Hi and thank you for your reply.

Yes, i explained how this is possible with regards to faking users.

This is not as hard as you think, not like cracking blockchain tech. The project cannot be based on the assumption that people will not try to break the system. If Xenio the coin ever becomes valuable then it will be exploited with fake servers and fake users for staking coins.

faking this information like cpuid, mac address is all simple stuff. You can use millions of proxies or pay for VPNs with regards to IPs, but would you actually restrict the same IPs anyway?

What I am saying is that you are asking for money for a project of which the fundamentals are flawed or have not been thought out.

Who is going to use Xenio when they can connect to premium servers for free? where is the business model for this project?

and what games? who will chose the games for Xenio? some games will be simple and easy to fake clients and may have more users in general?

any answers to these sirnicolas21

sorry... i missed that message cause i was out of my country for some days

first of all i think that you believe that we will support cracked/stolen games.... we cannot control those additions if they happen, we will not encourage something like that, "premium" servers are welcome and thats the main target anyway,
for start anyway we will have smaller publishers that cannot afford the money to join steam or have their own distribution platform until we get known to ppl (thats my personal opinion anyway)
for the cheating mechanism we have some counters like i said before, the system will evolve in time like all blockchains do (ethereum and other bc's has being hacked and patched them selves) this part is not written yet if you inspect git hub, once its written i will try to hack testnet and depending our funds we might hire ppl to do so (maybe bounties also... don't know now), who said anything about restricting ips? that was an example and i stated that this cannot be done.

we will announce some of the patterns in detail for the reward security on the site in time most likely before phase one closes.

you should understand that you where very hostile before... and you make me wonder why, you talk very well now but because of your bad start i will not provide details, its wrong anyway to provide details only here because few ppl will get informed, wait for the announcements on the site.

Thanks.
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0

you can profit yourself also if you believe that you can create a fake server and hook millions of clients from nowhere on it.... so again? why do you bother?

you must realize however here that the main problem is not the fake server.... but the fake user.... you are not getting paid for just being a server... you are getting paid for the users you have, if you just have 100 fake servers it means that you need to invest 100*"coins required" to be a server (thats actually positive for the community)

but the users? there are ways to figure out duplicate users from the same machine.... looking cpu ids, mac addresses, ip's, ingame captchas, some have advantages and dis-advantages and limitations, for example a vm have the same cpu id everywhere.... or the ip is the same for an internet cafe.... so some of those counters cannot be used.
there are ways to inspect packets there are ways to prove connectivity there is AI that can help here, yes we have someone with a degree in AI in my team and we need more of those people and those people are really expensive thus we need funds,

what are you asking in general? you ask from us to give you  the pattern of our on going work? do you want me to give you my hand writings and notes BEFORE we even release?  are you a competitor or something with millions of funds? do you really believe that i will do something like that? what if we say something now and we change it later? are you gonna flame us for that?


Hi and thank you for your reply.

Yes, i explained how this is possible with regards to faking users.

This is not as hard as you think, not like cracking blockchain tech. The project cannot be based on the assumption that people will not try to break the system. If Xenio the coin ever becomes valuable then it will be exploited with fake servers and fake users for staking coins.

faking this information like cpuid, mac address is all simple stuff. You can use millions of proxies or pay for VPNs with regards to IPs, but would you actually restrict the same IPs anyway?

What I am saying is that you are asking for money for a project of which the fundamentals are flawed or have not been thought out.

Who is going to use Xenio when they can connect to premium servers for free? where is the business model for this project?

and what games? who will chose the games for Xenio? some games will be simple and easy to fake clients and may have more users in general?

any answers to these sirnicolas21
newbie
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yes im a newbie on the forum here Smiley


Then another question for you. What is (or will be) the return in coins on average for 1 masternode for validating transactions on the network? Clearly being able to participate in the crowdsale now in phase 1 makes it interesting for purchasing the amount of coins needed to run one, but some ROI figures or projections would be interesting, even if it will largely depend on the coin's price in the market.

Thanks for taking the time to answer in any case.

Cheers

unless you are a gameserver or later a voice/video server or any server module that we will add (depending on the crowdsale success) you cannot profit for running a masternode, masternodes are not rewarded for confirming transactions (thats something that all nodes can do) they are rewarded for how many connections serve for their kind of service, so a gameserver is rewarded for how many active players have, a voice server for how many ppl are chatting (connected to that server, not actually talking)

you will however profit having round 1 funds reselling them at a higherprice later on, because servers will be desperate to find those coins.
regular nodes are rewarded just for having the client running and synced (you need to have whole blockchain and distribute blocks to other peers)
sr. member
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yes im a newbie on the forum here Smiley


Then another question for you. What is (or will be) the return in coins on average for 1 masternode for validating transactions on the network? Clearly being able to participate in the crowdsale now in phase 1 makes it interesting for purchasing the amount of coins needed to run one, but some ROI figures or projections would be interesting, even if it will largely depend on the coin's price in the market.

Thanks for taking the time to answer in any case.

Cheers
newbie
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Right now, at what stage is your project?
member
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Website link - Bitcoin Unicorn
Probably been asked already - but what makes this project differ from other "gaming" blockchain type projects?  From a gamers perspective - i have seen several lately all touting something or another, but what I want to know is - why should I suddenly stop supporting Steam or PS+ for my gaming needs and go with an untested unknown group of ppl.
I know you want investors to take chances - but sadly some of us just need more proof and reasoning before we part with our hard-earned crypto - especially those of us who arrived late to the crypto party and don't have millions/thousands/hundreds or even tens of $$ in bitcoin to throw round.





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