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hero member
Activity: 966
Merit: 501
The project looks pretty promising to me and i think the idea of decentralized gaming can perform pretty well. The team of the project also looks promising to me but the project seems pretty simmilar to mobilego.
The pre sale is performing pretty well so the marketing teams is doing a very good job which can also aid in the growth of the project.
Looking forward to invest.
newbie
Activity: 14
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This looks like a good project that has a real life application! Went through your article and I have to admit it is well detailed and describes very well the token sale and distribution process
sr. member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 262
what are the bonuses for first-days purchases?

there are probably no bonuses but you can buy some tokens on a discounted price in the earlier weeks. first week will only be $1.5/XNO and will be $5 on the 4th week. first week is the best Smiley
newbie
Activity: 27
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what are the bonuses for first-days purchases?
sr. member
Activity: 460
Merit: 250
I am very interested in XENIO and NVO,
but NVO is late at delivering the wallet, any news?

it is the definitive clue about the capacity of delivering both projects or not.
full member
Activity: 378
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Right now, at what stage is your project?

The project is on Phase 1 Pre- ICO.

I'm interesting to this project and i want to be a part of it. From which point i can start? I hope to answer me soon... Thanks!

The best start is always their website, read as much as you can about the project. Its https://xenio.io/ the presale is now on and that's always the best time to be involved in the project. You will also see the process to purchase tokens there on the site. I concur, it is a great project.
newbie
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I'm interesting to this project and i want to be a part of it. From which point i can start? I hope to answer me soon... Thanks!
newbie
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"is the 3 million from the exchange they crowd-saled and they put it in themselves to make it look like they raised that much so far?"

I doubt that as they both have escrow. The ticker showing the 3 Mil raised on xenio.io could show whatever though.

What about financials? They must have these at their fingertips. Surely. A detailed spreadsheet showing the breakdown of spending investor money would have been already completed. As in, this coder will code this part, and it will take "x" weeks at an hourly rate etc,. This would lead to an estimation of total funds needed for the project and an approximate ROI for investors. $220,000,000 is a lot of money to ask for without saying how you're going to spend it.
newbie
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Right now, at what stage is your project?
newbie
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way to behave for the leader of the project?

so it looks like you cannot answer the questions and have turned to talking like a child.

I'll wait for the answer to :

How to prevent Fake Servers with Fake gamers from staking coins?

It is flawed and you are taking peoples money, again.


You do realise that, compared to you Dave, nemgun considers himself a GOD. This is why he talks down at all of you from his heavenly position. I can actually quote this from another thread.(Really!)

Please stop asking technical questions about why Xenio is flawed. The amount raised is stuck at 3 mil. So shut up and give him your money! That is what this is about.

220 Million Dollars. Really?

I wish I could fly around the internet and face-palm each and every contributor thus far. Not that it would stop this ICO maddness. Do your own research people.

is the 3 million from the exchange they crowd-saled and they put it in themselves to make it look like they raised that much so far?


disregarding the massive flaw with PoN,
let's assume it is not flawed

what is the advantage of Xenio?

who is going to use it? why not just connect to a legit AAA game server the normal way instead of being limited to an open source game with no players???

What are the problems trying to be solved here?
newbie
Activity: 29
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way to behave for the leader of the project?

so it looks like you cannot answer the questions and have turned to talking like a child.

I'll wait for the answer to :

How to prevent Fake Servers with Fake gamers from staking coins?

It is flawed and you are taking peoples money, again.


You do realise that, compared to you Dave, nemgun considers himself a GOD. This is why he talks down at all of you from his heavenly position. I can actually quote this from another thread.(Really!)

Please stop asking technical questions about why Xenio is flawed. The amount raised is stuck at 3 mil. So shut up and give him your money! That is what this is about.

220 Million Dollars. Really?

I wish I could fly around the internet and face-palm each and every contributor thus far. Not that it would stop this ICO maddness. Do your own research people.
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
way to behave for the leader of the project?

so it looks like you cannot answer the questions and have turned to talking like a child.

I'll wait for the answer to :

How to prevent Fake Servers with Fake gamers from staking coins?

It is flawed and you are taking peoples money, again.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 533
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Yes the servers will be partially random because of the ping, it is like i try to connect from algeria to a us based server, my ping would be too high and it would ruin the games. So it have to include some randomness. but, it is possible to create your own server and bring your own players, however, you won't be able to get incentives except from the first pos as all the nodes get rewards for it.

This is why I asked. If it is random you need to make sure the latency is good enough.

The question is: how will servers be randomly selected? how in a decentralized way can it work? Who records the latency of each individual server against each user? how would you prevent a gamer or server artificially increasing latency or completely blocking IPs in order to get your fake players on your own server? and how do you tell the different between legit and not?

Is this also only for single player gamers too? ie not co-op


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In the next updates, we think about some kind of ban in the blockchain during the next months, for the leavers and reported gamers based on a trust/untrust system. Regarding the servers, there will be a vote by the nodes about the election of servers, which ones can seal blocks from where he can have a list of black listed servers/players.

how to deal with sibyl?

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for the game to test, i am still unsure, we will try to add as much as possible, personally, i want to test Dota, CSGO, starcraft, and COD. I don't say that it will be done officially as they don't allow private servers, maybe a pseudoname would do it, like xenioNakamoto, someone annonymous.

is this not a bit illegal?

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I have a passion for people who threaten me, i like to humiliate them with my intelligence.

I have not threatened you at all. I merely pointed out that PoN is seriously flawed. To exploit it you do not need to break blockchain technology.

I've not been humiliated by your intelligence yet?

anyway I will await your answers so that we can finally put this to rest. And I hope you can prove me wrong.


I want to thank you for participating to the game, since some time we don't have the right to use marketing campaigns to pump the threads.
Regarding your intelligence, you was recruited at the time you said you would make packets with authorizations, then on the mockup where you centralized a blockchain, as you put it in a side aside, I thank you again for your stupidity, this is where you showed your level hilarious, so now you understand the gap between you and me. A golden rule that I repeated, you must never attack the developers. You know, I enjoyed doing NVO with the strength Gandalf, and I'm back on this project with Dumbledore's intelligence "Wingardium Leviosa", you just pumped the thread, you were ridiculous from the beginning and then you talk about red flag and I find it very adorable and cute.
By the way, in the world of Dumbledore, there is Serpentar, if you are sure to be able to faker the project with your strategy,  buy some XNO and fake the project. you trolls of Harry Potter, I would love you all the time.
Bitcointalk admins have forbidden to add in the signature campaigns the obligation to post in the main thread, fortunately there are people like you to make my thread pumper, and thanks again.
PS: It's not good to come up with notions of PC2000 magazine.
sr. member
Activity: 686
Merit: 250
This project is very interesting and I hope it will become successful in the future. And I hope once ICO started many investor will invest ti this project . I will invest also to this project once ICO starts. Please inform me when the ICO start so I can invest in this project. Hope also dev create more project about xenio so it will become successful in the future. More power!
The Early Presale round is underway now, but is limited to 10 million coins. You can register an account at https://xenio.io and join the party...But we are selling faster than anticipated, so even if you miss this round, there are three more rounds to come Smiley
I do not have the money right now to participate in this round but it seems only  20% of the coins have been sold yet so maybe I can raise enough cash to get into the presale before all the tokens are gone but if I cannot do that I will surely participate in round 2 especially now that I know the coin is going to be listed at Bittrex.
newbie
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Yes the servers will be partially random because of the ping, it is like i try to connect from algeria to a us based server, my ping would be too high and it would ruin the games. So it have to include some randomness. but, it is possible to create your own server and bring your own players, however, you won't be able to get incentives except from the first pos as all the nodes get rewards for it.

This is why I asked. If it is random you need to make sure the latency is good enough.

The question is: how will servers be randomly selected? how in a decentralized way can it work? Who records the latency of each individual server against each user? how would you prevent a gamer or server artificially increasing latency or completely blocking IPs in order to get your fake players on your own server? and how do you tell the different between legit and not?

Is this also only for single player gamers too? ie not co-op


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In the next updates, we think about some kind of ban in the blockchain during the next months, for the leavers and reported gamers based on a trust/untrust system. Regarding the servers, there will be a vote by the nodes about the election of servers, which ones can seal blocks from where he can have a list of black listed servers/players.

how to deal with sibyl?

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for the game to test, i am still unsure, we will try to add as much as possible, personally, i want to test Dota, CSGO, starcraft, and COD. I don't say that it will be done officially as they don't allow private servers, maybe a pseudoname would do it, like xenioNakamoto, someone annonymous.

is this not a bit illegal?

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I have a passion for people who threaten me, i like to humiliate them with my intelligence.

I have not threatened you at all. I merely pointed out that PoN is seriously flawed. To exploit it you do not need to break blockchain technology.

I've not been humiliated by your intelligence yet?

anyway I will await your answers so that we can finally put this to rest. And I hope you can prove me wrong.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
The project seems pretty promising to me as the idea of decentralized gaming can attract a lot of people. Looking at the current performance of the ICO, the project seems popular as well. The team of the project also seems pretty strong and hardworking.
I just wanted to know that when will the project be listed on various exchanges.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 533
Nemgun,

you are not understanding the issue.

Faking players is not hard, especially not for opensource games.

I understand your project from what is publicly available.

Match Making : are you saying that a player who tries to join a game will be placed on a random server?
please answer this yes or no.

continue the discussion or this is a serious RED FLAG.

So far you have not explained how Xenio is secure in regards to staking coins based on servers and players.

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Xenio could be faked, maybe in 10 years, when blockchains will be broken, if you want to keep on persuading yourself that you are right, so be it, but don't try to convince me especially as i am the founder.

This is what you are NOT understanding or are avoiding. Xenio staking is flawed because it is based on a process which can be easily exploited. Fake Players on Fake Servers.

Which games on test server can we test?

I advise you not to threaten, and not to say that i understand nothing, i know this project as i built it. I though you were working for an investment fund, or are you trying to defame the project ?
Yes the servers will be partially random because of the ping, it is like i try to connect from algeria to a us based server, my ping would be too high and it would ruin the games. So it have to include some randomness. but, it is possible to create your own server and bring your own players, however, you won't be able to get incentives except from the first pos as all the nodes get rewards for it. I though you already understood this part as match making engine takes these elements in consideration. In the next updates, we think about some kind of ban in the blockchain during the next months, for the leavers and reported gamers based on a trust/untrust system. Regarding the servers, there will be a vote by the nodes about the election of servers, which ones can seal blocks from where he can have a list of black listed servers/players.

There are many features to be added into Xenio, just be patient, and follow the updates, we are working on it since two months only. We already moved a lot on the development, more to come.

for the game to test, i am still unsure, we will try to add as much as possible, personally, i want to test Dota, CSGO, starcraft, and COD. I don't say that it will be done officially as they don't allow private servers, maybe a pseudoname would do it, like xenioNakamoto, someone annonymous.

Talking about the RED Flag, remember that we are still in testnet, i hope to see it from you soon, as it looks that you are here for that.

I have a passion for people who threaten me, i like to humiliate them with my intelligence.
newbie
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Nemgun,

you are not understanding the issue.

Faking players is not hard, especially not for opensource games.

I understand your project from what is publicly available.

Match Making : are you saying that a player who tries to join a game will be placed on a random server?
please answer this yes or no.

continue the discussion or this is a serious RED FLAG.

So far you have not explained how Xenio is secure in regards to staking coins based on servers and players.

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Xenio could be faked, maybe in 10 years, when blockchains will be broken, if you want to keep on persuading yourself that you are right, so be it, but don't try to convince me especially as i am the founder.

This is what you are NOT understanding or are avoiding. Xenio staking is flawed because it is based on a process which can be easily exploited. Fake Players on Fake Servers.

Which games on test server can we test?
hero member
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the damons will have to be included in the games

I assume you mean that the daemon needs a game. For example, a virtual machine would need to have a node with it as well?

this is no problem if this is what you mean

or are you saying a game needs to have a Xenio daemon integrated into the actual game?


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i actually have excellent computers at home and i can't run more then 2-3 games at the same time, depending on each one's specifications, i also told you about the upcoming update as it is related to this topic.

you do not need to run the game.

To emulate client network is not difficult for someone who is determined. Emulating game client network is no where near as difficult as cracking blockchain encryption yet you are touting it as such.

The fundamentals are flawed.

If Xenio gains any value it will be exploited by people creating fake servers and gamers, why would they not?

Is there a list of compatible games?

Dota2?
League of Legends?
Minecraft?
CoD?
Pubg?





As of now, we are moving slowly, even if on your side you are not so open to understand how it works, as you seem to be so determined to proof your idea, i invite you to fake the testnet.
How will Xenio work, you launch the Xenio client, you launch the game, the game will be connected to the client's daemon as it is useless to launch several instances of it. Now to fake it, do you know that when you are playing a game, you send a lot of informations to the servers, so in the end, in order to fake the gamer, you need to launch the game, have you checked your bandwidth when you play games like dota ? do you know what kind of informations you are sending with these packets ? What i say is, if you want to fake, you can, with the condition of having 50 computers at home, and it won't be reliable if you do so, we will also add gamers tracking with smart contracts and match making engine.
Regarding the games, we are actually looking for open sourced games, with the next update we will release examples with a game, if i find the source code of dota, i would do it with pleasure, but it will be probably a plugin for minecraft.

EXACTLY.

If you are only using Opensource Games then all the Code is available to emulate fake connections.

You do not understand that you do not need 50 computers at home. This can all be faked by software, or in the easiest sense VMs, Docker.

which games on testnet will you provide? if it is not financially worth testing why would anyone try to break it?
If Xenio gains any value, they will break it then as it will require some work.

you give an example of minecraft and this is one of the games most easiest to simulate network traffic, quick search here although i have not fully read the paper
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282778493_Game_network_traffic_simulation_by_a_custom_bot

opensource games will be a piece of cake to emulate the network traffic for

you cannot provide a secure system for staking coins as you can never tell what is a fake player and what is real in a decentralized way. Especially games that are open source.

It's also a bit misleading that your whitepaper shows DOTA2 in a screenshot

I think that i iwll stop responsing to your post, i understand that you are not really a developer, as you try to convince yourself that you are right, i can't do anymore for you as you are sure that a bot could break the system with fake packets, i keep on explaining but you ignore my response while repeating the same thing at each post.

I will ask to ben to repond as i am also not so good in english, i just understand that you don't know much about the project. We may add Dota, but it won't be made directly, rather undirectly for legal reason, the thing is it is not only up to the Xenio team to add games, but everyone can do it. However,  stay on this note, you won't be able to fake players or fake servers, as a match making engine will be added into the blockchian, i told you to follow the updates. I remember also that you spoke about an investment fund, i advise you not to invest in a project you don't understand.

Regarding VMs and Docker, software manipulation, i know what it is, i work with these, i hope that you will release youtube videos about Xenio coin multipliers, however, i know that it will be fake.

Xenio could be faked, maybe in 10 years, when blockchains will be broken, if you want to keep on persuading yourself that you are right, so be it, but don't try to convince me especially as i am the founder.




How I can find information about Tickets Cloud?

Seriously guys, you shouldn't promote other projects lol



So, what's the purpose of having your token?

The purpose of having the token is about been able to mine XNOs  as you will need them, selling them to game server operators, buying content, access, using them for smart contracts. Please check this link
newbie
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the damons will have to be included in the games

I assume you mean that the daemon needs a game. For example, a virtual machine would need to have a node with it as well?

this is no problem if this is what you mean

or are you saying a game needs to have a Xenio daemon integrated into the actual game?


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i actually have excellent computers at home and i can't run more then 2-3 games at the same time, depending on each one's specifications, i also told you about the upcoming update as it is related to this topic.

you do not need to run the game.

To emulate client network is not difficult for someone who is determined. Emulating game client network is no where near as difficult as cracking blockchain encryption yet you are touting it as such.

The fundamentals are flawed.

If Xenio gains any value it will be exploited by people creating fake servers and gamers, why would they not?

Is there a list of compatible games?

Dota2?
League of Legends?
Minecraft?
CoD?
Pubg?





As of now, we are moving slowly, even if on your side you are not so open to understand how it works, as you seem to be so determined to proof your idea, i invite you to fake the testnet.
How will Xenio work, you launch the Xenio client, you launch the game, the game will be connected to the client's daemon as it is useless to launch several instances of it. Now to fake it, do you know that when you are playing a game, you send a lot of informations to the servers, so in the end, in order to fake the gamer, you need to launch the game, have you checked your bandwidth when you play games like dota ? do you know what kind of informations you are sending with these packets ? What i say is, if you want to fake, you can, with the condition of having 50 computers at home, and it won't be reliable if you do so, we will also add gamers tracking with smart contracts and match making engine.
Regarding the games, we are actually looking for open sourced games, with the next update we will release examples with a game, if i find the source code of dota, i would do it with pleasure, but it will be probably a plugin for minecraft.

EXACTLY.

If you are only using Opensource Games then all the Code is available to emulate fake connections.

You do not understand that you do not need 50 computers at home. This can all be faked by software, or in the easiest sense VMs, Docker.

which games on testnet will you provide? if it is not financially worth testing why would anyone try to break it?
If Xenio gains any value, they will break it then as it will require some work.

you give an example of minecraft and this is one of the games most easiest to simulate network traffic, quick search here although i have not fully read the paper
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282778493_Game_network_traffic_simulation_by_a_custom_bot

opensource games will be a piece of cake to emulate the network traffic for

you cannot provide a secure system for staking coins as you can never tell what is a fake player and what is real in a decentralized way. Especially games that are open source.

It's also a bit misleading that your whitepaper shows DOTA2 in a screenshot
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