Topic: Presearch (PRE) - Decentralized Search Engine - page 16. (Read 32441 times)

Alright, I will obviously have to take a deeper look at your stuff.

As for the skin in the game part that you mentioned, I generally agree with that. The only issue is that I read about some other platform which aims to monetize data, that the actual reward is just not really big enough to get the Western world to care about their search behavior. Are there any realistic quantitative examples you could provide?

Yes, it's a massive challenge, but also a huge opportunity. The space is so large and valuable, that you really don't need to dominate the category. We believe that due to our community-focused model and the integration of our PRE token to align everyone's interest, that we'll be able to make a significant dent over time.

And besides, we don't need to beat Google - you can search Google through Presearch.

We are just driving a thin wedge between people's existing search behaviour to minimize the friction. Once people start accumulating tokens, they have some skin in the game and are more willing to do some additional work, spread the word actively and build the network.

We're on track to exceed the early growth of both Google and DuckDuckGo already, and we haven't really even tried to expand yet.

We just did a major release yesterday of a new anti-abuse platform to prevent people from gaming the system. There's a bit of work involved to bring everyone up to speed, but so far the feedback has been largely positive. Now that it's in place, it's almost go time!

Thanks for your interest! Please feel free to join at https://www.presearch.org if you like.

Ok I confess I didn't know how far you've gotten then as I lost some interest in decentralized search a while ago. It is probably the hardest space to conquer with google being in the driving seat. The synergies they can create with all the data they have are just amazingly strong. It may take decades to get even close to them, wouldn't it?

Yes, Bitclave would be a competitor. There are a large number of alternative search engines - ex. DuckDuckGo, Ecosia, startpage.com, and many others. Google of course. We are the only one with a working search engine that actually utilizes a token tor reward members and pay for ads though. I don't expect that this will be the case forever, but right now, we are leading the blockchain/crypto search space.

Thanks for your support, GrosWesh! Would love to continue to count you as a member of Presearch!

Are you guys a competitor of Bitclave? Which others would you also consider being your competitors in the space?

Interesting... I have to admit you avoid kyc by using your 'sytem'. I wish you to succeed in achieving your goals anyway, I will continue to follow the advancement of Presearch.

Oh, absolutely. And it was anticipated that we'd have people trying to game the system. We just did not think it would get as big as fast as it did at this early stage, and there's been fallout from that lack of preparedness. Overall, it's a good problem to have, and the new system we are rolling out puts us in a strong position, because any blockchain reward / incentive program is going to have the same issues with gaming. But instead of relying on KYC to discourage abuse like most, we have an algorithm that is more effective and much less intrusive, which will lead us to mass adoption much sooner.

Greetings,

Is it legitimate to think that you have been overwhelmed by the events? Have you never seen the eventuality that thousands of people were going to launch silly searches to get the 'promised' rewards? Maybe you have opened the door yourself to these derivatives, what do you think? 

Thanks for your feedback, robelneo. It's a bit of a complicated situation. I appreciate your perspective and understand it. Time will show that the dissatisfaction experienced was due to growing pains, but that ultimately, a solid value model arose and provided the project with a powerful growth engine.

The primary telegram group is at https://t.me/presearch.

The withdrawals-specific group you were on was set up in response to literally more than 10,000 people in 60 days hitting the main community channel with the exact same question 'when withdraw', and the community members getting sick of it and asking us to direct people to another group.

It has taken us much longer than we anticipated to develop an accurate and scalable anti-abuse system to automatically curb abuse - people just mining the token. Had we have known it would take this long, we would have probably communicated things differently. Unfortunately, our earlier attempts at automating the token withdrawal platform let through too many people who were gaming the system.

We now have a significant confidence factor in our automated results based on a multi-faceted risk assessment algorithm that can identify and score patterns and classify users accordingly into a scale that can be communicated clearly and minimize unwarranted withdrawals through floating thresholds.

And for those edge cases when the system is wrong, we're implementing an anonymous appeals process that is handled by community members.

There is a fee to request an appeal. Denoted and payable in PRE, of course. And if the appeal is successful, the payment is refunded and is covered by the project. That is our incentive to continue to make the algorithm more and more robust. The amount paid compensates the community reviewer.

Anyway... Thanks again for taking the time to comment, and sorry for the poor early experience. Hopefully we get the opportunity to make it up to you at some point.

I was asking legit questions on your telegram channel this is on behalf of those who participate and your project as well, because only a bot is answering in our queries, I'm surprised at what you claimed a big number of participants and yet you employ a bot to answer important questions.

if you send one guy out of thousands who are waiting for his payout this doesn't make you legit in the eyes of participants, imagine there are people who are still waiting for over a year now, a bot cannot give a proper explanation for this.

Sorry, robelneo - this is not a scam. I've asked anyone here having issues to message me. I don't recall seeing anything from you.

There are tens of thousands of people trying to scam the project, and just collect tokens. We've had to develop a complex automated system to protect Presearch, which is rolling out this week.

If you want to wait until the system is live, you can. Otherwise, feel free to DM, email or message me on Telegram and I can take a look at individual cases.

This Poll person is someone who was authorized to withdraw. No one asked him to post anything on our behalf.

Thanks,

Colin

I gave you a red trust for deceiving people that they will get paid until now it's been over 3 to 4 months and there is no news about my payout there are people complaining that people never get their rewards after a year of waiting, yes you are paying some so people will vouch for your project is a scam one.

Ha! Thanks, Poll!

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Hey Warfare!

Could you message me on Telegram via @colinpape or email [email protected]?

Happy to look into it for you.

Also, we're releasing a new automated system the first week of February that should speed things up and make them much more clear.

Thanks!

Colin

No, I'm still waiting for the email that unlocks the tokens.


Congrats!

Okay, great! Thanks, GrosWesh!

I appreciate the kind words and it's motivating to stay engaged with the community.

Really grateful for your patience and your positive approach.

Let me know if you have any other feedback while using Presearch.

Thanks again!

Colin

Received !

I have taken note of the great improvement in communication since you came in, and I will let know that around me. After all, it's one thing to be demanding/uncompromising when not satisfied, but I think when service is good, i have to admit it !

Thank you, and good luck!

Should be on the way now. Please confirm when received. Thanks!

Also, I'm not sure who this is as a few people contacted me via Telegram... If you still didn't get them, hit me up on Telegram @colinpape.