Just for BBmodBB : http://youtu.be/rwvIGNXY21Y
Please watch that video and see how its possible to get 10 in a row even on system WITHOUT house edge.
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September 29, 2014, 04:19:22 AM
September 28, 2014, 10:27:45 PM
OOhhh... I know nothing about probability. This is what stunna has told all his orks to say. I am sure you understand probability right brah? You and ALL the mods understand \phi(x) = ce^{-h^2 x^2},
I am having a little trouble understanding it too... the part:
P(A \mid B) = \frac{P(A \cap B)}{P(B)}.\,
Can you help me please, since you are so gifted in maths, and understand probability
means automatic loss when large amount is wagered I am having a little trouble understanding it too... the part:
P(A \mid B) = \frac{P(A \cap B)}{P(B)}.\,
Can you help me please, since you are so gifted in maths, and understand probability
That's any game with a negative EV
Read: Any gambling site in the history of the internet.
September 28, 2014, 09:42:01 PM
OOhhh... I know nothing about probability. This is what stunna has told all his orks to say. I am sure you understand probability right brah? You and ALL the mods understand \phi(x) = ce^{-h^2 x^2},
I am having a little trouble understanding it too... the part:
P(A \mid B) = \frac{P(A \cap B)}{P(B)}.\,
Can you help me please, since you are so gifted in maths, and understand probability
means automatic loss when large amount is wagered I am having a little trouble understanding it too... the part:
P(A \mid B) = \frac{P(A \cap B)}{P(B)}.\,
Can you help me please, since you are so gifted in maths, and understand probability
September 28, 2014, 09:37:53 PM
Furthermore, I don't know whether this man got his 100 btc back but it's not my business to contact him, I am trying to resolve my own issues on PD. In all
honestly, Stunna does seem to step up to the plate when trouble arises, but my issue is that the trouble arose in the first place. Let's see, I place my hope in this Stunna man and lets see if we get answers. Haha also have to say, Stunna your answers crack me up 'intellectually thought out comments like PD is gay' -gotta admit it was not the best use of speech
honestly, Stunna does seem to step up to the plate when trouble arises, but my issue is that the trouble arose in the first place. Let's see, I place my hope in this Stunna man and lets see if we get answers. Haha also have to say, Stunna your answers crack me up 'intellectually thought out comments like PD is gay' -gotta admit it was not the best use of speech
September 28, 2014, 09:27:39 PM
yeah right to see blocks of 10 within 30 tosses would take prolly even longer than hitting 20 straight! ..this string game you get sweeped with streaks of red like it's somehow "fair" for the game to cheat , just because you are up!!!? 
hmmm
hmmmApparently kids will be kids. If you bother informing yourself about provably fair, you would not make a fool of yourself with your posts. Seriously, you say nothing about it being rigged when you get win streaks but you get red streaks and lose its rigged.
Come on grow up. You're gambling. If you can't understand the coin flip test itself, then you should stay away from playing any gambling games.
No point in arguing with trolls, if someone thinks the game is not fair they can verify their rolls and mathematically prove it. This is a trustless system if you choose to make it so.
You can verify your roll and prove it until there is something wrong with the verification script and then it's all like "Ooooh sorry wrong one, oops, guess we missed that in the 1 year of making PD3 and testing it." Then, a while later you learn that odds you have been wagering against were in fact not as advertised. So far, the only things that I know are 'provable' are the verification script was wrong that that thousands of people lost when in fact they should have won. THIS is proven.
Also, 100 bitcoins 'vanished' from a PD account:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=791367.60
This is also 'provable', thanks to blockchain
Other than that, PD is actually a decent site hahahaha
That's already been solved, you can speak with the person who made the thread about what happened when he is willing to share it himself. Also, you don't have an understanding of how provable fairness works so there is no point in arguing or trying to persuade you of anything.
I've added you both to ignore, BBmod has accused every single provably fair site of being unfair and xfactor pretty exclusively posts FUD about PD along with highly thought out and intellectual comments such as "PD is gay".
Let's keep discussion focused please.
Stunna says I am posting fud. I must be lying then right? Can't you admit the issues I mentioned are indeed real (I am personally involved with one of them) or do I need to post links to discussions about the verification system not working, or the advertised house edge being wrong? About the 100 btc, glad its resolved. I am sorry for calling PD gay, it was not the best term but hey.. people got what I was saying. 'I dont understand probability' line again.. OMG
September 28, 2014, 09:21:08 PM
Yep, nobody has any idea except you and PD mods, I am just stupid and streaks of 30 reds are everyday events:D
September 28, 2014, 09:17:00 PM
yeah right to see blocks of 10 within 30 tosses would take prolly even longer than hitting 20 straight! ..this string game you get sweeped with streaks of red like it's somehow "fair" for the game to cheat , just because you are up!!!? hmmm
hmmmApparently kids will be kids. If you bother informing yourself about provably fair, you would not make a fool of yourself with your posts. Seriously, you say nothing about it being rigged when you get win streaks but you get red streaks and lose its rigged.
Come on grow up. You're gambling. If you can't understand the coin flip test itself, then you should stay away from playing any gambling games.
No point in arguing with trolls, if someone thinks the game is not fair they can verify their rolls and mathematically prove it. This is a trustless system if you choose to make it so.
You can verify your roll and prove it until there is something wrong with the verification script and then it's all like "Ooooh sorry wrong one, oops, guess we missed that in the 1 year of making PD3 and testing it." Then, a while later you learn that odds you have been wagering against were in fact not as advertised. So far, the only things that I know are 'provable' are the verification script was wrong that that thousands of people lost when in fact they should have won. THIS is proven.
Also, 100 bitcoins 'vanished' from a PD account:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=791367.60
This is also 'provable', thanks to blockchain
Other than that, PD is actually a decent site hahahaha
That's already been solved, you can speak with the person who made the thread about what happened when he is willing to share it himself. Also, you don't have an understanding of how provable fairness works so there is no point in arguing or trying to persuade you of anything.
I've added you both to ignore, BBmod has accused every single provably fair site of being unfair and xfactor pretty exclusively posts FUD about PD along with highly thought out and intellectual comments such as "PD is gay".
Let's keep discussion focused please.
September 28, 2014, 09:15:41 PM
@BRAH:
OOhhh... I know nothing about probability. This is what stunna has told all his orks to say. I am sure you understand probability right brah? You and ALL the mods understand \phi(x) = ce^{-h^2 x^2},
I am having a little trouble understanding it too... the part:
P(A \mid B) = \frac{P(A \cap B)}{P(B)}.\,
Can you help me please, since you are so gifted in maths, and understand probability
And I stick to my word, I am sure if you were to try flip a coin until it landed 30 times in a row you would probably get struck by lighting before it happened
OOhhh... I know nothing about probability. This is what stunna has told all his orks to say. I am sure you understand probability right brah? You and ALL the mods understand \phi(x) = ce^{-h^2 x^2},
I am having a little trouble understanding it too... the part:
P(A \mid B) = \frac{P(A \cap B)}{P(B)}.\,
Can you help me please, since you are so gifted in maths, and understand probability
And I stick to my word, I am sure if you were to try flip a coin until it landed 30 times in a row you would probably get struck by lighting before it happened
proof!!! lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwvIGNXY21Y
September 28, 2014, 09:12:41 PM
yeah right to see blocks of 10 within 30 tosses would take prolly even longer than hitting 20 straight! ..this string game you get sweeped with streaks of red like it's somehow "fair" for the game to cheat , just because you are up!!!? hmmm
hmmmApparently kids will be kids. If you bother informing yourself about provably fair, you would not make a fool of yourself with your posts. Seriously, you say nothing about it being rigged when you get win streaks but you get red streaks and lose its rigged.
Come on grow up. You're gambling. If you can't understand the coin flip test itself, then you should stay away from playing any gambling games.
No point in arguing with trolls, if someone thinks the game is not fair they can verify their rolls and mathematically prove it. This is a trustless system if you choose to make it so.
You can verify your roll and prove it until there is something wrong with the verification script and then it's all like "Ooooh sorry wrong one, oops, guess we missed that in the 1 year of making PD3 and testing it." Then, a while later you learn that odds you have been wagering against were in fact not as advertised. So far, the only things that I know are 'provable' are the verification script was wrong that that thousands of people lost when in fact they should have won. THIS is proven.
Also, 100 bitcoins 'vanished' from a PD account:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=791367.60
This is also 'provable', thanks to blockchain
Other than that, PD is actually a decent site hahahaha
September 28, 2014, 09:02:12 PM
@BRAH:
OOhhh... I know nothing about probability. This is what stunna has told all his orks to say. I am sure you understand probability right brah? You and ALL the mods understand \phi(x) = ce^{-h^2 x^2},
I am having a little trouble understanding it too... the part:
P(A \mid B) = \frac{P(A \cap B)}{P(B)}.\,
Can you help me please, since you are so gifted in maths, and understand probability
And I stick to my word, I am sure if you were to try flip a coin until it landed 30 times in a row you would probably get struck by lighting before it happened
OOhhh... I know nothing about probability. This is what stunna has told all his orks to say. I am sure you understand probability right brah? You and ALL the mods understand \phi(x) = ce^{-h^2 x^2},
I am having a little trouble understanding it too... the part:
P(A \mid B) = \frac{P(A \cap B)}{P(B)}.\,
Can you help me please, since you are so gifted in maths, and understand probability
And I stick to my word, I am sure if you were to try flip a coin until it landed 30 times in a row you would probably get struck by lighting before it happened
September 28, 2014, 08:50:15 PM
yeah right to see blocks of 10 within 30 tosses would take prolly even longer than hitting 20 straight! ..this string game you get sweeped with streaks of red like it's somehow "fair" for the game to cheat , just because you are up!!!? hmmm
hmmmApparently kids will be kids. If you bother informing yourself about provably fair, you would not make a fool of yourself with your posts. Seriously, you say nothing about it being rigged when you get win streaks but you get red streaks and lose its rigged.
Come on grow up. You're gambling. If you can't understand the coin flip test itself, then you should stay away from playing any gambling games.
No point in arguing with trolls, if someone thinks the game is not fair they can verify their rolls and mathematically prove it. This is a trustless system if you choose to make it so.
Yeah, but I got a thing against these type of smart people. Been a horde of them lately in chat as well. I'll try ignoring the usual trolls.
September 28, 2014, 08:46:28 PM
yeah right to see blocks of 10 within 30 tosses would take prolly even longer than hitting 20 straight! ..this string game you get sweeped with streaks of red like it's somehow "fair" for the game to cheat , just because you are up!!!? hmmm
hmmmApparently kids will be kids. If you bother informing yourself about provably fair, you would not make a fool of yourself with your posts. Seriously, you say nothing about it being rigged when you get win streaks but you get red streaks and lose its rigged.
Come on grow up. You're gambling. If you can't understand the coin flip test itself, then you should stay away from playing any gambling games.
No point in arguing with trolls, if someone thinks the game is not fair they can verify their rolls and mathematically prove it. This is a trustless system if you choose to make it so.
nope gotta trust you!
September 28, 2014, 08:45:17 PM
yeah right to see blocks of 10 within 30 tosses would take prolly even longer than hitting 20 straight! ..this string game you get sweeped with streaks of red like it's somehow "fair" for the game to cheat , just because you are up!!!? hmmm
hmmmApparently kids will be kids. If you bother informing yourself about provably fair, you would not make a fool of yourself with your posts. Seriously, you say nothing about it being rigged when you get win streaks but you get red streaks and lose its rigged.
Come on grow up. You're gambling. If you can't understand the coin flip test itself, then you should stay away from playing any gambling games.
i have one question ! : Who invented this term "provably fair" ?
..i bet you need to stfu now ! :\
September 28, 2014, 08:44:09 PM
yeah right to see blocks of 10 within 30 tosses would take prolly even longer than hitting 20 straight! ..this string game you get sweeped with streaks of red like it's somehow "fair" for the game to cheat , just because you are up!!!? hmmm
hmmmApparently kids will be kids. If you bother informing yourself about provably fair, you would not make a fool of yourself with your posts. Seriously, you say nothing about it being rigged when you get win streaks but you get red streaks and lose its rigged.
Come on grow up. You're gambling. If you can't understand the coin flip test itself, then you should stay away from playing any gambling games.
No point in arguing with trolls, if someone thinks the game is not fair they can verify their rolls and mathematically prove it. This is a trustless system if you choose to make it so.
September 28, 2014, 08:40:55 PM
yeah right to see blocks of 10 within 30 tosses would take prolly even longer than hitting 20 straight! ..this string game you get sweeped with streaks of red like it's somehow "fair" for the game to cheat , just because you are up!!!? hmmm
hmmmApparently kids will be kids. If you bother informing yourself about provably fair, you would not make a fool of yourself with your posts. Seriously, you say nothing about it being rigged when you get win streaks but you get red streaks and lose its rigged.
Come on grow up. You're gambling. If you can't understand the coin flip test itself, then you should stay away from playing any gambling games.
September 28, 2014, 08:36:55 PM
OOhhh... I know nothing about probability. This is what stunna has told all his orks to say. I am sure you understand probability right brah? You and ALL the mods understand \phi(x) = ce^{-h^2 x^2},
I am having a little trouble understanding it too... the part:
P(A \mid B) = \frac{P(A \cap B)}{P(B)}.\,
Can you help me please, since you are so gifted in maths, and understand probability
I am having a little trouble understanding it too... the part:
P(A \mid B) = \frac{P(A \cap B)}{P(B)}.\,
Can you help me please, since you are so gifted in maths, and understand probability
September 28, 2014, 08:33:03 PM
yeah right to see blocks of 10 within 30 tosses would take prolly even longer than hitting 20 straight! ..this string game you get sweeped with streaks of red like it's somehow "fair" for the game to cheat , just because you are up!!!? hmmm
hmmm September 28, 2014, 08:29:39 PM
HITTING BACK TO BACK LOSS STREAKS 9+ REALLY MAKES ME THINK "FAIR" LMFAO
50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUURE
50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUUREIts actually 49.5% chance.
Just sayin'.
you know what i'm saying ! lol ..back to back streaks of 9+ losses don't add up to "fair" anyway you slice it buck-o! :\
Check out what "provably fair" is. Ive seen a 30 red streak. Its just luck. Its not literally 1/2 bets will win if you do 2x lmfao
"Ive seen a 30 red streak. Its just luck. Its not literally 1/2 bets will win if you do 2x lmfao"
You've 'seen' a 30 red streak... not literally 1/2... this guy is on PD all the time and clearly a troll hired to run to their defense with these lame arguments. If you had a 30 loss streak Brah and not suspicious at all and ooh it's just luck then you make me even more suspicious for spewing such garbage. A 30 loss streak is more than 1/billion so perhaps you should are a little naive my friend. If I had a 30 loss streak I would be dubious. Im sure most people would. But you seem happy to sit at home defending PD all day even though you had a 30 loss streak and in a rather negative balance. Just luck please come to these arguments with something more that rhetoric defense. We are men talking about money here brah, not some guy living at his moms house wagering faucet all day
HITTING BACK TO BACK LOSS STREAKS 9+ REALLY MAKES ME THINK "FAIR" LMFAO
50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUURE
50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUUREIts actually 49.5% chance.
Just sayin'.
you know what i'm saying ! lol ..back to back streaks of 9+ losses don't add up to "fair" anyway you slice it buck-o! :\
Cheer up, so far I have hit a 19 loss streak, a 20 loss streak and have just found out some of my rolls were supposed to wins but incorrectly went down as losses. Amazing this 'overlooked flaw' seemed to be in PD's favour... interesting that..
Well, if theres a database of the bets to prove which rolls would've been wins, I think a refund is somewhat fair for those losses. But if those bets you doubled on we're based of a losing starting bet then anh.
Check out what "provably fair" is. Ive seen a 30 red streak. Its just luck. Its not literally 1/2 bets will win if you do 2x lmfao
well it's very deceptive to say 49% or whatever when the game is suppose to be completely random and uncalibrated at best..more likely purposefully rigged whereas the operator controls the outcome! :\
Again please read provably fair. Also the coin toss comment
@xfactor lol Well you need to learn about probabilities and test out flipping a coin 10000.
The site is legit and I'm not here to defend PD blindly. It just idiots like you guys who know nothing and bitch about losing a few bets. I get you lost a lot with because you ended doubling but the only refunds that should be given are those in which the roll number got a loss when it was in fact a win, so unless it applies to your doubled bets I don't see you getting a full refund for gambling.
Get off your high horse buddy, men dont cry like you guys.
HITTING BACK TO BACK LOSS STREAKS 9+ REALLY MAKES ME THINK "FAIR" LMFAO
50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUURE
50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUUREIts actually 49.5% chance.
Just sayin'.
you know what i'm saying ! lol ..back to back streaks of 9+ losses don't add up to "fair" anyway you slice it buck-o! :\
Try tossing your coin for 10 times to see if you will get 5 heads and 5 tails exactly.
Or try rolling an actual dice for 12 times to see if you will get each outcome exactly twice.
I mean, the losing streaks does not really prove the game is not fair.
fool ..when you start winning big and the game starts "streaking out" you can just tell there is something not right about that when you start seeing back to back 10+ streaks when you start betting up ...not to mention the glitches!!!
Lol at least read up on how gambling sites work. Rolls are predetermined. Too many kids keep coming onto gambling sites thinknig they'll win 2x bets 50%+ of the time when they barely started playing a few rolls. the statistic is not out of 2 rols, 10 rolls, etc It out of 1k or 10k I forget.
You also have to stay on one side (over or under) and 2x all the way otherwise its different % of winning =3
So Brah, if I flip a coin 10000 times you expect a 30 loss streak.. to think it is even possible at all.. I think if I gave you a coin and told you to flip it until it land heads 30 times in a row you will be dead before it ever happens
You burned yourself here. You know nothing about probability and think bad streaks mean the site is rigged. Well I'm done trying to get you to actually read and comprehend provably fair gambling.
I hope you learn sooner than later. Good luck being a skid.
September 28, 2014, 08:25:36 PM
HITTING BACK TO BACK LOSS STREAKS 9+ REALLY MAKES ME THINK "FAIR" LMFAO
50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUURE
50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUUREIts actually 49.5% chance.
Just sayin'.
you know what i'm saying ! lol ..back to back streaks of 9+ losses don't add up to "fair" anyway you slice it buck-o! :\
Check out what "provably fair" is. Ive seen a 30 red streak. Its just luck. Its not literally 1/2 bets will win if you do 2x lmfao
"Ive seen a 30 red streak. Its just luck. Its not literally 1/2 bets will win if you do 2x lmfao"
You've 'seen' a 30 red streak... not literally 1/2... this guy is on PD all the time and clearly a troll hired to run to their defense with these lame arguments. If you had a 30 loss streak Brah and not suspicious at all and ooh it's just luck then you make me even more suspicious for spewing such garbage. A 30 loss streak is more than 1/billion so perhaps you should are a little naive my friend. If I had a 30 loss streak I would be dubious. Im sure most people would. But you seem happy to sit at home defending PD all day even though you had a 30 loss streak and in a rather negative balance. Just luck please come to these arguments with something more that rhetoric defense. We are men talking about money here brah, not some guy living at his moms house wagering faucet all day
HITTING BACK TO BACK LOSS STREAKS 9+ REALLY MAKES ME THINK "FAIR" LMFAO
50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUURE
50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUUREIts actually 49.5% chance.
Just sayin'.
you know what i'm saying ! lol ..back to back streaks of 9+ losses don't add up to "fair" anyway you slice it buck-o! :\
Cheer up, so far I have hit a 19 loss streak, a 20 loss streak and have just found out some of my rolls were supposed to wins but incorrectly went down as losses. Amazing this 'overlooked flaw' seemed to be in PD's favour... interesting that..
Well, if theres a database of the bets to prove which rolls would've been wins, I think a refund is somewhat fair for those losses. But if those bets you doubled on we're based of a losing starting bet then anh.
Check out what "provably fair" is. Ive seen a 30 red streak. Its just luck. Its not literally 1/2 bets will win if you do 2x lmfao
well it's very deceptive to say 49% or whatever when the game is suppose to be completely random and uncalibrated at best..more likely purposefully rigged whereas the operator controls the outcome! :\
Again please read provably fair. Also the coin toss comment
@xfactor lol Well you need to learn about probabilities and test out flipping a coin 10000.
The site is legit and I'm not here to defend PD blindly. It just idiots like you guys who know nothing and bitch about losing a few bets. I get you lost a lot with because you ended doubling but the only refunds that should be given are those in which the roll number got a loss when it was in fact a win, so unless it applies to your doubled bets I don't see you getting a full refund for gambling.
Get off your high horse buddy, men dont cry like you guys.
HITTING BACK TO BACK LOSS STREAKS 9+ REALLY MAKES ME THINK "FAIR" LMFAO
50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUURE
50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUUREIts actually 49.5% chance.
Just sayin'.
you know what i'm saying ! lol ..back to back streaks of 9+ losses don't add up to "fair" anyway you slice it buck-o! :\
Try tossing your coin for 10 times to see if you will get 5 heads and 5 tails exactly.
Or try rolling an actual dice for 12 times to see if you will get each outcome exactly twice.
I mean, the losing streaks does not really prove the game is not fair.
fool ..when you start winning big and the game starts "streaking out" you can just tell there is something not right about that when you start seeing back to back 10+ streaks when you start betting up ...not to mention the glitches!!!
Lol at least read up on how gambling sites work. Rolls are predetermined. Too many kids keep coming onto gambling sites thinknig they'll win 2x bets 50%+ of the time when they barely started playing a few rolls. the statistic is not out of 2 rols, 10 rolls, etc It out of 1k or 10k I forget.
You also have to stay on one side (over or under) and 2x all the way otherwise its different % of winning =3
So Brah, if I flip a coin 10000 times you expect a 30 loss streak.. to think it is even possible at all.. I think if I gave you a coin and told you to flip it until it land heads 30 times in a row you will be dead before it ever happens
September 28, 2014, 08:22:54 PM
Guys, when you do a billion rolls ... those 30 loss streaks eventually come out. (I've done a million rolls on another site last year.)
It is pre-determined by all the seeds hashed together. Here's what you do, grab the server seed, your client seed, and compute your rolls with a nonce starting from 1, go up to 1 million. You'll know the result of your rolls. (But only after you have the server seed, which is after you randomize.)
ok so is it pre determined or a combination of the three seeds hashed together? :\
It is pre-determined by all the seeds hashed together. Here's what you do, grab the server seed, your client seed, and compute your rolls with a nonce starting from 1, go up to 1 million. You'll know the result of your rolls. (But only after you have the server seed, which is after you randomize.)
Yeah.. because a million is the same as billion right? If you get 30 losses in a row, in under 1 million rolls, you would have to have a chimpanzee's brain not to be suspicious
Are you...are you "special"? Seriously the chances 49.5% out of 1 million rolls is just 495000 wins, it doesnt mean you wont have lose streaks. Bet you woukldn't bitch if it were win streaks but if its reds "has to be rigged"?
You're an angry kid just because you can't comprehend provably fair gambling
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