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With all the almost daily ICOS.   Better transparency.  People with REAL HISTORY that you can read and check over and cross check.   Also ICOS that make more than 70k.  Without using MLM.  Also way better white papers.  How is it that the cheerleaders love this so much?  Just everything the cheerleaders post and the “explanations” behind the post are just so dubious and lame.  Any other coin I follow people dig and search and research and agree.   Here it’s all just fluffing the Contreras balls and high fiving.  Like OMG WHATEVER, the have an app <— (valley girl voice)

Way to go all you smart money......

Dickie D
legendary
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Off Topic...but does anyone here know what coin Louis Basenese is talking about that is having an ICO
on I believe August 28???

According to Louis...this new ICO will completely blow every other crypto currency out of the water
and pretty much replace Bitcoin as the #1 crypto.

However, he charges a small fee of $3,000.00 to learn what this crypto is.



 Grin
Didn't you notice the sales pitch in his talk?

I wonder why he needs that $3k after what he has been paid for PR and advertising this new Bitcoin-killer  Grin

I remember PayCoin - that one also was supposed to be the next Bitcoin, convenient, faster and just simply beautiful! Grin Where is it now?

Don't listen to those paid prophets, they worth nothing and are just good for misleading people.

...

Or maybe you just noticed this, so we get interested in that new super-currency?  Roll Eyes
Just like your friend (or alt-account) kevmon, who posted ref-link above?  Roll Eyes

Heh, those tricks are old as this world...
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Why pay a fee when you can just participate on your own...https://www.plexcoin.tech/?ref=sdpR0oSszX
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Off Topic...but does anyone here know what coin Louis Basenese is talking about that is having an ICO
on I believe August 28???

According to Louis...this new ICO will completely blow every other crypto currency out of the water
and pretty much replace Bitcoin as the #1 crypto.

However, he charges a small fee of $3,000.00 to learn what this crypto is.

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The dump is coming lol

Dickie D
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I feel vindicated.  It’s a shit coin lol. 

Dickie D
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I will be very happy and grateful to you all if someone will give me a couple of coins.

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I think the $3 per pro example was if they brought in their goal of 10 million new users of the coin in 16 months like they are hoping to do.  Now the total supply used at that point may be a lot less the 15 billion -- they could only have 1/2 billion released to the people by that point.  If at that point they have 15 billion released, it will not we worth $3.00.   We will have to wait and see what happens.   
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$3 price with 15 billion supply? Seriously?

I know that supply is not released yet, but it is hanging there (big part of it is not in escrow of any kind).

Look at the buy support at Cryptopia (this exchange is providing 90% of trade volume now). Do you see the number? Here it is for you: 2.21001664 BTC TOTAL BUY SUPPORT until 1 satoshi for this amazing coin. To me, that number is showing the real value of this coin.
I believe that is the real reason why developers didn't dump their premine yet. The more is buy support, the closer the dump. You may be right, and the dump is planned to be in 14 months, when things will be blooming due to MLM activity. With all those coins concentrated in single hand (especially when that holder is clearly is profit-oriented), scam in inevitable, sooner or later.

There is one more thing I know for sure: due to this being promoted via MLM, we will see more and more brilliant prospects pictured, and excited reviews published everywhere down the road - all coming from "genuinely interested persons". More and more every day - right until the dump comes.

I would need to investigate more on this though.. still many things to evaluate and understand. Thanks to ManFoundStanding for providing information and insight.


I totally agree with this... Time to leave this project. There are hundreds of better opportunities than this trashcoin!!!
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This coin is definitely a scam..

How can you have 15 billion coins, and expect us to pay such a high price...

This is not worth any of our time.

The team isn't even responsive. A red flag sign for sure.

Unresponsive team. Means scam!!!

Not just that... Nothing... No announcement, no updates for ages!!!... Nothing...



legendary
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$3 price with 15 billion supply? Seriously?

I know that supply is not released yet, but it is hanging there (big part of it is not in escrow of any kind).

Look at the buy support at Cryptopia (this exchange is providing 90% of trade volume now). Do you see the number? Here it is for you: 2.21001664 BTC TOTAL BUY SUPPORT until 1 satoshi for this amazing coin. To me, that number is showing the real value of this coin.
I believe that is the real reason why developers didn't dump their premine yet. The more is buy support, the closer the dump. You may be right, and the dump is planned to be in 14 months, when things will be blooming due to MLM activity. With all those coins concentrated in single hand (especially when that holder is clearly is profit-oriented), scam in inevitable, sooner or later.

There is one more thing I know for sure: due to this being promoted via MLM, we will see more and more brilliant prospects pictured, and excited reviews published everywhere down the road - all coming from "genuinely interested persons". More and more every day - right until the dump comes.

I would need to investigate more on this though.. still many things to evaluate and understand. Thanks to ManFoundStanding for providing information and insight.
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Hi Drays,

I do think this thread is basically dead.  So much other info (I don't have time to follow) coming from their other sources.  I do have high hopes the developers will move things forward, but I am watching closely.  (Their new app that comes out in a couple months sounds promising.)  I don't believe I am super educated about this coin, but if I understand things correctly, their "free money" that they are releasing really is not free.  (They get paid for them but through the merchants back end and through the MLM side of things.)  So I will imaging over the next few months they will slowly keep raising the price over time like they have been doing.  

Currently I believe they are intentionally pushing the price down and will hold it down for a few weeks.  Trying to get some of the MLM people to sell their coins now.  (That way they can sell them back to them for more later -- LOL.)  From there, especially when the new app is out, I believe they will start to move it up once again.  It will be interesting to see what happens over the next six months.  

They say they want to bring in millions upon millions of people in (10 million by the end of next year).  That sure can't happen until they get their act together more, but I have seen improvement and it looks like they want to succeed.   Just because there are so many coins, I highly doubt this coin could ever reach into the hundreds of dollars (unless there is a major collapse of the fiat currency) even if they wanted it too.  However, if they manage to only bring in 1/3 of their goal of new people into cryptocurrency, I would think/hope it would be in the dollar or two range.  (I do know a good percentage of the new Pro Currency people will get interested in Bitcoin and other alt coins so that will still be good news for the crypto even if the Pro developers turn out to be scammers.)

Still watching things with hopes.  Have a great day.
 

    

I do agree with some of your points. I feel the developers did
not raise enough money in their ICO to really get things moving.
I do not feel like they are trying to scam anyone at all.

The biggest source of the spread of this coin is on the MLM side.

$100 Educational Package comes with 1,000 Free PROC. This is like
getting it for $0.10 a coin. So I would imagine this coin should go
for $0.10 or greater for the rest of this month on the open market.

If next month the $100 package comes with say 769 coins. This is like
getting it for $0.13 a coin. So I would imagine this coin should go
for $0.13 or greater for the rest of that month on the open market.

Following this logic (just throwing out numbers here):
Month 3: $0.18
Month 4: $0.26
Month 5: $0.39
Month 6: $0.50
Month 7: $0.63
Month 8: $0.79
Month 9: $0.98
Month 10: $1.20
Month 11: $1.50
Month 12: $1.90
Month 13: $2.45
Month 14: $3.00
etc.

Most people on the MLM side purchase the smaller $100 & $500 training package.
With maybe 10% purchasing a $1,500 package or higher.

The people with the smaller package will most likely not sell any any time soon.
Some of the people with large packages will sell some. I personally sold a little
over $2,000 of PROC between the 1st and 8th of this month but I will be holding
on to the rest. So I guess I was partially responsible for the drop LOL...but this
drop was expected anyway by any logical person.

Note: The MLM company first started the mass distribution of the coin this month.
They had not given out any prior to this month.

I think the main thing keeping this coin afloat is the MLM side. Without it, the
coin would have been 100% dead a long time ago. Unlike most people on here, the
MLM portion is what made me interested in this coin because at least I know
their are going to be thousands out there with a vested interest in promoting
this coin!

Also, putting the numbers I threw out above in perspective.

Going from $0.10/coin to $3.00/coin represents a 2,900% increase in 14 months.

Compare to bitcoin. Bitcoin current price $3315 + 2,900% = $99,450

Could Bitcoin reach $99,450 in 14 months...maybe...but I think there is a higher
chance that PROC could reach $3.00+ in 14 months.

This coin was not designed to reach say $500/coin. The developers of this coin
wanted to create a coin where people transact in whole numbers. Ex: Instead of
paying in amounts like 0.00045. People can pay in 4.50 PROC. I can understand
this logic. I also believe this is the reason why Ripple has such a large supply also.
To me it kinda does make more sense than paying in these small tiny fractions.
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If bitcoin hadnt been on a tear lately this POS would be worth so much less. LOL

Dickie D.

Or like the many other alt coins -- they adjust to the increases and decreases of bitcoin and keep about the same USD value.  I am in one alt coin that has steadily remained a solid USD price over two years of ups and downs of BTC. 
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If bitcoin hadnt been on a tear lately this POS would be worth so much less. LOL

Dickie D.
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DELICIOUS., very interesting. Smiley
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And it’s already tanked and prolly only a fraction of coins came on the market. And if they’re keeping it low on purpose then what’s the point in investing?

Dickie

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The only money coming in is from the MLM side and if they sell PROC at a discount and hand out free rewards which is what they’re doing this is gonna be worth nothing.  This is onecoin 2.0

Dickie
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Oh Dickie,

Lets address you again.   Here we go ---

First -- Dickie said --- "So it stops becoming a scam if your self aware it’s a scam."  
My answer --- I thought I was clear in my message above but I guess not.  First off, many things have been and still are being called a scam when they are not.  A scam is a fraudulent business scheme and just because you are screaming scam about Pro Currency does not make it so.  Can your prove fraud?  No, you can't.  Still does that stop you from shout scam . . . nope . . .  you just sound like all the many people that shouted scam about bitcoin.  

So something is not a scam, until there is fraud.  Now if you shouted, "It has the potential for being a scam."  That would be a completely different way of thinking and my answer to that would be, "what doesn't".    

So the point I was making, if you are educated about what you want to put your money into and the potential unethical business practices -- I would not call that being scammed.  You are making a investment decision.  Anything involving people can become a scam by the fraud of the individuals.   Now when fraud becomes a part of the investment . . . yes your now technically being scammed but can you cry about it when you made the decision and had the awareness of the potential for the fraud.

Second -- I did not make a bad choice in getting involved in Pro Currency.  I invested some money, got it all back with a little more, and now have more Pro Currency as well.
 That sounds like a good choice.

Third -- Scammers are everywhere not just in crypto.  Become educated and you can avoid most scams.

Fourth -- I am not a fan of MLM marketing, but they are not scams.  (Yes the ones that do fraud are, but the many that don't are not.  Just like regular businesses.)  You just shouting scam about everything is silly.  

Fifth -- Dickie said, "Also I’m pretty disappointed you only had 8 long winded useless remarks.  I was hoping for a clean 10.  Lastly I bet you look real sexy in your cheerleader uniform."  -- once again you go to your lower energy put-downs/sarcasms.  That along with you not keeping your word shows what type of person your are.  (I had hopes you had left all of that behind.  Oh well.  Maybe I am wasting my time with you.)    

Sixth -- Dickie said, "And the founders of PROC and IPRO.... why is it that they practically don’t exist online?  No presence at all.  The bio about all the years of experience? What companies? What experience?  They barely disclosed the relationship between the two entities.  So obviously bad.  Laughably bad.  There’s no smart money invested in this gas station bonus bucks scam.  Lol."  ------ Many billions of business people practically don't exist online.  (I have a friend that is a business man worth 50 million and he practically does not exist online and likes it that way.)    Yes I see how they could be more forthcoming but that does not make they scammers.  Like I have stated time and time again, only time will tell if they are going to keep their word or not.  My smart money got in, and out, and now have a nest egg of Pro Currency.  If the company goes, great.  If not, then they probably lied and were trying to scam people even if there was not any fraud involved.  

Seventh -- Dickie said, "If you do any research.  Only people with an invested interest in this token are singing its praises.  All the positive articles are paid promotions.  So all that data is invalid and useless.  Any third party that’s not fluffing for PROC calls it what it is.  A piece of shit scam.  But ya, listen to the paid promoters lol.  Sheeple." ----- This just sounds like the early stages of any business and a lot like Bitcoin --- LOL.

Dickie you have made your view point quite clear about Pro Currency and I believe I understand your multiple agenda for your postings.  Like I have said many times in my other posts, time will tell.  I am waiting to see what happens to my current investment over the next six months to a year.  I would highly suggest people without the funds for loosing an investment, or are over worried about being scammed by this coin, should wait and see what happens too.  Hopefully the creators will follow their business plan and keep their word but only time will tell.  Waiting will have you miss out on a little of the profit from its start up phase . . . however, if its a good business there will be plenty of profit down the road.  (Just like Bitcoin now . . . LOL.)  




  




Why do you keep referring to keeping my word? What are you referring to?  When I said I’d buy one PROC FOR AN OUTRAGEOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY? is that really it? Lol.  Omg get over it.  I wouldn’t take PROC for free.  And MLM is notoriously bad for scams.  Why do you always play it down.  This is nothing like bitcoin because this is artificially inflated and manipulated and makes absolutely no sense. It’s called math.  So what if you made some money.  Go buy shares in a child porn ring.  Scams make money at first.  Doesn’t make it a good investment unless your morally deficient.

Dickie.
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Hi Drays,

I do think this thread is basically dead.  So much other info (I don't have time to follow) coming from their other sources.  I do have high hopes the developers will move things forward, but I am watching closely.  (Their new app that comes out in a couple months sounds promising.)  I don't believe I am super educated about this coin, but if I understand things correctly, their "free money" that they are releasing really is not free.  (They get paid for them but through the merchants back end and through the MLM side of things.)  So I will imaging over the next few months they will slowly keep raising the price over time like they have been doing. 

Currently I believe they are intentionally pushing the price down and will hold it down for a few weeks.  Trying to get some of the MLM people to sell their coins now.  (That way they can sell them back to them for more later -- LOL.)  From there, especially when the new app is out, I believe they will start to move it up once again.  It will be interesting to see what happens over the next six months. 

They say they want to bring in millions upon millions of people in (10 million by the end of next year).  That sure can't happen until they get their act together more, but I have seen improvement and it looks like they want to succeed.   Just because there are so many coins, I highly doubt this coin could ever reach into the hundreds of dollars (unless there is a major collapse of the fiat currency) even if they wanted it too.  However, if they manage to only bring in 1/3 of their goal of new people into cryptocurrency, I would think/hope it would be in the dollar or two range.  (I do know a good percentage of the new Pro Currency people will get interested in Bitcoin and other alt coins so that will still be good news for the crypto even if the Pro developers turn out to be scammers.)

Still watching things with hopes.  Have a great day.
 

   
legendary
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Well said crypto_1028.   :-)

Well, if not for this "troll", this thread would have been dead. You have to thank Dickie D for keeping on the fire Grin

But I have to admit, your answers are classy, they truly raise the bar for this place (and I mean BCT in general, not only this thread).

You know I am not a believer in this coin (the idea is good, but I don't trust in abilities and intentions of those developers). But I am keeping an eye on this project. It lasted longer than I initially expected. Either this is due to developers being unbelievably slow [even to scam properly], or they indeed are trying to do something. Maybe both...

In any case, this somewhat raises my interest. So I have a question - lets assume the devs are honest, and they proceed with their announced plans - why do you think the value of those coins will grow? The number of coins out in the market, is currently negligible (extremely small compared to whole suplly). The devs plan to release huge amounts of money to people, who supposedly should sell it all to get tangible cash back money. So those huge amounts of free money with constantly flow into the market, making this coin hyper-inflationary. What should stop it from constantly dropping in price?
I am not trolling here (never did); this is a genuine question, as I am not an expert in marketing or economics by any means, so would be interested in listening an educated opinion.
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