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According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?

Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

I still don't follow you can never be forgiven but at the same time only possibly be eternally damned? Being in danger of being hit by a bus is not the same as being hit by a bus.

The first quote was written by Mark, who has a different writing style than Luke or Matthew. Being in danger doesnt necessarily mean there's a way to avoid said danger,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/danger
"Danger is the general word for liability to all kinds of injury or evil consequences, either near at hand and certain, or remote and doubtful"

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Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 07:01:04 AM

Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 06:41:07 AM

Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 05:24:23 AM

According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?

Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

I still don't follow you can never be forgiven but at the same time only possibly be eternally damned? Being in danger of being hit by a bus is not the same as being hit by a bus.

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Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 06:41:07 AM

Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 05:24:23 AM

According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?

Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

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Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 05:24:23 AM

According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?

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Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 05:24:23 AM

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Mankind asked for imperfection? You do realize that makes no sense, right? People want sorrow, disease, death?!

he will know that God really exist when he is on that conditions and no one wants to help him out. Then it is the time to call to God so that He can prove to you that He is real, and He really do exists and He created everything. And He really loves each and everyone of us. But if he will harden his heart , and when he dies he will know that hell and heaven is real.

How about when God answers with a NO, as He usually does? Does He still exist? Or is it an empty hope?

Yes He still exist, and He will never say no to everyone that comes to Him.
John 6:37 King James Version (KJV)
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

There are some of us who are fucked for good, myself included.

For a loving all father He's very easy to get upset. And for good most of the times.

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Quote from: bonski on February 26, 2016, 08:04:24 PM

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Quote from: bonski on February 26, 2016, 07:55:20 PM

Quote from: eon89 on February 26, 2016, 07:51:57 PM

Mankind asked for imperfection? You do realize that makes no sense, right? People want sorrow, disease, death?!

he will know that God really exist when he is on that conditions and no one wants to help him out. Then it is the time to call to God so that He can prove to you that He is real, and He really do exists and He created everything. And He really loves each and everyone of us. But if he will harden his heart , and when he dies he will know that hell and heaven is real.

How about when God answers with a NO, as He usually does? Does He still exist? Or is it an empty hope?

Yes He still exist, and He will never say no to everyone that comes to Him.
John 6:37 King James Version (KJV)
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

There are some of us who are fucked for good, myself included.

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Quote from: eon89 on February 26, 2016, 09:12:48 PM

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Quote from: eon89 on February 26, 2016, 07:51:57 PM

Mankind asked for imperfection? You do realize that makes no sense, right? People want sorrow, disease, death?!

he will know that God really exist when he is on that conditions and no one wants to help him out. Then it is the time to call to God so that He can prove to you that He is real, and He really do exists and He created everything. And He really loves each and everyone of us. But if he will harden his heart , and when he dies he will know that hell and heaven is real.

How about when God answers with a NO, as He usually does? Does He still exist? Or is it an empty hope?

Yes He still exist, and He will never say no to everyone that comes to Him.
John 6:37 King James Version (KJV)
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

I asked him repeatedly to come and post in this forum. No response.

I guess he is busy Wink

God is posting through all the people who believe in Him, and express truth about Him.

Cool

Why always through people? Why not direct? Is there something to hide?

He is giving His people glory that way, and strengthening their faith. Your lack of faith in God is destroying you but it is strengthening us.

Cool

It's not a good sign when someone is hiding all the time. It's suspicious.

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Quote from: BADecker on February 26, 2016, 09:10:16 PM

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Quote from: eon89 on February 26, 2016, 07:57:21 PM

Quote from: bonski on February 26, 2016, 07:55:20 PM

Quote from: eon89 on February 26, 2016, 07:51:57 PM

Mankind asked for imperfection? You do realize that makes no sense, right? People want sorrow, disease, death?!

he will know that God really exist when he is on that conditions and no one wants to help him out. Then it is the time to call to God so that He can prove to you that He is real, and He really do exists and He created everything. And He really loves each and everyone of us. But if he will harden his heart , and when he dies he will know that hell and heaven is real.

How about when God answers with a NO, as He usually does? Does He still exist? Or is it an empty hope?

Yes He still exist, and He will never say no to everyone that comes to Him.
John 6:37 King James Version (KJV)
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

I see. So when parents of sick children pray to God for the child not to die, but the child still dies, God is there answering, right? I mean it does make sense, does it not?

Even parents of sick children have weak faith at times. Cool

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Quote from: buddycool on February 06, 2016, 03:24:03 PM

can you see the air you breath? no. can you feel it? do you believe its there? yes.
thats it. similar thing is with god.. i am not justifyimg a sinle religions god, because I don't want a single religion to be targeted...

Listen, neuroscientists are mapping how the human brain works as we speak. youtube Ray Kurzweil.
We are getting very close to fully understand what exactly is happening to our brain when we think, talk, write posts on bitcointalk.org, memorize things etc.

I bet religion is infecting the emotional part of your brain first, then it spreads to reasoning/logical part, essentially causing hallucinations, emotional short circuits etc.

You are right, it is not fair to single out one particular religion. They are all bat shit crazy. I see no distinguishable difference between them. People who believe in this stuff should be hospitalized. They pose danger to themselves and others.

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