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Daniel91
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 28, 2016, 09:03:31 AM
#922
Quote from: zabisux on February 28, 2016, 05:51:10 AM
God and all religions are just concepts of human mind.
I basically mean by that: humans created a god, in their own mind to give meaning to their lives.
But still, it does not exist and human lives worth none. Everyone will die, everyone will lose all they got.
World is such small place in whole universe, human was always egocentric but meaningless and worthless.

Interesting thinking but when we are talking about God we are talking about Creator first, creator of whole universe.
Science believe that the universe was created in a series of accidental and fortunate circumstances, but it can't prove it.
Religion believe that Universe is created by God but also can't prove it (because God is above time and space, he created it).
So, either we are egocentric (meaningless and worthless) or center of universe (as God's representatives), who can know for sure? Smiley
I personally believe in second option.
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 28, 2016, 08:37:01 AM
#921
Quote from: ?? on ??
Quote from: mrflibblehat on February 27, 2016, 09:50:26 PM
Quote from: af_newbie on February 27, 2016, 09:47:33 PM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 05:22:20 PM
Quote from: af_newbie on February 27, 2016, 01:37:21 PM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 07:35:20 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 07:16:12 AM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 07:07:49 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 07:01:04 AM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 06:41:07 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 05:24:23 AM
According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?


Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

I still don't follow you can never be forgiven but at the same time only possibly be eternally damned? Being in danger of being hit by a bus is not the same as being hit by a bus.
The first quote was written by Mark, who has a different writing style than Luke or Matthew. Being in danger doesnt necessarily mean there's a way to avoid said danger,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/danger
"Danger is the general word for liability to all kinds of injury or evil consequences, either near at hand and certain, or remote and doubtful"

Thanks, I didn't know that meaning of "danger".  I'd always just thought it meant "possible negative consequence".


Religious people redefine laws of physics, vocabulary and logic in order to make sense of the Bible  Wink
Whatever it takes to hide the truth.

The real definition is here.  No mention of evil  Wink

dan·ger
ˈdānjər/
noun
noun: danger

    the possibility of suffering harm or injury.
    "his life was in danger"
    synonyms:   peril, hazard, risk, jeopardy; More
    riskiness, precariousness, uncertainty, instability, insecurity
    "an element of danger"
    antonyms:   safety
        a person or thing that is likely to cause harm or injury.
        plural noun: dangers
        "infertile soils where drought is a danger"
        synonyms:   menace, hazard, threat, risk; More
        informal death trap, widow-maker
        "that car is a danger on the roads"
        the possibility of something unwelcome or unpleasant.
        "there was no danger of the champagne running out"
        synonyms:   possibility, chance, risk, probability, likelihood, fear, prospect
        "a serious danger of fire"

Source:
-------
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/danger
https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=D-rRVqDcLcGC8Qe8173wDA#q=danger+definition


PS. that dictionary.reference.com site is for religious Lingua franca.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_franca


You fucking moron, check the reference I provide and stick it up your ass

I knew a real Christian would come out sooner rather than later.

I provided real, not Christian dictionary to counter your abvious attempt to change the meaning of the English language.




Well that must've hurt. It did, didn't it? Smiley
Okay here asshole, by your quote:

        "a person or thing that is likely to cause harm or injury."

Eat a dick

You do realize you're talking to two people not one, do you?  Cheesy
af_newbie
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 26, 2016, 01:48:22 PM
#921
Quote from: magnific61 on February 26, 2016, 12:51:50 PM
...blah, blah, religious shit, blah, blah...
..
So there's a builder, a creator of that perfect system and that is GOD!

Universe is not a perfect system.  It is actually very violent and very hostile to life.

We are not perfect "design", more like agile design (as in Agile Development), small improvements over the course of the evolution.

Still, our jaws cannot fit all of our teeth, after millions of years of evolution...

God did not create us, God did not create the universe, God did not create Earth.  And finally, God does not exist.

You are arguing from ignorance.  What you don't understand you fill with "God did it".
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 28, 2016, 05:51:10 AM
#920
God and all religions are just concepts of human mind.
I basically mean by that: humans created a god, in their own mind to give meaning to their lives.
But still, it does not exist and human lives worth none. Everyone will die, everyone will lose all they got.
World is such small place in whole universe, human was always egocentric but meaningless and worthless.
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 28, 2016, 05:39:23 AM
#919
Quote from: af_newbie on February 27, 2016, 11:08:59 PM
Quote from: ?? on ??
Quote from: mrflibblehat on February 27, 2016, 09:50:26 PM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 05:22:20 PM
Quote from: af_newbie on February 27, 2016, 01:37:21 PM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 07:35:20 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 07:16:12 AM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 07:07:49 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 07:01:04 AM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 06:41:07 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 05:24:23 AM
According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?


Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

I still don't follow you can never be forgiven but at the same time only possibly be eternally damned? Being in danger of being hit by a bus is not the same as being hit by a bus.
The first quote was written by Mark, who has a different writing style than Luke or Matthew. Being in danger doesnt necessarily mean there's a way to avoid said danger,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/danger
"Danger is the general word for liability to all kinds of injury or evil consequences, either near at hand and certain, or remote and doubtful"

Thanks, I didn't know that meaning of "danger".  I'd always just thought it meant "possible negative consequence".


Religious people redefine laws of physics, vocabulary and logic in order to make sense of the Bible  Wink
Whatever it takes to hide the truth.

The real definition is here.  No mention of evil  Wink

dan·ger
ˈdānjər/
noun
noun: danger

    the possibility of suffering harm or injury.
    "his life was in danger"
    synonyms:   peril, hazard, risk, jeopardy; More
    riskiness, precariousness, uncertainty, instability, insecurity
    "an element of danger"
    antonyms:   safety
        a person or thing that is likely to cause harm or injury.
        plural noun: dangers
        "infertile soils where drought is a danger"
        synonyms:   menace, hazard, threat, risk; More
        informal death trap, widow-maker
        "that car is a danger on the roads"
        the possibility of something unwelcome or unpleasant.
        "there was no danger of the champagne running out"
        synonyms:   possibility, chance, risk, probability, likelihood, fear, prospect
        "a serious danger of fire"

Source:
-------
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/danger
https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=D-rRVqDcLcGC8Qe8173wDA#q=danger+definition


PS. that dictionary.reference.com site is for religious Lingua franca.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_franca


You fucking moron, check the reference I provide and stick it up your ass

I knew a real Christian would come out sooner rather than later.

I provided real, not Christian dictionary to counter your abvious attempt to change the meaning of the English language.




Well that must've hurt. It did, didn't it? Smiley
Okay here asshole, by your quote:

        "a person or thing that is likely to cause harm or injury."

Eat a dick
 
I was pointing out evil consequences bit in your Christian re-definition if the word danger.

Practice reading comprehension by reading from more than one book.
Are you suggesting that I hacked reference.com and changed a single word definition just to prove my point? Fuck off, for real. You were doing the exact same thing that Christians do: clinging onto one thread of an argument and calling it a point. You're no better than they are, and frankly much worse thanks to your blind ignorance.

Practice shutting your dick trap once in a while.
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 27, 2016, 09:59:47 PM
#918
Quote from: af_newbie on February 27, 2016, 09:47:33 PM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 05:22:20 PM
Quote from: af_newbie on February 27, 2016, 01:37:21 PM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 07:35:20 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 07:16:12 AM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 07:07:49 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 07:01:04 AM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 06:41:07 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 05:24:23 AM
According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?


Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

I still don't follow you can never be forgiven but at the same time only possibly be eternally damned? Being in danger of being hit by a bus is not the same as being hit by a bus.
The first quote was written by Mark, who has a different writing style than Luke or Matthew. Being in danger doesnt necessarily mean there's a way to avoid said danger,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/danger
"Danger is the general word for liability to all kinds of injury or evil consequences, either near at hand and certain, or remote and doubtful"

Thanks, I didn't know that meaning of "danger".  I'd always just thought it meant "possible negative consequence".


Religious people redefine laws of physics, vocabulary and logic in order to make sense of the Bible  Wink
Whatever it takes to hide the truth.

The real definition is here.  No mention of evil  Wink

dan·ger
ˈdānjər/
noun
noun: danger

    the possibility of suffering harm or injury.
    "his life was in danger"
    synonyms:   peril, hazard, risk, jeopardy; More
    riskiness, precariousness, uncertainty, instability, insecurity
    "an element of danger"
    antonyms:   safety
        a person or thing that is likely to cause harm or injury.
        plural noun: dangers
        "infertile soils where drought is a danger"
        synonyms:   menace, hazard, threat, risk; More
        informal death trap, widow-maker
        "that car is a danger on the roads"
        the possibility of something unwelcome or unpleasant.
        "there was no danger of the champagne running out"
        synonyms:   possibility, chance, risk, probability, likelihood, fear, prospect
        "a serious danger of fire"

Source:
-------
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/danger
https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=D-rRVqDcLcGC8Qe8173wDA#q=danger+definition


PS. that dictionary.reference.com site is for religious Lingua franca.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_franca


You fucking moron, check the reference I provide and stick it up your ass

I knew a real Christian would come out sooner rather than later.

I provided real, not Christian dictionary to counter your abvious attempt to change the meaning of the English language.



What in the fuck, I provided a referecence from the internet just like any asshole here could, you're so anti-god that you'll deny anything that isnt to your agenda. I wasn't even providing an argument in the favour of God and you're still being contrary. Go somdomize yourself, you waste of human flesh, you literally provide nothing beneficial to thw human race.
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 27, 2016, 09:50:26 PM
#917
Quote from: af_newbie on February 27, 2016, 09:47:33 PM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 05:22:20 PM
Quote from: af_newbie on February 27, 2016, 01:37:21 PM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 07:35:20 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 07:16:12 AM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 07:07:49 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 07:01:04 AM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 06:41:07 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 05:24:23 AM
According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?


Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

I still don't follow you can never be forgiven but at the same time only possibly be eternally damned? Being in danger of being hit by a bus is not the same as being hit by a bus.
The first quote was written by Mark, who has a different writing style than Luke or Matthew. Being in danger doesnt necessarily mean there's a way to avoid said danger,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/danger
"Danger is the general word for liability to all kinds of injury or evil consequences, either near at hand and certain, or remote and doubtful"

Thanks, I didn't know that meaning of "danger".  I'd always just thought it meant "possible negative consequence".


Religious people redefine laws of physics, vocabulary and logic in order to make sense of the Bible  Wink
Whatever it takes to hide the truth.

The real definition is here.  No mention of evil  Wink

dan·ger
ˈdānjər/
noun
noun: danger

    the possibility of suffering harm or injury.
    "his life was in danger"
    synonyms:   peril, hazard, risk, jeopardy; More
    riskiness, precariousness, uncertainty, instability, insecurity
    "an element of danger"
    antonyms:   safety
        a person or thing that is likely to cause harm or injury.
        plural noun: dangers
        "infertile soils where drought is a danger"
        synonyms:   menace, hazard, threat, risk; More
        informal death trap, widow-maker
        "that car is a danger on the roads"
        the possibility of something unwelcome or unpleasant.
        "there was no danger of the champagne running out"
        synonyms:   possibility, chance, risk, probability, likelihood, fear, prospect
        "a serious danger of fire"

Source:
-------
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/danger
https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=D-rRVqDcLcGC8Qe8173wDA#q=danger+definition


PS. that dictionary.reference.com site is for religious Lingua franca.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_franca


You fucking moron, check the reference I provide and stick it up your ass

I knew a real Christian would come out sooner rather than later.

I provided real, not Christian dictionary to counter your abvious attempt to change the meaning of the English language.




Well that must've hurt. It did, didn't it? Smiley
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 27, 2016, 09:45:23 PM
#916
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 09:42:08 PM
Quote from: mrflibblehat on February 27, 2016, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 09:04:55 PM
Quote from: mrflibblehat on February 27, 2016, 08:56:49 PM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 08:50:36 PM
Quote from: mrflibblehat on February 27, 2016, 08:39:16 PM
So when you don't get things your way, you start insulting people?
This clearly shows that you're for real.
The user above is trying to pull shots he doesn't stand a chance at landing . If either you or him would open your eyes you'd realize how rediculous  you look for challenging me.

Who are you that we're not supposed to challenge you?
You do realize that insulting people only makes you weak and not to be taken into consideration.
You want to be taken serious? Try logic and rational thought.
I give you logic that you reject so what point is there to argue with you?

Actually, if you've paid attention, you'd realize that you weren't discussing with me.
I just pointed you that bad manners won't get you far.
So what if people don't agree with you? It happens. Get over it. Your opinion is not the universal truth.
People have opinions and ides of their own you know.
Then you admit your comments are worthless, why are you here?

Now now little girl, don't get defensive. No need to get feisty. You'll get your knickers in a knot.
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 27, 2016, 09:42:08 PM
#915
Quote from: mrflibblehat on February 27, 2016, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 09:04:55 PM
Quote from: mrflibblehat on February 27, 2016, 08:56:49 PM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 08:50:36 PM
Quote from: mrflibblehat on February 27, 2016, 08:39:16 PM
So when you don't get things your way, you start insulting people?
This clearly shows that you're for real.
The user above is trying to pull shots he doesn't stand a chance at landing . If either you or him would open your eyes you'd realize how rediculous  you look for challenging me.

Who are you that we're not supposed to challenge you?
You do realize that insulting people only makes you weak and not to be taken into consideration.
You want to be taken serious? Try logic and rational thought.
I give you logic that you reject so what point is there to argue with you?

Actually, if you've paid attention, you'd realize that you weren't discussing with me.
I just pointed you that bad manners won't get you far.
So what if people don't agree with you? It happens. Get over it. Your opinion is not the universal truth.
People have opinions and ides of their own you know.
Then you admit your comments are worthless, why are you here?
mrflibblehat
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 27, 2016, 09:40:15 PM
#914
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 09:04:55 PM
Quote from: mrflibblehat on February 27, 2016, 08:56:49 PM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 08:50:36 PM
Quote from: mrflibblehat on February 27, 2016, 08:39:16 PM
So when you don't get things your way, you start insulting people?
This clearly shows that you're for real.
The user above is trying to pull shots he doesn't stand a chance at landing . If either you or him would open your eyes you'd realize how rediculous  you look for challenging me.

Who are you that we're not supposed to challenge you?
You do realize that insulting people only makes you weak and not to be taken into consideration.
You want to be taken serious? Try logic and rational thought.
I give you logic that you reject so what point is there to argue with you?

Actually, if you've paid attention, you'd realize that you weren't discussing with me.
I just pointed you that bad manners won't get you far.
So what if people don't agree with you? It happens. Get over it. Your opinion is not the universal truth.
People have opinions and ides of their own you know.
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 27, 2016, 09:04:55 PM
#913
Quote from: mrflibblehat on February 27, 2016, 08:56:49 PM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 08:50:36 PM
Quote from: mrflibblehat on February 27, 2016, 08:39:16 PM
So when you don't get things your way, you start insulting people?
This clearly shows that you're for real.
The user above is trying to pull shots he doesn't stand a chance at landing . If either you or him would open your eyes you'd realize how rediculous  you look for challenging me.

Who are you that we're not supposed to challenge you?
You do realize that insulting people only makes you weak and not to be taken into consideration.
You want to be taken serious? Try logic and rational thought.
I give you logic that you reject so what point is there to argue with you?
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 27, 2016, 08:56:49 PM
#912
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 08:50:36 PM
Quote from: mrflibblehat on February 27, 2016, 08:39:16 PM
So when you don't get things your way, you start insulting people?
This clearly shows that you're for real.
The user above is trying to pull shots he doesn't stand a chance at landing . If either you or him would open your eyes you'd realize how rediculous  you look for challenging me.

Who are you that we're not supposed to challenge you?
You do realize that insulting people only makes you weak and not to be taken into consideration.
You want to be taken serious? Try logic and rational thought.
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 27, 2016, 08:50:36 PM
#911
Quote from: mrflibblehat on February 27, 2016, 08:39:16 PM
So when you don't get things your way, you start insulting people?
This clearly shows that you're for real.
The user above is trying to pull shots he doesn't stand a chance at landing . If either you or him would open your eyes you'd realize how rediculous  you look for challenging me.
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 27, 2016, 08:39:16 PM
#910
So when you don't get things your way, you start insulting people?
This clearly shows that you're for real.
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 27, 2016, 05:22:20 PM
#909
Quote from: af_newbie on February 27, 2016, 01:37:21 PM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 07:35:20 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 07:16:12 AM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 07:07:49 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 07:01:04 AM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 06:41:07 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 05:24:23 AM
According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?


Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

I still don't follow you can never be forgiven but at the same time only possibly be eternally damned? Being in danger of being hit by a bus is not the same as being hit by a bus.
The first quote was written by Mark, who has a different writing style than Luke or Matthew. Being in danger doesnt necessarily mean there's a way to avoid said danger,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/danger
"Danger is the general word for liability to all kinds of injury or evil consequences, either near at hand and certain, or remote and doubtful"

Thanks, I didn't know that meaning of "danger".  I'd always just thought it meant "possible negative consequence".


Religious people redefine laws of physics, vocabulary and logic in order to make sense of the Bible  Wink
Whatever it takes to hide the truth.

The real definition is here.  No mention of evil  Wink

dan·ger
ˈdānjər/
noun
noun: danger

    the possibility of suffering harm or injury.
    "his life was in danger"
    synonyms:   peril, hazard, risk, jeopardy; More
    riskiness, precariousness, uncertainty, instability, insecurity
    "an element of danger"
    antonyms:   safety
        a person or thing that is likely to cause harm or injury.
        plural noun: dangers
        "infertile soils where drought is a danger"
        synonyms:   menace, hazard, threat, risk; More
        informal death trap, widow-maker
        "that car is a danger on the roads"
        the possibility of something unwelcome or unpleasant.
        "there was no danger of the champagne running out"
        synonyms:   possibility, chance, risk, probability, likelihood, fear, prospect
        "a serious danger of fire"

Source:
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/danger
https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=D-rRVqDcLcGC8Qe8173wDA#q=danger+definition


PS. that dictionary.reference.com site is for religious Lingua franca.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_franca


You fucking moron, check the reference I provide and stick it up your ass
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 27, 2016, 07:35:20 AM
#908
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 07:16:12 AM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 07:07:49 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 07:01:04 AM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 06:41:07 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 05:24:23 AM
According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?


Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

I still don't follow you can never be forgiven but at the same time only possibly be eternally damned? Being in danger of being hit by a bus is not the same as being hit by a bus.
The first quote was written by Mark, who has a different writing style than Luke or Matthew. Being in danger doesnt necessarily mean there's a way to avoid said danger,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/danger
"Danger is the general word for liability to all kinds of injury or evil consequences, either near at hand and certain, or remote and doubtful"

Thanks, I didn't know that meaning of "danger".  I'd always just thought it meant "possible negative consequence".
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 27, 2016, 07:16:12 AM
#907
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 07:07:49 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 07:01:04 AM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 06:41:07 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 05:24:23 AM
According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?


Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

I still don't follow you can never be forgiven but at the same time only possibly be eternally damned? Being in danger of being hit by a bus is not the same as being hit by a bus.
The first quote was written by Mark, who has a different writing style than Luke or Matthew. Being in danger doesnt necessarily mean there's a way to avoid said danger,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/danger
"Danger is the general word for liability to all kinds of injury or evil consequences, either near at hand and certain, or remote and doubtful"
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 27, 2016, 07:07:49 AM
#906
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 07:01:04 AM
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 06:41:07 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 05:24:23 AM
According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?


Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

I still don't follow you can never be forgiven but at the same time only possibly be eternally damned? Being in danger of being hit by a bus is not the same as being hit by a bus.
-XXIII-
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 27, 2016, 07:01:04 AM
#905
Quote from: organofcorti on February 27, 2016, 06:41:07 AM
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 05:24:23 AM
According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?


Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."
organofcorti
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Re: Proof that God exists
February 27, 2016, 06:41:07 AM
#904
Quote from: -XXIII- on February 27, 2016, 05:24:23 AM
According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?

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