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legendary
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February 26, 2016, 09:06:18 PM
God cant be proven that is why religion needs faith. But tbh some of you religious people seem to have some serious mental problems.
Dont feel offended just visit a doctor from time to time lol  Cry

Also time to unwatch this - that last god proof thread went 300 pages or something...

Except that when you combine the scientifically proven basic laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, either God exists or science doesn't.

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legendary
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February 26, 2016, 09:04:05 PM
Universe is not a perfect system.  It is actually very violent and very hostile to life.
How does an imperfect being such as a human begin to understand the definition of perfection? How could a mortal imagine infinity? God is everything man cannot be, yet man strives to mould himself in the likeness of God, to become like and greater than the most high. Those who have placed themselves above God deny the existence thereof, just as the mighty Satan defied God, so shall men who worship themselves be cut off from his kingdom.


And I wouldn't say 'violent towards life', more like 'chaotic'.

Man doesn't have to understand the definition of perfection. Just have (and that is easy to do) to understand and see imperfection all around us.

All you gotta do is look at all the imperfection around to see that even imperfection acts perfectly. Of course, if it didn't exist, then you could say that it didn't act at all.

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legendary
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February 26, 2016, 09:02:27 PM
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There are amongst us a group of people who believe that while there is no proof that God exists, there also is no proof that He doesn't exist.

Non-existence does not need a proof, you morons. It is the position by default. If you claim that some shit exists, you have to provide the proof. You don't have the proof? Then fuck off.


What's the matter? somebody hurt your itty bitty feelings?

Look at all the things that are in existence around us and everywhere. Then prove that non-existence is the norm by default. Of course, the closest you can come to that is by committing suicide, but then you won't be able to see that it is proven to anyone.

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February 26, 2016, 08:50:35 PM
Universe is not a perfect system.  It is actually very violent and very hostile to life.
How does an imperfect being such as a human begin to understand the definition of perfection? How could a mortal imagine infinity? God is everything man cannot be, yet man strives to mould himself in the likeness of God, to become like and greater than the most high. Those who have placed themselves above God deny the existence thereof, just as the mighty Satan defied God, so shall men who worship themselves be cut off from his kingdom.


And I wouldn't say 'violent towards life', more like 'chaotic'.

Man doesn't have to understand the definition of perfection. Just have (and that is easy to do) to understand and see imperfection all around us.
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February 26, 2016, 08:46:27 PM
Universe is not a perfect system.  It is actually very violent and very hostile to life.
How does an imperfect being such as a human begin to understand the definition of perfection? How could a mortal imagine infinity? God is everything man cannot be, yet man strives to mould himself in the likeness of God, to become like and greater than the most high. Those who have placed themselves above God deny the existence thereof, just as the mighty Satan defied God, so shall men who worship themselves be cut off from his kingdom.


And I wouldn't say 'violent towards life', more like 'chaotic'.
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February 26, 2016, 08:28:26 PM
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There are amongst us a group of people who believe that while there is no proof that God exists, there also is no proof that He doesn't exist.

Non-existence does not need a proof, you morons. It is the position by default. If you claim that some shit exists, you have to provide the proof. You don't have the proof? Then fuck off.
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February 26, 2016, 08:20:16 PM
God cant be prooven that is why religion needs faith. But tbh some of you religious people seem to have some serious mental problems.
Dont feel offended just visit a doctor from time to time lol  Cry

Also time to unwatch this - that last god proof thread went 300 pages or something...

Don't worry we already experienced it many times to be called to have serious mental problems because of God. If you will call me to be crazy with God , then I'm to happy be called like that rather than to be with people doing worldly things and persecuting people that believe God.

No one is persecuting you. Just don't be trying to convince people into believing in your imaginary friend. Keep it to yourself.
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February 26, 2016, 08:18:31 PM
God cant be prooven that is why religion needs faith. But tbh some of you religious people seem to have some serious mental problems.
Dont feel offended just visit a doctor from time to time lol  Cry

Also time to unwatch this - that last god proof thread went 300 pages or something...

Don't worry we already experienced it many times to be called to have serious mental problems because of God. If you will call me to be crazy with God , then I'm to happy be called like that rather than to be with people doing worldly things and persecuting people that believe God.
legendary
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February 26, 2016, 08:14:56 PM
God cant be proven that is why religion needs faith. But tbh some of you religious people seem to have some serious mental problems.
Dont feel offended just visit a doctor from time to time lol  Cry

Also time to unwatch this - that last god proof thread went 300 pages or something...
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February 26, 2016, 08:13:47 PM

Mankind asked for imperfection? You do realize that makes no sense, right? People want sorrow, disease, death?!

he will know that God really exist when he is on that conditions and no one wants to help him  out. Then it is the time to call to God so that He can prove to you that He is real, and He really do exists and He created everything. And He really loves each and everyone of us. But if he will harden his heart , and when he dies he will know that hell and heaven is real.

How about when God answers with a NO, as He usually does? Does He still exist? Or is it an empty hope?

Yes He still exist, and He will never say no to everyone that comes to Him.
John 6:37 King James Version (KJV)
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

I see. So when parents of sick children pray to God for the child not to die, but the child still dies, God is there answering, right? I mean it does make sense, does it not?

Yes, just like in our church which is 'Jesus Miracle Crusade International Ministry' we live by faith not by sight and we always ask the guidance of Dearest Jesus Christ and our beloved Pastor is a true prophet of God who went to the mountains of talipao jolo, sulu , Philippines went back year 2000(which is the den of lions) in short camp of terrorist group called Abu Sayyaf, but our beloved Pastor proved that our God is real and they came back alive after 3 months staying there and the sipadan hostages freed by the abu sayyaf commanders, in your example then if the child dies then it is God's will. God gives life, and God gets life.
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February 26, 2016, 08:13:01 PM

Mankind asked for imperfection? You do realize that makes no sense, right? People want sorrow, disease, death?!

he will know that God really exist when he is on that conditions and no one wants to help him  out. Then it is the time to call to God so that He can prove to you that He is real, and He really do exists and He created everything. And He really loves each and everyone of us. But if he will harden his heart , and when he dies he will know that hell and heaven is real.

How about when God answers with a NO, as He usually does? Does He still exist? Or is it an empty hope?

Yes He still exist, and He will never say no to everyone that comes to Him.
John 6:37 King James Version (KJV)
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

I asked him repeatedly to come and post in this forum.  No response.

I guess he is busy  Wink

No, no. He did answer, but you have not heard Him. Because reasons...
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February 26, 2016, 08:06:23 PM

Mankind asked for imperfection? You do realize that makes no sense, right? People want sorrow, disease, death?!

he will know that God really exist when he is on that conditions and no one wants to help him  out. Then it is the time to call to God so that He can prove to you that He is real, and He really do exists and He created everything. And He really loves each and everyone of us. But if he will harden his heart , and when he dies he will know that hell and heaven is real.

How about when God answers with a NO, as He usually does? Does He still exist? Or is it an empty hope?

Yes He still exist, and He will never say no to everyone that comes to Him.
John 6:37 King James Version (KJV)
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

I see. So when parents of sick children pray to God for the child not to die, but the child still dies, God is there answering, right? I mean it does make sense, does it not?
member
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February 26, 2016, 08:04:24 PM

Mankind asked for imperfection? You do realize that makes no sense, right? People want sorrow, disease, death?!

he will know that God really exist when he is on that conditions and no one wants to help him  out. Then it is the time to call to God so that He can prove to you that He is real, and He really do exists and He created everything. And He really loves each and everyone of us. But if he will harden his heart , and when he dies he will know that hell and heaven is real.

How about when God answers with a NO, as He usually does? Does He still exist? Or is it an empty hope?

Yes He still exist, and He will never say no to everyone that comes to Him.
John 6:37 King James Version (KJV)
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
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February 26, 2016, 07:57:21 PM

Mankind asked for imperfection? You do realize that makes no sense, right? People want sorrow, disease, death?!

he will know that God really exist when he is on that conditions and no one wants to help him  out. Then it is the time to call to God so that He can prove to you that He is real, and He really do exists and He created everything. And He really loves each and everyone of us. But if he will harden his heart , and when he dies he will know that hell and heaven is real.

How about when God answers with a NO, as He usually does? Does He still exist? Or is it an empty hope?
member
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February 26, 2016, 07:55:20 PM

Mankind asked for imperfection? You do realize that makes no sense, right? People want sorrow, disease, death?!

he will know that God really exist when he is on that conditions and no one wants to help him  out. Then it is the time to call to God so that He can prove to you that He is real, and He really do exists and He created everything. And He really loves each and everyone of us. But if he will harden his heart , and when he dies he will know that hell and heaven is real.
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February 26, 2016, 07:51:57 PM
...blah, blah, religious shit, blah, blah...
..
So there's a builder, a creator of that perfect system and that is GOD!

Universe is not a perfect system.  It is actually very violent and very hostile to life.

We are not perfect "design", more like agile design (as in Agile Development), small improvements over the course of the evolution.

Still, our jaws cannot fit all of our teeth, after millions of years of evolution...

God did not create us, God did not create the universe, God did not create Earth.  And finally, God does not exist.

You are arguing from ignorance.  What you don't understand you fill with "God did it".


After mankind asked for imperfection, and after God gave it to mankind, the imperfection that mankind asked for acts perfectly, according to universal laws.

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Mankind asked for imperfection? You do realize that makes no sense, right? People want sorrow, disease, death?!
member
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February 26, 2016, 07:22:10 PM
This forum proofs God's existence.
So,  can you claim that computers, internet lines, satellites,  even wires which carries data between distance become by coincidence?  NO! Nobody will accept that theory.
There are many engineers behind that technology. They worked and made all those stuffs we use.
What is the connection to God's existence?
From micro to macro whole universe can  became by coincidence.? If yes, how your mind accepts that, coincidence and decline other?
So there's a builder, a creator of that perfect system and that is GOD!

You got it mate, but everyone here is supposed to be an theist that they will keep on proving with the knowledge that they know and they would even mock God and persecute us that believe God.
legendary
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February 26, 2016, 03:27:48 PM
...blah, blah, religious shit, blah, blah...
..
So there's a builder, a creator of that perfect system and that is GOD!

Universe is not a perfect system.  It is actually very violent and very hostile to life.

We are not perfect "design", more like agile design (as in Agile Development), small improvements over the course of the evolution.

Still, our jaws cannot fit all of our teeth, after millions of years of evolution...

God did not create us, God did not create the universe, God did not create Earth.  And finally, God does not exist.

You are arguing from ignorance.  What you don't understand you fill with "God did it".


After mankind asked for imperfection, and after God gave it to mankind, the imperfection that mankind asked for acts perfectly, according to universal laws.

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February 26, 2016, 02:23:17 PM
Nobody is more blind than who doesn't wat to see.
full member
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February 26, 2016, 12:51:50 PM
This forum proofs God's existence.
So,  can you claim that computers, internet lines, satellites,  even wires which carries data between distance become by coincidence?  NO! Nobody will accept that theory.
There are many engineers behind that technology. They worked and made all those stuffs we use.
What is the connection to God's existence?
From micro to macro whole universe can  became by coincidence.? If yes, how your mind accepts that, coincidence and decline other?
So there's a builder, a creator of that perfect system and that is GOD!
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