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February 28, 2016, 11:47:11 AM
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There are amongst us a group of people who believe that while there is no proof that God exists, there also is no proof that He doesn't exist.

Non-existence does not need a proof, you morons. It is the position by default. If you claim that some shit exists, you have to provide the proof. You don't have the proof? Then fuck off.


What's the matter? somebody hurt your itty bitty feelings?

Look at all the things that are in existence around us and everywhere. Then prove that non-existence is the norm by default. Of course, the closest you can come to that is by committing suicide, but then you won't be able to see that it is proven to anyone.

Cool

You have a proof of fucking god? No? Fuck off.


Please don't start him again with the entropy and all that.
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February 28, 2016, 11:45:31 AM
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There are amongst us a group of people who believe that while there is no proof that God exists, there also is no proof that He doesn't exist.

Non-existence does not need a proof, you morons. It is the position by default. If you claim that some shit exists, you have to provide the proof. You don't have the proof? Then fuck off.


What's the matter? somebody hurt your itty bitty feelings?

Look at all the things that are in existence around us and everywhere. Then prove that non-existence is the norm by default. Of course, the closest you can come to that is by committing suicide, but then you won't be able to see that it is proven to anyone.

Cool

You have a proof of fucking god? No? Fuck off.
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February 28, 2016, 09:31:08 AM
GOD exist, proof is not required, for as long as you believe in GOD,

Yes, also Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy were mentioned here. Thank you.
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February 28, 2016, 09:30:08 AM
GOD exist, proof is not required, for as long as you believe in GOD,
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February 28, 2016, 09:26:54 AM
God and all religions are just concepts of human mind.
I basically mean by that: humans created a god, in their own mind to give meaning to their lives.
But still, it does not exist and human lives worth none. Everyone will die, everyone will lose all they got.
World is such small place in whole universe, human was always egocentric but meaningless and worthless.

Interesting thinking but when we are talking about God we are talking about Creator first, creator of whole universe.
Science believe that the universe was created in a series of accidental and fortunate circumstances, but it can't prove it.
Religion believe that Universe is created by God but also can't prove it (because God is above time and space, he created it).
So, either we are egocentric (meaningless and worthless) or center of universe (as God's representatives), who can know for sure? Smiley
I personally believe in second option.


Science can't prove it yet. Think of all the discoveries, and how much we've learned about the universe. And we will find all of its secrets.
This reminds me of the story of the tower of Babylon. Why did God stop people's ability to understand each other? We HE afraid that we'd reach His height?
Also, we can't be the center of the universe - that much is proved. We're not even the center of this galaxy.
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February 28, 2016, 09:03:31 AM
God and all religions are just concepts of human mind.
I basically mean by that: humans created a god, in their own mind to give meaning to their lives.
But still, it does not exist and human lives worth none. Everyone will die, everyone will lose all they got.
World is such small place in whole universe, human was always egocentric but meaningless and worthless.

Interesting thinking but when we are talking about God we are talking about Creator first, creator of whole universe.
Science believe that the universe was created in a series of accidental and fortunate circumstances, but it can't prove it.
Religion believe that Universe is created by God but also can't prove it (because God is above time and space, he created it).
So, either we are egocentric (meaningless and worthless) or center of universe (as God's representatives), who can know for sure? Smiley
I personally believe in second option.
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February 28, 2016, 08:37:01 AM
According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?


Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

I still don't follow you can never be forgiven but at the same time only possibly be eternally damned? Being in danger of being hit by a bus is not the same as being hit by a bus.
The first quote was written by Mark, who has a different writing style than Luke or Matthew. Being in danger doesnt necessarily mean there's a way to avoid said danger,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/danger
"Danger is the general word for liability to all kinds of injury or evil consequences, either near at hand and certain, or remote and doubtful"

Thanks, I didn't know that meaning of "danger".  I'd always just thought it meant "possible negative consequence".


Religious people redefine laws of physics, vocabulary and logic in order to make sense of the Bible  Wink
Whatever it takes to hide the truth.

The real definition is here.  No mention of evil  Wink

dan·ger
ˈdānjər/
noun
noun: danger

    the possibility of suffering harm or injury.
    "his life was in danger"
    synonyms:   peril, hazard, risk, jeopardy; More
    riskiness, precariousness, uncertainty, instability, insecurity
    "an element of danger"
    antonyms:   safety
        a person or thing that is likely to cause harm or injury.
        plural noun: dangers
        "infertile soils where drought is a danger"
        synonyms:   menace, hazard, threat, risk; More
        informal death trap, widow-maker
        "that car is a danger on the roads"
        the possibility of something unwelcome or unpleasant.
        "there was no danger of the champagne running out"
        synonyms:   possibility, chance, risk, probability, likelihood, fear, prospect
        "a serious danger of fire"

Source:
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/danger
https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=D-rRVqDcLcGC8Qe8173wDA#q=danger+definition


PS. that dictionary.reference.com site is for religious Lingua franca.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_franca


You fucking moron, check the reference I provide and stick it up your ass

I knew a real Christian would come out sooner rather than later.

I provided real, not Christian dictionary to counter your abvious attempt to change the meaning of the English language.




Well that must've hurt. It did, didn't it? Smiley
Okay here asshole, by your quote:

        "a person or thing that is likely to cause harm or injury."

Eat a dick

You do realize you're talking to two people not one, do you?  Cheesy
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February 28, 2016, 05:51:10 AM
God and all religions are just concepts of human mind.
I basically mean by that: humans created a god, in their own mind to give meaning to their lives.
But still, it does not exist and human lives worth none. Everyone will die, everyone will lose all they got.
World is such small place in whole universe, human was always egocentric but meaningless and worthless.
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February 28, 2016, 05:39:23 AM
According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?


Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

I still don't follow you can never be forgiven but at the same time only possibly be eternally damned? Being in danger of being hit by a bus is not the same as being hit by a bus.
The first quote was written by Mark, who has a different writing style than Luke or Matthew. Being in danger doesnt necessarily mean there's a way to avoid said danger,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/danger
"Danger is the general word for liability to all kinds of injury or evil consequences, either near at hand and certain, or remote and doubtful"

Thanks, I didn't know that meaning of "danger".  I'd always just thought it meant "possible negative consequence".


Religious people redefine laws of physics, vocabulary and logic in order to make sense of the Bible  Wink
Whatever it takes to hide the truth.

The real definition is here.  No mention of evil  Wink

dan·ger
ˈdānjər/
noun
noun: danger

    the possibility of suffering harm or injury.
    "his life was in danger"
    synonyms:   peril, hazard, risk, jeopardy; More
    riskiness, precariousness, uncertainty, instability, insecurity
    "an element of danger"
    antonyms:   safety
        a person or thing that is likely to cause harm or injury.
        plural noun: dangers
        "infertile soils where drought is a danger"
        synonyms:   menace, hazard, threat, risk; More
        informal death trap, widow-maker
        "that car is a danger on the roads"
        the possibility of something unwelcome or unpleasant.
        "there was no danger of the champagne running out"
        synonyms:   possibility, chance, risk, probability, likelihood, fear, prospect
        "a serious danger of fire"

Source:
-------
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/danger
https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=D-rRVqDcLcGC8Qe8173wDA#q=danger+definition


PS. that dictionary.reference.com site is for religious Lingua franca.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_franca


You fucking moron, check the reference I provide and stick it up your ass

I knew a real Christian would come out sooner rather than later.

I provided real, not Christian dictionary to counter your abvious attempt to change the meaning of the English language.




Well that must've hurt. It did, didn't it? Smiley
Okay here asshole, by your quote:

        "a person or thing that is likely to cause harm or injury."

Eat a dick
 
I was pointing out evil consequences bit in your Christian re-definition if the word danger.

Practice reading comprehension by reading from more than one book.
Are you suggesting that I hacked reference.com and changed a single word definition just to prove my point? Fuck off, for real. You were doing the exact same thing that Christians do: clinging onto one thread of an argument and calling it a point. You're no better than they are, and frankly much worse thanks to your blind ignorance.

Practice shutting your dick trap once in a while.
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February 27, 2016, 09:59:47 PM
According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?


Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

I still don't follow you can never be forgiven but at the same time only possibly be eternally damned? Being in danger of being hit by a bus is not the same as being hit by a bus.
The first quote was written by Mark, who has a different writing style than Luke or Matthew. Being in danger doesnt necessarily mean there's a way to avoid said danger,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/danger
"Danger is the general word for liability to all kinds of injury or evil consequences, either near at hand and certain, or remote and doubtful"

Thanks, I didn't know that meaning of "danger".  I'd always just thought it meant "possible negative consequence".


Religious people redefine laws of physics, vocabulary and logic in order to make sense of the Bible  Wink
Whatever it takes to hide the truth.

The real definition is here.  No mention of evil  Wink

dan·ger
ˈdānjər/
noun
noun: danger

    the possibility of suffering harm or injury.
    "his life was in danger"
    synonyms:   peril, hazard, risk, jeopardy; More
    riskiness, precariousness, uncertainty, instability, insecurity
    "an element of danger"
    antonyms:   safety
        a person or thing that is likely to cause harm or injury.
        plural noun: dangers
        "infertile soils where drought is a danger"
        synonyms:   menace, hazard, threat, risk; More
        informal death trap, widow-maker
        "that car is a danger on the roads"
        the possibility of something unwelcome or unpleasant.
        "there was no danger of the champagne running out"
        synonyms:   possibility, chance, risk, probability, likelihood, fear, prospect
        "a serious danger of fire"

Source:
-------
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/danger
https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=D-rRVqDcLcGC8Qe8173wDA#q=danger+definition


PS. that dictionary.reference.com site is for religious Lingua franca.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_franca


You fucking moron, check the reference I provide and stick it up your ass

I knew a real Christian would come out sooner rather than later.

I provided real, not Christian dictionary to counter your abvious attempt to change the meaning of the English language.



What in the fuck, I provided a referecence from the internet just like any asshole here could, you're so anti-god that you'll deny anything that isnt to your agenda. I wasn't even providing an argument in the favour of God and you're still being contrary. Go somdomize yourself, you waste of human flesh, you literally provide nothing beneficial to thw human race.
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February 27, 2016, 09:50:26 PM
According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?


Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

I still don't follow you can never be forgiven but at the same time only possibly be eternally damned? Being in danger of being hit by a bus is not the same as being hit by a bus.
The first quote was written by Mark, who has a different writing style than Luke or Matthew. Being in danger doesnt necessarily mean there's a way to avoid said danger,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/danger
"Danger is the general word for liability to all kinds of injury or evil consequences, either near at hand and certain, or remote and doubtful"

Thanks, I didn't know that meaning of "danger".  I'd always just thought it meant "possible negative consequence".


Religious people redefine laws of physics, vocabulary and logic in order to make sense of the Bible  Wink
Whatever it takes to hide the truth.

The real definition is here.  No mention of evil  Wink

dan·ger
ˈdānjər/
noun
noun: danger

    the possibility of suffering harm or injury.
    "his life was in danger"
    synonyms:   peril, hazard, risk, jeopardy; More
    riskiness, precariousness, uncertainty, instability, insecurity
    "an element of danger"
    antonyms:   safety
        a person or thing that is likely to cause harm or injury.
        plural noun: dangers
        "infertile soils where drought is a danger"
        synonyms:   menace, hazard, threat, risk; More
        informal death trap, widow-maker
        "that car is a danger on the roads"
        the possibility of something unwelcome or unpleasant.
        "there was no danger of the champagne running out"
        synonyms:   possibility, chance, risk, probability, likelihood, fear, prospect
        "a serious danger of fire"

Source:
-------
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/danger
https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=D-rRVqDcLcGC8Qe8173wDA#q=danger+definition


PS. that dictionary.reference.com site is for religious Lingua franca.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_franca


You fucking moron, check the reference I provide and stick it up your ass

I knew a real Christian would come out sooner rather than later.

I provided real, not Christian dictionary to counter your abvious attempt to change the meaning of the English language.




Well that must've hurt. It did, didn't it? Smiley
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February 27, 2016, 09:45:23 PM
So when you don't get things your way, you start insulting people?
This clearly shows that you're for real.
The user above is trying to pull shots he doesn't stand a chance at landing . If either you or him would open your eyes you'd realize how rediculous  you look for challenging me.

Who are you that we're not supposed to challenge you?
You do realize that insulting people only makes you weak and not to be taken into consideration.
You want to be taken serious? Try logic and rational thought.
I give you logic that you reject so what point is there to argue with you?

Actually, if you've paid attention, you'd realize that you weren't discussing with me.
I just pointed you that bad manners won't get you far.
So what if people don't agree with you? It happens. Get over it. Your opinion is not the universal truth.
People have opinions and ides of their own you know.
Then you admit your comments are worthless, why are you here?

Now now little girl, don't get defensive. No need to get feisty. You'll get your knickers in a knot.
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February 27, 2016, 09:42:08 PM
So when you don't get things your way, you start insulting people?
This clearly shows that you're for real.
The user above is trying to pull shots he doesn't stand a chance at landing . If either you or him would open your eyes you'd realize how rediculous  you look for challenging me.

Who are you that we're not supposed to challenge you?
You do realize that insulting people only makes you weak and not to be taken into consideration.
You want to be taken serious? Try logic and rational thought.
I give you logic that you reject so what point is there to argue with you?

Actually, if you've paid attention, you'd realize that you weren't discussing with me.
I just pointed you that bad manners won't get you far.
So what if people don't agree with you? It happens. Get over it. Your opinion is not the universal truth.
People have opinions and ides of their own you know.
Then you admit your comments are worthless, why are you here?
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February 27, 2016, 09:40:15 PM
So when you don't get things your way, you start insulting people?
This clearly shows that you're for real.
The user above is trying to pull shots he doesn't stand a chance at landing . If either you or him would open your eyes you'd realize how rediculous  you look for challenging me.

Who are you that we're not supposed to challenge you?
You do realize that insulting people only makes you weak and not to be taken into consideration.
You want to be taken serious? Try logic and rational thought.
I give you logic that you reject so what point is there to argue with you?

Actually, if you've paid attention, you'd realize that you weren't discussing with me.
I just pointed you that bad manners won't get you far.
So what if people don't agree with you? It happens. Get over it. Your opinion is not the universal truth.
People have opinions and ides of their own you know.
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February 27, 2016, 09:04:55 PM
So when you don't get things your way, you start insulting people?
This clearly shows that you're for real.
The user above is trying to pull shots he doesn't stand a chance at landing . If either you or him would open your eyes you'd realize how rediculous  you look for challenging me.

Who are you that we're not supposed to challenge you?
You do realize that insulting people only makes you weak and not to be taken into consideration.
You want to be taken serious? Try logic and rational thought.
I give you logic that you reject so what point is there to argue with you?
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February 27, 2016, 08:56:49 PM
So when you don't get things your way, you start insulting people?
This clearly shows that you're for real.
The user above is trying to pull shots he doesn't stand a chance at landing . If either you or him would open your eyes you'd realize how rediculous  you look for challenging me.

Who are you that we're not supposed to challenge you?
You do realize that insulting people only makes you weak and not to be taken into consideration.
You want to be taken serious? Try logic and rational thought.
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February 27, 2016, 08:50:36 PM
So when you don't get things your way, you start insulting people?
This clearly shows that you're for real.
The user above is trying to pull shots he doesn't stand a chance at landing . If either you or him would open your eyes you'd realize how rediculous  you look for challenging me.
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February 27, 2016, 08:39:16 PM
So when you don't get things your way, you start insulting people?
This clearly shows that you're for real.
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February 27, 2016, 05:22:20 PM
According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?


Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

I still don't follow you can never be forgiven but at the same time only possibly be eternally damned? Being in danger of being hit by a bus is not the same as being hit by a bus.
The first quote was written by Mark, who has a different writing style than Luke or Matthew. Being in danger doesnt necessarily mean there's a way to avoid said danger,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/danger
"Danger is the general word for liability to all kinds of injury or evil consequences, either near at hand and certain, or remote and doubtful"

Thanks, I didn't know that meaning of "danger".  I'd always just thought it meant "possible negative consequence".


Religious people redefine laws of physics, vocabulary and logic in order to make sense of the Bible  Wink
Whatever it takes to hide the truth.

The real definition is here.  No mention of evil  Wink

dan·ger
ˈdānjər/
noun
noun: danger

    the possibility of suffering harm or injury.
    "his life was in danger"
    synonyms:   peril, hazard, risk, jeopardy; More
    riskiness, precariousness, uncertainty, instability, insecurity
    "an element of danger"
    antonyms:   safety
        a person or thing that is likely to cause harm or injury.
        plural noun: dangers
        "infertile soils where drought is a danger"
        synonyms:   menace, hazard, threat, risk; More
        informal death trap, widow-maker
        "that car is a danger on the roads"
        the possibility of something unwelcome or unpleasant.
        "there was no danger of the champagne running out"
        synonyms:   possibility, chance, risk, probability, likelihood, fear, prospect
        "a serious danger of fire"

Source:
-------
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/danger
https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=D-rRVqDcLcGC8Qe8173wDA#q=danger+definition


PS. that dictionary.reference.com site is for religious Lingua franca.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_franca


You fucking moron, check the reference I provide and stick it up your ass
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February 27, 2016, 07:35:20 AM
According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?


Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

I still don't follow you can never be forgiven but at the same time only possibly be eternally damned? Being in danger of being hit by a bus is not the same as being hit by a bus.
The first quote was written by Mark, who has a different writing style than Luke or Matthew. Being in danger doesnt necessarily mean there's a way to avoid said danger,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/danger
"Danger is the general word for liability to all kinds of injury or evil consequences, either near at hand and certain, or remote and doubtful"

Thanks, I didn't know that meaning of "danger".  I'd always just thought it meant "possible negative consequence".
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