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legendary
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March 03, 2016, 01:17:22 AM
read The God Delusion book by Richard Dawkins.

i read the book which you have mentioned before.. yes, i guess he exactly proved god doesnt exist in this book.. everyone should read the book.. it will really change their mind over this subject..
newbie
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March 03, 2016, 01:02:25 AM
read The God Delusion book by Richard Dawkins.
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March 03, 2016, 12:59:52 AM
Who know God .... can you ask him a question for me please?
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March 02, 2016, 10:23:55 PM
This is too much. People say one thing and you are saying another. Are you drunk Decker?
legendary
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March 02, 2016, 08:25:19 PM

You are severely confused.  Genetic code is not programming for evolution.

You don't seem to understand what evolution is.

Stick with Bible.

No, it is you who are entirely confused. Scientists and geneticists will tell you right out that the genetic code is programming. Since all living things have it, it is programming for and within all evolution and mutations.

The evolution that you are talking about is genuine guesswork. Real evolution, whatever it is, has been programmed into existence, by cause and effect programming, just like the rest of the universe has. It (cause and effect) is scientific law in effect in abundance, all over the place, and nobody has been able to refute it in any factual way whatsoever.

Cool

Genetic code and evolution are two different things. 
Am I supposed to be thrilled that you understand this or something? All you have to do is look at the spelling of the words to see that they are different.


What is the "cause and effect programming"?  What is the algorithm for "cause and effect programming"?  I really would like to know. 
All you have to do is dig out a copy of Newton's 3rd Law, show it to a mathematician, and get him to write up the algorithm for you.


So YOU don't know.  So stop talking about it as though it is a fact.

I asked you for algorithms for evolution and "cause and effect" since you said you KNOW both were  "programmed" (by God I assume).  How do you know that?
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Well, I don't believe that I ever said that cause and effect have been programmed. But you might be right that even they are.
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Cool

Just look up in your previous posts.  I even highlighted it in bold font before I replied to you.



See how dense you are? You don't even recognize the difference between cause and effect doing the programming, and cause and effect, itself, being programed.

 Grin

I'm here to expose your religious mambo jumbo.

So that's why you are having such a difficult time. You don't even recognize your own.

 Grin
legendary
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March 02, 2016, 07:43:57 PM

You are severely confused.  Genetic code is not programming for evolution.

You don't seem to understand what evolution is.

Stick with Bible.

No, it is you who are entirely confused. Scientists and geneticists will tell you right out that the genetic code is programming. Since all living things have it, it is programming for and within all evolution and mutations.

The evolution that you are talking about is genuine guesswork. Real evolution, whatever it is, has been programmed into existence, by cause and effect programming, just like the rest of the universe has. It (cause and effect) is scientific law in effect in abundance, all over the place, and nobody has been able to refute it in any factual way whatsoever.

Cool

Genetic code and evolution are two different things. 
Am I supposed to be thrilled that you understand this or something? All you have to do is look at the spelling of the words to see that they are different.


What is the "cause and effect programming"?  What is the algorithm for "cause and effect programming"?  I really would like to know. 
All you have to do is dig out a copy of Newton's 3rd Law, show it to a mathematician, and get him to write up the algorithm for you.


So YOU don't know.  So stop talking about it as though it is a fact.

I asked you for algorithms for evolution and "cause and effect" since you said you KNOW both were  "programmed" (by God I assume).  How do you know that?
...
Well, I don't believe that I ever said that cause and effect have been programmed. But you might be right that even they are.
...

Cool

Just look up in your previous posts.  I even highlighted it in bold font before I replied to you.



See how dense you are? You don't even recognize the difference between cause and effect doing the programming, and cause and effect, itself, being programed.

 Grin
legendary
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Merit: 1385
March 02, 2016, 03:56:25 PM

You are severely confused.  Genetic code is not programming for evolution.

You don't seem to understand what evolution is.

Stick with Bible.

No, it is you who are entirely confused. Scientists and geneticists will tell you right out that the genetic code is programming. Since all living things have it, it is programming for and within all evolution and mutations.

The evolution that you are talking about is genuine guesswork. Real evolution, whatever it is, has been programmed into existence, by cause and effect programming, just like the rest of the universe has. It (cause and effect) is scientific law in effect in abundance, all over the place, and nobody has been able to refute it in any factual way whatsoever.

Cool

Genetic code and evolution are two different things. 
Am I supposed to be thrilled that you understand this or something? All you have to do is look at the spelling of the words to see that they are different.


What is the "cause and effect programming"?  What is the algorithm for "cause and effect programming"?  I really would like to know. 
All you have to do is dig out a copy of Newton's 3rd Law, show it to a mathematician, and get him to write up the algorithm for you.


I asked you for algorithms for evolution and "cause and effect" since you said you KNOW both were  "programmed" (by God I assume).  How do you know that?

Well, I don't believe that I ever said that cause and effect have been programmed. But you might be right that even they are.

I can tell you were never in the military. In the military, especially in basic, they tell you what they are going to tell you. Then they tell it to you. Then they tell you that they told it to you. You forgot the part about that you were going to tell (ask) it to me before you actually said it.

Cause and effect is the programming in action. We know it by the fact that every effect has one or more causes, and those causes have causes, etc., back as far as we can imagine. We see no random operation involved in anything, and no source that we can put our finger on for the causation to exist at all. We can deduce, however, from the complexity of the cause and effect actions, that whatever started the cause and effect going, fits our definition of the complexity of "God."

Cool
legendary
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March 02, 2016, 03:15:13 PM
New video posted today, just for BADecker...

AronRa - Evolution is absolutely a Fact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS62TkYOVGQ

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Whatever evolution is, it's great programming.
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and you know this how?  

Please post the program or its algorithm.

PS. So mutations are programmed?  What is the algorithm?

The programming of so-called evolution is in the genetic code.

Mutations and other changes to the genetic code are caused by outside influences disrupting the genetic code.

Both, the genetic code and the outside influences are caused to exist in the way that they do because of causal actions of other genetic programming and outside influences. It's in cause and effect - upheld by Newton's 3rd Law.

Does you mommy still wipe your mouth when you are eating? How in the world do you even think enough to formulate questions?

Cool

You are severely confused.  Genetic code is not programming for evolution.

You don't seem to understand what evolution is.

Stick with Bible.

No, it is you who are entirely confused. Scientists and geneticists will tell you right out that the genetic code is programming. Since all living things have it, it is programming for and within all evolution and mutations.

The evolution that you are talking about is genuine guesswork. Real evolution, whatever it is, has been programmed into existence, by cause and effect programming, just like the rest of the universe has. It (cause and effect) is scientific law in effect in abundance, all over the place, and nobody has been able to refute it in any factual way whatsoever.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
March 02, 2016, 02:48:55 PM
New video posted today, just for BADecker...

AronRa - Evolution is absolutely a Fact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS62TkYOVGQ

...
Whatever evolution is, it's great programming.
...

and you know this how? 

Please post the program or its algorithm.

PS. So mutations are programmed?  What is the algorithm?

The programming of so-called evolution is in the genetic code.

Mutations and other changes to the genetic code are caused by outside influences disrupting the genetic code.

Both, the genetic code and the outside influences are caused to exist in the way that they do because of causal actions of other genetic programming and outside influences. It's in cause and effect - upheld by Newton's 3rd Law.

Does you mommy still wipe your mouth when you are eating? How in the world do you even think enough to formulate questions?

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
March 02, 2016, 01:59:34 PM
New video posted today, just for BADecker...

AronRa - Evolution is absolutely a Fact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS62TkYOVGQ

Hey, thanks Moloch.

The point isn't about if evolution is a fact or not. Whatever the thing that evolution is, we can call it evolution or gobbledygook or anything else we want.

The important points about evolution are, where does it come from, and what is it, really.

Since the scientific law of cause and effect (which is upheld by Newton's 3rd Law) shows that everything was caused to exist the way it does, evolution (whatever it is) has been pre-programmed to exist like it does. So, what's the big deal about evolution? Here is the big deal.

Whoever or Whatever programmed evolution to exist like it does, did a marvelous job of programming way back when. We can't come close to programming our computers so that thousands of years later they will still be running according to the programming.

Whatever evolution is, it's great programming. But there isn't any real random in it at all. The law of cause and effect eliminates the possibility of random.

Btw, I might get around to watching your video later.

Smiley

EDIT; With regard to your video, consider the part about 35 through 45 seconds into this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc11mJGre10.
hero member
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March 02, 2016, 01:21:19 PM
New video posted today, just for BADecker...

AronRa - Evolution is absolutely a Fact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS62TkYOVGQ
legendary
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Merit: 1385
March 02, 2016, 01:52:58 AM
The Complexity of Birth and Life

Life continues to be one of the greatest miracles. It’s hard to deny God’s reality when you think about the process of birth – that two beings can come together and create life, a process that is complex from the moment of conception. While there are over seven billion people living in this world, no person has the same finger print. While identical twins share the same genetic components, they are unique individuals. How can their not be a unique designer?

How much do you know about genetics, random mutations, and survival of the fittest?

Random doesn't exist. Random mutations are nature's way of attempting to overcome imperfection.

Genetics are the extremely complex code of life.

Survival of the fittest is terrorism.

Cool
hero member
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March 01, 2016, 06:19:22 PM
The Complexity of Birth and Life

Life continues to be one of the greatest miracles. It’s hard to deny God’s reality when you think about the process of birth – that two beings can come together and create life, a process that is complex from the moment of conception. While there are over seven billion people living in this world, no person has the same finger print. While identical twins share the same genetic components, they are unique individuals. How can their not be a unique designer?

How much do you know about genetics, random mutations, and survival of the fittest?
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Bobby Fischer was right
March 01, 2016, 03:13:36 PM
The Complexity of Birth and Life

Life continues to be one of the greatest miracles. It’s hard to deny God’s reality when you think about the process of birth – that two beings can come together and create life, a process that is complex from the moment of conception. While there are over seven billion people living in this world, no person has the same finger print. While identical twins share the same genetic components, they are unique individuals. How can their not be a unique designer?
legendary
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Merit: 1385
March 01, 2016, 02:47:21 PM

I don't need any help from any imaginary friends.  I'm doing ok without them.

If he shows up, I'll punch his lights out for all the misery, murder and pedophilia he had caused.

Good. Nobody needs or gets any help from any imaginary friends.

The only place your imaginary friends will show up, is in your mind. Do you really think that you are mentally strong enough to punch their lights out for any reason whatever? If you are strong enough mentally, all you will succeed doing is knocking yourself out.

Cool
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March 01, 2016, 02:41:16 PM

At least you are honest.

Remember my words at your deathbed, thank you.

Creature created to be dependent on his Creator convincing self that he/she can be Independent(of the Creator)? 

According to logic, now how is that not madness?
hero member
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March 01, 2016, 01:20:16 PM

Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete. And why are you afraid of "my scam"-by your definition, if atheism is accurate and correct.

I see you like watching youtube videos, so here is a link specially for you:

Is Religion Intellectually Dangerous? Featuring Dr. John Lennox at the University of Toronto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhrxwb2bfSg


Religion is scam, you are supporter of this scam.

Religion has absolutely nothing to do with science.  

John Lennox got his ass handed to him by Lawrence Krauss.  The guy makes a bunch of assumptions based on his religious beliefs.
He sounds like BADecker.  He is not a scientist.  More like a philosopher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKt2NPbTHM0



BTW dr.Lennox won this debate, but never mind. Let's continue.

There are many attributes atheists are lacking, not only believing in God or gods.

just to mention few:
-clear thinking
-common sense
-backbone
-atheists are walking in the mist and living in dreamworld.

Good news is that they could learn from Christopher Hitchens how to get some backbone first. Here are two good examples:

Christopher Hitchens Admits defeat and audience agrees Hitchens lost debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB6BTb8Dinw

Christopher Hitchens drops bombshell in a debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qab2PgpsIvU

And here you can learn a common sense:
Why the New Atheists are Missing the Target? - John Lennox 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktwzyUa-g1w


EDIT:
I'm not representing any kind of religion, I'm true witness that Jesus is the living Son of God, the LORD and KING, creator of ALL things and is coming back to establish his Kingdom of righteousness he will rule and there will be no place for atheism. If you accept him as your Lord and savior, you will be living with him in his Kingdom. Otherwise you are on your own.






  
legendary
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March 01, 2016, 11:14:45 AM
I believe so that true God exists, this is even according to the bible. people may seem not to believe I have the same experience before wherein I have lost all my faith even to the point I requested him to take me. And yet during that time, He lifted me through my family and made me realize I am not alone. Until then I am always grateful that he made stronger, better person this is to stand out for my family..

Praise God!    Smiley

and take your medication!

My medication is this, to do the will of the One Who sent me.    Cool

It does not look like it is working.  I'd check with another doctor to make sure you are on the right path to recovery.
Your writing skills are degrading with every post.

Double the dose.


You're just jealous.  Cheesy Grin Cheesy

Cool
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March 01, 2016, 11:14:11 AM
Are contingent things the only things that require explanation? As in - is there a hidden "only" in front of point 1?
Or, to put it another way, do non-contingent things require explanation? Can non-contingent things even 'have' an explanation?
Because, it seems as if you're merely arguing by definition - or circularly, 'it is because it is.'
legendary
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March 01, 2016, 10:39:41 AM
I believe so that true God exists, this is even according to the bible. people may seem not to believe I have the same experience before wherein I have lost all my faith even to the point I requested him to take me. And yet during that time, He lifted me through my family and made me realize I am not alone. Until then I am always grateful that he made stronger, better person this is to stand out for my family..

Praise God!    Smiley

and take your medication!

My medication is this, to do the will of the One Who sent me.    Cool
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