Topic: Proof that God exists - page 23. (Read 62389 times)

Which god?  But even ignoring that fact.

The evidence for non-existence is circumstantial as there is no physical evidence of his/her/it existence.  But here is the circumstantial evidence:

- no physical evidence
- 'God' of different cultures, 'revealed' himself/herself/itself at various periods in distant past to a few individuals spoke fluent English, Arabic, Aramaic or Hebrew.  The wisdom he provided does not meet the very basic standard of human morality or social justice of today.  If he wanted to guide men and women, he would interact with the physical realm, update his/her holy books etc.
- this imaginary god supposedly created world with all the universes about 13.8 billion of years ago.  Then waited about 9 billion years to create Earth in this particular universe, and another 4.5 billion to create humans in his own image.  His works ethic are, well, questionable.  Why the wait?
- why did he created imperfect human body: why we have jaw that does not fit all the teeth, our immune system is in constant war with viruses and bacteria?  He is either lazy or is constantly fighting diseases himself, viruses/bacteria which he himself created?  I hope he has a good health plan.

Now more specific points about Christianity:
- Jesus of Nazareth is a myth.  Many historians already debunked this myth.  youtube Richard Carrier  
- nobody demonstrated virgin birth since 'birth of Christ', physically impossible to conceive without human sperm penetrating egg wall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcDhf2was8w  But people who wrote the story did not know that.
- why would god want to be killed to forgive human sins, he could have just forgive them and be done with it. Again, the novelist who wrote the story did not think this through.  
- why he wants to torture people who use their brain he/she himself/herself gave them in the first place.  He behaves very ungodly, very human like.  Perhaps because he is an imaginary construct devised by the 1st century publicist.
- water cannot be turned into wine, the cracker you eat during mass does not turn into flesh of Christ, nobody can walk on water.  All these claims are false, so the whole premise is false.

And Islam:
- horses don't fly, never did, never will
- morality provided by this god is on par with Christian or Jewish god, from which the myth has been derived
- raping young children, killing apostates, or gay people is immoral.  Only genocidal maniac would recommend such 'solutions'.  Maybe because Quran was written by such people.

and not to forget Jewish god:
- 40 years in the dessert, parting sea waters and manna from heaven sounds as ridiculous as tooth fairies, or flat Earth.
- 600+ some 'laws'.  Why so many? He was lazy enough with creation job, but very diligent in describing who you can beat to death, who you can rape, or kill.  Who you can have sex with, who you cannot.  BTW, if he was against gays why did he create lambs?  15-20% of lambs are gay.
All their laws are ridiculous by today's standards.

Should I go on with Mormonism?  Or you have get the picture...

Listen, they are scamming people out of their money.  Promising them something that does not exist.
The best scammers believe in their scam.

Take a look at my other thread were I posted links to show how they scam people.  Documentaries were done
by major news networks.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1367070

Despite the fact it is an obvious scam, people still fall for it.  Just like Nigerian scam, only institutionalized and legal.


 

No deception. I asked a question. You attacked. It's just what you do. And you're attacking because you have, well, nothing.

Wow you're a bit harsh dude ^^

Religion is not exactly a scam, it's more like  a strange bet without any proof.
But calling every religious scammer is a bit extreme xD

Maybe he was a scammer. But you show by your posts that you are nothing less than a deceptive, lying troll.

Religion is scam, you are supporter of this scam.

Religion has absolutely nothing to do with science. 

John Lennox got his ass handed to him by Lawrence Krauss.  The guy makes a bunch of assumptions based on his religious beliefs.
He sounds like BADecker.  He is not a scientist.  More like a philosopher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKt2NPbTHM0

Obsolete? So you admit that you were previously a scammer?

Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete.

can you see the air you breath? no. can you feel it? do you believe its there?  yes. SPAM
thats it. similar thing is with god..SPAM i am not justifyimg a sinle religions god, because I don't want a single religion to be targeted...
SPAM

Religion is scam, you are supporter of this scam.

Religion has absolutely nothing to do with science. 

John Lennox got his ass handed to him by Lawrence Krauss.  The guy makes a bunch of assumptions based on his religious beliefs.
He sounds like BADecker.  He is not a scientist.  More like a philosopher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKt2NPbTHM0

Whatever it is, it certainly sin't logic.

What are these LOGS you speak of?

Thank you, I'm aware of what atheism is.
Problem is when nothing is done to prevent that lacking. If my car lacks fuel i will refuel it. If i don't do that, car will become useless. The same is with atheism. You need to refuel your lack with LOGOS.  Ignorance of LOGOS is darkness. Comprehension of LOGOS is light.

Become enlightened, it will be for your profit, not mine, but I will speak to anyone who will listen and if you do not want to you need not to reply, thanks.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

Atheism has no power to do that for you.

Problem is when nothing is done to prevent that lacking. If my car lacks fuel i will refuel it. If i don't do that, car will become useless. The same is with atheism. You need to refuel your lack with LOGOS.  Ignorance of LOGOS is darkness. Comprehension of LOGOS is light.

Yes, exactly that. Faith is the portal to enter the matrix of God. Without faith forget it. No evidence will be no good for you.

The real question here is not in providing the proof, it is the condition of a heart. Do you want to hear words to fit your agenda, or ultimate logic?

Atheists are walking, living contradictions. All the time they will appeal to logic and on the same side they will deny the ULTIMATE one, LOGOS. This is simple called madness or insanity if you like.

A simple equation: You and I are a creature, so we have been created, thus we have a Creator. So even you atheists, the Creator deniers are proof that Creator exist.   

What proof do you want from a spritual God?  For example, I'm living proof. Yes, you don't know me, so you will have to do your own research as i did. Seek and you will find. The comprehension of Truth is even closer than your own breath.

Also atheists have very bad memory, so in time to time refreshing is needed. Refreshing the memory of top1 atheist 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbNpi2d5oEs

enjoy video

That is some twisted logic.  The guy is basically saying if the world follows the laws of nature you have no reason to think about laws of nature.

He is an imbecile.  We use our brains to learn more about nature, how it works and why?  If you stop thinking and accept spoon fed religious bronze age nonsense you become an intellectual zombie.  Unable to think critically.

Science (and by extension, Atheism) will be more widely accepted because it represents progress,  whether you like it or not.  Pray to God all you want, nothing will change the fact that evolution cannot be stopped.

Your religious dogma is ridiculous, once people realize they have been fleeced, game is over for you crooks.

I'm not a sheep to need to follow anyone. I learn and do my own thing. No need to be a follower. You can live without.