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Bobby Fischer was right
March 01, 2016, 03:13:36 PM
The Complexity of Birth and Life

Life continues to be one of the greatest miracles. It’s hard to deny God’s reality when you think about the process of birth – that two beings can come together and create life, a process that is complex from the moment of conception. While there are over seven billion people living in this world, no person has the same finger print. While identical twins share the same genetic components, they are unique individuals. How can their not be a unique designer?
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February 27, 2016, 11:08:59 PM
legendary
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March 01, 2016, 02:47:21 PM

I don't need any help from any imaginary friends.  I'm doing ok without them.

If he shows up, I'll punch his lights out for all the misery, murder and pedophilia he had caused.

Good. Nobody needs or gets any help from any imaginary friends.

The only place your imaginary friends will show up, is in your mind. Do you really think that you are mentally strong enough to punch their lights out for any reason whatever? If you are strong enough mentally, all you will succeed doing is knocking yourself out.

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March 01, 2016, 02:41:16 PM

At least you are honest.

Remember my words at your deathbed, thank you.

Creature created to be dependent on his Creator convincing self that he/she can be Independent(of the Creator)? 

According to logic, now how is that not madness?
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March 01, 2016, 01:20:16 PM

Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete. And why are you afraid of "my scam"-by your definition, if atheism is accurate and correct.

I see you like watching youtube videos, so here is a link specially for you:

Is Religion Intellectually Dangerous? Featuring Dr. John Lennox at the University of Toronto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhrxwb2bfSg


Religion is scam, you are supporter of this scam.

Religion has absolutely nothing to do with science.  

John Lennox got his ass handed to him by Lawrence Krauss.  The guy makes a bunch of assumptions based on his religious beliefs.
He sounds like BADecker.  He is not a scientist.  More like a philosopher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKt2NPbTHM0



BTW dr.Lennox won this debate, but never mind. Let's continue.

There are many attributes atheists are lacking, not only believing in God or gods.

just to mention few:
-clear thinking
-common sense
-backbone
-atheists are walking in the mist and living in dreamworld.

Good news is that they could learn from Christopher Hitchens how to get some backbone first. Here are two good examples:

Christopher Hitchens Admits defeat and audience agrees Hitchens lost debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB6BTb8Dinw

Christopher Hitchens drops bombshell in a debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qab2PgpsIvU

And here you can learn a common sense:
Why the New Atheists are Missing the Target? - John Lennox 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktwzyUa-g1w


EDIT:
I'm not representing any kind of religion, I'm true witness that Jesus is the living Son of God, the LORD and KING, creator of ALL things and is coming back to establish his Kingdom of righteousness he will rule and there will be no place for atheism. If you accept him as your Lord and savior, you will be living with him in his Kingdom. Otherwise you are on your own.






  
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February 27, 2016, 09:47:33 PM
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March 01, 2016, 11:14:45 AM
I believe so that true God exists, this is even according to the bible. people may seem not to believe I have the same experience before wherein I have lost all my faith even to the point I requested him to take me. And yet during that time, He lifted me through my family and made me realize I am not alone. Until then I am always grateful that he made stronger, better person this is to stand out for my family..

Praise God!    Smiley

and take your medication!

My medication is this, to do the will of the One Who sent me.    Cool

It does not look like it is working.  I'd check with another doctor to make sure you are on the right path to recovery.
Your writing skills are degrading with every post.

Double the dose.


You're just jealous.  Cheesy Grin Cheesy

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March 01, 2016, 11:14:11 AM
Are contingent things the only things that require explanation? As in - is there a hidden "only" in front of point 1?
Or, to put it another way, do non-contingent things require explanation? Can non-contingent things even 'have' an explanation?
Because, it seems as if you're merely arguing by definition - or circularly, 'it is because it is.'
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March 01, 2016, 11:01:54 AM
I believe so that true God exists, this is even according to the bible. people may seem not to believe I have the same experience before wherein I have lost all my faith even to the point I requested him to take me. And yet during that time, He lifted me through my family and made me realize I am not alone. Until then I am always grateful that he made stronger, better person this is to stand out for my family..

Praise God!    Smiley

and take your medication!

My medication is this, to do the will of the One Who sent me.    Cool

It does not look like it is working.  I'd check with another doctor to make sure you are on the right path to recovery.
Your writing skills are degrading with every post.

Double the dose.
legendary
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March 01, 2016, 10:39:41 AM
I believe so that true God exists, this is even according to the bible. people may seem not to believe I have the same experience before wherein I have lost all my faith even to the point I requested him to take me. And yet during that time, He lifted me through my family and made me realize I am not alone. Until then I am always grateful that he made stronger, better person this is to stand out for my family..

Praise God!    Smiley

and take your medication!

My medication is this, to do the will of the One Who sent me.    Cool
legendary
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March 01, 2016, 09:26:39 AM
After long and secular debates about atheism, the need for a separate topic about God's existence has arisen.
There are amongst us a group of people who believe that while there is no proof that God exists, there also is no proof that He doesn't exist.
Please share your argument in a logical manner and abstain from saying things like "I'm right because I'm right".
I know that this, in the end, is a philosophical discussion so only logical are welcome.
the only way to answer his question is ask your grandfather and your grandmother,yes because the only proof that god exist is his creature is exist,our great-grandfather also believe that. god create all this world and it content.
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March 01, 2016, 04:02:42 AM
I believe so that true God exists, this is even according to the bible. people may seem not to believe I have the same experience before wherein I have lost all my faith even to the point I requested him to take me. And yet during that time, He lifted me through my family and made me realize I am not alone. Until then I am always grateful that he made stronger, better person this is to stand out for my family..

Praise God!    Smiley
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March 01, 2016, 03:48:43 AM
I believe so that true God exists, this is even according to the bible. people may seem not to believe I have the same experience before wherein I have lost all my faith even to the point I requested him to take me. And yet during that time, He lifted me through my family and made me realize I am not alone. Until then I am always grateful that he made stronger, better person this is to stand out for my family..
legendary
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March 01, 2016, 03:36:36 AM
Every one has their own religion and god...
Debating on weather one god exist is going to be long debate...
None will accept ones argument over his/her god...

This is or might be true. The thing about atheists is, that they don't recognize that they are setting themselves up as gods, especially when they emphatically state that God does not exist. Why? Because nobody has proven that God does not exist, yet they want to believe it.

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March 01, 2016, 03:33:41 AM
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First you have to prove that everything is pre-programmed to exist.




Why should I prove it? Science already did that. Notice Newton's 3rd Law that is referred to in my post that you quoted. Since science proved God and pre-programming through cause and effect, you need to prove the science wrong to even start to prove that God doesn't exist.

Cool

You are making the claim that everything is pre-programmed to exist.  Now you say science already proven it? Which issue of Scientific American issue presents that proof? And who won a Nobel Price for such a proof? Wink

You are just making assumptions, making claims without any proof whatsoever.


Not everything in the universe is reported on in Scientific American. And not every person who proves something wins the Nobel Prize.

I understand you. You realize that God is proven to exist, for some reason you don't like the truth, and so you are doing and saying whatever you can to cover up the fact that God exists, even if you make yourself look utterly stupid in the process.

Cool

Typical for religious nuts. A man says no and you understand yes. WTF is wrong with you? And calling people stupid because you don't like their answers. Not cool bub.

What are YOU yammering about. Some people say "yes" and some people say "no" and some people say both. What does that have to do with anything?

What is wrong with YOU? You can't even explain what you are talking about.

Can't help it if I am an agreeable sort of chap, and simply repeat in simpler form what he has already said about himself.

Cool

EDIT: Btw, you atheism religion religious nuts!

Come on, man. Learn how to express yourself in a proper manner. Or is that the simpler form?

Come on man, if you have something to say, learn how to express it at all, so that somebody might be able to figure out what you mean. Otherwise it is simply a bunch of meaningless rhetoric.

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legendary
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February 27, 2016, 01:37:21 PM
According to Jesus, not eveyone gets in the grace of God,
Mark 3:29
"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation"

Can someone explain this bit? The blasphemer "hath never forgiveness" but he is only "in danger of eternal damnation".

If you're never forgiven, how can you not be eternally damned? If you're only "in danger of eternal damnation", then what can you do to get to heaven without being forgiven?


Heres more,

Matthew 12:32
"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Luke 12:10
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

I still don't follow you can never be forgiven but at the same time only possibly be eternally damned? Being in danger of being hit by a bus is not the same as being hit by a bus.
The first quote was written by Mark, who has a different writing style than Luke or Matthew. Being in danger doesnt necessarily mean there's a way to avoid said danger,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/danger
"Danger is the general word for liability to all kinds of injury or evil consequences, either near at hand and certain, or remote and doubtful"

Thanks, I didn't know that meaning of "danger".  I'd always just thought it meant "possible negative consequence".


Religious people redefine laws of physics, vocabulary and logic in order to make sense of the Bible  Wink
Whatever it takes to hide the truth.

The real definition is here.  No mention of evil  Wink

dan·ger
ˈdānjər/
noun
noun: danger

    the possibility of suffering harm or injury.
    "his life was in danger"
    synonyms:   peril, hazard, risk, jeopardy; More
    riskiness, precariousness, uncertainty, instability, insecurity
    "an element of danger"
    antonyms:   safety
        a person or thing that is likely to cause harm or injury.
        plural noun: dangers
        "infertile soils where drought is a danger"
        synonyms:   menace, hazard, threat, risk; More
        informal death trap, widow-maker
        "that car is a danger on the roads"
        the possibility of something unwelcome or unpleasant.
        "there was no danger of the champagne running out"
        synonyms:   possibility, chance, risk, probability, likelihood, fear, prospect
        "a serious danger of fire"

Source:
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/danger
https://www.google.ca/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=D-rRVqDcLcGC8Qe8173wDA#q=danger+definition


PS. that dictionary.reference.com site is for religious Lingua franca.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_franca

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March 01, 2016, 03:05:18 AM
Every one has their own religion and god...
Debating on weather one god exist is going to be long debate...
None will accept ones argument over his/her god...
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March 01, 2016, 02:55:56 AM
....

First you have to prove that everything is pre-programmed to exist.




Why should I prove it? Science already did that. Notice Newton's 3rd Law that is referred to in my post that you quoted. Since science proved God and pre-programming through cause and effect, you need to prove the science wrong to even start to prove that God doesn't exist.

Cool

You are making the claim that everything is pre-programmed to exist.  Now you say science already proven it? Which issue of Scientific American issue presents that proof? And who won a Nobel Price for such a proof? Wink

You are just making assumptions, making claims without any proof whatsoever.


Not everything in the universe is reported on in Scientific American. And not every person who proves something wins the Nobel Prize.

I understand you. You realize that God is proven to exist, for some reason you don't like the truth, and so you are doing and saying whatever you can to cover up the fact that God exists, even if you make yourself look utterly stupid in the process.

Cool

Typical for religious nuts. A man says no and you understand yes. WTF is wrong with you? And calling people stupid because you don't like their answers. Not cool bub.

What are YOU yammering about. Some people say "yes" and some people say "no" and some people say both. What does that have to do with anything?

What is wrong with YOU? You can't even explain what you are talking about.

Can't help it if I am an agreeable sort of chap, and simply repeat in simpler form what he has already said about himself.

Cool

EDIT: Btw, you atheism religion religious nuts!

Come on, man. Learn how to express yourself in a proper manner. Or is that the simpler form?
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March 01, 2016, 02:37:20 AM
....

First you have to prove that everything is pre-programmed to exist.




Why should I prove it? Science already did that. Notice Newton's 3rd Law that is referred to in my post that you quoted. Since science proved God and pre-programming through cause and effect, you need to prove the science wrong to even start to prove that God doesn't exist.

Cool

You are making the claim that everything is pre-programmed to exist.  Now you say science already proven it? Which issue of Scientific American issue presents that proof? And who won a Nobel Price for such a proof? Wink

You are just making assumptions, making claims without any proof whatsoever.


Not everything in the universe is reported on in Scientific American. And not every person who proves something wins the Nobel Prize.

I understand you. You realize that God is proven to exist, for some reason you don't like the truth, and so you are doing and saying whatever you can to cover up the fact that God exists, even if you make yourself look utterly stupid in the process.

Cool

Typical for religious nuts. A man says no and you understand yes. WTF is wrong with you? And calling people stupid because you don't like their answers. Not cool bub.

Religious people have this rapist mentality.  You tell them "no means no" but they hear "yes".

They think that all Atheists are really Christians they just don't know it yet.

Their delusions go well beyond the bronze age nonsense, affecting their lives and people around them.

You don't know what you are. first you say "no." Then you say "yes."

Nothing has changed, except that people have devolved somewhat from the times of the bronze age.

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March 01, 2016, 02:33:28 AM
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First you have to prove that everything is pre-programmed to exist.




Why should I prove it? Science already did that. Notice Newton's 3rd Law that is referred to in my post that you quoted. Since science proved God and pre-programming through cause and effect, you need to prove the science wrong to even start to prove that God doesn't exist.

Cool

You are making the claim that everything is pre-programmed to exist.  Now you say science already proven it? Which issue of Scientific American issue presents that proof? And who won a Nobel Price for such a proof? Wink

You are just making assumptions, making claims without any proof whatsoever.


Not everything in the universe is reported on in Scientific American. And not every person who proves something wins the Nobel Prize.

I understand you. You realize that God is proven to exist, for some reason you don't like the truth, and so you are doing and saying whatever you can to cover up the fact that God exists, even if you make yourself look utterly stupid in the process.

Cool

Typical for religious nuts. A man says no and you understand yes. WTF is wrong with you? And calling people stupid because you don't like their answers. Not cool bub.

What are YOU yammering about. Some people say "yes" and some people say "no" and some people say both. What does that have to do with anything?

What is wrong with YOU? You can't even explain what you are talking about.

Can't help it if I am an agreeable sort of chap, and simply repeat in simpler form what he has already said about himself.

Cool

EDIT: Btw, you atheism religion religious nuts!
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