The fact that I don't know everything about entropy doesn't have anything to do with it. Why not? Because nobody but nobody knows everything about entropy. The things that we DO know about entropy show that nothing that is complex comes from something less complex without the help of something that is more complex than both.
BADecker, we had this discussion before and I explained in detail why entropy is not the same as complexity, and why what you just wrote is wrong.
Should we have that discussion again, or just link to the relevant thread?
You are so silly. For example, if I point out the sky to you, and then explain that the sky is blue, this doesn't mean that I am the sky, right? In a similar way entropy expresses basics about complexity. But that doesn't mean that entropy is complexity, right?
But go ahead. Knock yourself out (Sean Connery said that in "Medicine Man"... the Knock yourself out, part). Explain some more that entropy isn't complexity if you like.
Your statement: "nothing that is complex comes from something less complex without the help of something that is more complex" is false.
Do you have an example of things as you say? After all, you can see cause and effect all over the place. Certainly there is complexity all around us. Everything wears out and disperses and dissipates as entropy predicts.
Takes two people to make a child - greater complexity making lesser complexity. People make cars - greater complexity making lesser complexity. What is your example regarding the reverse, lesser complexity making greater complexity?
How are you measuring the complexity of a child vis a vis the complexity of an adult? How about parents having octuplets -- surely eight babies in one birth are more complex than two adults?
The complexity of conception is greater the child. Why? Because no child comes about without it. Even if we can create a child in the lab and test tube without standard conception, no conception happens without the complexity of the things that cause it to happen.
Cause and effect stand. No cause to make conception happen, no child.
Conception is more complex than the child, because without its complexity, no child would happen.
This is a circular argument. You are in effect saying that the complexity of conception is greater than the complexity of a child because it would only happen if the one was more complex than the other.
Copper sulphate solution precipitates copper sulphate crystals. Which is more complex?
Wood burns to create smoke. Which is more complex?
