Topic: Publicly held Trump trials - ongoing - page 3. (Read 4800 times)
^^^ Never in the history of the US has a former president been persecuted to keep him out of office like Trump has. Even IF Trump did something wrong like you suggest, it almost is nothing when compared with what the current regime is doing to him. Your support is entirely misplaced.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/27/rightwing-conservative-news-hush-money-trial-trump
And this sums it up. Trump is a victim if convicted, and rightfully acquitted if found innocent for the right wing media. I am thinking how did the US got to this point in which anything and everything does not matter for a large mass of Trumps electors. Being found gilty in several cases would have been disqualifying in any time in the past. Harassing the families of judges or witnesses would have never been accepted.
This is the sign of something worse than Trump - he is just a mere anecdote.
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‘Heads, we win; tails, you lose’: how right-wing hush-money trial coverage boosts Trump
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Conservative media like Fox News, Newsmax and One America News Network are “running a sort of ‘heads, we win; tails, you lose’ play”, said Matt Gertz, a senior fellow at Media Matters for America, a leftwing advocacy group. They are portraying the trial as a “witch-hunt ginned up by Joe Biden, and obviously because of that”, they say “he will be found not guilty, but at the same time, they are arguing that if he is found guilty, it will be because the jury and the judge are partisan and corrupt”.
And this sums it up. Trump is a victim if convicted, and rightfully acquitted if found innocent for the right wing media. I am thinking how did the US got to this point in which anything and everything does not matter for a large mass of Trumps electors. Being found gilty in several cases would have been disqualifying in any time in the past. Harassing the families of judges or witnesses would have never been accepted.
This is the sign of something worse than Trump - he is just a mere anecdote.
It's like they're campaigning specifically to BADecker. Mind bogglingly dumb liars.
I am convinced now that dumBAss is a Chinese agent pretending to be from Texas.
I always imagine him wishing he could be a Russian agent from his mothers house in one of those areas in the south where they eat squirrels and drink moonshine that was made in a neighbors bathtub.
Just to show you who is winning, where is the war being fought? Mother Russia isn't being threatened at all. It's the Ukraine that is in turmoil.
Well, it is easy to become a Ruzzian citizen - at least for a while. You just have to enlist in the Ruzzian
It's like they're campaigning specifically to BADecker. Mind bogglingly dumb liars.
I am convinced now that dumBAss is a Chinese agent pretending to be from Texas.
I always imagine him wishing he could be a Russian agent from his mothers house in one of those areas in the south where they eat squirrels and drink moonshine that was made in a neighbors bathtub.
Just to show you who is winning, where is the war being fought? Mother Russia isn't being threatened at all. It's the Ukraine that is in turmoil.
It's like they're campaigning specifically to BADecker. Mind bogglingly dumb liars.
I am convinced now that dumBAss is a Chinese agent pretending to be from Texas.
It's like they're campaigning specifically to BADecker. Mind bogglingly dumb liars.
I think it is their own lawyers that are scared of what Trump may say, and it is with a good reason because in a trial you will be examined quite thoroughly and any and all statements will be scrutinised and thoroughly debunked. In other words, all the disinformation techniques and the Xtwitting of insults do not work in court.
It is clear that he would need to perjure and knows he may be caught doing so. Better to grunt and Xtweet where nobody is going to thoroughly destroy his lies and where there is no accountability for your acts.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-69046433
And now Trump acolytes want to win in the court what Trump could not win in the bedroom...
It is clear that he would need to perjure and knows he may be caught doing so. Better to grunt and Xtweet where nobody is going to thoroughly destroy his lies and where there is no accountability for your acts.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-69046433
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Trump trial: Former president doesn't testify as defence rests
Testifying under oath would have opened Mr Trump up to aggressive questioning from prosecutors, as well as other elements of his background including unfavourable verdicts in his recent civil trials.
Mr Trump faces 34 felony charges of falsifying business records, to which he has pleaded not guilty. Prosecutors say that he falsified records of reimbursements to his personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, who had paid $130,000 (£102,000) in hush money to an adult film star before the 2016 election. They allege that he did so to commit or conceal a second crime.
Before resting their case, his lawyers called just two witnesses, following a parade of 20 witnesses for the prosecution.
Justice Juan Merchan dismissed the jury mid-morning, telling them to return on Tuesday for closing statements from both prosecutors and Mr Trump's lawyers.
Testifying under oath would have opened Mr Trump up to aggressive questioning from prosecutors, as well as other elements of his background including unfavourable verdicts in his recent civil trials.
Mr Trump faces 34 felony charges of falsifying business records, to which he has pleaded not guilty. Prosecutors say that he falsified records of reimbursements to his personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, who had paid $130,000 (£102,000) in hush money to an adult film star before the 2016 election. They allege that he did so to commit or conceal a second crime.
Before resting their case, his lawyers called just two witnesses, following a parade of 20 witnesses for the prosecution.
Justice Juan Merchan dismissed the jury mid-morning, telling them to return on Tuesday for closing statements from both prosecutors and Mr Trump's lawyers.
And now Trump acolytes want to win in the court what Trump could not win in the bedroom...
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devoting the afternoon to a highly technical but crucial hearing to determine how he will instruct the jury before they are sent to deliberate.
Both sides made suggestions on how the judge will tell the jury to apply the law and use the evidence in this case.
Both sides made suggestions on how the judge will tell the jury to apply the law and use the evidence in this case.
You jokers still don't get it, do you.
Hey remember the discussion was about the evidence in Trumps criminal trial.
First you acted as if you were very following the details of the trial very closely.
That's the point. You are not following it. Did you read the transcripts that I posted?
You jokers still don't get it, do you.
And went on to make a bunch of claims like this:
Just to show that you haven't been following it, the paper trail was simply standard, general payments made to the attorney firm by Trump. If the attorney firm did something bad with the funds, that's their problem, not Trumps.
Cohen might have used the loan funds for anything.
My question is this: What made you claim those things? Did you make them up, or are you repeating what you heard somewhere else?
If you didn't make them up yourself, will you consider thinking twice before repeating whatever the source says in the future?
If you did make them up, shame on you.
You jokers still don't get it, do you. Even if money went to Stormy, this doesn't necessarily mean that it was hush money for a Trump affair with her... or anything of the sort. It might simply have been a request for her to NOT do the thing that she is doing. Or he might be covering for someone else. Or maybe it was payment for a job that she did for Trump a different way.
Money switches hands all the time. Until it is proven that it was to pay her off for an affair, we simply don't know what it was for.
Remember, in the past she said that she did NOT have an affair with Trump. You can't trust what she is saying.
All you jokers are really trying to do is keep a murdering presidential team in office. I don't know why you would do that, but it sure looks like you enjoy warmonger worldwide killing, and wrecking the US economy at the same time... something that Trump did just the opposite of while in office.
Can you begin to provide justification for your actions? You should be supporting Trump to bring about world peace, because as it stands, now, he's the only one who can.
Money switches hands all the time. Until it is proven that it was to pay her off for an affair, we simply don't know what it was for.
Remember, in the past she said that she did NOT have an affair with Trump. You can't trust what she is saying.
All you jokers are really trying to do is keep a murdering presidential team in office. I don't know why you would do that, but it sure looks like you enjoy warmonger worldwide killing, and wrecking the US economy at the same time... something that Trump did just the opposite of while in office.
Can you begin to provide justification for your actions? You should be supporting Trump to bring about world peace, because as it stands, now, he's the only one who can.
Cool story. But not a good excuse to make things up to defend him like this one example of mannny:
Cohen might have used the loan funds for anything.
When it comes down to it, "I like Trump/I hate Biden" iis really at the heart of any Trumptards argument about why Trump, the billionaire scam artist that inherited a bunch of money and his business and then proceeded to fuck over pretty much everyone he came in contact with for the next 50 years, is now the victim because it looks like he might only get away with most of the crimes, not all.
But at YOUR heart is "I hate Trump, and I just don't give a rip about America, murdering armies, war, and a bunch of other stuff."
Why to love Trump? World peace, and MAGA.
Did Trump hurt you so badly? Poor baby. You really need to see a psychiatrist. Since Trump is MAGA and world peace, you must have an awful burden carrying such a load of hate that makes you want to see the USA destroyed, and loads of people killed around he world, just because Trump played with some money just like loads of other people do.
Low factuality (none actually), same repeated slogans, ad-hominem attacks, loaded assertions, trying to pass as plausible alternative facts while questioning proven facts, fake after fake to the point that it would take a lifetime to debunk, half-truths that end in dishonest interpretations... This is the manual of disinformation of all the populists leaders in the world in just two paragraphs
People are tired of this type of crap dumBAss, the troll tricks are getting old and you ain't got nutting else. It is simply being overused from China to Ruzzia to Trump to ... you name them. We all know who they are and we all know how they play it.
Facts: Checks signed, paid to Cohen, sent to Stormy, recorded as "campaign expenses". Next case.
You jokers still don't get it, do you. Even if money went to Stormy, this doesn't necessarily mean that it was hush money for a Trump affair with her... or anything of the sort. It might simply have been a request for her to NOT do the thing that she is doing. Or he might be covering for someone else. Or maybe it was payment for a job that she did for Trump a different way.
Money switches hands all the time. Until it is proven that it was to pay her off for an affair, we simply don't know what it was for.
Remember, in the past she said that she did NOT have an affair with Trump. You can't trust what she is saying.
All you jokers are really trying to do is keep a murdering presidential team in office. I don't know why you would do that, but it sure looks like you enjoy warmonger worldwide killing, and wrecking the US economy at the same time... something that Trump did just the opposite of while in office.
Can you begin to provide justification for your actions? You should be supporting Trump to bring about world peace, because as it stands, now, he's the only one who can.
Money switches hands all the time. Until it is proven that it was to pay her off for an affair, we simply don't know what it was for.
Remember, in the past she said that she did NOT have an affair with Trump. You can't trust what she is saying.
All you jokers are really trying to do is keep a murdering presidential team in office. I don't know why you would do that, but it sure looks like you enjoy warmonger worldwide killing, and wrecking the US economy at the same time... something that Trump did just the opposite of while in office.
Can you begin to provide justification for your actions? You should be supporting Trump to bring about world peace, because as it stands, now, he's the only one who can.
Cool story. But not a good excuse to make things up to defend him like this one example of mannny:
Cohen might have used the loan funds for anything.
When it comes down to it, "I like Trump/I hate Biden" iis really at the heart of any Trumptards argument about why Trump, the billionaire scam artist that inherited a bunch of money and his business and then proceeded to fuck over pretty much everyone he came in contact with for the next 50 years, is now the victim because it looks like he might only get away with most of the crimes, not all.
But at YOUR heart is "I hate Trump, and I just don't give a rip about America, murdering armies, war, and a bunch of other stuff."
Why to love Trump? World peace, and MAGA.
Did Trump hurt you so badly? Poor baby. You really need to see a psychiatrist. Since Trump is MAGA and world peace, you must have an awful burden carrying such a load of hate that makes you want to see the USA destroyed, and loads of people killed around he world, just because Trump played with some money just like loads of other people do.
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Can you begin to provide justification for your actions? You should be supporting Trump to bring about world peace, because as it stands, now, he's the only one who can.
Can you begin to provide justification for your actions? You should be supporting Trump to bring about world peace, because as it stands, now, he's the only one who can.
See? No facts needed.
You jokers still don't get it, do you. Even if money went to Stormy, this doesn't necessarily mean that it was hush money for a Trump affair with her... or anything of the sort. It might simply have been a request for her to NOT do the thing that she is doing. Or he might be covering for someone else. Or maybe it was payment for a job that she did for Trump a different way.
Money switches hands all the time. Until it is proven that it was to pay her off for an affair, we simply don't know what it was for.
Remember, in the past she said that she did NOT have an affair with Trump. You can't trust what she is saying.
All you jokers are really trying to do is keep a murdering presidential team in office. I don't know why you would do that, but it sure looks like you enjoy warmonger worldwide killing, and wrecking the US economy at the same time... something that Trump did just the opposite of while in office.
Can you begin to provide justification for your actions? You should be supporting Trump to bring about world peace, because as it stands, now, he's the only one who can.
Money switches hands all the time. Until it is proven that it was to pay her off for an affair, we simply don't know what it was for.
Remember, in the past she said that she did NOT have an affair with Trump. You can't trust what she is saying.
All you jokers are really trying to do is keep a murdering presidential team in office. I don't know why you would do that, but it sure looks like you enjoy warmonger worldwide killing, and wrecking the US economy at the same time... something that Trump did just the opposite of while in office.
Can you begin to provide justification for your actions? You should be supporting Trump to bring about world peace, because as it stands, now, he's the only one who can.
Cool story. But not a good excuse to make things up to defend him like this one example of mannny:
Cohen might have used the loan funds for anything.
When it comes down to it, "I like Trump/I hate Biden" iis really at the heart of any Trumptards argument about why Trump, the billionaire scam artist that inherited a bunch of money and his business and then proceeded to fuck over pretty much everyone he came in contact with for the next 50 years, is now the victim because it looks like he might only get away with most of the crimes, not all.
You jokers still don't get it, do you. Even if money went to Stormy, this doesn't necessarily mean that it was hush money for a Trump affair with her... or anything of the sort. It might simply have been a request for her to NOT do the thing that she is doing. Or he might be covering for someone else. Or maybe it was payment for a job that she did for Trump a different way.
Money switches hands all the time. Until it is proven that it was to pay her off for an affair, we simply don't know what it was for.
Remember, in the past she said that she did NOT have an affair with Trump. You can't trust what she is saying.
All you jokers are really trying to do is keep a murdering presidential team in office. I don't know why you would do that, but it sure looks like you enjoy warmonger worldwide killing, and wrecking the US economy at the same time... something that Trump did just the opposite of while in office.
Can you begin to provide justification for your actions? You should be supporting Trump to bring about world peace, because as it stands, now, he's the only one who can.
Money switches hands all the time. Until it is proven that it was to pay her off for an affair, we simply don't know what it was for.
Remember, in the past she said that she did NOT have an affair with Trump. You can't trust what she is saying.
All you jokers are really trying to do is keep a murdering presidential team in office. I don't know why you would do that, but it sure looks like you enjoy warmonger worldwide killing, and wrecking the US economy at the same time... something that Trump did just the opposite of while in office.
Can you begin to provide justification for your actions? You should be supporting Trump to bring about world peace, because as it stands, now, he's the only one who can.
You really are clueless about reality. I'm not going to waste my time on refuting every one of your ignorant claims, but I'll explain one example:
Cohen might have used the loan funds for anything.[/b]
The paper trail shows that on October 26, 2016 - minutes after speaking with Trump, Michael Cohen opened a bank account in the name of the LLC he had just created a few days earlier and funded it with a $131,000 using a home equity line of credit on his home. The funds became available that same day at 4 pm.
The next day, October 27, 2016 at 10:01 am, Cohen submitted the paperwork required to wire $130,000 to Keith Davidson and Stormy Daniels attorney-client trust.
You know how to find the transcripts, and I've already given you a link to the documents. If you were interested in the truth, you would have already figured it out.
The people from Texas are not interested in facts. They have the Bible and their local MAGA church, bar & shitholes to get the news.
You really are clueless about reality. I'm not going to waste my time on refuting every one of your ignorant claims, but I'll explain one example:
Cohen might have used the loan funds for anything.[/b]
The paper trail shows that on October 26, 2016 - minutes after speaking with Trump, Michael Cohen opened a bank account in the name of the LLC he had just created a few days earlier and funded it with a $131,000 using a home equity line of credit on his home. The funds became available that same day at 4 pm.
LOAN FUNDS GO DIRECTLY INTO NEW LLC BANK ACCOUNT
The next day, October 27, 2016 at 10:01 am, Cohen submitted the paperwork required to wire $130,000 to Keith Davidson and Stormy Daniels attorney-client trust.
LOAN FUNDS GO DIRECTLY FROM NEW LLC BANK ACCOUNT TO STORMY DANIELS
You know how to find the transcripts, and I've already given you a link to the documents. If you were interested in the truth, you would have already figured it out.
Cohen might have used the loan funds for anything.
^^FALSE
I got the answer to all this. Let's ask "someone" neutral: 
https://www.businessinsider.com/chatgpt-assessed-donald-trump-hush-money-trial-transcript-says-guilty-2024-5
So dumBAss, what is the excuse now? Is artificial intelligence "democrats"
BTW, just hearing "Stormy" was worth the whole trial. Her description of such a disgusting scene of her having dinner with Trump and the guy waiting in his underwear for her to get out of the toilet and having unprotected sex in exchange for favours... it is just as good as this is going to get ever in any upcoming trial. Unless he decides to grab someone else by the pussy again.
https://www.businessinsider.com/chatgpt-assessed-donald-trump-hush-money-trial-transcript-says-guilty-2024-5
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Business Insider has compiled a 4,179-page trial transcript, combining PDFs of official daily transcripts purchased from the New York State Criminal Court's stenographer's office.
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Using that document, we asked various AI chatbots whether they found Trump guilty.
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Using that document, we asked various AI chatbots whether they found Trump guilty.
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"I would vote guilty on the charges of falsifying business records," Perplexity responded definitively. "The prosecution has provided credible and significant evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump engaged in the alleged conduct."
ChatGPT initially hesitated to give a definitive answer, saying its decision "would depend heavily on the credibility of the witnesses and the clarity of the documentary evidence."
But after a follow-up question prompted it to "decide now," OpenAI's bot said its "decision would be to find Trump guilty based on the evidence provided in the transcripts."
ChatGPT initially hesitated to give a definitive answer, saying its decision "would depend heavily on the credibility of the witnesses and the clarity of the documentary evidence."
But after a follow-up question prompted it to "decide now," OpenAI's bot said its "decision would be to find Trump guilty based on the evidence provided in the transcripts."
So dumBAss, what is the excuse now? Is artificial intelligence "democrats"
BTW, just hearing "Stormy" was worth the whole trial. Her description of such a disgusting scene of her having dinner with Trump and the guy waiting in his underwear for her to get out of the toilet and having unprotected sex in exchange for favours... it is just as good as this is going to get ever in any upcoming trial. Unless he decides to grab someone else by the pussy again.
Just to show that you haven't been following it, the paper trail was simply standard, general payments made to the attorney firm by Trump. If the attorney firm did something bad with the funds, that's their problem, not Trumps.
No, it wasn't standard and Cohen didn't even have a firm - these were personal payments to reimburse the loan he took out on his house. Obviously you will never admit you're wrong or believe something that makes your favorite politician look like a criminal but paper trail shows that: - Why should I admit that I am wrong? I don't know that Trump is guilty or that he is innocent... or anything in between. And the things that you show are punctuated by your beliefs, not by the showing of any fact within them.
Michael Cohen took out a loan on his house for $130,000 and created a shell company to pay Stormy Daniels. - Perhaps the paper trail shows what you say. But you don't show it in the things that you show as a paper trail. Cohen might have used the loan funds for anything.
In order to compensate Cohen for the payment, he had to be repaid double so that he could pay taxes as if it were earned income. In addition to the 130k, Trump also owed him $50k for rigging some polls using a company called Red Finch (you were right, some polls are lies). So he was owed ($130k + $50k) X 2 = $360k. $180k to reimburse the payments he made, $180k to pay income tax to make it look like income. He was also paid a $60k "bonus" for his actual work. So the final total was $420k, and they agreed to pay him $35k monthly for 1 year. ($35k * 12 = $420k). - Again, if this has been ascertained by facts that have been proven, without there being any other possible way, okay. But you don't show it.
Here's the Trump org ceo doing the math (he's currently in Rikers island for perjury during Trumps last criminal trial, he also served time for fraud before that - Trump surrounded himself with criminals) - Again, there might be a literal paper trail that shows the things you say, but you haven't shown it. What you have shown could be anything the way you showed it. Trump might have simply been helping a friend out with some of his financial troubles... if indeed any of that was Trump payments. There might even have been something far more nefarious going on, and Stormy Daniels might simply have been the cover that the Trump team allowed to work its way into the courts.
Here's one of the 12 checks Trump signed over the next year to make it look like Cohen was working for him, even though he was not: - Obviously you are mistaken. Payments are made for something. The payment receiver was working for Trump, even if he was simply a delivery boy. Just not in the way that you would consider working for him.
All the holes have been filled in. Trump micromanaged his company, not even the CEO was authorized to make a payment for more than $10k without Trumps blessing. There's no reason to double a reimbursement for taxes, unless you want to make it look like earned income.
Document Dump: https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/rchcAZNAFo_U/v0
There is no reasonable scenario where all this happened without Trumps explicit approval.
Squirm away.
Nothing that you have shown proves Trump to be guilty of anything. I'm not saying that he isn't guilty. But your points are simply speculation as they have been stated. And if the court only has this speculation itself, they may make a judgment based on whatever they would call circumstantial.
The big point is this. While all this piddly little stuff about Trump is going on, the Biden Team is royally screwing the country and the world, including helping to cause the deaths of at least hundreds of thousands in Ukraine and the ME. And all you are doing is helping them.
Regarding the presidency, even if what Trump did in office was bad, it's like a walk on the beach compared with what is going on in the presidency with Biden.
Your ideals? Play with Trump's nothing, and work to let Biden royally screw the country and the world.
Just to show that you haven't been following it, the paper trail was simply standard, general payments made to the attorney firm by Trump. If the attorney firm did something bad with the funds, that's their problem, not Trumps.
No, it wasn't standard and Cohen didn't even have a firm - these were personal payments to reimburse the loan he took out on his house. Obviously you will never admit you're wrong or believe something that makes your favorite politician look like a criminal but paper trail shows that:
Michael Cohen took out a loan on his house for $130,000 and created a shell company to pay Stormy Daniels.
In order to compensate Cohen for the payment, he had to be repaid double so that he could pay taxes as if it were earned income. In addition to the 130k, Trump also owed him $50k for rigging some polls using a company called Red Finch (you were right, some polls are lies). So he was owed ($130k + $50k) X 2 = $360k. $180k to reimburse the payments he made, $180k to pay income tax to make it look like income. He was also paid a $60k "bonus" for his actual work. So the final total was $420k, and they agreed to pay him $35k monthly for 1 year. ($35k * 12 = $420k).
Here's the Trump org ceo doing the math (he's currently in Rikers island for perjury during Trumps last criminal trial, he also served time for fraud before that - Trump surrounded himself with criminals) The bonus is noted as $50k, but ended up being changed to $60k later.
Here's one of the 12 checks Trump signed over the next year to make it look like Cohen was working for him, even though he was not:
All the holes have been filled in. Trump micromanaged his company, not even the CEO was authorized to make a payment for more than $10k without Trumps blessing. And there's no reason to double a reimbursement for taxes, unless you want to make it look like earned income.
Document Dump: https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/rchcAZNAFo_U/v0
There is no reasonable scenario where all this happened without Trumps explicit approval. And if prosecutors had case as strong as this one against Hillary, and there were no technicalities that caused a mistrial or reversal on appeals, she'd be a convicted felon today - and rightfully so.
Squirm away.
BA, there is unchalleged evidence of the relation between Trump and the playboy and porn actress "Stormy". There is unchallenged evidence of Stormy getting paid and while anyone can doubt Cohen (as much as they can doubt Trump, they are both quite "flexible with truth"), the testimony is not only unchallenged but also aligns perfectly with the documents, the declarations of others and the circumstantial evidence.
BTW, I have published several excepts of the declarations... I am not "following it", I am reading the transcripts.
BTW, I have published several excepts of the declarations... I am not "following it", I am reading the transcripts.
That's the point. You are not following it. Did you read the transcripts that I posted?
If somebody says something that opposes something else he/she said, there's a lie involved. Transcripts of lies don't mean anything at all.
The closest anyone can come to deciphering if contradicting statements that a person makes are lies, is to taker them in context. For example, if Trump says, "Yes, I paid my attorney firm," it might sound like he is admitting to paying off Stormy. But when he says, "It was a standard payment for services rendered," then there is clarification.
When Trump say, "I gave the attorney firm instructions to fix my problems whatever they may be," sounds like he is telling them to pay off Stormy if necessary. But when he says that some 'Stormy' problem didn't even enter his mind because he wasn't aware of anything like that, when he told the attorneys to fix his problems, things change again.
In other words, Trump never admitted to having inappropriate relations with Stormy of any kind, even when it sounded like he might have. It's all speculation that he did anything inappropriate.
This is what happens when you join the Trump cult, but you are no longer useful...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/donald-trump-trials
Some points about the credibility of Cohen have been successfully made by Trump's defence, as it was expected, simply because this is the type of individual that would be all right working for Trump. And this is the type of individuals that would pack the government and institutions of the US is Trump wins - deep into lying for Trump until they are dumped.
But in the end, there is a paper trail that does not lie, payments made and records falsified to be taken into account.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/donald-trump-trials
Some points about the credibility of Cohen have been successfully made by Trump's defence, as it was expected, simply because this is the type of individual that would be all right working for Trump. And this is the type of individuals that would pack the government and institutions of the US is Trump wins - deep into lying for Trump until they are dumped.
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[The defense, led by the Trump lawyer Todd Blanche, resumed attacking Cohen’s credibility in an effort to undermine the testimony of the prosecution’s star witness
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Cohen was forced to concede that he had previously lied to protect Trump because it affected the stakes for him personally
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The defense dug into Cohen’s previous lies under oath and how he seemingly lied about details big and small.
Cohen acknowledged telling Mark Pomerantz, who previously led the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation of Trump, that he felt Daniels and her then lawyer, Keith Davidson, were extorting Trump in seeking a $130,000 payment for her silence on an alleged sexual encounter.
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The defense dug into Cohen’s previous lies under oath and how he seemingly lied about details big and small.
Cohen acknowledged telling Mark Pomerantz, who previously led the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation of Trump, that he felt Daniels and her then lawyer, Keith Davidson, were extorting Trump in seeking a $130,000 payment for her silence on an alleged sexual encounter.
But in the end, there is a paper trail that does not lie, payments made and records falsified to be taken into account.
Just to show that you haven't been following it, the paper trail was simply standard, general payments made to the attorney firm by Trump. If the attorney firm did something bad with the funds, that's their problem, not Trumps.
If you lie, especially in court, none of your statements can be accepted, because nobody knows if you are lying or not. It's a good way to get out of testifying, even if you purger yourself doing it.
BA, there is unchalleged evidence of the relation between Trump and the playboy and porn actress "Stormy". There is unchallenged evidence of Stormy getting paid and while anyone can doubt Cohen (as much as they can doubt Trump, they are both quite "flexible with truth"), the testimony is not only unchallenged but also aligns perfectly with the documents, the declarations of others and the circumstantial evidence.
BTW, I have published several excepts of the declarations... I am not "following it", I am reading the transcripts.
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