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This is what happens when you join the Trump cult, but you are no longer useful...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/donald-trump-trials

Some points about the credibility of Cohen have been successfully made by Trump's defence, as it was expected, simply because this is the type of individual that would be all right working for Trump. And this is the type of individuals that would pack the government and institutions of the US is Trump wins - deep into lying for Trump until they are dumped.


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[The defense, led by the Trump lawyer Todd Blanche, resumed attacking Cohen’s credibility in an effort to undermine the testimony of the prosecution’s star witness

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Cohen was forced to concede that he had previously lied to protect Trump because it affected the stakes for him personally
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The defense dug into Cohen’s previous lies under oath and how he seemingly lied about details big and small.

Cohen acknowledged telling Mark Pomerantz, who previously led the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation of Trump, that he felt Daniels and her then lawyer, Keith Davidson, were extorting Trump in seeking a $130,000 payment for her silence on an alleged sexual encounter.


But in the end, there is a paper trail that does not lie, payments made and records falsified to be taken into account.


Just to show that you haven't been following it, the paper trail was simply standard, general payments made to the attorney firm by Trump. If the attorney firm did something bad with the funds, that's their problem, not Trumps.

If you lie, especially in court, none of your statements can be accepted, because nobody knows if you are lying or not. It's a good way to get out of testifying, even if you purger yourself doing it.

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legendary
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This is what happens when you join the Trump cult, but you are no longer useful...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/donald-trump-trials

Some points about the credibility of Cohen have been successfully made by Trump's defence, as it was expected, simply because this is the type of individual that would be all right working for Trump. And this is the type of individuals that would pack the government and institutions of the US is Trump wins - deep into lying for Trump until they are dumped.


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[The defense, led by the Trump lawyer Todd Blanche, resumed attacking Cohen’s credibility in an effort to undermine the testimony of the prosecution’s star witness

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Cohen was forced to concede that he had previously lied to protect Trump because it affected the stakes for him personally
[...]
The defense dug into Cohen’s previous lies under oath and how he seemingly lied about details big and small.

Cohen acknowledged telling Mark Pomerantz, who previously led the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation of Trump, that he felt Daniels and her then lawyer, Keith Davidson, were extorting Trump in seeking a $130,000 payment for her silence on an alleged sexual encounter.


But in the end, there is a paper trail that does not lie, payments made and records falsified to be taken into account.
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Just to show how silly the Stormy Daniels trial is...


Cohen The Dog 'Fixer'... Stormy The XXX-rated 'Nun'... and the shock moment that exposed the whole sham: KENNEDY's riotous verdict on Trump's trial - and the REAL crime in this legal abomination



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13427871/donald-trump-michael-cohen-stormy-kennedy.html
So, that's it?

Not since Stormy stumbled out of a Nevada hotel room has anyone been so underwhelmed.

For four weeks, botoxed cable news hosts have been consumed, a presidential election has been hamstrung and those eating lunch have been revolted by sloppy, salacious testimony flowing like raw sewage out of a courthouse in lower Manhattan.

It's here that the first former US president in history has been put on trial for the crime of… well, we still don't know exactly.

According to the Democratic hacks in the Manhattan District Attorney's office, our 45th Commander-In-Chief once ordered a mental midget to pay a professional knob-polisher for her silence and then criminally cooked the books to hide the alleged game of hide-the-pickle.

We were assured that Gotham's portly, bail-phobic DA and his lead prosecutor – recruited from the upper echelons of the Biden Justice Department no less – knew what the heck they were doing.

Though, on Thursday, the last day of the prosecution's case, it still looked weaker than Harvey Weinstein's long jump.

If there was ever final proof that this Trivial Trial of the Century is nothing more than the utter debasement – dare I say – political pornification of the US legal system, it's this: It all hinged on the word of a for-hire, screw-job artist… and Stormy Daniels.
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Cohen Destroyed: Trump Lawyer "Dog Walks" Star Witness Through Lie After Lie, CNN Pundits Aghast



https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cohen-destroyed-trump-lawyers-dog-walk-star-witness-through-lie-after-lie-cnn-pundits
President Donald Trump's former attorney Michael Cohen had his "knees chopped out" by Donald Trump's defense attorneys in cross-examination during Trump's 'hush money' trial.

Cohen was grilled by Trump attorney Todd Blanche about a pivotal phone call that connected Trump to allegations that he approved reimbursements to pay porn star Stormy Daniels during the 2016 election. In one exchange, Blanche accused Cohen of lying about speaking with Trump on the phone in October 2016 to reassure his boss that he was handling the payment to Daniels.

Blanche then confronted Cohen with text messages that contradicted the lie - revealing that Cohen in fact spoke with Trump's bodyguard, Keith Schiller.

Trump attorney Todd Blanche grilled him about a pivotal phone call that had connected President Trump to the allegations at the center of the case. He accused Mr. Cohen of calling the former president's bodyguard, Keith Schiller, to complain about harassing phone calls—not to disclose an update on a plan to purchase the silence of Ms. Clifford.

Mr. Cohen said that the prank calls were a part of the conversation with Mr. Schiller.

"Now your memory is that you were testifying truthfully on Tuesday, and you had enough time to update Mr. Schiller about all the problems you were having with these harassing calls?" Mr. Blanche asked him.

"I always run everything by the boss immediately," Mr. Cohen said. "It could've just been me saying, 'everything's been taken care of, it's been resolved.'"

"That was a lie. You did not talk to President Trump that night," Mr. Blanche said. "You can admit it." "No sir, I can't," Mr. Cohen said. "Because I'm not sure that's accurate."

"This jury doesn't want to hear what you think happened," Mr. Blanche said. -Epoch Times
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legendary
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It's like, the harder they push against Trump, the stronger he gets. A bunch of voters who don't really care, but simply want to be on the winning side, are moving over to Trump.


Trump CRUSHES Biden Among Independent Voters By Over 10 Points In New Polls, Trump WINNING - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k617odL49Qg.


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I thought you thought the polls and pollsters lie...
Hillary might be winning in the polls, but the polls and pollsters lie.

Trump is winning the popular vote by a big margin, even though the polls don't show it. But it doesn't matter.
Did being wrong about the popular vote convince you that you were wrong about the polls?
lol jk  I know you'll just pretend to never be wrong when it comes to your favorite politicians.

And yeah, these trials are really helping Trump swing things hard....looks like a total blow out (prob no reason to even vote if you have something better do)





Of course the polls lie. Whoever made the one you quoted lied right along with it.

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It's like, the harder they push against Trump, the stronger he gets. A bunch of voters who don't really care, but simply want to be on the winning side, are moving over to Trump.


Trump CRUSHES Biden Among Independent Voters By Over 10 Points In New Polls, Trump WINNING - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k617odL49Qg.


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I thought you thought the polls and pollsters lie...
Hillary might be winning in the polls, but the polls and pollsters lie.

Trump is winning the popular vote by a big margin, even though the polls don't show it. But it doesn't matter.
Did being wrong about the popular vote convince you that you were wrong about the polls?
lol jk  I know you'll just pretend to never be wrong when it comes to your favorite politicians.

And yeah, these trials are really helping Trump swing things hard....looks like a total blow out (prob no reason to even vote if you have something better do)



legendary
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It's like, the harder they push against Trump, the stronger he gets. A bunch of voters who don't really care, but simply want to be on the winning side, are moving over to Trump.


Trump CRUSHES Biden Among Independent Voters By Over 10 Points In New Polls, Trump WINNING - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k617odL49Qg.


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As for Donald Trump...  I can't believe that Sleepy Joe Biden is actually going to debate him.

Pretty sure you're supposed to call him Crooked Joe or Slow Joe or something other than sleepy Joe since Trump has pretty much been falling asleep every day of his criminal trial.


By the way, I'm surprised you never decided to start up a collection from other btctalk members to "help" Steve Bannon "build the wall".  Seemed right up your alley.
legendary
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Bill Maher makes some good points.
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As for Donald Trump...  I can't believe that Sleepy Joe Biden is actually going to debate him.  As humorous as it will be, I seriously think Biden's handlers are taking his elder abuse to new levels.  Trump is going to make him look like an idiot all night and that's if Joe can survive whatever meth'd up concoction they inject him with to keep him awake for a few hours.

Trump is 78, just 3 years younger and has been in two modes during the trial: Grump mode and oozing mode or like Trump would like to put it "the greatest nap the world has ever seen".

But this is about the trials, and as of now there is abundant testimony to support the accounting fraud. If you ask me, "Stormy" would not have needed to speak about no using condoms or how she but-slapped the former POTUS, but I reckon it has been fun.
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Bill Maher makes some good points.

I personally really enjoyed watching Bill Burr tear Bill Maher a new one and make him look like a total idiot for his liberal opinions.  I think it would actually be an awesome interview show for Bill Burr to sit down with various woke celebrities and tear them apart for their stupid beliefs.  I'd watch it, laugh, and share it with friends.  Smiley

As for Donald Trump...  I can't believe that Sleepy Joe Biden is actually going to debate him.  As humorous as it will be, I seriously think Biden's handlers are taking his elder abuse to new levels.  Trump is going to make him look like an idiot all night and that's if Joe can survive whatever meth'd up concoction they inject him with to keep him awake for a few hours.
legendary
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The prosecution should be done calling witnesses this week.  DJ could very well be on the stand next week.

Also, I'm hoping Trump does what he said this one time and debates Joe.   Taylor Swift should host it.  Smiley

BTW your landing page there is kind of scary. I Never thought this thread could get this interesting.
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The prosecution should be done calling witnesses this week.  DJ could very well be on the stand next week.

Also, I'm hoping Trump does what he said this one time and debates Joe.   Taylor Swift should host it.  Smiley
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Bill Maher makes some good points.


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“Trump whines he’s the victim of ‘selective prosecution,’ the truth is he’s the beneficiary of selective non-prosecution,” Maher said, arguing that Trump should have been charged with breaking campaign finance laws, instead of duking it out in state court on charges of falsifying business records.

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LOL, Lol. Everybody in the world is a 'victim' of selective non-prosecution. Especially in the US, anybody can prosecute anybody for ANYTHING, any time, any place, in any way. Doesn't guarantee they will have success. Doesn't guarantee it won't backfire on them. But they can do it... at least the start of it.

Reminds me of when I completely disprove some idiotic claim you made and you respond with "AnYoNe CaN mAke ChArts aNd GrAphS!!!!"
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Bill Maher makes some good points.


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“Trump whines he’s the victim of ‘selective prosecution,’ the truth is he’s the beneficiary of selective non-prosecution,” Maher said, arguing that Trump should have been charged with breaking campaign finance laws, instead of duking it out in state court on charges of falsifying business records.

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LOL, Lol. Everybody in the world is a 'victim' of selective non-prosecution. Especially in the US, anybody can prosecute anybody for ANYTHING, any time, any place, in any way. Doesn't guarantee they will have success. Doesn't guarantee it won't backfire on them. But they can do it... at least the start of it.


HUGE! White House Admits the Biden-Led Witch Hunt Trial Against Trump is “Related to 2024 Elections” (VIDEO)



https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/huge-white-house-admits-biden-led-witch-hunt/
White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre on Tuesday admitted the Biden-led witch hunt against President Trump is "related to 2024 elections."

Speaker Mike Johnson appeared at the New York courthouse on Tuesday in support of Trump as Biden's goons use lawfare to interfere in the 2024 election.

AP reporter Aamer Madhani asked KJP if it was appropriate that Mike Johnson defended Trump from Biden's lawfare.

"Was it appropriate for Speaker Johnson to show up at the trial of the former president, today?" a hack reporter for the Associated Press asked Karine Jean-Pierre.

Karine Jean-Pierre admitted the Biden-led lawfare trial against Trump is "related to 2024 elections."

"So, look, I can't speak to — uh — um — I don't want to comment. Obviously, as this is related to 2024 elections, and I can't speak to the speaker's schedule. That is something for him to decide on and let's not forget, this is also connected to a independent judicial process. So, going to be really mindful and he makes his choices on what he does, Um — um — you know, with his business that is his choice to be made," Karine Jean-Pierre said.
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Stormy Daniels is so self contradicting in her testimony, that nobody can believe her any longer. This shows how the crooked courts are set against Trump.


Bill Maher PROVES Stormy Daniels LIED In Court In Unearthed Video, Even HE Sees Trump Case IS FRAUD - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D83COifRTs0.

Bill Maher makes some good points.


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“So, tell me, how can the fixer who delivers the hush money be guilty of election interference but the candidate who orders it, pays it, conceals it, not be?” Maher asked, arguing that Trump is clearly guilty of the same crimes to which Michael Cohen pleaded guilty in 2018.

“Trump whines he’s the victim of ‘selective prosecution,’ the truth is he’s the beneficiary of selective non-prosecution,” Maher said, arguing that Trump should have been charged with breaking campaign finance laws, instead of duking it out in state court on charges of falsifying business records.

The same thing happened with Trump’s classified documents case, Maher argued. “By bending over backwards to be fair to the Republican, the Democrat got fucked,” he said.

Garland waited six months to send the FBI to Mar-a-Lago to follow up on Trump’s classified documents case, Maher said, and took 20 months to assign a special prosecutor to investigate.

At the same time the AG leapt to assign a Trump-appointed special counsel to investigate Joe Biden, who was fully exonerated, but smeared with an report alleging the president was “senile, feeble, confused, shell-of-a-former-man, who poops his pants and can’t remember his kids’ names.”

Maher warned that it was happening again with Trump’s election inference case, which has advanced at a glacial pace under Garland’s watch.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bill-maher-blasts-ag-merrick-garland-for-failing-to-prosecute-trump
legendary
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Stormy Daniels is so self contradicting in her testimony, that nobody can believe her any longer. This shows how the crooked courts are set against Trump.


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D83COifRTs0.[/b]
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dumBAss, this was discussed in trial and it is not secret, it is all over the transcripts.

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... the judge knows he does jail Trump, it could affect his career and go down in the history books...

That is so true, and that is why the judge is giving him so many chances.  If he finally orders confinement, his history will show prudence and due diligence.  It's already in the history books, and I'm sure it's boosted the price of a few playboys.  Smiley

Question:  Could the judge confine Trump to his home for 24 hours as a smaller step, or does it need to be actual jail?

I do not know, I think they have a wide latitude on what they can do in case of contempt. For example, if a witness does not answer they can send him to the brick until he  does.

Trump wants desperately to go to jail. His game is playing the victim, you know, "the deep state is hunting me because I want to remove the deep state and the deep state is bad and I am a poor victim that is innocent and helps grannies cross the road..."

If he gets sent to prison it would be a PR triumph, as he lives for those moments and most of his base basically believes whatever he says even if beyond any possible human comprehension, so for them jail will be a confirmation of a conspiracy.

The narrative is amazing, if he walks is because he is innocent and a victim, if he is declared guilty he is innocent and a victim. No cognitive dissonance for his fans.
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... the judge knows he does jail Trump, it could affect his career and go down in the history books...

That is so true, and that is why the judge is giving him so many chances.  If he finally orders confinement, his history will show prudence and due diligence.  It's already in the history books, and I'm sure it's boosted the price of a few playboys.  Smiley

Question:  Could the judge confine Trump to his home for 24 hours as a smaller step, or does it need to be actual jail?
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Gradually the Trump trials are falling apart....

Except the one where a jury found him liable for sexual assault and ordered him to pay the woman he raped with either his finger or penis (she's not sure which) $5 million.

Or the libel case he lost for lying about the woman he raped with either his finger or penis and was ordered to pay $80 million.

Or the one where The Trump Organization was found guilty of felony fraud.

Or the criminal trial going on right now where he has no actual defense and the prosecutions case is so strong that his only hope to not be a convicted felon in a matter of weeks is jury nullification or a technicality.

But yeah, it looks like all he has to do is win a close presidential election to confirm he's above the law and avoid being held accountable for the other 80 felonies he's been charged with.

What is super funny is that Trump supporters can say at the same time that this is a witch hunt and that the trials are going very well because of the evidence presented.

Regardless of the trials that did go ahead, there is an obvious timing problem with the trials.

Having said that, our friend dumBAss thinks that if Trump is elected all this goes. It is not the case, part of it may go as Trump would gain line management over some of the Attorneys but some others will stay. He will still be having trials even if President.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/09/trump-trial-stormy-daniels-testimony-hush-money-case.html

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Trump loses second bid for mistrial in hush money case

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Manhattan Supreme Court Judge Juan Merchan previously warned that Trump has to stop cursing and shaking his head during Daniels’ testimony

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you then decided that you wanted to publicly say that you had sex with Donald Trump,”
Daniels shot back: “Nobody would ever want to publicly say that.”

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Gradually the Trump trials are falling apart....

Except the one where a jury found him liable for sexual assault and ordered him to pay the woman he raped with either his finger or penis (she's not sure which) $5 million.

Or the libel case he lost for lying about the woman he raped with either his finger or penis and was ordered to pay $80 million.

Or the one where The Trump Organization was found guilty of felony fraud.

Or the criminal trial going on right now where he has no actual defense and the prosecutions case is so strong that his only hope to not be a convicted felon in a matter of weeks is jury nullification or a technicality.

But yeah, it looks like all he has to do is win a close presidential election to confirm he's above the law and avoid being held accountable for the other 80 felonies he's been charged with.
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