Quickseller escrowing for himself - page 18.

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Quote from: Vod on September 08, 2015, 06:17:17 PM

Quote from: FrozenOne on September 08, 2015, 05:56:57 PM

Soooo what happpened? Panthers and Quickseller are the same person? Escrow fees refunded? Is that for everyone? I didn't get MY fees refunded. Tongue

Not asking for that, but meh. Just saying...

Frozen, why did you pay an escrow fee if you didn't get an escrow? Are you in the habbit of buying things, getting nothing, then just shrugging shoulders and saying "oh well"? QS claims to have lots of BTC - refunding you isn't a big deal. It's the principal of the matter.

There has been talk of TC doing escrows for himself as well. Did he charge people an escrow fee like QS did, or did he pay it himself, like the one example I saw?

Hmmmm, that's a valid point! Extremely valid...damn...

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Quote from: Tomatocage on September 08, 2015, 06:16:59 PM

Quote from: koshgel on September 08, 2015, 12:40:39 PM

Why the double standard?

Tomatocage did the same thing with his alt extraKrispy but he has seen as one of the most trustworthy people here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sold-200-btc-bitstamp-5-793183

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=257307

I'm not saying I don't trust tomatocage but what's the deal with double standards and witch hunts?

Well, Krispy really is an actual person, though I admit I probably (accidentally) posted from his account as much as he actually did. Dude is a co-worker who was having some bad luck, so I rented out my guest room to him. Those coins that I escrowed for mysel.. oops I mean Krispy really were his coins though. Very convenient explanation, right? I wish it made for a more exciting story, but that's pretty much all there was to it.

did you at any time escrow for yourself yes or no?
if no i'd remove my neg-rate. i trust you enough to be honest about that.

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Quote from: FrozenOne on September 08, 2015, 05:56:57 PM

Soooo what happpened? Panthers and Quickseller are the same person? Escrow fees refunded? Is that for everyone? I didn't get MY fees refunded. Tongue

Not asking for that, but meh. Just saying...

Frozen, why did you pay an escrow fee if you didn't get an escrow? Are you in the habbit of buying things, getting nothing, then just shrugging shoulders and saying "oh well"? QS claims to have lots of BTC - refunding you isn't a big deal. It's the principal of the matter.

There has been talk of TC doing escrows for himself as well. Did he charge people an escrow fee like QS did, or did he pay it himself, like the one example I saw?

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Quote from: koshgel on September 08, 2015, 12:40:39 PM

Why the double standard?

Tomatocage did the same thing with his alt extraKrispy but he has seen as one of the most trustworthy people here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sold-200-btc-bitstamp-5-793183

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=257307

I'm not saying I don't trust tomatocage but what's the deal with double standards and witch hunts?

Well, Krispy really is an actual person, though I admit I probably (accidentally) posted from his account as much as he actually did. Dude is a co-worker who was having some bad luck, so I rented out my guest room to him. Those coins that I escrowed for mysel.. oops I mean Krispy really were his coins though. Very convenient explanation, right? I wish it made for a more exciting story, but that's pretty much all there was to it.

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Quote from: Quickseller on September 08, 2015, 06:11:44 PM

Quote from: FrozenOne on September 08, 2015, 05:56:57 PM

Soooo what happpened? Panthers and Quickseller are the same person? Escrow fees refunded? Is that for everyone? I didn't get MY fees refunded. Tongue

Not asking for that, but meh. Just saying...

If you want them refunded then yes. If you don't feel as if it is necessary (maybe because you think you still got a good deal) then you don't need to request a refund.

I see. Meh. No worries. You're still legit in my book. Deals went good, so no complaints. No refund necessary. Thanks! Good luck with this. :/

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Quote from: FrozenOne on September 08, 2015, 05:56:57 PM

Soooo what happpened? Panthers and Quickseller are the same person? Escrow fees refunded? Is that for everyone? I didn't get MY fees refunded. Tongue

Not asking for that, but meh. Just saying...

If you want them refunded then yes. If you don't feel as if it is necessary (maybe because you think you still got a good deal) then you don't need to request a refund.

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Soooo what happpened? Panthers and Quickseller are the same person? Escrow fees refunded? Is that for everyone? I didn't get MY fees refunded. Tongue

Not asking for that, but meh. Just saying...

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Quote from: Yamato no Orochi on September 08, 2015, 05:17:15 PM

it's called sarcasm...

Ah. I'm a pretty serious person so the sarcasm went over my head. My apologies.

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Quote from: Yamato no Orochi on September 08, 2015, 05:10:25 PM

EDIT
what the fuck happened to neutral?

What do you mean? I can send neutral ratings and see neutral ratings perfectly fine right now. Are you talking about a forum bug?

it's called sarcasm...

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Quote from: Yamato no Orochi on September 08, 2015, 05:10:25 PM

EDIT
what the fuck happened to neutral?

What do you mean? I can send neutral ratings and see neutral ratings perfectly fine right now. Are you talking about a forum bug?

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Positive - You trust this person or had a successful trade.

--should be edited.

unless of course the three people who gave feedback to tsp really trust him.

EDIT
what the fuck happened to neutral?

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Quote from: Quickseller on September 08, 2015, 04:38:33 PM

I am just saying that it may or may not be a good idea to have tspacepilot showing up with positive trust.

Okay! Given some other things you've said about me, I'm going to take this as a step in the right direction!

Learning to doubt yourself is huge. There's no way to realize when you're wrong if you never stop to consider it.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 08, 2015, 04:42:58 PM

Quickseller - tsp doesn't trade here, he is not a scammer. The incident that everybody alludes to was years ago. He's been a good poster & a helpful member of the community since then. He's helped me with tech related stuff a number of times. I like the guy.

It's sad though really, all this shit could have been resolved a long time ago if you two could have 'virtually' shook hands & stopped the pissing contest, all you had to do was remove that negative trust buddy or even make it neutral. It's escalated way too far.

pretty much this, ive finally finished skimming the threads on whats happened in the few days i havent checked the forum, and its really just gone too far at this point; QS is literally a living meme at this point. i had a feeling the tsp vs QS war would escalate to something like this at some point, but suspecting wardrick of being TF? really? iirc wardrick's IRL identity is known to some people on this forum, and i dont think TF of all people would risk anything related to his identity being leaked considering his actions.

edit nvm

Quote from: Blazr on September 08, 2015, 04:44:16 PM

Wardrick isn't TF and I suspect the wardrick account has been hacked.

Quote from: Quickseller on September 08, 2015, 04:19:39 PM

Quote from: Brad Harrison on September 08, 2015, 04:16:27 PM

How's this going? https://www.facebook.com/highpointpaintball

If you are right about wardrick being a part of that group then I can say with certainty that he is not TF. That group is in a college in High Point, NC, and TF is a kid in Australia (IIRC, he is no older then 18 currently)

Yes he is currently under 18! I do not know exactly what age he is but he is still in school and under the age of 18. I believe he is 17 now. If you want said proof feel free to PM me any time.

The dox in that thread you posted are fake. I do know TF's real name and many previous + current addresses, his first name begins with the letter D. but I will not provide his dox to anyone other than law enforcement or potentially a court or lawyer if I am contacted by them and I feel that is necessary.

I really wanted to post his dox but was advised by someone who lost big on inputs and wants recourse that posting his dox could greatly damage legal cases brought against him as for example if he was harrased by an anonymous stranger he could bring a harrassment case against the person suing him, even if he has zero evidence it was the right person and then drag it out to drain the persons legal funds. Thats just one example.

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Quote from: jonald_fyookball on September 08, 2015, 04:34:41 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 08, 2015, 04:07:00 PM

Quote from: tspacepilot on September 08, 2015, 04:04:36 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 08, 2015, 03:50:05 PM

tspacepilot is receiving positive feedback from people on default trust. They are thinking tspacepilot is really a good guy but is he? There was enough "evidence", even more then what they had on me suggesting TC escrows for himself. Nobody brought this up, one even said something about because he didn't charge an escrow fee. He still abused the trust system by leaving feedback for himself, which is what this WHOLE thing was about at first, me supposedly abusing tspacepilot by leaving negative feedback. If tspacepilot really is a good guy, why not run scripts or experiments against TC and krispy?

Scripts are in the OP, along with overview style instructions. If you have trouble running them, let me know.

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I don't think that TC escrowing for himself is wrong,

Oh, wait, okay. Nevermind then.

I am just saying that you are being a hypocrite and that you do not care about the community.

For what its worth, QS, I don't think it reflects well on you to attack tspacepilot at this point.
You were caught doing something questionable. We all make mistakes, but just own up to
it and move on.

THIS!

everybody makes mistakes. He/She made one. Thankfully money was not lost. maybe the escrow fees which has been returned. Own up, apologise and stop stiring shit.

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Quickseller - tsp doesn't trade here, he is not a scammer. The incident that everybody alludes to was years ago. He's been a good poster & a helpful member of the community since then. He's helped me with tech related stuff a number of times. I like the guy.

It's sad though really, all this shit could have been resolved a long time ago if you two could have 'virtually' shook hands & stopped the pissing contest, all you had to do was remove that negative trust buddy or even make it neutral. It's escalated way too far.

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Quote from: jonald_fyookball on September 08, 2015, 04:34:41 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 08, 2015, 04:07:00 PM

Quote from: tspacepilot on September 08, 2015, 04:04:36 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 08, 2015, 03:50:05 PM

tspacepilot is receiving positive feedback from people on default trust. They are thinking tspacepilot is really a good guy but is he? There was enough "evidence", even more then what they had on me suggesting TC escrows for himself. Nobody brought this up, one even said something about because he didn't charge an escrow fee. He still abused the trust system by leaving feedback for himself, which is what this WHOLE thing was about at first, me supposedly abusing tspacepilot by leaving negative feedback. If tspacepilot really is a good guy, why not run scripts or experiments against TC and krispy?

Scripts are in the OP, along with overview style instructions. If you have trouble running them, let me know.

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I don't think that TC escrowing for himself is wrong,

Oh, wait, okay. Nevermind then.

I am just saying that you are being a hypocrite and that you do not care about the community.

For what its worth, QS, I don't think it reflects well on you to attack tspacepilot at this point.
You were caught doing something questionable. We all make mistakes, but just own up to
it and move on.

I am just saying that it may or may not be a good idea to have tspacepilot showing up with positive trust. I don't think it will end well for some poor sap who does not know to look past a peson's trust rating

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Quote from: Quickseller on September 08, 2015, 04:07:00 PM

Quote from: tspacepilot on September 08, 2015, 04:04:36 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 08, 2015, 03:50:05 PM

tspacepilot is receiving positive feedback from people on default trust. They are thinking tspacepilot is really a good guy but is he? There was enough "evidence", even more then what they had on me suggesting TC escrows for himself. Nobody brought this up, one even said something about because he didn't charge an escrow fee. He still abused the trust system by leaving feedback for himself, which is what this WHOLE thing was about at first, me supposedly abusing tspacepilot by leaving negative feedback. If tspacepilot really is a good guy, why not run scripts or experiments against TC and krispy?

Scripts are in the OP, along with overview style instructions. If you have trouble running them, let me know.

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I don't think that TC escrowing for himself is wrong,

Oh, wait, okay. Nevermind then.

I am just saying that you are being a hypocrite and that you do not care about the community.

For what its worth, QS, I don't think it reflects well on you to attack tspacepilot at this point.
You were caught doing something questionable. We all make mistakes, but just own up to
it and move on.

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Quote from: Quickseller on September 08, 2015, 04:22:50 PM

Quote from: eneilwex on September 08, 2015, 04:15:59 PM

Thank you tcp...you are the real scam buster.

WTF? LAMO.

I think you have lost pretty much all credibility.....I am sure this is just a shill account anyway Cheesy

just like many others

Hook, Line , Sinker. Now anyone with an opinion is a shill. You are welcome.

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Quote from: eneilwex on September 08, 2015, 04:15:59 PM

Thank you tcp...you are the real scam buster.

WTF? LAMO.

I think you have lost pretty much all credibility.....I am sure this is just a shill account anyway Cheesy

just like many others

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Quote from: xetsr on September 08, 2015, 03:05:51 PM

Quote from: eneilwex on September 08, 2015, 02:51:24 PM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on September 08, 2015, 01:02:34 PM

Quote from: Vod on September 08, 2015, 10:46:45 AM

Quickseller is threatening that anyone who leaves him negative trust will be excluded from DT. Not sure if that is true or not (high level alts?) but I think people are erring on the side caution until all the shit is exposed.

I wouldn't leave him negative trust. Obviously he's a great scam buster but I wouldn't leave him negative trust. He's proven how he can go on the offensive & ruin people. Who knows how many alts he has, it's not something I'd want to fight. I don't even trade here but I don't want negative trust. I'm not surprised people are scared to give him negative trust.

TSP has been persecuted & now the negative trust he had from QS is effectively worthless he suddenly has another one from a different account. I'd advise anybody who is just a normal poster (not on DT) to steer clear of QS & to not piss him off.

So what if he gives you negative trust? How will that affect your life in the real world? Should we cower in fear of the admins and mods? I will negative trust him If I knew how.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

If you're a trader, buyer or seller here and you're afrad you'll get trolled to the point where it would affect business in the real world, leaving a negative is not such a good idea IMO. This is why I do not getting involved with certain members and disputes, instead remain neutral and just point out things others may have missed.

Remember what happened to Vod and the fake allegations against him? Can't remember if that was all because of negative trust but either way, I don't think anyone wants that to happen to them. Remember that some members are willing to go further then the rest.

having traded on ebay close to 10 years now. Ive had loser scammers leaving me negative feedback every now and then. But because my service is good, I still have an overall positive customer feedback, and a lot of repeat customers. People are not stupid. They can read between the line, most times.

If tsp had taken it lying down,this particular case of trust+escrow abuse would never be exposed. Personally I had no idea it was even possible until now. That been said If ever I were to use an escrow service on this forum, I will tread carefully.

Thank you tcp...you are the real scam buster.

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