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Over 30,000 BTU/h produced by the most obsolete Bitcoin ASIC on the market to date. It also features the brightest 35" OLED viewing screen available producing flames so realistic you'll want to call the fire department.
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Over 30,000 BTU/h produced by the most obsolete Bitcoin ASIC on the market to date. It also features the brightest 35" OLED viewing screen available producing flames so realistic you'll want to call the fire department.
PRE-ORDER TODAY!
http://ecointalk.net/topic/392-black-arrow-weekly-production-update/page-520
So you're saying a bug in your shitty software causes your shitty hardware design to burst into flames. Why not send customers the same solution you use in your mining farm? You know the one where all the used Bitfury boards (minus PSU) you have for sale in-hand on your website come from. Let me guess you're still too busy mining with the original batch of customer X3 hashboards you produced in May?
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blackarrow #10385
Posted Today, 10:39 AM
In the last few days there have been increasing reports of X3 units that have failed during hashing.
We have now located this issue: It has been introduced by a part that we have used in our latest shipped batch (shipped between 20 Oct to 13 Nov). All miners affected by this problem have a barcode sticker (picture will be posted here:http://www.blackarro...y_hashboard.jpg. We are currently sending individual emails to all customers that we believe that are affected. If you have not received an email but are concerned that your miner is affected, please open it and check if your hashboard has such sticker. If your miner is affected, please stop using it immediately. If you do not stop using your miner there is a very high possibility that one or more hashboards will burn. We are now testing new hashboards in which we believe that we have solved the problem. We will send new hashboards to all customers as soon as tests are conclusive. Alternatively we can make arrangements to host your miner in our partner's datacenter in China that charges an all-inclusive fee.
We are deeply sorry for the inconvenience.
Technical details: On the latest batch of miners we started to use a different mosfet because of higher efficiency and better sourcing availability. However, to achieve this efficiency this mosfet lacks a diode that protects it from short circuiting the 12V with GND in case there's a wrong message received from the controller. A wrong message can only be caused by the noise in the circuit or by a faulty controller. We have encountered this issue back in May but we have been working with Vishay (the manufacturer) to fix it. Initially, when we found the issue, we wanted to return the chips but Vishay declined to take them back claiming that they are considered safe to be used in consumer electronics and Sony is using them in PS4. Upon applying the changes in our design based on their advice and after testing more than 20 miners we believed that the problem has been solved and started manufacturing miners with these chips. However, it turns out that the problem is still there and in some unknown cases it happens and the mosfet burns, causing a short circuit which heats up the board and sometimes melts the PCIE connector.
Posted Today, 10:39 AM
In the last few days there have been increasing reports of X3 units that have failed during hashing.
We have now located this issue: It has been introduced by a part that we have used in our latest shipped batch (shipped between 20 Oct to 13 Nov). All miners affected by this problem have a barcode sticker (picture will be posted here:http://www.blackarro...y_hashboard.jpg. We are currently sending individual emails to all customers that we believe that are affected. If you have not received an email but are concerned that your miner is affected, please open it and check if your hashboard has such sticker. If your miner is affected, please stop using it immediately. If you do not stop using your miner there is a very high possibility that one or more hashboards will burn. We are now testing new hashboards in which we believe that we have solved the problem. We will send new hashboards to all customers as soon as tests are conclusive. Alternatively we can make arrangements to host your miner in our partner's datacenter in China that charges an all-inclusive fee.
We are deeply sorry for the inconvenience.
Technical details: On the latest batch of miners we started to use a different mosfet because of higher efficiency and better sourcing availability. However, to achieve this efficiency this mosfet lacks a diode that protects it from short circuiting the 12V with GND in case there's a wrong message received from the controller. A wrong message can only be caused by the noise in the circuit or by a faulty controller. We have encountered this issue back in May but we have been working with Vishay (the manufacturer) to fix it. Initially, when we found the issue, we wanted to return the chips but Vishay declined to take them back claiming that they are considered safe to be used in consumer electronics and Sony is using them in PS4. Upon applying the changes in our design based on their advice and after testing more than 20 miners we believed that the problem has been solved and started manufacturing miners with these chips. However, it turns out that the problem is still there and in some unknown cases it happens and the mosfet burns, causing a short circuit which heats up the board and sometimes melts the PCIE connector.
So you're saying a bug in your shitty software causes your shitty hardware design to burst into flames. Why not send customers the same solution you use in your mining farm? You know the one where all the used Bitfury boards (minus PSU) you have for sale in-hand on your website come from. Let me guess you're still too busy mining with the original batch of customer X3 hashboards you produced in May?
Wow, I didn't think anyone would surpass BFL's incompetence. Congrats BA, you've finally bested BFL!
http://ecointalk.net/topic/392-black-arrow-weekly-production-update/page-520
So you're saying a bug in your shitty software causes your shitty hardware design to burst into flames. Why not send customers the same solution you use in your mining farm? You know the one where all the used Bitfury boards (minus PSU) you have for sale in-hand on your website come from. Let me guess you're still too busy mining with the original batch of customer X3 hashboards you produced in May?
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blackarrow #10385
Posted Today, 10:39 AM
In the last few days there have been increasing reports of X3 units that have failed during hashing.
We have now located this issue: It has been introduced by a part that we have used in our latest shipped batch (shipped between 20 Oct to 13 Nov). All miners affected by this problem have a barcode sticker (picture will be posted here:http://www.blackarro...y_hashboard.jpg. We are currently sending individual emails to all customers that we believe that are affected. If you have not received an email but are concerned that your miner is affected, please open it and check if your hashboard has such sticker. If your miner is affected, please stop using it immediately. If you do not stop using your miner there is a very high possibility that one or more hashboards will burn. We are now testing new hashboards in which we believe that we have solved the problem. We will send new hashboards to all customers as soon as tests are conclusive. Alternatively we can make arrangements to host your miner in our partner's datacenter in China that charges an all-inclusive fee.
We are deeply sorry for the inconvenience.
Technical details: On the latest batch of miners we started to use a different mosfet because of higher efficiency and better sourcing availability. However, to achieve this efficiency this mosfet lacks a diode that protects it from short circuiting the 12V with GND in case there's a wrong message received from the controller. A wrong message can only be caused by the noise in the circuit or by a faulty controller. We have encountered this issue back in May but we have been working with Vishay (the manufacturer) to fix it. Initially, when we found the issue, we wanted to return the chips but Vishay declined to take them back claiming that they are considered safe to be used in consumer electronics and Sony is using them in PS4. Upon applying the changes in our design based on their advice and after testing more than 20 miners we believed that the problem has been solved and started manufacturing miners with these chips. However, it turns out that the problem is still there and in some unknown cases it happens and the mosfet burns, causing a short circuit which heats up the board and sometimes melts the PCIE connector.
Posted Today, 10:39 AM
In the last few days there have been increasing reports of X3 units that have failed during hashing.
We have now located this issue: It has been introduced by a part that we have used in our latest shipped batch (shipped between 20 Oct to 13 Nov). All miners affected by this problem have a barcode sticker (picture will be posted here:http://www.blackarro...y_hashboard.jpg. We are currently sending individual emails to all customers that we believe that are affected. If you have not received an email but are concerned that your miner is affected, please open it and check if your hashboard has such sticker. If your miner is affected, please stop using it immediately. If you do not stop using your miner there is a very high possibility that one or more hashboards will burn. We are now testing new hashboards in which we believe that we have solved the problem. We will send new hashboards to all customers as soon as tests are conclusive. Alternatively we can make arrangements to host your miner in our partner's datacenter in China that charges an all-inclusive fee.
We are deeply sorry for the inconvenience.
Technical details: On the latest batch of miners we started to use a different mosfet because of higher efficiency and better sourcing availability. However, to achieve this efficiency this mosfet lacks a diode that protects it from short circuiting the 12V with GND in case there's a wrong message received from the controller. A wrong message can only be caused by the noise in the circuit or by a faulty controller. We have encountered this issue back in May but we have been working with Vishay (the manufacturer) to fix it. Initially, when we found the issue, we wanted to return the chips but Vishay declined to take them back claiming that they are considered safe to be used in consumer electronics and Sony is using them in PS4. Upon applying the changes in our design based on their advice and after testing more than 20 miners we believed that the problem has been solved and started manufacturing miners with these chips. However, it turns out that the problem is still there and in some unknown cases it happens and the mosfet burns, causing a short circuit which heats up the board and sometimes melts the PCIE connector.
So you're saying a bug in your shitty software causes your shitty hardware design to burst into flames. Why not send customers the same solution you use in your mining farm? You know the one where all the used Bitfury boards (minus PSU) you have for sale in-hand on your website come from. Let me guess you're still too busy mining with the original batch of customer X3 hashboards you produced in May?
Still no reply from Minersource about my promised refund it's now almost a year ago since I pre-ordered and paid for 2 Blackarrow X-1 miners, worst. decision. ever. 
They only have to send me 1 BTC (less then 50% of what I paid) which is done in less then a minute, instead they decide to simply keep my money going against all consumer protection laws. I don't know what to do anymore..
They only have to send me 1 BTC (less then 50% of what I paid) which is done in less then a minute, instead they decide to simply keep my money going against all consumer protection laws. I don't know what to do anymore..
Might as well write it off as a loss , if you are in the US you can deduct it from your taxes..
Still no reply from Minersource about my promised refund it's now almost a year ago since I pre-ordered and paid for 2 Blackarrow X-1 miners, worst. decision. ever.
They only have to send me 1 BTC (less then 50% of what I paid) which is done in less then a minute, instead they decide to simply keep my money going against all consumer protection laws. I don't know what to do anymore..
They only have to send me 1 BTC (less then 50% of what I paid) which is done in less then a minute, instead they decide to simply keep my money going against all consumer protection laws. I don't know what to do anymore..
I'm also pretty sure every dollar given to Black Arrow funds terrorist groups like ISIS.
OH MY GOD
I was just looking through the international Terrorist Database and I found this:
http://archive.adl.org/terrorism/symbols/popular_front_pa1.html
The Black Arrow as represented by terrorist groups!!
Now I'm not saying with 100% certainty that Black Arrow supports Terrorists..
But their model would be a stellar way to do so (Impossible to litigate, moving bitcoins around to buy arms, drugs, soldiers, etc....
I mean Glenn Beck Raped and murdered that girl didn't he? It's entirely possible BA funds Acts of Terror all over the globe!!
Someone NEEDS TO EXPOSE THIS (if it is true)
It looks to me like their logo is a 1:1 ripoff of the Adobe logo.
Like many things in life there often are are no coincidences and the terrorist logo does contain a backwards black arrow turning 90° as central feature.
Out of the 10 units we have running, there are a few bad chips/boards out of all of them, but nothing major. We have the replacement boards to put in, just working on them one at a time.
blackarrow, on 08 Nov 2014 - 12:03 AM, said:
"Prospero software update: 1.14
Should there be a short circuit, the PSU will refuse to power up. If this happens, the customer will need to return us the faulty hashboard for replacement.
Note that this protection is working only with APlusPower PSUs that is included in our miners.
Soooooo...
"Download our software so we can brick your miner."
At this point there's a "Trading Places" like bet going on somewhere...
"What should we bet on?"
Well last time we bet I turned Kanye West into a superstar,.. so you need to do something very difficult, something that I'll quickly agree can't be done, but you're sure you can do, that way we'll be even.
"OK I bet you I can repeatedly defraud, lie, molest, insult, overpromise and underdeliver, bait and switch, and make up excuses over and over to a group of people who will buy my products. I will break every essential rule of business, and I will still walk away 100% in the clear with not only the money I charge them, but I will actually have them work for me and give me money above and beyond what I charged them. To make things really interesting,.. I'll even wait over a year to deliver to many of them,.. what do you say?"
Can't be done,.. You have yourself a bet!
"How much shall we say for then?"
The usual, 1 yen of course!
Their latest offer is for you to download their windows control centre software, probably to monitor your wallet.dat file. BA has a bright future with this potential cloud mining gold mine.
I'm also pretty sure every dollar given to Black Arrow funds terrorist groups like ISIS.
OH MY GOD
I was just looking through the international Terrorist Database and I found this:
http://archive.adl.org/terrorism/symbols/popular_front_pa1.html
The Black Arrow as represented by terrorist groups!!
Now I'm not saying with 100% certainty that Black Arrow supports Terrorists..
But their model would be a stellar way to do so (Impossible to litigate, moving bitcoins around to buy arms, drugs, soldiers, etc....
I mean Glenn Beck Raped and murdered that girl didn't he? It's entirely possible BA funds Acts of Terror all over the globe!!
Someone NEEDS TO EXPOSE THIS (if it is true)
Too optimistic by half. Once they're done blaming the solderers, they'll find some other bullshit excuse for non-fulfillment.
"Sorry, it's a 2-week national holiday again in China."
"Sorry, the dog ate the plans for new firmware revision."
"Sorry, someone made the mistake of feeding the gremlins after midnight."
0.5% failure rate my hairy ass.
"Sorry, it's a 2-week national holiday again in China."
"Sorry, the dog ate the plans for new firmware revision."
"Sorry, someone made the mistake of feeding the gremlins after midnight."
0.5% failure rate my hairy ass.
I'm guessing failure rates are well over 25%
I'm also pretty sure every dollar given to Black Arrow funds terrorist groups like ISIS.
Meanwhile they're busy funding other projects that have nothing to do with our miners, so that when/if compensation time ever comes they can say "Oh verry sorry, no money in the accounts see? We are very very poor, no money here, you go mine and make money that way!, You go now! WHAT?! no that's not a bomb vest and a scrypt miner behind that table, it's an illusion, you imagining it! YOU GO NOW!"
blackarrow, on 08 Nov 2014 - 12:03 AM, said:
"Prospero software update: 1.14
Should there be a short circuit, the PSU will refuse to power up. If this happens, the customer will need to return us the faulty hashboard for replacement.
Note that this protection is working only with APlusPower PSUs that is included in our miners.
Soooooo...
"Download our software so we can brick your miner."
At this point there's a "Trading Places" like bet going on somewhere...
"What should we bet on?"
Well last time we bet I turned Kanye West into a superstar,.. so you need to do something very difficult, something that I'll quickly agree can't be done, but you're sure you can do, that way we'll be even.
"OK I bet you I can repeatedly defraud, lie, molest, insult, overpromise and underdeliver, bait and switch, and make up excuses over and over to a group of people who will buy my products. I will break every essential rule of business, and I will still walk away 100% in the clear with not only the money I charge them, but I will actually have them work for me and give me money above and beyond what I charged them. To make things really interesting,.. I'll even wait over a year to deliver to many of them,.. what do you say?"
Can't be done,.. You have yourself a bet!
"How much shall we say for then?"
The usual, 1 yen of course!
Too optimistic by half. Once they're done blaming the solderers, they'll find some other bullshit excuse for non-fulfillment.
"Sorry, it's a 2-week national holiday again in China."
"Sorry, the dog ate the plans for new firmware revision."
"Sorry, someone made the mistake of feeding the gremlins after midnight."
0.5% failure rate my hairy ass.
"Sorry, it's a 2-week national holiday again in China."
"Sorry, the dog ate the plans for new firmware revision."
"Sorry, someone made the mistake of feeding the gremlins after midnight."
0.5% failure rate my hairy ass.
The gremlins technical skills make it my all-time favourite supernatural entity. The original Twilight Zone: The Movie was awesome!
Too optimistic by half. Once they're done blaming the solderers, they'll find some other bullshit excuse for non-fulfillment.
"Sorry, it's a 2-week national holiday again in China."
"Sorry, the dog ate the plans for new firmware revision."
"Sorry, someone made the mistake of feeding the gremlins after midnight."
0.5% failure rate my hairy ass.
"Sorry, it's a 2-week national holiday again in China."
"Sorry, the dog ate the plans for new firmware revision."
"Sorry, someone made the mistake of feeding the gremlins after midnight."
0.5% failure rate my hairy ass.
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Date added: 12 Nov 2014 Prospero X3 issues
There have been several reports and X3 units returned to warranty that have failed during hashing. While the issue has happened to less than 0.5% of manufactured machines, we would like to assure that this is under our standards of quality and we deeply apologize for any inconveniences this has caused.
We take this matter very seriously and have started looking into it with the first report we have received. We have also already contracted several expert companies to help us analyse and locate the problem. Until now we have not received their final answer but their preliminary analysis is that the problem is caused by faulty soldering of the mosfets which allowed them to overheat and enter in a state of short-circuit which caused the PCB to overheat and the PCI socket to meltdown. We believe that the smoke caused by the mosfet and plastic burning is toxic and must not be inhaled. For this reason we ask customers who have just received their X3 to keep it in a well ventilated area for at least 1 week as we did not had the chance to test the latest shipped miners for more than 1 hour.
Please rest assured that this issue is covered by warranty and in order to provide peace of mind to customers that are concerned that this might happen to their machine we are offering hosting into our partner's datacenter in China. This includes any X3 unit that has been shipped or still due to be shipped. Please contact us via our customer support, should you like us to host your X3.
There have been several reports and X3 units returned to warranty that have failed during hashing. While the issue has happened to less than 0.5% of manufactured machines, we would like to assure that this is under our standards of quality and we deeply apologize for any inconveniences this has caused.
We take this matter very seriously and have started looking into it with the first report we have received. We have also already contracted several expert companies to help us analyse and locate the problem. Until now we have not received their final answer but their preliminary analysis is that the problem is caused by faulty soldering of the mosfets which allowed them to overheat and enter in a state of short-circuit which caused the PCB to overheat and the PCI socket to meltdown. We believe that the smoke caused by the mosfet and plastic burning is toxic and must not be inhaled. For this reason we ask customers who have just received their X3 to keep it in a well ventilated area for at least 1 week as we did not had the chance to test the latest shipped miners for more than 1 hour.
Please rest assured that this issue is covered by warranty and in order to provide peace of mind to customers that are concerned that this might happen to their machine we are offering hosting into our partner's datacenter in China. This includes any X3 unit that has been shipped or still due to be shipped. Please contact us via our customer support, should you like us to host your X3.
This reminds me of back in May when they stated they had multiple teams of engineers working on the serial communications problem around the clock for weeks on end without rest.
This new problem and the multiple teams they've contracted out to fix it seems like a smoke-screen to cover the fact that they're not actually shipping all but a few X3s. Can we expect delivery in Q1/Q2 of 2015 now or is this too optimistic?
It would seem the ESL enhances your Freudian slip Mr ANDREEV.
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Dear XXX,
Unfortunately due to lack of funds, as we invested money in production and payment to workers, we currently do not posses money required to issue refunds.
Unfortunately due to lack of funds, as we invested money in production and payment to workers, we currently do not posses money required to issue refunds.
Bullshit, you guys were mining on Bitfurys purchased with our money from day-one and are fucking loaded now.
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We understand your situation, however we do not sell out of the shelf products ...
There are USED Bitfury miners in stock for sale on your website that are "out of the shelf". You guys are so full of shit.
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... and according to Hong Kong law, this case is classified as investment in new product development.
"Black Arrow is not an investment or insurance company and cannot accept to be taken advantage of" -- blackarrow
You guys stink so bad.
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As for delay compensation, we offered our customers multiple options where they can pick the best way that will suit them, Currently we offer 50% compensation in hardware, ...
50% additional hardware? The hardware is worthless now how is 50% more considered compensation?
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... or Conversion to ASIC minion chips each 45$ paid equal 1 chip of 100 GH/S, we will also announce additional option soon.
The Minion is obsolete, how are bare chips compensation when they're practically worthless? What am I going to do play poker with them?
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We are sorry for inconvenience caused.
Regards Alexey A.
Regards Alexey A.
Inconvenience? You guys STOLE thousands and thousands of dollars from me this is THEFT not an inconvenience.
This case eh?
In a way I'd love to see them hosting all of these things.
They can watch them, they can fix them, they can deal with the bullshit they have created.
fuckin' karma as far as I'm concerned.
They can watch them, they can fix them, they can deal with the bullshit they have created.
fuckin' karma as far as I'm concerned.
Please rest assured that this issue is covered by warranty and in order to provide peace of mind to customers that are concerned that this might happen to their machine we are offering hosting into our partner's datacenter in China. This includes any X3 unit that has been shipped or still due to be shipped. Please contact us via our customer support, should you like us to host your X3.
Fuck these people, they even just figured out how to take advantage of the fact that their pieces of shit light on fire to make not just the Rent-Some-Minions a Ponzi scheme, but also the direct hardware sales! These X3's never have to be made, all they have to do is once you're ready to end hosting, contact you with a price to ship it to you that isn't worth it, and in the meantime all they did was pay you back a tiny portion of your own bitcoins pretending you've been mining.
Meanwhile they're collecting an extra hundred bucks every month from you for the privilege of being conned, they keep all the functional X3's for themselves for their own personal farm, preferentially ship out the broken ones to a small amount of customers, and handle all the RMA related issues at customer expense.
Holy crap are we all idiots for not being criminals.
Yep. Unless they include shipping of the product at the end of this hosting and allow us to remotely monitor and control these, as I think they promised at the outset we could do during the free 5 day period (or maybe it was rentaminion) this could be exactly this sort of scam.
Please rest assured that this issue is covered by warranty and in order to provide peace of mind to customers that are concerned that this might happen to their machine we are offering hosting into our partner's datacenter in China. This includes any X3 unit that has been shipped or still due to be shipped. Please contact us via our customer support, should you like us to host your X3.
Fuck these people, they even just figured out how to take advantage of the fact that their pieces of shit light on fire to make not just the Rent-Some-Minions a Ponzi scheme, but also the direct hardware sales! These X3's never have to be made, all they have to do is once you're ready to end hosting, contact you with a price to ship it to you that isn't worth it, and in the meantime all they did was pay you back a tiny portion of your own bitcoins pretending you've been mining.
Meanwhile they're collecting an extra hundred bucks every month from you for the privilege of being conned, they keep all the functional X3's for themselves for their own personal farm, preferentially ship out the broken ones to a small amount of customers, and handle all the RMA related issues at customer expense.
Holy crap are we all idiots for not being criminals.
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Dear XXX,
Unfortunately due to lack of funds, as we invested money in production and payment to workers, we currently do not posses money required to issue refunds.
Unfortunately due to lack of funds, as we invested money in production and payment to workers, we currently do not posses money required to issue refunds.
Bullshit, you guys were mining on Bitfurys purchased with our money from day-one and are fucking loaded now.
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We understand your situation, however we do not sell out of the shelf products ...
There are USED Bitfury miners in stock for sale on your website that are "out of the shelf". You guys are so full of shit.
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... and according to Hong Kong law, this case is classified as investment in new product development.
"Black Arrow is not an investment or insurance company and cannot accept to be taken advantage of" -- blackarrow
You guys stink so bad.
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As for delay compensation, we offered our customers multiple options where they can pick the best way that will suit them, Currently we offer 50% compensation in hardware, ...
50% additional hardware? The hardware is worthless now how is 50% more considered compensation?
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... or Conversion to ASIC minion chips each 45$ paid equal 1 chip of 100 GH/S, we will also announce additional option soon.
The Minion is obsolete, how are bare chips compensation when they're practically worthless? What am I going to do play poker with them?
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We are sorry for inconvenience caused.
Regards Alexey A.
Regards Alexey A.
Inconvenience? You guys STOLE thousands and thousands of dollars from me this is THEFT not an inconvenience.
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