Topic: Received BFL Jalapeño Today! - page 6. (Read 40241 times)

Lol, he's keeping track on everyone who hassles him on a forum, glimpsing over the solid points against him, deleting people "defaming bfl" (as if it's possible), but he can't check e-mails.  Hmm... Loose ends.  He likes grape guys.  Did you know that?

1. Your best response is word games?

2. You keep avoiding important questions (i.e. why does it take 2 weeks to get a response concerning a refund?).

3. Also you keep calling us lying sacks of shit yet I haven't lied about your 1000BTC bet. You still have not proved you paid Runeks.

4. Keep avoiding important questions and only respond to arguments that boil down to DEFINITIONS and SPELLING word games.

They require 1 to 2 weeks to respond to refunds?

To me that sounds like they are trying to delay refunding customers en masse because they dont have enough funds to keep things operational.

Refunds should not take 2 weeks. lol come on most businesses don't take that long to refund an order. Most take 2-3 business days max.

But then again we arent talking about a normal business this is BFL we are talking about.

 Kinda like your October or November 2012 shipping dates were wrong and "misrepresentation" ?

k9quaint, you, once again, are apparently too dense to understand the difference between being wrong and "misrepresentation."  Since you're unable to even differentiate between two very simple words, we really don't have much to discuss.  I recommend trying to learn basic English before trying to debate me.  You're pathetic it at.

But lets look at the BFL clown crew:  Tom is a scammer, no surprise there.  BitcoinINV, another scammer... no surprise there. CreativeX is still around trolling, as is Syke. Cedivad and Abracadabra have a BFL order now, shocker.  ElectricMusic has stopped? He drops in to troll now and again, but I've had him on ignore for a long time.  Abracadabra... yep BFL order.  That leaves SolarSilver.

Let's tally:

9 BFL clown crew total.
2 Scammers
2 BFL converts
4 Trolls still trollin' hard
1 MIA (SolarSilver)

So yeah... 44% still trolling, 22% BFL, 22% scammers and 11% Other. Gonna go with: k9quaint: FAIL

If bASIC (a former competitor to BFL) is any indication of what happens as a company implodes....

I suppose it is a true First In, First Out type of situation when it comes to refunds.

I am more interested in whether or not Paypal will do anything. Lets hope this man gets thrown to the front of the queue rather than jettisoned.

Edit: 2 weeks is a shocking amount of time...

I hope that "Due to high number of messages, please allow 1-2 weeks for responses from [email protected]" isn't people requesting refunds.
I wonder if they have enough cash to refund all their pre-orders, or will it become first come first serve?

Take a look at this shocking development:
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/2004-i-want-cancel-my-order-been-week-no-response-office%40butterflylabs-2.html

Do you think he will get his Jalepeno immediately?

Comments welcome...

are you shipping 400 a day like you boasted many times or not?

simple question which of course you avoided

He is probably busy deleting the posts. 

 So, Mr. Zerlan. Care to explain further about "so many lies and deceit perpetrated by people with agendas, unbalanced sense of reality or just plain crazy"

 It would seem clear to me that YOUR agenda is to shirk all responsibility or honor for your prior commitments.

Here is you claiming 60w power usage and shipping in 2 weeks in Nov 2012:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1314947
Here is you claiming the Jalapeno was getting FCC approval in 2 weeks and you were waiting for the test lab to issue the test report in Nov 2012. Oh, and that you were testing "all the devices at once" as if you actually had stuff that worked.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1314335
Here is you betting on BFL @ 1.1GH/watt
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1314335
And that is after looking through a few pages of you calling everyone on these boards trolls and douchebags. I'd rather not look through hundreds of posts of you being an ass. I will just find one of the summary threads where this has been composed and collated nicely.


It is actually a handful of people who defend BFL. A couple of low post count month old accounts that only post in BFL threads, Kano and you.
We know why Kano is pimping for BFL.
It doesn't look like the same cast of characters attacking you as before:

Except for PuertoLibre it is a whole new cast.

Folks, if you don't believe us and instead believe Inaba, PLEASE, read the past. It will give you absolutely all the answers you need.

A troll would not say this. There is plenty to show, the mere claims made that we are idiots is nothing more than a ball of smoke to convince the most willfully ignorant.

Do your homework before you invest in that company. When you do, come on here and tell us what you found and you will shed more light on the subject and counter many of Inaba's spurious claims. Some of us are more antagonistic than others because we already know better.

Do your homework before you throw down thousands of dollars on these folks. Know their company inside and out before you pay at the checkout as you have only yourself to blame if you lose anything.

Visit the BFL forums and go to the very first pages. Learn the truth!

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/index2.html

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/index23.html

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/jalapeno-single-sc-support/index11.html

You can't build an ASIC product overnight, which is what they keep claiming to do. In mid-Oct they claimed they'd still ship in Oct, yet they had no chips or anything close to a working product. Their schedule has been impossible to meet. That can only mean they lied about it.

I think it is they don't have enough preorder customer money. Why else would they ship the first units to PR people?

So far there isn't a slew of devices from BFL being shipped out. What < 20? < 10?

 You have absolutely no license or credibility to speak about having a firm grasp of reality.

Except... that's not really true.  Not terribly surprising coming from you, but none the less.  Trolls like you like to trot this out but to date, not a single one has been able to produce any evidence to back up this claim.  Meanwhile, in reality-land, I have provided numerous links and evidence to the contrary.  It's funny how you make these claims but never once back up your statements, but you keep at it, hoping someone will believe your BS.


Ahh the wonderful sockpuppet defense.  For the record, BFL has exactly zero sockpuppet accounts.  Just like poor little Bryan Micon and his claims of a massive BFL Bot army downvoting his ridiculous little Reddit rants, it's just impossible for people like you, who have a tenuous grasp on reality at best, to believe that rational people actually evaluate the situation and the facts in a coherent manner and come to the logical conclusion.  Your little warped sense of reality doesn't really hold up to any sort of thorough or really even a cursory investigation.  It's why this particular subforum on Bitcointalk is the ass end of the internet - so many lies and deceit perpetrated by people with agendas, unbalanced sense of reality or just plain crazy, most rational people stay far, far away from it.  

There's a little handful of you trolls who troll every BFL thread.  I wouldn't even be posting here if there was moderation weeding out your useless little diatribes, but since there's none, here I am, arguing with idiots.  It's like a hobby at this point.  One I could certainly leave behind and be glad to be rid of it, let me tell you.  Maybe one day we'll get some real moderation here and Bitcointalk can become a place where rational adults can have discourse again, but not until people like PL, Syke, k9quaint, etc are all perma-banned.

You see this behavior a lot..  attack the dumbest argument cast at you so you look smart and on the ball while all the other hard questions go unanswered..

what is keeping BFL from shipping 400 a day like Josh boasted many times?

Their whole communication approach is not helping at all. I really hope some real competition flourish in this market, we need that.

BFL has been caught in so many misrepresentations to date, all of which has been documented to death on this forum.
People claim there is no evidence of "intent". While defending their specs they made claims about the state of their chips and performance measurements of units that supposedly existed. Given what we know now, those claims could not possibly have been merely in error.

The reason why so many of these threads appear is because of people like you. You refuse to read the evidence presented in past threads, so we have to rehash the same stuff over and over again. Then Josh and his Sockpuppet show appears and starts yelling about trolls and calling everyone names.

Right up until the end, people believed in Pirate40 and defended him. I hope this is not history repeating itself. Yet again.