Topic: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. - page 149. (Read 636456 times)
Probably a good idea to ban deniers of evidence from any forum aimed at scientific discussion of evidence.
Man-made climate change:
Don't be a climate denier!
Don't be a climate denier!
What the massive snowfall in Boston tells us about global warming
The snowfall in Boston lately is simply insane. The local bureau of the National Weather Service has tallied up the data and here’s how it looks — with all time records for snow within a 14-, 20-, and 30-day period.
You could treat this as ordinary weather, or, you could think about it in a climate context. Counter-intuitive though it may sound, the fact remains that — as I have noted previously — some kinds of winter precipitation could indeed be more intense because we’re in a warming world.
Consider, for instance, that sea surface temperatures off the coast of New England are flashing red, showing an extreme warm anomaly. That’s highly relevant — because warmer oceans have atmospheric consequences.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/02/10/what-the-massive-snowfall-in-boston-tells-us-about-global-warming/?tid=sm_tw
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Could fudging data for years be a cause for more snow in boston? The facts are clear...
Global Warming Sparks Fears Of Another Food Crisis In
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That's good. For a laugh.
THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED
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WARMER:
“Why are winters warming up so much...
“Global warming will cause major changes to the climate of the U.S. Northeast if greenhouse gas emissions are not reduced, scientists said today. Warmer annual temperatures, less snow, ....
“New research from UNH’s Climate Change Research Center’s Cameron Wake and his former graduate student Elizabeth Burakowski confirms what anyone enjoying today’s balmy temperatures might suspect: In the northeast, winters are indeed getting warmer.....
Pretty good collection of lies there. Tar and feathers....
“Why are winters warming up so much...
“Global warming will cause major changes to the climate of the U.S. Northeast if greenhouse gas emissions are not reduced, scientists said today. Warmer annual temperatures, less snow, ....
“New research from UNH’s Climate Change Research Center’s Cameron Wake and his former graduate student Elizabeth Burakowski confirms what anyone enjoying today’s balmy temperatures might suspect: In the northeast, winters are indeed getting warmer.....
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COLDER:
“A warmer Arctic climate is influencing the air pressure at the North Pole and shifting wind patterns on our planet. We can expect more cold and snowy ....
“That is why the Eastern United States, Northern Europe and East Asia have experienced extraordinarily snowy and cold winters since the turn of this century. Most forecasts have failed to predict these colder winters, however, because the primary drivers in their models are the oceans, which have been warming even as winters have grown chillier. ....
“The overall warming of Earth’s northern half could result in cold winters,....
“Europe’s cold winters and the warmth of the planet as a whole might even be linked. There is some evidence that the summer heat stored ...
“But while piles of snow blocking your driveway hardly conjure images of a dangerously warming world, it doesn’t mean that climate change is a myth....
“A warmer Arctic climate is influencing the air pressure at the North Pole and shifting wind patterns on our planet. We can expect more cold and snowy ....
“That is why the Eastern United States, Northern Europe and East Asia have experienced extraordinarily snowy and cold winters since the turn of this century. Most forecasts have failed to predict these colder winters, however, because the primary drivers in their models are the oceans, which have been warming even as winters have grown chillier. ....
“The overall warming of Earth’s northern half could result in cold winters,....
“Europe’s cold winters and the warmth of the planet as a whole might even be linked. There is some evidence that the summer heat stored ...
“But while piles of snow blocking your driveway hardly conjure images of a dangerously warming world, it doesn’t mean that climate change is a myth....
Pretty good collection of lies there. Tar and feathers....
Global Warming Sparks Fears Of Another Food Crisis In
As North Korea heads toward the “barley hump” – the lean season before the rice and corn harvest in the summer – aid agencies are warning that an unusually dry winter is compounding chronic food shortages in the impoverished country.
And while North Korea may no longer be in a state of famine, malnutrition remains such a widespread problem that even slight changes in weather can have an outsized impact on ordinary people’s food supply.
“We’re concerned about seed scarcity and the low level rain and snowfall,” John Aylieff, deputy Asia director at the U.N.’s World Food Program, said from Pyongyang. “All of these things are raising concerns about the winter harvest this year.”
Winter crops – including wheat and barley – should be growing now, but after an exceptionally dry year in 2014, rainfall around the country has been markedly lower than usual so far this year, particularly in the “cereal bowl” provinces of Pyongan in the west and Hwanghae in the south.
Although the winter harvest makes up only 5 percent of North Korea’s domestic food supply, it is a critical time because the crops see the country through the lean season known locally as the barley hump – the period between May and August before rice and corn crops are harvested.
“If there is a big gap, this could prolong the lean season and it could prove a ’flash point’ for malnutrition,” Aylieff said.[…]
Allowing more freedom in the rural areas could increase people’s standard of living there – and potentially make the regime more stable.
Randall Ireson, a former agricultural adviser who worked for a nonprofit agency in North Korea for almost a decade, said the reforms did appear to be making a difference.
“We should be able to see more diverse crops at a local farm level,” he said, adding that North Korea was beginning to move away from its emphasis on rice and maize, and growing more soybeans.
But the changes do not yet constitute Chinese- or Vietnamese-style economic reform because North Koreans have no certainty about the officially state-owned land.
“If farmers believe that they can have these fields and farm them for at least the medium term future, they will be more likely to invest in improving the soil, but they need some assurance that the efforts they put in won’t go to waste,” Ireson said, noting that it could easily take three years to return the depleted soil to good health.
http://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/dry-winter-sparks-fears-of-another-food-crisis-in-north-korea-1.328496
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... adding that North Korea was beginning to move away from its emphasis on rice and maize, and growing more soybeans... And cannibalism.
THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED
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WARMER:
“Why are winters warming up so much faster over Northern Hemisphere continents than over the rest of the globe? A new study by NASA researchers in the June 3 issue of the journal Nature is the first to link the well-documented large degree of North America and Eurasia winter warming and the associated wind changes to rising greenhouse gas levels in the atmosphere.”
–1999, NASA GISS
“Global warming will cause major changes to the climate of the U.S. Northeast if greenhouse gas emissions are not reduced, scientists said today. Warmer annual temperatures, less snow, more frequent droughts and more extreme rainstorms are expected if current warming trends continue, the scientists said in a new study, and time is running out for action to avoid such changes to the climate.”
— 2006 Northeast Climate Impacts Assessment, a collaboration between the Union of Concerned Scientists, a left-leaning environmental group, and various university-based scientists.
“New research from UNH’s Climate Change Research Center’s Cameron Wake and his former graduate student Elizabeth Burakowski confirms what anyone enjoying today’s balmy temperatures might suspect: In the northeast, winters are indeed getting warmer. The duo conducted the most rigorous analysis to date of wintertime climate data in the northeastern U.S. from 1965 to 2005 and published their work recently in the Journal of Geophysical Research – Atmospheres.”
“Winter is warming faster than any other season and what we’re seeing over time is an intensification of this warming trend,” says Burakowski.
–2008, Discovering Sustainability, Dec. 10
“Why are winters warming up so much faster over Northern Hemisphere continents than over the rest of the globe? A new study by NASA researchers in the June 3 issue of the journal Nature is the first to link the well-documented large degree of North America and Eurasia winter warming and the associated wind changes to rising greenhouse gas levels in the atmosphere.”
–1999, NASA GISS
“Global warming will cause major changes to the climate of the U.S. Northeast if greenhouse gas emissions are not reduced, scientists said today. Warmer annual temperatures, less snow, more frequent droughts and more extreme rainstorms are expected if current warming trends continue, the scientists said in a new study, and time is running out for action to avoid such changes to the climate.”
— 2006 Northeast Climate Impacts Assessment, a collaboration between the Union of Concerned Scientists, a left-leaning environmental group, and various university-based scientists.
“New research from UNH’s Climate Change Research Center’s Cameron Wake and his former graduate student Elizabeth Burakowski confirms what anyone enjoying today’s balmy temperatures might suspect: In the northeast, winters are indeed getting warmer. The duo conducted the most rigorous analysis to date of wintertime climate data in the northeastern U.S. from 1965 to 2005 and published their work recently in the Journal of Geophysical Research – Atmospheres.”
“Winter is warming faster than any other season and what we’re seeing over time is an intensification of this warming trend,” says Burakowski.
–2008, Discovering Sustainability, Dec. 10
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COLDER:
“A warmer Arctic climate is influencing the air pressure at the North Pole and shifting wind patterns on our planet. We can expect more cold and snowy winters in Europe, eastern Asia and eastern North America.
” ‘Cold and snowy winters will be the rule, rather than the exception,’ says Dr James Overland of the NOAA/Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory in the United States. Dr Overland is at the International Polar Year Oslo Science Conference (IPY-OSC) to chair a session on polar climate feedbacks, amplification and teleconnections, including impacts on mid-latitudes.”
– 2010, Science Daily, June 15
“That is why the Eastern United States, Northern Europe and East Asia have experienced extraordinarily snowy and cold winters since the turn of this century. Most forecasts have failed to predict these colder winters, however, because the primary drivers in their models are the oceans, which have been warming even as winters have grown chillier. They have ignored the snow in Siberia . . . The reality is, we’re freezing not in spite of climate change but because of it.“
– 2010, Judah Cohen, director of seasonal forecasting at Atmospheric and Environmental Research (AER), writing in the Dec. 25 New York Times.
“The overall warming of Earth’s northern half could result in cold winters, new research shows. The shrinking of sea-ice in the eastern Arctic causes some regional heating of the lower levels of air — which may lead to strong anomalies in atmospheric airstreams, triggering an overall cooling of the northern continents, according to a study recently published in the Journal of Geophysical Research.”
2010, Science Daily, Dec. 17
“Europe’s cold winters and the warmth of the planet as a whole might even be linked. There is some evidence that the summer heat stored in the newly ice-free seas north of Siberia may induce shifts in the atmosphere’s circulation, when the heat is given up to the air in subsequent autumns and winters. Those shifts might in turn encourage seasonal patterns in which the Arctic is warm and the continents below it cold, as in early 2010. Since the sea-ice area looks likely to go on shrinking, such a link, if indeed it exists, would probably mean more cold winters in Britain and much of Europe.”
– 2010, The Economist, Dec. 2.
“But while piles of snow blocking your driveway hardly conjure images of a dangerously warming world, it doesn’t mean that climate change is a myth. The World Meteorological Organization recently reported that 2010 is almost certainly going to be one of the three warmest years on record, while 2001 to 2010 is already the hottest decade in recorded history. Indeed, according to some scientists, all of these events may actually be connected.
“One theory is that a warmer Arctic may actually lead to colder and snowier winters in the northern mid-latitudes. Even as countries like Britain — suffering through the coldest December on record — deal with low temperatures and unusual snow, the Arctic has kept on warming, with Greenland and Arctic Canada experiencing the hottest year on record.“
– 2010 Bryan Walsh, Time magazine
“A warmer Arctic climate is influencing the air pressure at the North Pole and shifting wind patterns on our planet. We can expect more cold and snowy winters in Europe, eastern Asia and eastern North America.
” ‘Cold and snowy winters will be the rule, rather than the exception,’ says Dr James Overland of the NOAA/Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory in the United States. Dr Overland is at the International Polar Year Oslo Science Conference (IPY-OSC) to chair a session on polar climate feedbacks, amplification and teleconnections, including impacts on mid-latitudes.”
– 2010, Science Daily, June 15
“That is why the Eastern United States, Northern Europe and East Asia have experienced extraordinarily snowy and cold winters since the turn of this century. Most forecasts have failed to predict these colder winters, however, because the primary drivers in their models are the oceans, which have been warming even as winters have grown chillier. They have ignored the snow in Siberia . . . The reality is, we’re freezing not in spite of climate change but because of it.“
– 2010, Judah Cohen, director of seasonal forecasting at Atmospheric and Environmental Research (AER), writing in the Dec. 25 New York Times.
“The overall warming of Earth’s northern half could result in cold winters, new research shows. The shrinking of sea-ice in the eastern Arctic causes some regional heating of the lower levels of air — which may lead to strong anomalies in atmospheric airstreams, triggering an overall cooling of the northern continents, according to a study recently published in the Journal of Geophysical Research.”
2010, Science Daily, Dec. 17
“Europe’s cold winters and the warmth of the planet as a whole might even be linked. There is some evidence that the summer heat stored in the newly ice-free seas north of Siberia may induce shifts in the atmosphere’s circulation, when the heat is given up to the air in subsequent autumns and winters. Those shifts might in turn encourage seasonal patterns in which the Arctic is warm and the continents below it cold, as in early 2010. Since the sea-ice area looks likely to go on shrinking, such a link, if indeed it exists, would probably mean more cold winters in Britain and much of Europe.”
– 2010, The Economist, Dec. 2.
“But while piles of snow blocking your driveway hardly conjure images of a dangerously warming world, it doesn’t mean that climate change is a myth. The World Meteorological Organization recently reported that 2010 is almost certainly going to be one of the three warmest years on record, while 2001 to 2010 is already the hottest decade in recorded history. Indeed, according to some scientists, all of these events may actually be connected.
“One theory is that a warmer Arctic may actually lead to colder and snowier winters in the northern mid-latitudes. Even as countries like Britain — suffering through the coldest December on record — deal with low temperatures and unusual snow, the Arctic has kept on warming, with Greenland and Arctic Canada experiencing the hottest year on record.“
– 2010 Bryan Walsh, Time magazine
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I think climate deniers should be dumped into the ocean with the rest of the toxic waste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd-hb2xzvZII think climate deniers should be dumped into the ocean with the rest of the toxic waste.
apparently i'm not very smart because im not seeing the connection. can you explain to me what this video has to do with his comment?
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I think climate deniers should be dumped into the ocean with the rest of the toxic waste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd-hb2xzvZII think climate deniers should be dumped into the ocean with the rest of the toxic waste.
apparently i'm not very smart because im not seeing the connection. can you explain to me what this video has to do with his comment?
I read it as a very subtle way of saying Beliathon is a special snowflake...
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I think climate deniers should be dumped into the ocean with the rest of the toxic waste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd-hb2xzvZII think climate deniers should be dumped into the ocean with the rest of the toxic waste.
apparently i'm not very smart because im not seeing the connection. can you explain to me what this video has to do with his comment?
Flashback: Meteorologist Anthony Watts on ‘adjusted’ U.S. temperature data: ‘In the business and trading world, people go to jail for such manipulations of data’
Flashback: Climatologist Dr. Pat Michaels: ‘The raw temperature data is continually adjusted to show more warming’ - PATRICK J. MICHAELS and PAUL C. “CHIP” KNAPPENBERGER: U.S. temperature ‘history has been repeatedly “revised” to either make temperatures colder in the earlier years or warmer at the end’ -‘A major and ongoing federal effort has been to try and cram these numbers into the box imposed by the theory that gives the government the most power—i.e., strong global warming.’ - ‘Please be advised that this history has been repeatedly “revised” to either make temperatures colder in the earlier years or warmer at the end. Not one “adjustment” has the opposite effect, a clear contravention of logic and probability. While the US has gotten slightly warmer in recent decades, compared to the early 20th century, so have the data themselves. It’s a fact that if you just take all the thousands of fairly evenly-spaced “official” weather stations around the country and average them up since 1895, that you won’t get much of a warming trend at all. Consequently a major and ongoing federal effort has been to try and cram these numbers into the box imposed by the theory that gives the government the most power—i.e., strong global warming.’
http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/01/10/meteorologist-anthony-watts-on-adjusted-us-temperature-data-in-the-business-and-trading-world-people-go-to-jail-for-such-manipulations-of-data/
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I think climate deniers should be dumped into the ocean with the rest of the toxic waste.
I think climate deniers should be dumped into the ocean with the rest of the toxic waste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd-hb2xzvZI
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I think climate deniers should be dumped into the ocean with the rest of the toxic waste.
I think climate deniers should be dumped into the ocean with the rest of the toxic waste.
This is such a blatantly, offensively SEXIST thing you have posted.
This is such a blatantly, offensively SEXIST thing you have posted.
This is such a blatantly, offensively SEXIST thing you have posted.
waow no kidding
The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever
New data shows that the “vanishing” of polar ice is not the result of runaway global warming
When future generations look back on the global-warming scare of the past 30 years, nothing will shock them more than the extent to which the official temperature records – on which the entire panic ultimately rested – were systematically “adjusted” to show the Earth as having warmed much more than the actual data justified.
Two weeks ago, under the headline “How we are being tricked by flawed data on global warming”, I wrote about Paul Homewood, who, on his Notalotofpeopleknowthat blog, had checked the published temperature graphs for three weather stations in Paraguay against the temperatures that had originally been recorded. In each instance, the actual trend of 60 years of data had been dramatically reversed, so that a cooling trend was changed to one that showed a marked warming.
This was only the latest of many examples of a practice long recognised by expert observers around the world – one that raises an ever larger question mark over the entire official surface-temperature record.
Following my last article, Homewood checked a swathe of other South American weather stations around the original three. In each case he found the same suspicious one-way “adjustments”. First these were made by the US government’s Global Historical Climate Network (GHCN). They were then amplified by two of the main official surface records, the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (Giss) and the National Climate Data Center (NCDC), which use the warming trends to estimate temperatures across the vast regions of the Earth where no measurements are taken. Yet these are the very records on which scientists and politicians rely for their belief in “global warming”.
Homewood has now turned his attention to the weather stations across much of the Arctic, between Canada (51 degrees W) and the heart of Siberia (87 degrees E). Again, in nearly every case, the same one-way adjustments have been made, to show warming up to 1 degree C or more higher than was indicated by the data that was actually recorded. This has surprised no one more than Traust Jonsson, who was long in charge of climate research for the Iceland met office (and with whom Homewood has been in touch). Jonsson was amazed to see how the new version completely “disappears” Iceland’s “sea ice years” around 1970, when a period of extreme cooling almost devastated his country’s economy.
One of the first examples of these “adjustments” was exposed in 2007 by the statistician Steve McIntyre, when he discovered a paper published in 1987 by James Hansen, the scientist (later turned fanatical climate activist) who for many years ran Giss. Hansen’s original graph showed temperatures in the Arctic as having been much higher around 1940 than at any time since. But as Homewood reveals in his blog post, “Temperature adjustments transform Arctic history”, Giss has turned this upside down. Arctic temperatures from that time have been lowered so much that that they are now dwarfed by those of the past 20 years.
Homewood’s interest in the Arctic is partly because the “vanishing” of its polar ice (and the polar bears) has become such a poster-child for those trying to persuade us that we are threatened by runaway warming. But he chose that particular stretch of the Arctic because it is where ice is affected by warmer water brought in by cyclical shifts in a major Atlantic current – this last peaked at just the time 75 years ago when Arctic ice retreated even further than it has done recently. The ice-melt is not caused by rising global temperatures at all.
Of much more serious significance, however, is the way this wholesale manipulation of the official temperature record – for reasons GHCN and Giss have never plausibly explained – has become the real elephant in the room of the greatest and most costly scare the world has known. This really does begin to look like one of the greatest scientific scandals of all time.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html
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For the 97%ers warmists, this sounds like the.....
*** fix your quote *** before someone else re quotes it again and again.
The guy has a point that I would not be totally adverse to getting credit for. Accd to the chart of the last 5 or so ice-age cycles, going back into one seems more likely than having significant up-side, but (and there is always a 'but'), we are looking at huge time scales here. On those scales it looks like sharp drop-offs into an ice-age, but in reality they take thousands of years.
The next ice-age will 'damage' the ecosystem worse than most rational people's conception of a realistic further global warming and will result in many displacements and losses of species as have prior relatively rapid changes. There is, however, a very strong hypothesis that these cycles have been a major motivating force in increasing the rate of the generation of new species as adaptations are particularly valuable in such times of rapid climate change.
As long as you do not mind and there is no drama then I personally do not mind.
Yes it makes sense mankind should stop wasting time and be prepared for whatever nature is going to throw at us, just like in the past.
An ice age is coming? Anti freeze lipsticks could be the next big thing then
*** fix your quote *** before someone else re quotes it again and again.
The guy has a point that I would not be totally adverse to getting credit for. Accd to the chart of the last 5 or so ice-age cycles, going back into one seems more likely than having significant up-side, but (and there is always a 'but'), we are looking at huge time scales here. On those scales it looks like sharp drop-offs into an ice-age, but in reality they take thousands of years.
The next ice-age will 'damage' the ecosystem worse than most rational people's conception of a realistic further global warming and will result in many displacements and losses of species as have prior relatively rapid changes. There is, however, a very strong hypothesis that these cycles have been a major motivating force in increasing the rate of the generation of new species as adaptations are particularly valuable in such times of rapid climate change.
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