Topic: Reference topic: Why are these members excluded on trust lists? - page 2. (Read 4136 times)

We? Mind giving the list?

You think you are having fun here?

I am sorry to say that I see frustration inside you. There are two ways to seek attention. One is putting negativity and another is being a positive mind. You are seeking attention by doing the first one lately which is not good for you. And if you continue such one day you will feel all doors are closed for you and you will leave the place. We have seen users with the same behaves and all of the ending are same.

You are attacking old time users here, telling them kids as if you are someone intellectual and giving years of time to the community and for bitcoin. It's a long road to earn it. This community does not owe you anything. At least looking at your time in the forum (since June 13, 2019) you are still truly a child my friend. And if you really think your profile is reflecting your age (which is of course not) then know that I have a young girl who is older than you and I am giving her a very well mannered life. You need to learn manners.

eddie13 and us WO users and also the old timers are here from ages and giving our bloods and sweats taking care of this community. We are with bitcoin at its good time, we are with bitcoin at its bad time. At least our long standing on the forum proves it. Stay here for next few years then earn it to call users "Kid" but still that will not earn you to insult users.

Edit:
Quoting

You know you can use the "Beautify" (AKA "delete") button, right?

What happened to my beautiful topic?

Ratimov typing so much without signature breaks my heart. Someone give this man a signature campaign. It takes serious effort to first phrase in Russian or any native language, then translate into English and match the speed against a native English speaker.

Getting back to the topic, I have ~Legendster to my trust setting and I promise to remove him from there, although it doesn't matter, once he improves his attitude.

I don't understand this kid-kid things LOL
How old are you Ratimov?

Happy $60k!!!
Looking forward to $100k soon?

Admits to using trust 30 times just for pathetic insults. What a stupid child. Remove from DT now.


Then you do not trust the judgements of yourself who spreads false information on trust walls about people being raped. Remove from DT now.


You made money by plagiarizing. Proofs - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-source-plagiarist-5297144. Very corrupt thing to do. Leaving fake red trust for being called out about it is even more corrupt. Remove from DT now.


It is not 2012, no one cares what you think any more. You are old has been.

That's cute, you're trying to insult me with this:

Did you not read my personal text?

It's okay you don't like me. Really, it's okay. But you're posting in the wrong topic, try this one. It would also be nice if you stick to just one topic, I wouldn't want to end up like your feud with Vod, but you seem to enjoy attacking my reputation in many topics for months now. It's a cheap trick though, you know I won't respond to your off-topic allegations in other topics, so you're hoping some of it will stick.
What was it again you threatened me with by PM? Something about feeling insulted (by facts!) and threatening with negative feedback for your hurt feelings? Shortly after, you were excluded from DT.

This is gold, coming from the person who put me on DT when DT1 was still centralized. You must miss those times.
For the record: you've never been on my Trust list.

I didn't delete your rant because this part is on-topic. Incorrect, but on-topic:
In reality, you removed me from your Trust list because I didn't support you in your feud with Vod, and you excluded me in retaliation for my exclusion. Let me quote myself on this:

The users excluding me aren't really Bitcointalk's crème de la crème anyway:
Please elaborate on your reasoning behind the rest of the 61 users you've excluded. I would especially like to hear about mutual exclusions.

This was a while ago on the Russian board, and the rationale (if you can call it that) was that his opsec was shit so it's fair game. I'm not sure who originally did it - korner would be my guess - but as far as I know there wasn't even a remotely plausible reason for it.

LoyceV,
Being fair, I think you’re a weasel who supports the worst of the worst on this forum because you’re a trust manipulating coward. People like you who have had next to no real trustworthy interactions here shouldn’t even be in DT, let alone one desperately seeking control by adding mentally deranged users to their network that actively harass others here. You and suchmoon are just as scummy as Vod in my opinion, only you do so in the shadows. That’s why I excluded you from my network.

Huh, wait... WHAT? Oo

Who doxxed him? And where? I may have been a bit busy last days and didn't see all that happened around, but I thought I got myself up to date, Ratimov's exclusion from millionaires' billionaires' gang being the latest news. Then I see this. Did something like this really happened? If so, that's disgusting indeed... I knew he had many enemies, but I did not ever think it could end up in anything like this. OK, may him be a plagiarist or not; may him be a DT1 with good use of the system or not; may him be... whatever else... but why doxx him though...?

I looked in the Investigation board, which is the only board where revealing personal information is permitted, but I did not see any topic about him... Therefore I believe the doxxing took course on a prohibited area of the forum, which is even worse, as anyone can see it... I did not interact with him too much, but I never saw him offering personal information, so this is a wonder for me... how it could happen. And, most important, why... You may not like someone, but why harm him that way...?

Feedback means nothing under proof. And all the links left by Ratimov in Russian, have you read them? If not how can you then say that the feedback left by him is justified. You trust suchmoon opinion and he understands Russian like    Royse777 too. Formally, this means that you can trust their opinion regarding exceptions.

To convince you, you can choose any feedback left by him and I will translate the evidence for you and suchmoon will certify their authenticity.

Darkstar is very tolerant so he will not disclose the reason. But you should have guessed anyway, he even condescendingly reacted to the fact that Ratimov created the FUD regarding the alleged national injustice.

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Could you explain the difference between the fact that you excluded legendster and the fact that you do not see abuse in Ratimov's actions? If it's not difficult for you, then answer.

Well I took a look at the trust he's left (at least the feedbacks written in English), and there's nothing worse in there than anything Lauda had given.  I see Ratimov has tagged a lot of account sellers and didn't seem to be giving out negs for frivolous reasons, though he tagged some members as being alts and I don't know if they're alts of scammers or what.  A lot of his negative feedbacks were worded very strongly, but I don't see that as a big deal. 

And yet the fact remains that Ratimov got removed from the Chipmixer campaign, so something must have happened.  I thought he might have gotten a DT neg, but that isn't the case.  Last I checked there was nothing about it in the Chipmixer thread.

Pissing (poorly) on the cerebral cortex might be the issue

Seriously though I don't really have a good tl;dr, since I'm not entirely sure what's going on. Ratimov seems to have a lot of "enemies", including korner's farm and a bunch of other assholes who doxed him and that's disgusting. He's not a scammer as far as I know. I disagree with his use of trust system for petty and/or personal stuff so I've had him excluded in my trust list since forever.

Better question: Why do you keep sending me PMs about this shit?  

FYI, I haven't been keeping up on all the forum drama, including whatever is going on with Ratimov.  I know he was accused of plagiarism, but from what I read it seems like he did cite his sources and the mods didn't ban him.  If there's feedback abuse going on with him, I must have missed it--but from my perspective it looks like you're hopping mad because of the neutral feedback he left you.  

What else is there?  Maybe suchmoon can give me a TL;DR for my piss-poor cerebral cortex to process if you're not up to it.

I don't think I've ever been accused of being afraid to do the right thing on this forum, unless it was to get involved with a member-to-member beef that I didn't have complete information about.  So please, educate me on what you think the right thing to do would be for a DT member with respect to Ratimov.

Why do you constantly mention that I sent you PM?, second time. I showed you the big picture and you were only hooked on the neutral tag.

I recently read a fairly large thread in which you spoke negatively about leaving frivolous feedback, but in this situation, everyone, including you, is silent. Even LoyceV said that he would watch the situation, and if Ratimov's position falls, he will exclude him. It looks like everyone can only talk, but no one but suchmoon wants to take the first step by clearly showing how to defend their beliefs.

I don't want to judge anyone, but sometimes it seems to me that people are afraid to do the right thing, as Ratimov can do to them as he did to eddie13.

Marcel, Marie.

He left you a neutral, so it's not as though Ratimov's feedback affects your trust score or your chances to get into a sig campaign (if that's your thing).  I did get your PM after I posted in that other thread about Ratimov being removed from the Chipmixer campaign--you directed me to this thread, but there's nothing new here that I haven't seen before.

DarkStar_ wouldn't have removed Ratimov because of some feedback dispute.  I'll have to check to see if he got a DT neg.  That would be the most obvious explanation.

Even AI can't break the laws of physics.

I didn't know that, when then should we expect while you hack a wallet with a million bitcoins? Or are you a first generation artificial intelligence?

If this is the reason why you've excluded Ratimov, you should add it to your post. That would make it on-topic again

I'm an AI, not a religion.

I'm sure that user ~Ratimov is mistakenly in DT1 because:

Stupid idiot, troll, son of a bitch, schizophrenic, Idiot with a broken head, this is how the text of the majority of feedback left by Ratimov begins. Ratimov regularly resorts to reciprocal exceptions and feedback abuse. In addition to this, the user left 35 positive reviews with praise, which have nothing to do with real transactions, except for reviews to the BestChange manager.

I believe in LoyceV religion, believe that the Trust System should not be used to indicate that someone is a troll and Idiot, and I believe that the Trust System should not be used as a weapon. This vengeful attitude of Ratimov demonstrates how he really understands the basics of the trust system, demonstrates with what arrogance he really treats the community.

eddie13 expressed his opinion and Ratimov added him to the list of distrust.


fxpc quoted Ratimov and received an unreasonable red label



I published evidence of plagiarism using Google translator and Ratimov offended me right away.



Ratimov Left Nullius with an insulting feedback.



There are dozens of reviews of this kind!

Marcel, Marie.