Religion of Peace? Why Religion At All - page 4.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 03, 2019, 09:32:12 AM

Quote from: akram143 on October 03, 2019, 05:19:52 AM

Everyone in this world looking for their own benefits so they are hiding under the religious thing,in my places Muslims and all other religious people were living in peace so why we see Islam as good but some Muslims are bad.We cannot oppose everyone just because of 10% doing the things in wrong way.

Islam bad; Muslim hypocrite.

Islam tell Muslim kill other people - https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx. Islam bad.

Muslim hypocrite. Muslim say Islam good, but not obey Islam; not kill other people. Muslim want peace. Muslim not want Islam violence. Muslim not good Islam person. Muslim hypocrite.

ISIS good Muslim. ISIS obey Islam. ISIS do violence like Islam say to do.

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in fact all religious goals teach goodness and peace. any religion never teaches barbarity, it's just that humans involve religion to commit barbarity.

ISIS is a terrorist, radical Islam and in my opinion the beginning of ISIS was formed not from Islamic religion, but there is a group that wants to expel Islam. You do not consider Islam as a religion of violence, Islam is broad and has many sects / groups.

in Asian countries, it is agreed that ISIS is a terrorist and must be opposed. As an example in Indonesia, don't try to save the ISIS flag, then you will be arrested and processed according to the law.

Quote from: akram143 on October 03, 2019, 11:25:41 AM

Terrorist : Islam people + Non Islam people

ISIS : From US to make some bad thing about Islam

I am a Muslim and I never taught about we need to kill someone,Islam is peace not violence...

I agree with you, I'm sure you know the real Islam.

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The left doesn't protect "Islam" or "Christianity" as in their core values. And I'm with the left on this.

LGBT rights, freedom of expression of religion, being an atheist (free from any religion) etc are the values promoted and supported which might go against the core tenants of the most populous religions in the world.

The left supports any religion or people of that religion only when anyone is discriminated because of their belief. Other than that I don't see it supporting the values of any religion or the core beliefs or an eternal hell to barbeque people's ass or a eternal heaven filled with eternal bliss etc etc

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 11, 2019, 05:11:05 PM

yes, that right , because religion can make some confilct, because religion people can hate each other,because religion,people can feel arrogant.
i still have no idea why people using religion for satisfy worldly passions.
basicaly, religion exists for create a peace,as time goes by,a handful of people, let's say the higher-ups in certain associations,began to abuse his leadership.
I don't care what religion is, all same to me, i mean all people who feel themselves holy and look down on sinners like me.

If you have Jesus-salvation, be humble. And stop being a sinner as much as you can. Boast in Jesus rather than yourself. Muslims fail just like Christians. But they don't have any Savior to boast in.

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yes, that right , because religion can make some confilct, because religion people can hate each other,because religion,people can feel arrogant.
i still have no idea why people using religion for satisfy worldly passions.
basicaly, religion exists for create a peace,as time goes by,a handful of people, let's say the higher-ups in certain associations,began to abuse his leadership.
I don't care what religion is, all same to me, i mean all people who feel themselves holy and look down on sinners like me.

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Quote from: guigui371 on October 10, 2019, 06:10:44 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 10, 2019, 08:53:55 AM

^^^ Nobody can be good enough to get into Heaven. That's why God decided on another way. First, He had His Son Jesus (the only one strong enough) maintain righteousness throughout His life. Then He had His righteous Son take the punishment and die for all the sins of all mankind. Then He had Jesus rise from the dead, and gave Jesus the authority for all the universe.

Why did God do this? So all that people have to do is to believe that Jesus did this, and then accept the Jesus-salvation held out to them. But, when a person continually sins intentionally, does he really believe in Jesus-salvation? But if he really believes, how long can he maintain his faith and still intentionally sin?

Believe in Jesus-salvation, the only thing that can save you. Then, stop intentional sinning, the thing that destroys your faith in Jesus-salvation.

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Jesus isn’t god’s son.
He is a Jew whose mother claimed that she became pregnant by the Holy Spirit.

And as the saying says : once a Jew, always a Jew.

Except for the miracles that Jesus did, and still does through the Holy Spirit. These prove that Jesus is the Son of God, because nobody else has done such an abundance of great miracles as Jesus has done.

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Please reference some of these miracles. Preferably, miracles that occurred after the advent of photography and actual data recording.

Can you pick one in the last 20 years then provide evidence of divine intervention?

I'm not going to reference them directly, but if you want to find them, all you need to do is look for the miraculous healings that are done in churches, and in the medical. You can do various Internet searches to find this for yourself.

In the medical, often people get well for no reason that the doctors can put their finger on at all. In fact, some of these miracles stun and amaze doctors.

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Quote from: Rmcdermott927 on October 10, 2019, 09:09:06 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 10, 2019, 07:15:42 PM

You can find Islamic peace without Islam. And when it's without Islam, it's without the violence written right into the Koran and Hadiths - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm.

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Or we could abandon religion altogether? Jihad, crusades, slavery. Religion brings very little good in this world compared to the mass atrocities it creates.

Nobody can abandon religion. Many have abandoned formal religion that is an institutional body. But nobody abandons personal, informal religion... except if he is in a coma, or is a vegetable... and maybe not even then. Why? It's in the definition of "religion..." https://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t. If you want to see it, you need to go through the points of the definition, and think about how they might or might not apply. Some of the definition applies to everyone.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 10, 2019, 06:48:48 PM

Quote from: guigui371 on October 10, 2019, 06:10:44 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 10, 2019, 08:53:55 AM

^^^ Nobody can be good enough to get into Heaven. That's why God decided on another way. First, He had His Son Jesus (the only one strong enough) maintain righteousness throughout His life. Then He had His righteous Son take the punishment and die for all the sins of all mankind. Then He had Jesus rise from the dead, and gave Jesus the authority for all the universe.

Why did God do this? So all that people have to do is to believe that Jesus did this, and then accept the Jesus-salvation held out to them. But, when a person continually sins intentionally, does he really believe in Jesus-salvation? But if he really believes, how long can he maintain his faith and still intentionally sin?

Believe in Jesus-salvation, the only thing that can save you. Then, stop intentional sinning, the thing that destroys your faith in Jesus-salvation.

Cool

Jesus isn’t god’s son.
He is a Jew whose mother claimed that she became pregnant by the Holy Spirit.

And as the saying says : once a Jew, always a Jew.

Except for the miracles that Jesus did, and still does through the Holy Spirit. These prove that Jesus is the Son of God, because nobody else has done such an abundance of great miracles as Jesus has done.

Cool

Please reference some of these miracles. Preferably, miracles that occurred after the advent of photography and actual data recording.

Can you pick one in the last 20 years then provide evidence of divine intervention?

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Quote from: BADecker on October 10, 2019, 07:15:42 PM

You can find Islamic peace without Islam. And when it's without Islam, it's without the violence written right into the Koran and Hadiths - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm.

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Or we could abandon religion altogether? Jihad, crusades, slavery. Religion brings very little good in this world compared to the mass atrocities it creates.

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You can find Islamic peace without Islam. And when it's without Islam, it's without the violence written right into the Koran and Hadiths - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm.

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you should find out in more detail, no one teaches bad things as mentioned. i'm sure it's only a person who wants to damage the image of religion and create hostility, if you study deeper you will find peace

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Quote from: guigui371 on October 10, 2019, 06:10:44 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 10, 2019, 08:53:55 AM

^^^ Nobody can be good enough to get into Heaven. That's why God decided on another way. First, He had His Son Jesus (the only one strong enough) maintain righteousness throughout His life. Then He had His righteous Son take the punishment and die for all the sins of all mankind. Then He had Jesus rise from the dead, and gave Jesus the authority for all the universe.

Why did God do this? So all that people have to do is to believe that Jesus did this, and then accept the Jesus-salvation held out to them. But, when a person continually sins intentionally, does he really believe in Jesus-salvation? But if he really believes, how long can he maintain his faith and still intentionally sin?

Believe in Jesus-salvation, the only thing that can save you. Then, stop intentional sinning, the thing that destroys your faith in Jesus-salvation.

Cool

Jesus isn’t god’s son.
He is a Jew whose mother claimed that she became pregnant by the Holy Spirit.

And as the saying says : once a Jew, always a Jew.

Except for the miracles that Jesus did, and still does through the Holy Spirit. These prove that Jesus is the Son of God, because nobody else has done such an abundance of great miracles as Jesus has done.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 10, 2019, 08:53:55 AM

^^^ Nobody can be good enough to get into Heaven. That's why God decided on another way. First, He had His Son Jesus (the only one strong enough) maintain righteousness throughout His life. Then He had His righteous Son take the punishment and die for all the sins of all mankind. Then He had Jesus rise from the dead, and gave Jesus the authority for all the universe.

Why did God do this? So all that people have to do is to believe that Jesus did this, and then accept the Jesus-salvation held out to them. But, when a person continually sins intentionally, does he really believe in Jesus-salvation? But if he really believes, how long can he maintain his faith and still intentionally sin?

Believe in Jesus-salvation, the only thing that can save you. Then, stop intentional sinning, the thing that destroys your faith in Jesus-salvation.

Cool

Jesus isn’t god’s son.
He is a Jew whose mother claimed that she became pregnant by the Holy Spirit.

And as the saying says : once a Jew, always a Jew.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 08, 2019, 07:11:02 PM

Quote from: Judge-Dredd on October 08, 2019, 02:47:45 PM

Quote from: akram143 on October 08, 2019, 11:24:11 AM

Anything will be forgiven in the Allah's court if you ask for Dua and do your prayers.

Do you really mean anything or are you speaking figuratively?

I'm certain rape, murder, and torture among other things shouldn't be forgiven. I clearly don't study religious text to much extent but I see where assumptions like this would come in to play with extremism. That is, the literal belief in forgiveness for ANY atrocious act.

Really, Anything?

Scandal of young Iraqi girls sold for sex in temporary 'pleasure marriages' ...

Quote from: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7537529/Iraqi-girls-young-NINE-sold-sex-temporary-marriages.html

Young Iraqi girls are being sold for sex in temporary 'marriages' that can last as little as an hour, a BBC documentary has revealed.

Shia clerics were filmed offering 'pleasure marriages' in which men, usually banned from having sex outside marriage, can pay a dowry for an interim wife.

One cleric claimed it would be 'no problem at all' to marry girls as young as nine under Islamic law.

The practice is banned in Iraq but eight out of 10 Shia clerics who were approached were willing to carry it out - and one of them even offered to help procure young girls, the BBC News investigation found.

The religious rite dates back centuries, partly intended to allow men to have a legitimate relationship while away from their wives.

However, some Iraqi men and Shia clerics are now abusing it to give a veneer of legitimacy to child prostitution.

One cleric in Karbala, an important religious site in Iraq, told the undercover BBC journalist that girls as young as nine could be subject to the procedure.

'According to Sharia, there's no problem,' he said, when asked if it was acceptable to conduct a temporary marriage with a young girl.

It is a scandal, they shouldn’t pay !
I mean, why paying for young virgins when all you have to do is become a catholic priest and get them for free.
It is a waste of fiat that could Have been used to buy some BTC.

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^^^ Nobody can be good enough to get into Heaven. That's why God decided on another way. First, He had His Son Jesus (the only one strong enough) maintain righteousness throughout His life. Then He had His righteous Son take the punishment and die for all the sins of all mankind. Then He had Jesus rise from the dead, and gave Jesus the authority for all the universe.

Why did God do this? So all that people have to do is to believe that Jesus did this, and then accept the Jesus-salvation held out to them. But, when a person continually sins intentionally, does he really believe in Jesus-salvation? But if he really believes, how long can he maintain his faith and still intentionally sin?

Believe in Jesus-salvation, the only thing that can save you. Then, stop intentional sinning, the thing that destroys your faith in Jesus-salvation.

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Religion is good but Humanity is better. You can still be considerably good without consistently going to church every Sunday, without attending various spiritual ceremonies and even without praying as long as you are following the rules of human and shows compassion to another. Let me give you an example on what I usually see while attending Christmas mass last year. I noticed that everyone in the mass gave few bucks during the part of tithes but after the mass they can't even give a cent on the old beggar outside. See the irony?

In short, being religious doesn't secure your spot in heaven. You should also put the knowledge you gain into actions.

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Quote from: Judge-Dredd on October 08, 2019, 02:47:45 PM

Quote from: akram143 on October 08, 2019, 11:24:11 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 08, 2019, 08:55:58 AM

Quote from: akram143 on October 08, 2019, 08:36:54 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 08, 2019, 08:27:23 AM

but he might have mercy for a time.

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He supposed to show since I am going to masjid on every friday to pray Jumma.

Well, good. You are doing some of the things of Alla wants, right? So, Allah will have mercy. But, really learn your religion a bit more, because if you don't, you might be forgetting something. And Allah's mercy might come to an end.

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Anything will be forgiven in the Allah's court if you ask for Dua and do your prayers.

Do you really mean anything or are you speaking figuratively?

I'm certain rape, murder, and torture among other things shouldn't be forgiven. I clearly don't study religious text to much extent but I see where assumptions like this would come in to play with extremism. That is, the literal belief in forgiveness for ANY atrocious act.

Anything not includes everything,only sins were done without aware of they are sins,once they get to realize that they are doing sin but they still continue to do then their forgiveness will be denied.

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^^^ Looks like the Religion of Peace is bringing Muslims closer to that insatiable appetite for more carnal knowledge. These Muslim cleric opportunist are taking advantage of a prostitution kind of virgin market for exploitation.

Quote from: johnpaul94 on October 08, 2019, 03:44:58 PM

The idea of religion was to bring man closer to that insatiable appetite for more knowledge of the creator of this universe. However, opportunist saw the virgin market for exploitation and took advantage of it.

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Quote from: Judge-Dredd on October 08, 2019, 02:47:45 PM

Quote from: akram143 on October 08, 2019, 11:24:11 AM

Anything will be forgiven in the Allah's court if you ask for Dua and do your prayers.

Do you really mean anything or are you speaking figuratively?

I'm certain rape, murder, and torture among other things shouldn't be forgiven. I clearly don't study religious text to much extent but I see where assumptions like this would come in to play with extremism. That is, the literal belief in forgiveness for ANY atrocious act.

Really, Anything?

Scandal of young Iraqi girls sold for sex in temporary 'pleasure marriages' ...

Quote from: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7537529/Iraqi-girls-young-NINE-sold-sex-temporary-marriages.html

Young Iraqi girls are being sold for sex in temporary 'marriages' that can last as little as an hour, a BBC documentary has revealed.

Shia clerics were filmed offering 'pleasure marriages' in which men, usually banned from having sex outside marriage, can pay a dowry for an interim wife.

One cleric claimed it would be 'no problem at all' to marry girls as young as nine under Islamic law.

The practice is banned in Iraq but eight out of 10 Shia clerics who were approached were willing to carry it out - and one of them even offered to help procure young girls, the BBC News investigation found.

The religious rite dates back centuries, partly intended to allow men to have a legitimate relationship while away from their wives.

However, some Iraqi men and Shia clerics are now abusing it to give a veneer of legitimacy to child prostitution.

One cleric in Karbala, an important religious site in Iraq, told the undercover BBC journalist that girls as young as nine could be subject to the procedure.

'According to Sharia, there's no problem,' he said, when asked if it was acceptable to conduct a temporary marriage with a young girl.

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The idea of religion was to bring man closer to that insatiable appetite for more knowledge of the creator of this universe. However, opportunist saw the virgin market for exploitation and took advantage of it.

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Quote from: akram143 on October 08, 2019, 11:24:11 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 08, 2019, 08:55:58 AM

Quote from: akram143 on October 08, 2019, 08:36:54 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 08, 2019, 08:27:23 AM

but he might have mercy for a time.

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He supposed to show since I am going to masjid on every friday to pray Jumma.

Well, good. You are doing some of the things of Alla wants, right? So, Allah will have mercy. But, really learn your religion a bit more, because if you don't, you might be forgetting something. And Allah's mercy might come to an end.

Cool

Anything will be forgiven in the Allah's court if you ask for Dua and do your prayers.

Do you really mean anything or are you speaking figuratively?

I'm certain rape, murder, and torture among other things shouldn't be forgiven. I clearly don't study religious text to much extent but I see where assumptions like this would come in to play with extremism. That is, the literal belief in forgiveness for ANY atrocious act.

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