Religion of Peace? Why Religion At All - page 7.

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Islam is RIGHT about women? Grin

I am not believing the life after death but I love few things and hate few things of islamic religion,you may say that they are keeping women as slave but why we cannot say they are protecting them?

Ignore the practices from some Arab countries they are taking the advantages of religion and marrying more women as much as they can but its not really what it meant for the multiple marriages allowed.

It's kind of confusing sometimes since there are several interpretations of islam's teachings. Some moderate muslim can really convince you that islam is not about jihad and hate towards non-believers. I've come across some of these muslims and they're one of the most tolerant group of people i've ever encountered. And then there are the extremists who, as well all know, take the teachings of the Quran way too literally without giving ground.

Everyone in this world looking for their own benefits so they are hiding under the religious thing,in my places Muslims and all other religious people were living in peace so why we see Islam as good but some Muslims are bad.We cannot oppose everyone just because of 10% doing the things in wrong way.

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Quote from: akram143 on October 03, 2019, 02:13:45 AM

Quote from: merchantofzeny on October 02, 2019, 03:14:44 PM

Islam is RIGHT about women? Grin

I am not believing the life after death but I love few things and hate few things of islamic religion,you may say that they are keeping women as slave but why we cannot say they are protecting them?

Ignore the practices from some Arab countries they are taking the advantages of religion and marrying more women as much as they can but its not really what it meant for the multiple marriages allowed.

It's kind of confusing sometimes since there are several interpretations of islam's teachings. Some moderate muslim can really convince you that islam is not about jihad and hate towards non-believers. I've come across some of these muslims and they're one of the most tolerant group of people i've ever encountered. And then there are the extremists who, as well all know, take the teachings of the Quran way too literally without giving ground.

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Quote from: merchantofzeny on October 02, 2019, 03:14:44 PM

Islam is RIGHT about women? Grin

I am not believing the life after death but I love few things and hate few things of islamic religion,you may say that they are keeping women as slave but why we cannot say they are protecting them?

Ignore the practices from some Arab countries they are taking the advantages of religion and marrying more women as much as they can but its not really what it meant for the multiple marriages allowed.

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I don't give much credence to that idea that the majority of those who participate in mass worship have distinct individuality and control over their core religious beliefs.

A common denominator is participation in things like this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakewood_Church

While tithes may be voluntary it's clear where a majority of this money actually goes.

Pick their flavor sure... but they're still suckers.

I won't argue that designs and systems in nature help inspire us to invent and create. To call nature or the universe a machine however... somewhat of a chaotic machine don't you think? One that actually breaks it's own patterns and laws in different situations.

This is something that seems to come naturally to our brains. Seeing patterns and associations where they dont belong. Like a face in a wall outlet, or animals in the clouds.

Here's a question. When you see the results of a devastating natural disaster on social media or a news site and a thousands of people comment "sending prayers", are they really doing anything? Or simply satiating their own desire to "serve" as they perceive it.

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Quote from: Judge-Dredd on October 02, 2019, 09:36:43 PM

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I think you know I meant mass organized religion

While I don't believe in any one of the thousands of proposed sky fairies I do believe something much larger than us created the universe and the laws that (for the most part) govern its existence. This belief does not come with an instructional booklet on how to behave and treat my neighbors.

Yet, in mass organized religion, nobody ever believes or understands quite the same. Why not? Because religion is a personal thing. You are talking about something that doesn't really exist, even though it looks like it does.

I don't know of anyone who believes in sky fairies. Some of the children who hear about Peter Pan might come close by believing about Tinkerbell.

Nobody needs an instructional booklet on how to live. It's simple. Just like you don't want some big, mean, gruff person to damage you, essentially nobody else wants that either. Just like you might like a helping hand now and again, most people would like that, as well. The instruction booklet is simple: Do to others as you would have them do to you. Start by finding out how much they want you to leave them alone.

We make all our machines by through observing natural machinery in nature. The fact of the complex universe made out of machines, proves God. Machines have makers.

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Quote from: merchantofzeny on October 02, 2019, 03:14:44 PM

Islam is RIGHT about women? Grin

I have no answers to why religion is still around but as to why the Left protects Islam over other religions, maybe it's a subconscious want for a strong masculine figure that has slowly been erased in the West? That or the "white guilt" that has been indoctrinated into the masses. Or maybe just virtue signalling, as vegans (which are also most likely Leftists) are wont to do.

Just saw a Jordan Peterson video talk about a woman who find her company's PC stance ridiculous. They want to rename "flipcharts" because it MIGHT be possible offensive to Filipinos.

I think the primary reason it's still around is because many people feel hopeless without it. The fear of what happens after one dies. It's nice to imagine we go somewhere but the only evidence that exists shows that when we die there is nothing. We are a heap of rotting organic matter.

The flipchart reference is ridiculous... it reminds me of the "OK" sign with your hand. Someone, somewhere, somehow declared that making an OK sign with your hand actually represents a white power symbol because you know, you can abstractly see a W and a P when making the hand gesture. Pretty soon breathing will be considered racist.

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I think you know I meant mass organized religion

While I don't believe in any one of the thousands of proposed sky fairies I do believe something much larger than us created the universe and the laws that (for the most part) govern its existence. This belief does not come with an instructional booklet on how to behave and treat my neighbors.

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If a person doesn't have religion, he is dead, in a coma, or a vegetable. Why? Check out the definition of "religion:"

Quote from: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t

religion
[ ri-lij-uh n ]

noun

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:
the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.

3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices:
a world council of religions.

4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.:
to enter religion.

5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.

6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:
to make a religion of fighting prejudice.

religions

7. Archaic. religious rites:
painted priests performing religions deep into the night.

8. Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion:
a religion to one's vow.

Find the one that fits you. If none other, 5 and 6.

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Islam is RIGHT about women? Grin

I have no answers to why religion is still around but as to why the Left protects Islam over other religions, maybe it's a subconscious want for a strong masculine figure that has slowly been erased in the West? That or the "white guilt" that has been indoctrinated into the masses. Or maybe just virtue signalling, as vegans (which are also most likely Leftists) are wont to do.

Just saw a Jordan Peterson video talk about a woman who find her company's PC stance ridiculous. They want to rename "flipcharts" because it MIGHT be possible offensive to Filipinos.

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It's easy in today's world to blame Islam of backwards savagery against women, children, etc. Yet this is still protected by the left?

Why? When at the same time Christianity is under attack in the modern political and social climate. Other than the obvious propagation of pedophilia by the Catholic church, Christians' rape and pillaging days are over for the most part.

Other than instinctual human greed, religion has caused more conflict in human history than anything else. Why do we still need it? Are there any merits left?

I understand a common argument here may be that it instills fear in common folk and helps to provide them a reason to behave but we shouldn't need the fear of deities smiting us to act as a normal citizen and respect others' rights. You can also be a hopeful human being without religion. This is not a debate of "not all the religious folk are bad eggs" the debate here is why it still exists in any form in the year 2019.

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