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October 08, 2019, 07:17:07 PM
#49
^^^ Looks like the Religion of Peace is bringing Muslims closer to that insatiable appetite for more carnal knowledge. These Muslim cleric opportunist are taking advantage of a prostitution kind of virgin market for exploitation.


The idea of religion was to bring man closer to that insatiable appetite for more knowledge of the creator of this universe. However, opportunist saw the virgin market for exploitation and took advantage of it.


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October 08, 2019, 07:11:02 PM
#48

Anything will be forgiven in the Allah's court if you ask for Dua and do your prayers.

Do you really mean anything or are you speaking figuratively?

I'm certain rape, murder, and torture among other things shouldn't be forgiven. I clearly don't study religious text to much extent but I see where assumptions like this would come in to play with extremism. That is, the literal belief in forgiveness for ANY atrocious act.

Really, Anything?


Scandal of young Iraqi girls sold for sex in temporary 'pleasure marriages' ...



Young Iraqi girls are being sold for sex in temporary 'marriages' that can last as little as an hour, a BBC documentary has revealed.

Shia clerics were filmed offering 'pleasure marriages' in which men, usually banned from having sex outside marriage, can pay a dowry for an interim wife.

One cleric claimed it would be 'no problem at all' to marry girls as young as nine under Islamic law. 

The practice is banned in Iraq but eight out of 10 Shia clerics who were approached were willing to carry it out - and one of them even offered to help procure young girls, the BBC News investigation found.

The religious rite dates back centuries, partly intended to allow men to have a legitimate relationship while away from their wives.

However, some Iraqi men and Shia clerics are now abusing it to give a veneer of legitimacy to child prostitution.

One cleric in Karbala, an important religious site in Iraq, told the undercover BBC journalist that girls as young as nine could be subject to the procedure.

'According to Sharia, there's no problem,' he said, when asked if it was acceptable to conduct a temporary marriage with a young girl.


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October 08, 2019, 03:44:58 PM
#47
The idea of religion was to bring man closer to that insatiable appetite for more knowledge of the creator of this universe. However, opportunist saw the virgin market for exploitation and took advantage of it.
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October 08, 2019, 02:47:45 PM
#46
but he might have mercy for a time.

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He supposed to show since I am going to masjid on every friday to pray Jumma. Smiley

Well, good. You are doing some of the things of Alla wants, right? So, Allah will have mercy. But, really learn your religion a bit more, because if you don't, you might be forgetting something. And Allah's mercy might come to an end.

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Anything will be forgiven in the Allah's court if you ask for Dua and do your prayers.

Do you really mean anything or are you speaking figuratively?

I'm certain rape, murder, and torture among other things shouldn't be forgiven. I clearly don't study religious text to much extent but I see where assumptions like this would come in to play with extremism. That is, the literal belief in forgiveness for ANY atrocious act.
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October 08, 2019, 11:24:11 AM
#45
but he might have mercy for a time.

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He supposed to show since I am going to masjid on every friday to pray Jumma. Smiley

Well, good. You are doing some of the things of Alla wants, right? So, Allah will have mercy. But, really learn your religion a bit more, because if you don't, you might be forgetting something. And Allah's mercy might come to an end.

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Anything will be forgiven in the Allah's court if you ask for Dua and do your prayers.
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October 08, 2019, 08:55:58 AM
#44
but he might have mercy for a time.

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He supposed to show since I am going to masjid on every friday to pray Jumma. Smiley

Well, good. You are doing some of the things of Alla wants, right? So, Allah will have mercy. But, really learn your religion a bit more, because if you don't, you might be forgetting something. And Allah's mercy might come to an end.

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October 08, 2019, 08:36:54 AM
#43
but he might have mercy for a time.

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He supposed to show since I am going to masjid on every friday to pray Jumma. Smiley
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October 08, 2019, 08:35:33 AM
#42
It's easy in today's world to blame Islam of backwards savagery against women, children, etc. Yet this is still protected by the left?

Why? When at the same time Christianity is under attack in the modern political and social climate. Other than the obvious propagation of pedophilia by the Catholic church, Christians' rape and pillaging days are over for the most part.

Other than instinctual human greed, religion has caused more conflict in human history than anything else. Why do we still need it? Are there any merits left?

I understand a common argument here may be that it instills fear in common folk and helps to provide them a reason to behave but we shouldn't need the fear of deities smiting us to act as a normal citizen and respect others' rights. You can also be a hopeful human being without religion. This is not a debate of "not all the religious folk are bad eggs" the debate here is why it still exists in any form in the year 2019.

Well if this isn't about 'not all the religious folk are bad eggs', then it's about people who need to believe in something, and the exact year doesn't matter. Some human thing gives individual internal support. After all, there's a fear of death.

Despite all the occasions, even the horrible ones.

Hope in people IS a natural thing, because we all recognize that we have been given this life for free, and so why shouldn't it remain? Or why shouldn't there even be more and better?

Yet, informal religion has a monopoly in the lives of everyone, because nobody knows for-a-fact what is going to happen... even in the next minute. After all, walking-down-the-street/in-the-elevator/driving/whatever, there might be some suicide extremist headed right for you, and you will die. We don't know. We live in hope, according to our personal, informal religion.

religion
[ ri-lij-uh n ]

noun

...

6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:
to make a religion of fighting prejudice.

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October 08, 2019, 08:27:23 AM
#41
Maybe I don't know much about these things,I will research about in this week and also will ask is this were told by clerics or what was the actual meaning of jihad and blah blah to someone who teaching Quaran in my place.

Anyway "my life my rules" if anyone want to interrupt that they need to answer my gun first. Cheesy

Come, come, now. You're a peaceful Muslim, right? What would Allah say about you even talking about violence with guns? Doesn't Allah rule in your life? Be careful. Your guns can't stand up against Allah.

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Our life is more important than anyone's words so if they are going to endager me then they need to face the consequences.

Now I am shocked... and absolutely scared for you... talking against Allah like that. Don't you realize that he is all-powerful?

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Allah is not going to assasinate me,there are some extremist will do that in the name of Allah,so they also same like everyone so no need to bow for them.

Now you are REALLY showing your anti-Islam stance.

Allah doesn't work through direct zaps most of the time. After all, hasn't he set all things up in such a way that they work together in this life? The extremists, who are following the dictates of the Koran and Hadiths ARE the way that Allah might assassinate you Muslim hypocrite. Or, you might fall off your bicycle and break your neck. Allah has a million ways that he can do away with you... but he might have mercy for a time.

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October 08, 2019, 06:58:44 AM
#40
It's easy in today's world to blame Islam of backwards savagery against women, children, etc. Yet this is still protected by the left?

Why? When at the same time Christianity is under attack in the modern political and social climate. Other than the obvious propagation of pedophilia by the Catholic church, Christians' rape and pillaging days are over for the most part.

Other than instinctual human greed, religion has caused more conflict in human history than anything else. Why do we still need it? Are there any merits left?

I understand a common argument here may be that it instills fear in common folk and helps to provide them a reason to behave but we shouldn't need the fear of deities smiting us to act as a normal citizen and respect others' rights. You can also be a hopeful human being without religion. This is not a debate of "not all the religious folk are bad eggs" the debate here is why it still exists in any form in the year 2019.

Well if this isn't about 'not all the religious folk are bad eggs', then it's about people who need to believe in something, and the exact year doesn't matter. Some human thing gives individual internal support. After all, there's a fear of death.

Despite all the occasions, even the horrible ones.
legendary
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October 08, 2019, 05:02:35 AM
#39
Maybe I don't know much about these things,I will research about in this week and also will ask is this were told by clerics or what was the actual meaning of jihad and blah blah to someone who teaching Quaran in my place.

Anyway "my life my rules" if anyone want to interrupt that they need to answer my gun first. Cheesy

Come, come, now. You're a peaceful Muslim, right? What would Allah say about you even talking about violence with guns? Doesn't Allah rule in your life? Be careful. Your guns can't stand up against Allah.

Cool
Our life is more important than anyone's words so if they are going to endager me then they need to face the consequences.

Now I am shocked... and absolutely scared for you... talking against Allah like that. Don't you realize that he is all-powerful?

Cool
Allah is not going to assasinate me,there are some extremist will do that in the name of Allah,so they also same like everyone so no need to bow for them.

There are always extremists who think they are speaking in the name of God but God is our Heavenly Parent and love and we all are His children and brothers and sisters.
If God was truly asked, there would be no killing and violence in his name, and we will have religion of peace.
The problem is that many so-called religious leaders interpret the scriptures in their own way and claim to speak in the name of God.
Because of this we have religious wars and conflicts, not because of God.
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October 07, 2019, 11:31:37 PM
#38
Maybe I don't know much about these things,I will research about in this week and also will ask is this were told by clerics or what was the actual meaning of jihad and blah blah to someone who teaching Quaran in my place.

Anyway "my life my rules" if anyone want to interrupt that they need to answer my gun first. Cheesy

Come, come, now. You're a peaceful Muslim, right? What would Allah say about you even talking about violence with guns? Doesn't Allah rule in your life? Be careful. Your guns can't stand up against Allah.

Cool
Our life is more important than anyone's words so if they are going to endager me then they need to face the consequences.

Now I am shocked... and absolutely scared for you... talking against Allah like that. Don't you realize that he is all-powerful?

Cool
Allah is not going to assasinate me,there are some extremist will do that in the name of Allah,so they also same like everyone so no need to bow for them.
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October 07, 2019, 06:39:29 PM
#37
It's easy in today's world to blame Islam of backwards savagery against women, children, etc. Yet this is still protected by the left?

Why? When at the same time Christianity is under attack in the modern political and social climate. Other than the obvious propagation of pedophilia by the Catholic church, Christians' rape and pillaging days are over for the most part.

Other than instinctual human greed, religion has caused more conflict in human history than anything else. Why do we still need it? Are there any merits left?

I understand a common argument here may be that it instills fear in common folk and helps to provide them a reason to behave but we shouldn't need the fear of deities smiting us to act as a normal citizen and respect others' rights. You can also be a hopeful human being without religion. This is not a debate of "not all the religious folk are bad eggs" the debate here is why it still exists in any form in the year 2019.

For me, I don't believe with religion but still I respect others. What was important for me was Spirituality. With this idea, you are not being controlled by norms but instead you will decide what is right or wrong and everything was based on your experiences in life. The problem with religion is that some of them are arguing with others because they have different beliefs. Thats nonsense actually. First of all both of you are with different religion so that you have different belief.
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October 07, 2019, 09:44:30 AM
#36
^^^ The only reason God is bringing progress to the corners of the planet is so that knowledge of Him and Jesus salvation can come to all people.

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By that logic how are there godless people who are intelligent and contribute to human progress around the globe?

God is not a pre-requisite to knowledge and improving human quality of life.

Here's a question.. what's your opinion on the legacy of Mother teresa?
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October 07, 2019, 09:21:37 AM
#35
^^^ The only reason God is bringing progress to the corners of the planet is so that knowledge of Him and Jesus salvation can come to all people.

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October 07, 2019, 05:05:15 AM
#34
Progress is not yet in all corners of our planet, but for now, people will turn to some local creatures for a long time.
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October 06, 2019, 04:20:40 PM
#33
Maybe I don't know much about these things,I will research about in this week and also will ask is this were told by clerics or what was the actual meaning of jihad and blah blah to someone who teaching Quaran in my place.

Anyway "my life my rules" if anyone want to interrupt that they need to answer my gun first. Cheesy

Come, come, now. You're a peaceful Muslim, right? What would Allah say about you even talking about violence with guns? Doesn't Allah rule in your life? Be careful. Your guns can't stand up against Allah.

Cool
Our life is more important than anyone's words so if they are going to endager me then they need to face the consequences.

Now I am shocked... and absolutely scared for you... talking against Allah like that. Don't you realize that he is all-powerful?

Cool

It's true. Apparently to stand up to those teachings and the prophet are a death wish. One of many examples, but have we forgotten this?

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting

An example of zealotry in its purest form. Satire leading to multiple murders.

I'll spend my last breath defending against nonsense like this.

A true romantic! But... even Lawrence of Arabia was assassinated, though few people realize it.

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October 06, 2019, 04:03:44 PM
#32
Maybe I don't know much about these things,I will research about in this week and also will ask is this were told by clerics or what was the actual meaning of jihad and blah blah to someone who teaching Quaran in my place.

Anyway "my life my rules" if anyone want to interrupt that they need to answer my gun first. Cheesy

Come, come, now. You're a peaceful Muslim, right? What would Allah say about you even talking about violence with guns? Doesn't Allah rule in your life? Be careful. Your guns can't stand up against Allah.

Cool
Our life is more important than anyone's words so if they are going to endager me then they need to face the consequences.

Now I am shocked... and absolutely scared for you... talking against Allah like that. Don't you realize that he is all-powerful?

Cool

It's true. Apparently to stand up to those teachings and the prophet are a death wish. One of many examples, but have we forgotten this?

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting

An example of zealotry in its purest form. Satire leading to multiple murders.

I'll spend my last breath defending against nonsense like this.
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October 06, 2019, 02:48:16 PM
#31
Maybe I don't know much about these things,I will research about in this week and also will ask is this were told by clerics or what was the actual meaning of jihad and blah blah to someone who teaching Quaran in my place.

Anyway "my life my rules" if anyone want to interrupt that they need to answer my gun first. Cheesy

Come, come, now. You're a peaceful Muslim, right? What would Allah say about you even talking about violence with guns? Doesn't Allah rule in your life? Be careful. Your guns can't stand up against Allah.

Cool
Our life is more important than anyone's words so if they are going to endager me then they need to face the consequences.

Now I am shocked... and absolutely scared for you... talking against Allah like that. Don't you realize that he is all-powerful?

Cool
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October 06, 2019, 10:31:08 AM
#30
Maybe I don't know much about these things,I will research about in this week and also will ask is this were told by clerics or what was the actual meaning of jihad and blah blah to someone who teaching Quaran in my place.

Anyway "my life my rules" if anyone want to interrupt that they need to answer my gun first. Cheesy

Come, come, now. You're a peaceful Muslim, right? What would Allah say about you even talking about violence with guns? Doesn't Allah rule in your life? Be careful. Your guns can't stand up against Allah.

Cool
Our life is more important than anyone's words so if they are going to endager me then they need to face the consequences.
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