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I'm not following your logic. Why must there be a point of authority? Where did that point of authority come from?

By the way, our search for the Higgs Boss on answered the question of where the universe came from. While searching for the "god" particle in the particle accelerator, we discovered that spontaneous explosions of matter and antimatter are popping out of nothing all the time, everywhere. Nothing is needed for those explosions to happen, they just do it on a quantum scale. They quickly revert as matter and antimatter annihilate each other, so we never notice them without specialized powerful instruments.
But this explosion is exactly what the Big Bang was: a spontaneous quantum explosion of matter and antimatter that was bigger than "normal," and just happened to have kept going. Since these things happen on their own, and we have observed them, there is really nothing special about the Big Bang explosion, nor anything special that had to happen for it to exist. And as to the question of how did something come out of nothing, just like the tiny explosions of matter and antimatter that we observe, our Big Bang derived universe was also an explosion of matter and antimatter. So if you were to sum up everything that exists in our entire universe, the sum total of all matter and antimatter cancels each other out, and is also equal to zero/nothing. In other words, our entire universe is just all equal parts positive and equal parts negative, the sum of which is zero, and we just happen to live among the positive stuff in it.

It's not bigotry. Bigotry is when you base an opinion on something other than fact, such as all Asians and women are bad drivers, or all Africans have a lower IQ than whites. Facts don't support that opinion, and thus it's bigotry.
Christians claiming things like evolution is a myth, homosexuality is a choice, the world is 6,000 years old, and that there is an omnipotent being that watches you masturbate and blesses you with football game wins, but fails to lift a finger to help the famines in Africa, are claims that are not substantiated with facts, and go against the evidence. Saying those Christians are idiots is just stating a fact.

Also, it's not hate. At most it's sad pity. Sometimes, rarely, it's hate, but it's not the kind of hate that Christians display when they hate those of other religions, or other beliefs, or other sexualities or sins. It's a self defense hate; hating Christians back for being such spiteful, condescending cunts to other people because their faith says it's OK for them to do.

Even Wikipedia does not doubt the historicity of Jesus, divinity is of course the issue :p

People read the bible and each person views everything that is said differently. Too many different perceptions are created from this to really give the bible any credit for anything.

Ignore the superstitious ones and go on with your life.

My $.02.

Unless of course that wasn't supposed to be an argument, in which case I quite like your elephant hypothesis.

I personally see a flaw in your argument, if you base your conception of 'God' (or however you choose to envisage such an entity) on such stories. Basically, if you are arguing against the existence of a supreme being/conciousness, perhaps there is a certain bias to assuming the worst stories to be fact and then attacking via that vector - to put it another way, does belief in God necessarily imply belief in the story of passover, the great flood etc? Or would it be possible that your pink polka dot elephant is closer to the truth.... 

Great hypothesis, now begin testing it. Currently your fantasy shares an equal chance at truth as does, "I believe the universe was created by a pink polka-dotted elephant who pinched her trunk and farted us into existence because it sounds fun!"

Personally I like my guess better than yours because in my elephant hypothesis, the wonderful creator does not capriciously murder entire peoples simply because they disagree with her. She also never claimed to flood the entire planet, indiscriminately killing every living thing save the handful of crew members on an impossible boat. She's particularly proud she never kills people just because they work on Sunday, or are in love with people of the same sex, and she is gleeful she never approved of and/or promoted using other humans as chattel, unlike some other gods we know of.

Not that it matters since you'll apparently buy any religious claptrap accompanied by a halleluiah, but you'll probably find your prophecies here:
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Failed_biblical_prophecies
http://www.godlesshaven.com/articles/christianity/bible-prophecy_pg3.html

Or more specifically:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/isaiah_53_part_1.htm

42,000 denominations, each one certain it holds the only One True Path and all else are headed to whichever version of hell they believe in. Makes total sense.

No this is spooky: http://tinyurl.com/4z2ck

The bible is fiction. There is no extra-biblical evidence for the existence of Jesus, and even if I grant there may have been some dude running around during that time named Jesus, there is absolutely no evidence for divinity. You are no closer to proving the existence of a god; you'll need to settle for faith, just like the Raelians.

Beyond the Quest for the Historical Jesus
Thomas L. Brodie
"Jesus did not exist as a historical individual"

Bart Ehrman
http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/05/15/bible.critic/index.html (debunks the bible)
In another Bart D. Ehrman book his introductory statement is similar to mine, there was likely some dude named jesus but there is no proof he was divine.

So, you list scholars who've proved some dude named jesus existed. I list scholars who say no special jesus existed. And then we both post OTHER people who call our experts crazy and uneducated.

And around we go herding translucent cats in a dark basement, landing back down on your belief versus my need for proof. So until I have that proof, jesus son of god did not exist. And since I know the bible is a book of lies concocted by men, and there exists nothing else that could even be considered "evidence", your god doesn't exist either. Since god doesn't exist it's a safe assumption any jesus mentioned was just a regular dude built up via myth. There were plenty of crazy zealots running around then as now.

But I will leave the door cracked for you that there exists the chance that one day there may be proven a creator. I think the chance is miniscule but I must conceded the chance nonetheless.

http://youtu.be/JjcWkhqScBI



Prophecy...? Oh dear... By the way, I have some great land in Florida for sale and I want to offer it at a great price, first, to the most god-fearing because they're just good people. I'll need a small deposit to hold it for you because the other plots went really fast.



You mean good character like Ted Haggard's? Religious faith is no more a test of character than a coin flip.

ALL OF MY YUP.
The microcosm (me) is the macrocosm (us.)
Id hate to put words in their mouths, though- lot of theists disagree with me lumping them into us, and take offense.
Has anyone noticed how a perfectly reasonable, intelligent person will KA-FLIP into evangelist mode and start using a lofty, pretentious schzoid sentance structure and vocabulary?
I do it too, you know...  but its still kinda spooky.

Magic... (magick if yer nasty) is the manipulation of perception, nothing more.
Lets say that reality turned out literally any other way. Good, now lets imagine that all of those ither ways happened. Good. We've just imagined the multiverse, yay.
Nothing special here, no need for a watchmaker... no room, in fact!
...unless that watchmaker is us, of course.
Atheism denies autotheism, which disempowers folks. Lets look at the Egyptian, greek and roman pantheons as sociological literary metaphors, as they relate to the protostate. anarchism and polymonarchistic soverignty.
No govt/gods? You're Fucked
 You are your own govt/god? Congrats. You stand the same chance of getting bombed by the disattached state as anyone else, but at least you have ground to stand on and reason to resist.

FTFY  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

http://www.csad.ox.ac.uk/POxy/beast616.htm
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/666-the-number-of-the-beast-and-gulp-todays-date-481233.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070614174458AAfiKaH

Because for those who choose reality over magic there is no good evidence for its existence.



"I don't understand" != "Gawd musta dun did it!"

Exactly

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1315017

Athiestic Bigotry:






Posts that were taking verses out of context, and mis-characterizing God as some sort of evil Malevolent for were mainly what I was talking about, the level of hate that athiests generally show is surprising. Also the level of mis-information that passes as good arguments in the athiest camp is equally shocking.