Topic: Removal of escrow.ms? Update: Recommend users for DT 2, as escrow.ms is removed - page 11. (Read 19844 times)

I haven't even read the article, but since he never scammed here, I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense. But I guess he will at least be inactive for a while, so I removed him.


It's a common misconception that one's trust list is a list of people who you extra-special-trust. Really it's a list of people who you believe have given accurate ratings and will continue to do so -- it's not necessary to actually trust them all that much otherwise. And likewise, if someone is very trustworthy but never leaves trust ratings, then it's somewhat pointless to add them to your trust list.

A lot of people are using the term "DT" in a confusing way... I wrote a vocabulary post about this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trust-vocabulary-891261

If people said the same when Shorena, Ecuamobi, Vod and others were going to be added, how would they know how helpful they would be in the future. Change of this type is not counter-intuitive I believe.
Not talking about DT 1 here, I'm recommending members for Blazed's trust list as he asked for before.

Edit: Can we take the discussion of whether Blazed should or should not be added to another thread or PMs if you want to have a conversation with me, getting quite tired of bringing this post back from the dead

Then its better not to add anyone at all an leave it as it is.
I think there will be no physical harm to have lower trust points.

Although an exceptional situation happened, the ones under his trust list should try and win their places back from scratch.

Also I think its better to add Cyrus and John K. on DT1 (not devthedev, since I am speculative about him)

I think mexxer-2 would be a suitable fit for a DT.There are a number of reasons I could list out but to mention a few he's available most of the time and quite responsive with messages and everything.He knows stuff about the forum and is good at pointing out likely scams.

That is not a good idea, why should theymos add certain people who he has never traded with or trusts, to his trust list? At any rate most of those individuals were mostly added because they did a few early trades with escrow.ms , he once even added a person who he had done a small ~$20 trade with.

A third person however, that too , one who (I estimate) has done the most trades, and has the highest(had before escrow.ms was taken down from DT, Ognasty holds the 2nd position because his trust list includes people who he has traded with, and has gotten feedbacks from), would be suitable for a replacement to add new individuals to the DT while considering if some of the old DT members, do deserve it.

Edit: Once again, recommendations:

I do not think this is the right way to elevate trust point just by adding another member to DT1.
It would have been better if theymos removed escrow.ms only and added the names under his trust list back to the previous DT manually wihout adding Blazed.

I am not showing any disrespect towards Blazed but I feel that he should remain in the position as was before.

OK, then I recommend mexxer-2 for DT-2  & also edit the subject maybe ?

It'd possibly going to take at least 3 DT 1 members to do that, 2 to cancel out the 2 "score" from TC and BB, and another to exclude him from DT.

@Heu can you and Blazed take it to the PMs or another thread? Currently this thread is here for recommending people "eligible" for DT 2

That is not deserving

Yes.CONTRIBUTION is the criteria for someone to be in the deserving category not personal trades or big score.

why would you add all of them who can increase your rating then ? none of the users in your list is someone who haven't left you a rating & many of them don't even post a couple times a week but you still think they should be on DT.

ssateneth & BigBitz have stopped posting since months,dazedfool nothing other than coin trades.

what relation does DT has over person's trust or character ? I am not trusting(if i were to) you because you are level 1 or level 500 but because of the past experience.If a user never did a runner with 200 btc in hand then it pretty much defines his personality.

I would also trust TECSHARE with some typical escrow deal but he is not on DT.
SebastianJu,Shorena,ecuamobi,Vod,M.zakir have never done any coin trades but that doesn't changes the fact that they are pretty active scam busting artists and have saved hundreds of people from scams.It helps the community significantly and also elucidates the meaning of DT.

You are leaving a +rating for the smooth trade & which in turn shows their reputation but that doesn't means they should be on DT ? or if that is how you think then i can start taking interest in coins from now and do a couple of coin trades and also throw some huge tips on you to get a position in your network like the other senior guy i mentioned above , isn't it abusable or at least a questionable idea/judgment ?

Rassah holds 750 btc here 1HQ8WaKVRYXLBtVdMcYr5SHQ3X9BsLyxa1 but theymos didn't added him to DT ? he might still be a reputed one though.

I know they are inactive, I meant that 2-3 Default trust users (depth 1) should remove escrow.ms (~). Regarding your other post, yes... devthedev and Cyrus seems very trusted.

Both are inactive, and I doubt Tomatocage will return anytime soon.

Seems my recommendations were flooded over by other comments, not sure if a seperate thread is needed for the purpose though:

Now escrow.ms is still under Tomatocage and BadBear trust list, we should ask if they can remove him from their list.

escrow.ms was actually someone that many people here trust. It is still somewhat a bad thing that he is arrested.

And congrats to Blazed for getting into the Default Trust.

Deserve means they have proven themselves here and are responsible with holding coins or actively contribute here in ither ways.

Why would I need more positive feedback from anyone? Not really sure how I am supposed to take that comment honestly. The people in my network I have trusted with coins and had no issues.

No,people were scammed by him and any other non-DT escrow can do that.Monbux was holding ten's of coins while not being a part of the network.

Yes,but .MS definitely never took part in any of the swindle's.I wouldn't believe that and also he never scammed anyone on forum while doing the carding thing for more than half a year by which i assume he might have had pretty deep thinking between honesty and business.

What does truly deserve means ?

If the reason must be that they should give you trust then add me ,I will do that...lol because that is what every person in your network is doing

However, if it is just personal benefits and Anschauung over Logic then I think I should just hold my suggestions.

Congratulations Blazed!
you may also consider re-adding people whose ratings you trust who are only once on DT or ~removing those you don't trust

That's exactly what I thought too when I saw you made DT1 and you had monbux on your list.

Well done Blazed, absolutely deserved mate.
But also well done on including monbux in your trust list. He should have been there a long time ago. Am sure he, like you, are in most peoples top 5-10 trusted people on this forum.

Congrats Blazed on making dt1, well deserved

https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz
or in trust setting- Hierarchical view

currently you in DT level 4 under me

@monbux finally, congratz

Thanks...

You are on my list so you are finally part of the DT network.