Feel free to add me if I'm not already on that list.
No pressure.
Yeah my green score is dropping...lol who cares as long as I know i'm honest that's all that matters
Topic: Removal of escrow.ms? Update: Recommend users for DT 2, as escrow.ms is removed - page 6. (Read 19840 times)
February 15, 2016, 04:59:39 AM
Feel free to add me if I'm not already on that list.
No pressure.
Yeah my green score is dropping...lol who cares as long as I know i'm honest that's all that matters
February 15, 2016, 04:55:37 AM
Alright, so I was added to DT1 and am willing to add a few users if they truly deserve it (people I have overlooked). Feel free to make suggestions of people I should add (obviously I need reasons).
Edit: I will be very active with my list...
Edit: I will be very active with my list...
Feel free to add me if I'm not already on that list.
No pressure.
Yeah my green score is dropping...lol who cares as long as I know i'm honest that's all that matters
February 15, 2016, 12:29:07 AM
but TBH I'm pretty disappointed that it worked out like that.
You are the one responsible for that.Like there is a chinese saying "there is nothing like a bad student".DeaDTerra is inactive and most of his list members are,other high level guys dont even know the purpose and all this because of who ?
you are just giving gun to the.......but not N.P to buddha.Remember, the weapon's resulted nothing other than abuse in the history of mankind,the safety had a negligible share.
You know how to give me a great laugh. 
Though i think you did not mean that too serious anyway. It looks way too impossible anyway.
He is having some pussies to support him lately,don't say anything to them cause the pussy gang is on POWERRRRRRRR!!!!!!! Though i think you did not mean that too serious anyway. It looks way too impossible anyway. Honestly i would have supported QS if he would have apologized instead of the "thinking" to do/say anything just to save the reputation.Even in the law if a criminal ever says that he is not guilty then he usually get's a life imprisonment cause he might do the same thing again because he doesn't feels guilty.
You are a good contributor but you clearly explained why you dont deserve to be in control of something.
February 14, 2016, 11:35:19 PM
I tend to think that with the current trust we have three levels of how members should vote. First is untrusted and trusted from someone on default trust 2. Their trust ratings does not really mean much since they only show up on untrusted feedback and very few check there.
Next is default trust 2. Which means you have to be a lot more cautious who you trust now since your trust shows up for everyone. Your trust means you can trust this person and you show this to everyone. So it is not a thing of "a trade went well" anymore. You need to think of the person of someone you somehow got the impression of that you can trust him.
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Next is default trust 2. Which means you have to be a lot more cautious who you trust now since your trust shows up for everyone. Your trust means you can trust this person and you show this to everyone. So it is not a thing of "a trade went well" anymore. You need to think of the person of someone you somehow got the impression of that you can trust him.
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That's probably a fairly accurate description, but TBH I'm pretty disappointed that it worked out like that. The purpose of all the complexity in the trust system was to make it decentralized, yet to a very large extent it became centralized in the form of DefaultTrust. I'm tempted to try out my alternate idea for bootstrapping the trust lists of new users which I posted about a while ago just because I find the centralization very annoying, even if the new system might be objectively somewhat worse.
February 14, 2016, 10:24:11 PM
It's very sad to hear about Pankaj , thought I haven't traded with him but he has done many innovative works for circulation of bitcoin in India , I feel shame that he was involved in card frauds.
February 14, 2016, 10:23:38 PM
mexxer-2 and RHavar (not completely sure about this one) got added to the DT so he got more positives.
RHavar moved from DT4 to DT3 with mexxer moving from DT3 to DT2.uh nope. Rhavar is on DT2 with bare DefaultTrust list. not sure who added him as he's not on Blazed's list. (and you're in his list, in case you missed.)
He's the guy who runs moneypot right ?
February 14, 2016, 10:18:36 PM
mexxer-2 and RHavar (not completely sure about this one) got added to the DT so he got more positives.
RHavar moved from DT4 to DT3 with mexxer moving from DT3 to DT2.uh nope. Rhavar is on DT2 with bare DefaultTrust list. not sure who added him as he's not on Blazed's list. (and you're in his list, in case you missed.)
He's the guy who runs moneypot right ?
February 14, 2016, 10:13:35 PM
mexxer-2 and RHavar (not completely sure about this one) got added to the DT so he got more positives.
RHavar moved from DT4 to DT3 with mexxer moving from DT3 to DT2.uh nope. Rhavar is on DT2 with bare DefaultTrust list. not sure who added him as he's not on Blazed's list. (and you're in his list, in case you missed.)
February 14, 2016, 10:12:52 PM
mexxer-2 and RHavar (not completely sure about this one) got added to the DT so he got more positives.
RHavar moved from DT4 to DT3 with mexxer moving from DT3 to DT2.uh nope. Rhavar is on DT2 with bare DefaultTrust list. not sure who added him as he's not on Blazed's list. (and you're in his list, in case you missed.)
February 14, 2016, 10:11:55 PM
I had to laugh because you are so consistent on holding on your account even though it looks pretty unlikely getting the red trust away.
Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think QS is back to 0 on default settings.Before i kicked dt out i noticed qs doesnt have those ?? ?? anymore
Ah lutpin wrote it
mexxer-2 and RHavar (not completely sure about this one) got added to the DT so he got more positives.
Well i decided to add him to my list too. I dont trust him but somehow his ratings. Also i might not agree with him sometimes but somehow i have some respect left for him. He is a bit harsh sometimes. Sounds strange i know. Cant really decide.
Doesnt mean i wouldnt trade with him. My view might be blurred because i am sick of reading the qs/vod/dooglus/bac etc drama storries all over the forum...
February 14, 2016, 10:10:30 PM
I had to laugh because you are so consistent on holding on your account even though it looks pretty unlikely getting the red trust away.
I technically have neutral trust right now. However even when I did have "red" trust, (eg a "trade with extreme caution" tag), I was able to participate in signature deals, was able to engage in trades at favorable prices/rates to me, and was entrusted with multiple other people's money in fairly decent amounts. I also feel that I have a decent amount of respect. I agree you are a good spambuster but you might remember that i at least once spoke against your red trust. I think you gave red trust way too freely. Red trust can practically destroy an account and it seems to me the complaints about your ratings were not only from scammers but from people who genuinely felt their feeling of justice hurt.
I don't think any QS threads were created by anyone who did not have a negative rating from me. Some people may say that I was quick to leave a negative rating, however I never left a negative rating without evaluating all of the facts and information available to me. I was also very rarely incorrect about someone being a scammer, and when I was outright wrong, I would quickly remove any negative trust that I left when evidence is presented that shows I was wrong (case in point ndnhcas the evidence that I presented stood up to scrutiny for several days, and once ndnhc pointed out something that no one else did I removed my negative rating and apologized).
For the most part I never left negative trust unless something was actually stolen, or if there was a clear attempt to steal (or an alt thereof)
February 14, 2016, 10:09:04 PM
mexxer-2 and RHavar (not completely sure about this one) got added to the DT so he got more positives.
uh nope. Rhavar is on DT2 with bare DefaultTrust list. not sure who added him as he's not on Blazed's list. (and you're in his list, in case you missed.)
RHavar is in dooglus's trust list February 14, 2016, 10:07:01 PM
I had to laugh because you are so consistent on holding on your account even though it looks pretty unlikely getting the red trust away.
Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think QS is back to 0 on default settings.Before i kicked dt out i noticed qs doesnt have those ?? ?? anymore
Ah lutpin wrote it
mexxer-2 and RHavar (not completely sure about this one) got added to the DT so he got more positives.
February 14, 2016, 10:04:20 PM
I had to laugh because you are so consistent on holding on your account even though it looks pretty unlikely getting the red trust away.
Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think QS is back to 0 on default settings.Before i kicked dt out i noticed qs doesnt have those ?? ?? anymore
Ah lutpin wrote it
February 14, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
Yes that is correct.
I thought you were referring to someone adding me back into the DT network
Nope, only was talking about your trust rating. I thought you were referring to someone adding me back into the DT network
February 14, 2016, 10:00:48 PM
I had to laugh because you are so consistent on holding on your account even though it looks pretty unlikely getting the red trust away.
Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think QS is back to 0 on default settings.Your overall trust rating on default settings is back to a 0 (-> a black rating, with an orange -4).
With my trust settings that would be a "Trust: -9: -5 / +23 Warning: Trade with extreme caution!" btw.
I thought you were referring to someone adding me back into the DT network
February 14, 2016, 09:58:55 PM
I had to laugh because you are so consistent on holding on your account even though it looks pretty unlikely getting the red trust away.
Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think QS is back to 0 on default settings.Your overall trust rating on default settings is back to a 0 (-> a black rating, with an orange -4).
With my trust settings that would be a "Trust: -9: -5 / +23 Warning: Trade with extreme caution!" btw.
February 14, 2016, 09:55:57 PM
I had to laugh because you are so consistent on holding on your account even though it looks pretty unlikely getting the red trust away.
Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think QS is back to 0 on default settings. February 14, 2016, 08:48:29 PM
Anyway, what is the difference between you giving green trust to a user the normal way and you putting a user into your trust settings? Is it the same basically? If so then you have to be really cautious now. Though i think you already found out.
Did you read the post by theymos you replied to? Did you read the thread he linked? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trust-vocabulary-891261If you give a positive trust to a user, that will result in a change of his trust score for all those users who got you in their trust network. If you're on DT1 or DT2, your ratings will be shown as "trusted" with default settings.
If you put a user into your trust list, that will include him into your trust network and show that users trust ratings as "trusted" for you (and those from users in their trust list,... / depending on your trust depth).
* I will only give one trust rating and try to put all ratings in one rating.
Actually, since trust ages, and only your oldest trust influences the rating, you can easily leave a new trust for every reason you have to give a user a trust rating.Giving 2 trusts wont affect his score, as giving 2 negs won't either (compared to giving only one of them). Deleting and reposting however, can result in a lower overall score, since the first trust might have already aged.
I had to laugh because you are so consistent on holding on your account even though it looks pretty unlikely getting the red trust away.
Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think QS is back to 0 on default settings.Ah thanks for the explaination and thanks Blazed on adding me again. 
I did not see me added on the list i downloaded some hours ago.
That list is updated weekly on Saturdays. Balzed probably added you after the latest update of the trust.txt.xy I did not see me added on the list i downloaded some hours ago.
February 14, 2016, 08:48:01 PM
Started to rework my list. Like others, I was looking at adding users in the wrong way (based on trades). I based my additions on how much they help out and feedback left. I will likely be tweaking this list more very soon. I hope a semi-democratic list helps out around here. Seems like OgNasty being DT1 is pretty much useless according to Theymos's definition of how trust should work since his list is basicly empty?
A way to not give wrong trust too.
Anyway, what is the difference between you giving green trust to a user the normal way and you putting a user into your trust settings? Is it the same basically? If so then you have to be really cautious now. Though i think you already found out.
Well, it looks like a lot of work to me.
If I add someone to my list (like I added you) they become DT2 members and their feedback shows up for everyone. If I leave feedback it is the same as before.
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