Topic: Removal of escrow.ms? Update: Recommend users for DT 2, as escrow.ms is removed - page 8. (Read 19840 times)
February 14, 2016, 12:19:10 PM
It also might be a good idea to exclude some people on DT that have given out reputation loans/reputation ratings in the past, and who otherwise are not a good fit to be on DT, but are.
February 14, 2016, 11:38:59 AM
Every person on my list was by my choice. The goal is people make suggestions for me to look at and make a decision.
February 14, 2016, 11:38:01 AM
Started to rework my list. Like others, I was looking at adding users in the wrong way (based on trades). I based my additions on how much they help out and feedback left. I will likely be tweaking this list more very soon. I hope a semi-democratic list helps out around here. Seems like OgNasty being DT1 is pretty much useless according to Theymos's definition of how trust should work since his list is basicly empty?
Well opinions is helpful, but at the end of the day you should shape your trust list according to whose ratings you trust. Although some members may add no value to the network by being in DT, that in no way means you should be forced to remove them February 14, 2016, 11:25:14 AM
Started to rework my list. Like others, I was looking at adding users in the wrong way (based on trades). I based my additions on how much they help out and feedback left. I will likely be tweaking this list more very soon. I hope a semi-democratic list helps out around here. Seems like OgNasty being DT1 is pretty much useless according to Theymos's definition of how trust should work since his list is basicly empty?
February 13, 2016, 03:28:43 PM
oh and @mexxer: i can read your mind 
Oh ma god, you know all my terrible secrets. How will I ever be able to manipulate you again? Rename it to e-penis system. oh oh and leaving trust will be known as "giving a wank" 
And "DT" members to be pimps I guess P.S: Heck even mods get OT many times
February 13, 2016, 03:03:41 PM
It's a common misconception that one's trust list is a list of people who you extra-special-trust. Really it's a list of people who you believe have given accurate ratings and will continue to do so -- it's not necessary to actually trust them all that much otherwise.
You need to trust someone on your trust list to an extent above giving accurate ratings. As you need to trust them enough to not give their own sock-puppets positive trust for fake trades, which could potentially create a false sense of trustworthiness. Default trust & trust system are not the right name for this stuff, as I've said few months ago (maybe one day theymos will change the name).
Rename it to e-penis system. oh oh and leaving trust will be known as "giving a wank"
oh and @mexxer: i can read your mind
nice name, send a PM to theymos ! 
February 13, 2016, 02:55:39 PM
It's a common misconception that one's trust list is a list of people who you extra-special-trust. Really it's a list of people who you believe have given accurate ratings and will continue to do so -- it's not necessary to actually trust them all that much otherwise.
You need to trust someone on your trust list to an extent above giving accurate ratings. As you need to trust them enough to not give their own sock-puppets positive trust for fake trades, which could potentially create a false sense of trustworthiness. Default trust & trust system are not the right name for this stuff, as I've said few months ago (maybe one day theymos will change the name).
Rename it to e-penis system. oh oh and leaving trust will be known as "giving a wank"
oh and @mexxer: i can read your mind
February 13, 2016, 02:48:59 PM
A discussion if government is indeed controlling you or not might be a topic for politics and society
That is why I stopped Feeding him.I even changed the topic title for crying out loud
Though,It is hard to be on-topic when you change it with every alternate post. February 13, 2016, 02:42:25 PM
I haven't even read the article, but since he never scammed here, I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense. But I guess he will at least be inactive for a while, so I removed him.
The problem with this sort of reasoning (he ain't stolded nothin from me, honor among thieves) is it breeds exactly what we see here today.In other words yeah, a guy who steals from others is more likely to steal from you than the one who doesn't. Duh.
Theymos is giving him the benefit of doubt incase in the future the news are fake and escrow.ms will have the chance to clear his name up. Thats all for it however he removed him already from DT list so there is no reason to prolong this anymore because as of theymos stated, escrow.ms has never scam anyone here
I'm adressing the "he hasn't scammed anyone here" bit. But if you're interested in giving him "the benefit of the doubt," there is none to give.
According to the articles, he has admitted his role (& exposed others involved) in the scheme. So unless you're suggesting that a reputable Indian publication is lying about some punkass carder...,
Even if the article is accurate in saying that escrow.ms confessed, it is possible the confession was somehow coerced.
I would still put the chances of him being guilty as being fairly high though
Escrow.ms did surely confess of sending btc because he do regularly cash deal I know this. But it doesn't means he knew he was getting funds from atm cards fraud.
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"Bhardwaj revealed to us that Sheikh would procure data related to debit/credit cards through his sources," said DCP (crime) Bhisham Singh. "His associates would clone the cards and withdraw the money and send it to Delhi. Sheikh instructed Bhardwaj to transmit the money to Dubai through the bitcoin route."
From what the article is saying, it sounds like escrow.ms was selling BTC (at a premium?) for what he knew to be stolen cash.
February 13, 2016, 02:28:16 PM
I haven't even read the article, but since he never scammed here, I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense. But I guess he will at least be inactive for a while, so I removed him.
The problem with this sort of reasoning (he ain't stolded nothin from me, honor among thieves) is it breeds exactly what we see here today.In other words yeah, a guy who steals from others is more likely to steal from you than the one who doesn't. Duh.
Theymos is giving him the benefit of doubt incase in the future the news are fake and escrow.ms will have the chance to clear his name up. Thats all for it however he removed him already from DT list so there is no reason to prolong this anymore because as of theymos stated, escrow.ms has never scam anyone here
I'm adressing the "he hasn't scammed anyone here" bit. But if you're interested in giving him "the benefit of the doubt," there is none to give.
According to the articles, he has admitted his role (& exposed others involved) in the scheme. So unless you're suggesting that a reputable Indian publication is lying about some punkass carder...,
Even if the article is accurate in saying that escrow.ms confessed, it is possible the confession was somehow coerced.
I would still put the chances of him being guilty as being fairly high though
Escrow.ms did surely confess of sending btc because he do regularly cash deal I know this. But it doesn't means he knew he was getting funds from atm cards fraud.
February 13, 2016, 02:23:17 PM
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Can we get back on topic? I even changed the topic title for crying out loud . A discussion if government is indeed controlling you or not might be a topic for politics and societyNo prob. I vote for you [and] Quickseller.
February 13, 2016, 02:22:51 PM
Can we get back on topic? I even changed the topic title for crying out loud . A discussion if government is indeed controlling you or not might be a topic for politics and society
I was just about to say, this topic is becoming very off-topic... . A discussion if government is indeed controlling you or not might be a topic for politics and society February 13, 2016, 02:20:16 PM
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Can we get back on topic? I even changed the topic title for crying out loud . A discussion if government is indeed controlling you or not might be a topic for politics and society February 13, 2016, 02:17:37 PM
It's for the fringe guys,who don't need more awareness.Why don't you login into .MS account and post because you clearly are an government/bank official, kiddo...not easy to fold the true bitcoiner's 
Lol, yeah, for the lunatic fringe guys. Stay batshit crazy & pathologically paranoid, kiddo
Lol, keep drinking that Kool-Aid, 'coz that's what they want you to think!
February 13, 2016, 02:14:22 PM
It's for the fringe guys,who don't need more awareness.Why don't you login into .MS account and post because you clearly are an government/bank official, kiddo...not easy to fold the true bitcoiner's
Lol, yeah, for the lunatic fringe guys. Stay batshit crazy & pathologically paranoid, kiddo
February 13, 2016, 02:10:34 PM
It's for the fringe guys,who don't need more awareness.Why don't you login into .MS account and post because you clearly are an government/bank official, kiddo...not easy to fold the true bitcoiner's
Lol, yeah, for the lunatic fringe guys. Stay batshit crazy & pathologically paranoid, kiddo
February 13, 2016, 02:03:33 PM
It's for the fringe guys,who don't need more awareness.Why don't you login into .MS account and post because you clearly are an government/bank official, kiddo...not easy to fold the true bitcoiner's
February 13, 2016, 01:57:43 PM
Do you know what BITCOIN is ? or which type of people get into it ? If NO then learn,If YES then continue.
Sure, I know what Bitcoin is. Odds are, I sold you your first coin.
As to the people who get into it, that varies over time. Those who got into it early on were cryptogeeks, gamblers/recreational chemistry fans/vendors after SR became a thing, and, over the last ~3 years, roughly the same contingent that bought into MMM.
If there's anything else you'd like to know, don't hesitate to ask
@Quickseller yeah, me too, though I'm not holding my breath. Just find "assum[ing] [...] he is the victim of some government nonsense" is fairly silly. Makes us look like we're on the bleeding edge of the paranoid lunatic fringe.
February 13, 2016, 01:55:54 PM
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Even if the article is accurate in saying that escrow.ms confessed, it is possible the confession was somehow coerced.
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Please. It's possible that the sun doesn't rise tomorrow. I'm betting against it tho.Even if the article is accurate in saying that escrow.ms confessed, it is possible the confession was somehow coerced.
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Until the matter is resolved, it is probably best to not actively trust him.
Again, the gist of my post is this:
IMO, a scammer is a scammer, period. It really doesn't matter who they stole from, at least in my eyes Quote
I'm addressing the "he hasn't scammed anyone here" bit.
February 13, 2016, 01:45:29 PM
Do you know what BITCOIN is ? or which type of people get into it ? If NO then learn,If YES then continue.
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