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Topic: Removal of escrow.ms? Update: Recommend users for DT 2, as escrow.ms is removed - page 8. (Read 19652 times)

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It also might be a good idea to exclude some people on DT that have given out reputation loans/reputation ratings in the past, and who otherwise are not a good fit to be on DT, but are.
legendary
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Every person on my list was by my choice. The goal is people make suggestions for me to look at and make a decision.
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Move On !!!!!!
Started to rework my list. Like others, I was looking at adding users in the wrong way (based on trades). I based my additions on how much they help out and feedback left. I will likely be tweaking this list more very soon. I hope a semi-democratic list helps out around here. Seems like OgNasty being DT1 is pretty much useless according to Theymos's definition of how trust should work since his list is basicly empty?

Well opinions is helpful, but at the end of the day you should shape your trust list according to whose ratings you trust. Although some members may add no value to the network by being in DT, that in no way means you should be forced to remove them
legendary
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Started to rework my list. Like others, I was looking at adding users in the wrong way (based on trades). I based my additions on how much they help out and feedback left. I will likely be tweaking this list more very soon. I hope a semi-democratic list helps out around here. Seems like OgNasty being DT1 is pretty much useless according to Theymos's definition of how trust should work since his list is basicly empty?
hero member
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oh and @mexxer: i can read your mind Tongue
Oh ma god, you know all my terrible secrets. How will I ever be able to manipulate you again?  Tongue
Rename it to e-penis system. oh oh and leaving trust will be known as "giving a wank" Cheesy
And "DT" members to be pimps I guess  Cheesy

P.S: Heck even mods get OT many times
legendary
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#Free market
It's a common misconception that one's trust list is a list of people who you extra-special-trust. Really it's a list of people who you believe have given accurate ratings and will continue to do so -- it's not necessary to actually trust them all that much otherwise.
You need to trust someone on your trust list to an extent above giving accurate ratings. As you need to trust them enough to not give their own sock-puppets positive trust for fake trades, which could potentially create a false sense of trustworthiness.


Default trust & trust system are not the right name for this stuff, as I've said few months ago (maybe one day theymos will change the name).

Rename it to e-penis system. oh oh and leaving trust will be known as "giving a wank" Cheesy

oh and @mexxer: i can read your mind Tongue


 Grin  nice name, send a PM to theymos !
legendary
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It's a common misconception that one's trust list is a list of people who you extra-special-trust. Really it's a list of people who you believe have given accurate ratings and will continue to do so -- it's not necessary to actually trust them all that much otherwise.
You need to trust someone on your trust list to an extent above giving accurate ratings. As you need to trust them enough to not give their own sock-puppets positive trust for fake trades, which could potentially create a false sense of trustworthiness.


Default trust & trust system are not the right name for this stuff, as I've said few months ago (maybe one day theymos will change the name).

Rename it to e-penis system. oh oh and leaving trust will be known as "giving a wank" Cheesy

oh and @mexxer: i can read your mind Tongue
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Act #Neutral,Think y'self as a citizen of Universe
A discussion if government is indeed controlling you or not might be a topic for politics and society
That is why I stopped Feeding him.

I even changed the topic title for crying out loud  Grin
Though,It is hard to be on-topic when you change it with every alternate post.  Grin
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I haven't even read the article, but since he never scammed here, I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense. But I guess he will at least be inactive for a while, so I removed him.
The problem with this sort of reasoning (he ain't stolded nothin from me, honor among thieves) is it breeds exactly what we see here today.
In other words yeah, a guy who steals from others is more likely to steal from you than the one who doesn't. Duh.

Theymos is giving him the benefit of doubt incase in the future the news are fake and escrow.ms will have the chance to clear his name up. Thats all for it however he removed him already from DT list so there is no reason to prolong this anymore because as of theymos stated, escrow.ms has never scam anyone here

I'm adressing the "he hasn't scammed anyone here" bit. But if you're interested in giving him "the benefit of the doubt," there is none to give.
According to the articles, he has admitted his role (& exposed others involved) in the scheme. So unless you're suggesting that a reputable Indian publication is lying about some punkass carder...,
The "reputable Indian publication" most likely received their information from the police/government, who they believed to be telling the truth.

Even if the article is accurate in saying that escrow.ms confessed, it is possible the confession was somehow coerced.

I would still put the chances of him being guilty as being fairly high though

Escrow.ms did surely confess of sending btc because he do regularly cash deal I know this. But it doesn't means he knew he was getting funds from atm cards fraud.
The article in the OP said that escrow.ms knew the funds were from the cloned ATM cards.

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"Bhardwaj revealed to us that Sheikh would procure data related to debit/credit cards through his sources," said DCP (crime) Bhisham Singh. "His associates would clone the cards and withdraw the money and send it to Delhi. Sheikh instructed Bhardwaj to transmit the money to Dubai through the bitcoin route."

From what the article is saying, it sounds like escrow.ms was selling BTC (at a premium?) for what he knew to be stolen cash.
legendary
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I haven't even read the article, but since he never scammed here, I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense. But I guess he will at least be inactive for a while, so I removed him.
The problem with this sort of reasoning (he ain't stolded nothin from me, honor among thieves) is it breeds exactly what we see here today.
In other words yeah, a guy who steals from others is more likely to steal from you than the one who doesn't. Duh.

Theymos is giving him the benefit of doubt incase in the future the news are fake and escrow.ms will have the chance to clear his name up. Thats all for it however he removed him already from DT list so there is no reason to prolong this anymore because as of theymos stated, escrow.ms has never scam anyone here

I'm adressing the "he hasn't scammed anyone here" bit. But if you're interested in giving him "the benefit of the doubt," there is none to give.
According to the articles, he has admitted his role (& exposed others involved) in the scheme. So unless you're suggesting that a reputable Indian publication is lying about some punkass carder...,
The "reputable Indian publication" most likely received their information from the police/government, who they believed to be telling the truth.

Even if the article is accurate in saying that escrow.ms confessed, it is possible the confession was somehow coerced.

I would still put the chances of him being guilty as being fairly high though

Escrow.ms did surely confess of sending btc because he do regularly cash deal I know this. But it doesn't means he knew he was getting funds from atm cards fraud.
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Can we get back on topic? I even changed the topic title for crying out loud  Grin . A discussion if government is indeed controlling you or not might be a topic for politics and society

No prob. I vote for you [and] Quickseller.
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Can we get back on topic? I even changed the topic title for crying out loud  Grin . A discussion if government is indeed controlling you or not might be a topic for politics and society
I was just about to say, this topic is becoming very off-topic...
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Can we get back on topic? I even changed the topic title for crying out loud  Grin . A discussion if government is indeed controlling you or not might be a topic for politics and society
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It's for the fringe guys,who don't need more awareness.Why don't you login into .MS account and post because you clearly are an government/bank official, kiddo...not easy to fold the true bitcoiner's Smiley

Lol, yeah, for the lunatic fringe guys. Stay batshit crazy & pathologically paranoid, kiddo Smiley
It is better than a slave Smiley
>Thinking you're not a slave


Lol, keep drinking that Kool-Aid, 'coz that's what they want you to think!
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It's for the fringe guys,who don't need more awareness.Why don't you login into .MS account and post because you clearly are an government/bank official, kiddo...not easy to fold the true bitcoiner's Smiley

Lol, yeah, for the lunatic fringe guys. Stay batshit crazy & pathologically paranoid, kiddo Smiley
It is better than a slave Smiley
full member
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It's for the fringe guys,who don't need more awareness.Why don't you login into .MS account and post because you clearly are an government/bank official, kiddo...not easy to fold the true bitcoiner's Smiley

Lol, yeah, for the lunatic fringe guys. Stay batshit crazy & pathologically paranoid, kiddo Smiley
hero member
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Act #Neutral,Think y'self as a citizen of Universe
It's for the fringe guys,who don't need more awareness.Why don't you login into .MS account and post because you clearly are an government/bank official, kiddo...not easy to fold the true bitcoiner's Smiley
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Do you know what BITCOIN is ? or which type of people get into it ? If NO then learn,If YES then continue.

Sure, I know what Bitcoin is. Odds are, I sold you your first coin.
As to the people who get into it, that varies over time. Those who got into it early on were cryptogeeks, gamblers/recreational chemistry fans/vendors after SR became a thing, and, over the last ~3 years, roughly the same contingent that bought into MMM.

If there's anything else you'd like to know, don't hesitate to ask Smiley

@Quickseller yeah, me too, though I'm not holding my breath. Just find "assum[ing] [...] he is the victim of some government nonsense" is fairly silly. Makes us look like we're on the bleeding edge of the paranoid lunatic fringe.
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Even if the article is accurate in saying that escrow.ms confessed, it is possible the confession was somehow coerced.
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Please. It's possible that the sun doesn't rise tomorrow. I'm betting against it tho.
I am just saying that he is not necessarily 100% certainly to be guilty and that I would be open to believing that he is not guilty if evidence that supports his innocence were to surface in the future (or if there is a lack of evidence that supports his guilt were to ever be presented).

Until the matter is resolved, it is probably best to not actively trust him. 
Again, the gist of my post is this:
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I'm addressing the "he hasn't scammed anyone here" bit.
IMO, a scammer is a scammer, period. It really doesn't matter who they stole from, at least in my eyes
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Act #Neutral,Think y'self as a citizen of Universe
Do you know what BITCOIN is ? or which type of people get into it ? If NO then learn,If YES then continue.
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