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Topic: REMOVE NUBBINS FROM THE DEFAULT TRUST LIST FOR REPEATED TRUST ABUSE - page 3. (Read 15395 times)

legendary
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Techshare, you intentionally create drama where there is none just so you can bring up your theories and complain about the issues you have with the trust system, staff, and forum members. You yell in every one of your posts by typing capital letters. Do you see anyone else doing that? Your theory of people being silenced by the default trust system is irrelevant. You're a perfect example of that. So when you have a valid argument, do you think with the way you're acting you will get any support from the general consensus?
hero member
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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
I think CanaryInTheMine should be removed. His trust list is a big one(it can help too) but almost all people in his trust list are those who have left a positive trust feedback in his profile. Some time ago, he has pruned his trust list but more has to be done.

People on the default trust list do have their trust ratings moderated, so no, that is not completely true.

The trust system is not staff moderated.

It is 'Admin' moderated. Admins can remove negative feedback of other people but it is done on very rare occasions. Theymos can contact CanaryInTheMine or the persons in the DefaultTrust list who trust Nubbins to remove him.

Just because some members communicated and made suggestions doesn't mean that staff moderates trust. Other than blatantly lying about the trust system being moderated do I need to mention again that nubbins is not in Default Trust's trust list?

Like TECSHARE told, he is in level 2 and the default level is 2 in all accounts. So he still has the power.

    -MZ
BG4
legendary
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PaperSafe
Hmm but the trust system is not moderated so you should contact/talk with nubbins. Only him can remove the negative trust, good luck.

People on the default trust list do have their trust ratings moderated, so no, that is not completely true. Furthermore I am arguing that he should be removed from the default trust for his abusive behavior, not that his rating should be removed necessarily.

The trust system is not staff moderated.

Just because some members communicated and made suggestions doesn't mean that staff moderates trust. Other than blatantly lying about the trust system being moderated do I need to mention again that nubbins is not in Default Trust's trust list?

Still I wish you good luck with your vendetta. Same for nubbins by the way.

It is not a lie. Theymos has personally nuked my trust ratings by adding me as a trust exclusion in his trust list because of a single trust rating I left. This not only makes me not trusted by him, but anyone who trusts him (it cascades down the entire default trust list). So even though I have tons of positive ratings going back years, and at least 2 people added me to their trust list, if they also use the default trust, my ratings are negated and it is like they never trusted me. This is just a backdoor system for quiet retribution from the staff that is more destructive than a simple negative rating.

Nubbins is on the default trust level 2. I have no vendetta, I am simply defending my reputation and calling attention to his abusive behavior. If you noticed Nubbins decided to open up a new thread suddenly along with adding a new abusing negative trust rating for the 3rd time. I was under the impression this was done, but clearly Nubbins would like to again address the issue (by abusing the trust system and slandering me).


Tecshare... This is how I see you acting....When I read your posts about default trust.

http://youtu.be/mao-N-LLGYc
legendary
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Hmm but the trust system is not moderated so you should contact/talk with nubbins. Only him can remove the negative trust, good luck.

People on the default trust list do have their trust ratings moderated, so no, that is not completely true. Furthermore I am arguing that he should be removed from the default trust for his abusive behavior, not that his rating should be removed necessarily.

The trust system is not staff moderated.

Just because some members communicated and made suggestions doesn't mean that staff moderates trust. Other than blatantly lying about the trust system being moderated do I need to mention again that nubbins is not in Default Trust's trust list?

Still I wish you good luck with your vendetta. Same for nubbins by the way.

It is not a lie. Theymos has personally nuked my trust ratings by adding me as a trust exclusion in his trust list because of a single trust rating I left. This not only makes me not trusted by him, but anyone who trusts him (it cascades down the entire default trust list). So even though I have tons of positive ratings going back years, and at least 2 people added me to their trust list, if they also use the default trust, my ratings are negated and it is like they never trusted me. This is just a backdoor system for quiet retribution from the staff that is more destructive than a simple negative rating.

Nubbins is on the default trust level 2. I have no vendetta, I am simply defending my reputation and calling attention to his abusive behavior. If you noticed Nubbins decided to open up a new thread suddenly along with adding a new abusing negative trust rating for the 3rd time. I was under the impression this was done, but clearly Nubbins would like to again address the issue (by abusing the trust system and slandering me).
hero member
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I'm a cynic, I'm a quaint
Hmm but the trust system is not moderated so you should contact/talk with nubbins. Only him can remove the negative trust, good luck.

People on the default trust list do have their trust ratings moderated, so no, that is not completely true. Furthermore I am arguing that he should be removed from the default trust for his abusive behavior, not that his rating should be removed necessarily.

The trust system is not staff moderated.

Just because some members communicated and made suggestions doesn't mean that staff moderates trust. Other than blatantly lying about the trust system being moderated do I need to mention again that nubbins is not in Default Trust's trust list?

Still I wish you good luck with your vendetta. Same for nubbins by the way.
legendary
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Hmm but the trust system is not moderated so you should contact/talk with nubbins. Only him can remove the negative trust, good luck.

People on the default trust list do have their trust ratings moderated, so no, that is not completely true. Furthermore I am arguing that he should be removed from the default trust for his abusive behavior, not that his rating should be removed necessarily.
legendary
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There is no point in bringing this back, Wood Collector was a scammer and accounts which support it are probably sockpuppets except bitspill(maybe). If there is any other trust abuse by nubbins, please point it out for me, I may have missed it.

The feedback he put on yours wasn't irrelevant. When I read the thread, I couldn't find suspicious activity from him. He sent you message regarding the mistake and you have paid the amount he asked too. Now what's the cause for 'negative trust feedback'?

   -MZ

I didn't bring this back, he did by leaving me yet another negative rating. You would like some evidence of his abuse? See the OP. There are plenty of examples here right in this thread. The simple fact that he left WC a negative rating before he even had a chance to reply is evidence he never cared about facts, but started out with the intent to harm WCs reputation. (there is still no proof he was a scammer BTW, just accusations and speculation followed by mob action) Additionally he left ratings for people who did little more than support Woodcollector. Some of them for posting just a single sentence!

The trust system is not supposed to be a tool for silencing opposing viewpoints, and it is a convenient unprovable out for him to simply accuse anyone he left negative ratings for as an alt. The trust rating he left for me is an abuse of his position of the default trust, even if you believe his endless excuses for his abuse are "relevant". The trust system is to be used for marking scammers. I didn't lie about anything, he is just slandering me further and using his position on the default trust to retaliate because I spoke out against his abusive behavior. People on the default trust list in the past have been held to much higher standards because the ratings they leave hold much more weight, and he has shown himself to repeatedly be willing to violate those standards.

Hmm but the trust system is not moderated so you should contact/talk with nubbins. Only him can remove the negative trust, good luck.
legendary
Activity: 3318
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There is no point in bringing this back, Wood Collector was a scammer and accounts which support it are probably sockpuppets except bitspill(maybe). If there is any other trust abuse by nubbins, please point it out for me, I may have missed it.

The feedback he put on yours wasn't irrelevant. When I read the thread, I couldn't find suspicious activity from him. He sent you message regarding the mistake and you have paid the amount he asked too. Now what's the cause for 'negative trust feedback'?

   -MZ

I didn't bring this back, he did by leaving me yet another negative rating. You would like some evidence of his abuse? See the OP. There are plenty of examples here right in this thread. The simple fact that he left WC a negative rating before he even had a chance to reply is evidence he never cared about facts, but started out with the intent to harm WCs reputation. (there is still no proof he was a scammer BTW, just accusations and speculation followed by mob action) Additionally he left ratings for people who did little more than support Woodcollector. Some of them for posting just a single sentence!

The trust system is not supposed to be a tool for silencing opposing viewpoints, and it is a convenient unprovable out for him to simply accuse anyone he left negative ratings for as an alt. The trust rating he left for me is an abuse of his position of the default trust, even if you believe his endless excuses for his abuse are "relevant". The trust system is to be used for marking scammers. I didn't lie about anything, he is just slandering me further and using his position on the default trust to retaliate because I spoke out against his abusive behavior. People on the default trust list in the past have been held to much higher standards because the ratings they leave hold much more weight, and he has shown himself to repeatedly be willing to violate those standards.
hero member
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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
There is no point in bringing this back, Wood Collector was a scammer and accounts which support it are probably sockpuppets except bitspill(maybe). If there is any other trust abuse by nubbins, please point it out for me, I may have missed it.

The feedback he put on yours wasn't irrelevant. When I read the thread, I couldn't find suspicious activity from him. He sent you message regarding the mistake and you have paid the amount he asked too. Now what's the cause for 'negative trust feedback'?

   -MZ
legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
Nubbins is at it once again, now leaving me a new negative trust rating for "lying" along with a slanderous post along with it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tecshare-is-a-liar-and-a-vindictive-abuser-of-the-trust-system-969863

Why is Nubbins still on the default trust list? He has abused it 3 times now in order to attack myself as well as others in a sad attempt to try to silence criticism of his abusive behavior.
legendary
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I know you guys love talking about me, but this thread is about how Nubbins abuses the default trust system.

(note: Notice how none of the off topic posts are being removed from this thread? Funny how that works.)




ON TOPIC:

So have you been successful in convincing anyone other than yourself that Nubbins should be removed?

Does the original accusation still stand?

If so can you outline why without all of the conspiracy theories of staff persecution?


~BCX~
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Daniel P. Barron
I know you guys love talking about me, but this thread is about how Nubbins abuses the default trust system.

(note: Notice how none of the off topic posts are being removed from this thread? Funny how that works.)

I think you're right. The "trust" system on this site is supposed to be used to make scammers appear to be trustworthy. Nubbins has abused this by using it to make a scammer look bad. I'm very surprised he is still on the default list.
legendary
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I know you guys love talking about me, but this thread is about how Nubbins abuses the default trust system.

(note: Notice how none of the off topic posts are being removed from this thread? Funny how that works.)
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Lol, there are people that take the 'trust system' on this forum seriously?

You can't tell us that when you see red under someone's name, you are not deterred the least bit? It puts people off IMO...

The negative trust does make me click to see why. I will still trade with them though..obviously not sending first though  Tongue

I think seeing -ve trust score also may induce to always use escrows to deal with such users.  Wink
legendary
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Lol, there are people that take the 'trust system' on this forum seriously?

You can't tell us that when you see red under someone's name, you are not deterred the least bit? It puts people off IMO...

The negative trust does make me click to see why. I will still trade with them though..obviously not sending first though  Tongue
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Lol, there are people that take the 'trust system' on this forum seriously?

You can't tell us that when you see red under someone's name, you are not deterred the least bit? It puts people off IMO...
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Lol, there are people that take the 'trust system' on this forum seriously?
legendary
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words
You go around leaving negative ratings because you disagree with people's opinions. I don't think your word counts for much. Also, the topic is why Nubbins should be removed from default trust, not your lack of knowledge of the trust system.


Back on topic: Nubbins also thinks it is appropriate to obsessively review my recent post history, and then use the trust system to comment on my discussions in "Politics & Society" because some of the topics are controversial (thus an easy method of slander placating to those with opposing viewpoints). Now it is ok to use the trust system for arguing topics in "Politics & Society"? There is a reason trust ratings are disabled there...
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Daniel P. Barron
You have demonstrated ... willingness to abuse trust for personal gain

What if they also slander you without evidence to back up their claims?

EDIT: This is just as serious an accusation as anything else being discussed here. I take my reputation seriously, and request you provide proof of me "demonstrating" willingness to abuse the forum for my personal gain. Without such proof, I'd like to ask the slanderous comment be removed.

Historically slander is not (by view of theymos) a valid reason for giving negative feedback. That was made applicable during the time when neutral feedback didn't even exist.

Historically, the views of a thermos have nothing to do with how a Web of Trust works. But I've been told by a moron that this site doesn't use a Web of Trust; so what do I know?

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You have demonstrated ... willingness to abuse trust for personal gain

What if they also slander you without evidence to back up their claims?

EDIT: This is just as serious an accusation as anything else being discussed here. I take my reputation seriously, and request you provide proof of me "demonstrating" willingness to abuse the forum for my personal gain. Without such proof, I'd like to ask the slanderous comment be removed.

Historically slander is not (by view of theymos) a valid reason for giving negative feedback. That was made applicable during the time when neutral feedback didn't even exist.
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