Topic: REMOVE NUBBINS FROM THE DEFAULT TRUST LIST FOR REPEATED TRUST ABUSE - page 7. (Read 15395 times)

Nepotism requires no collaborative effort, it is perfectly organic. People who your pals get a pass, everyone else gets the shaft. Simple as that. There needs to be no coordinated conspiracy. Additionally, you say "I" keep bringing it up, but who brought it up here? Wasn't me, it was people trying to discredit me using that as some sort of supposed proof.

I keep repeating myself, because staff repeatedly use words referring to my viewpoints such as "conspiracy" to make my assertions seem wild, theoretical, and unrealistic in an attempt to marginalize me and keep people from critically examining my words, and they never stop repeating themselves either at any opportunity.

For about the 1000th time, I don't give a shit about being on the default trust. It is a horrible, destructive, completely ineffective system. If I did why didn't I just remove my rating for Armis so I could stay on it? If that is what I wanted I could have had it. My problem is with the way the staff CLAIM to handle trust disputes and how they ACTUALLY handle trust disputes are two very different things. People like VOD, and Nubbins are allowed to shit all over everyone's reputations, often destroying them in one post, for very clearly personal reasons OVER AND OVER again, but the fact that supposedly abused the trust system once was enough for Theymos himself to rally other staff members, and have me removed.

As far as Salty, Theymos pays his bills. Why would SaltySpitoon not follow a directive from his boss? It is fairly obvious that if anyone was "asked" to do something by their employer, not doing so could potentially lead to loss of employment, if not other issues. You can claim up and down you weren't "forced" to, but your exact words to me were "I am not risking my reputation for you" demonstrating to me you very clearly had something to lose simply by not removing me. So in the end, is that a choice or a mandate?

Isn't this just a very educated, eloquent and politically correct way of saying what I said a couple of weeks ago?


~BCX~

Sad thing is he has said it before, multiple times.
Tecshare ignores it all and says the same thing over and over, and by now most have given up responding to it (incident in question was almost 3 months ago, and he attacks those who do). This style of argument is an informal fallacy commonly known as proof by assertion, typically used by politicians, lawyers, and ad agencies. Sadly it is fairly effective, since most of us are kept busy with the forum.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_assertion

I don't think Tecshare is doing it intentionally though, maybe he is, I don't know.  I think he just has such a high opinion of himself (wish search wasn't down, I've seen some doozies that make this obvious) that he can't bear to think someone may have chosen to remove him from their trust list, and instead chooses to believe it's a collaborative effort by *the man* to damage him. I've seen it many times in various forms, this type of denial is kind of sad to see.

That makes a lot of sense. I in no way meant to make it seem like you were simple minded or the sort. The way you outlined it makes this less personal and more of a honest decision. I understand this a lot better now and its by reading threads like this that allow a better understanding for me on the trust system and even your post alone kind of makes a lot of points in this thread moot when it comes to the removal of persons from default trusts and what not. Thank you for your response.

If I was simple minded maybe, I made a judgement for myself, which I've also addressed 50 times. Its not that in my opinion Tecshare is untrustworthy. I'd still trust Tecshare with my money in a trade, I however removed him from my trustlist because I don't trust him not to get upset and make an irrational unproportionate reactions to situations (My decision, not Theymos/Canaryinthemine/etc's decision). My positive feedback for him for past trades stands, I just don't trust him to leave appropriate feedback for others. Armis was mildly pestering his sales thread, no moderator responded either because they didn't feel it necessary, or they didn't get around to reading it, and the situation played out from there. As I've said in the Remove Nubbins/Vod/etc etc threads in meta, I don't care because Nubbins/Vod aren't my responsibility, as I don't have either of them on my trust network. Its not subjective enforcement of the rules, its just that moderator's don't have Nubbins/Vod on their trust lists, so they have no reason to respond. (besides Badbear who has addressed his stance on Vod)

As much as I dig the sarcasm, its not really the direction I was going. I did not say that they had to, just that the idea of anothers judgement could alter the direction toward the end result, from a psychological standpoint that is. This is just how we as human ideology works. How things are stated or presented have more impact on us and this is seen in every aspect of our lives from TV to Radio and what ever else you want to throw in the mix.

But but but.... If Theymos (your "employer") recommends you basically have to obey... Right right? The whole premise is ridiculous to begin with and while it's good that SaltySpitoon came out to explicitly state this it is ridiculous that they had too....


You must be aware that your supposed alias count is officially over 9000, right? Your actual aliases... Are not really relevant for me.

But isn't this kind of a nudge in that direction? That statement alone would linger in your mind before you even took a look at the meta thread that was sent from Thymos. It could be said that this aided a decision before facts were even placed in front of you.

This has been covered many times, to address the last 10 or so comments since this is about Nubbins and not Tecshare, so this thread can get back to what the OP is about. I was not "ordered" to remove Tecshare by Theymos, I recieved 7 Pms from different people telling me to check out the thread about and consider removing him from my trust list. Theymos too pmed Canaryinthemine and myself the meta link, asked that we read it, and said, "I'd recommend removing Tecshare" with no underlying threat or anything else. There was not a threat of removal from Default trust by Theymos to Canaryinthemine or myself.

That said, @Bitcoinexpress Tecshare is not jrretirement nor do I believe he is Woodcollector.

I don't see anything about conspiracies in there, but I am sure hearing a lot about them in this thread. What is my supposed alias count now? 3, 4? It is what cowards around here do when they have no other arguments. Accuse you of something you can never disprove.

He has almost certainly read the initial request and probably a bit of the discussion of this thread, if not all. He does give his input when it is needed you can verify this by visiting numerous meta threads. To be quite honest this particular instance doesn't need to be addressed by him. If he feels the need to pitch in I'm sure he will.

Does Thymos ever come in here and shed some light on a lot of this? It seems a lot of this could just come to an end if he would just come in and leave some type of input. The only people really speaking are those for one side or another which is more of a bias to the topic and the people involved. Is there no mediation?

This is just a lie. I never accused Theymos, Badbear, Saltyspitoon, or you of trying to "ruin my online life" (a phrase I never once used ever). VOD abused the trust system to attempt to intimidate me into silence because I was speaking out about his own trust system abuse, and pointing out that the staff let him do this over and over, while people such as myself are removed over the most minor of individual incidents.

This happened after I was removed from the default trust by Canaryinthemine and Saltyspitoon, in salty's case he was given a directive from his EMPLOYER (Theymos) to remove me. When your employer asks you to do something, that is pretty much an order. If you want to see why I was REALLY removed from the default trust you can read about it here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/staff-hypocrisy-and-selective-enforcement-of-rules-853522
(here is another post for you to necro and off topic post all over smoothie)

TECSHARE losing all the e-battles... Should level up with some more personality points first, and try again

I didn't remove him but a couple of the others did.

MY LETTERS ARE BIG AND RED

Your argument is irrelevant.

I haven't kept up with it.

Why was he removed from the Default Trust List?

Link?

So you are now the spokes person for Woodcollector.....   Woodcollector is a sham , that would make you a sham.   You have been cought with your hand up woodcollectors ass with woodcollectors video on your domain. I understand why you dont want to pull your hand out now... All you are is SMOKE AND MIRRORS as you  try to save your woodcollector puppet.... I have read your entire 3 years worth of BullShit....  Something just doesnt Smell right..... So just leave your hand right where its at.....


This Paragraph makes you a sham.....  after reading all you Bullshit.... I think Im going to nickname you ...Jim Henson because you have been running one hell of a muppet show......

YOU ARE A SHAM..... plain and simple....

How long has it been since this whole shitfest started, what like 8 days? So he produced a video that did not meet the stringent and constantly shifting standards of the mob right away rushing to try to get something out. It is a fair amount of work to stop his lifes normal activities, set up a proper camera setup, carve the piece from start to finish, then a very long time to upload the high resolution video. Meanwhile the whole time everyone is already making their conclusions even before the first video was posted. That is not "weasling", that is just everyone jumping to even more conclusions. More video is on the way. I suggest people suspend their judgement until then.

Don't mention it. Harassment is the last thing you'd need you receive for doing something good.