Topic: REMOVE NUBBINS FROM THE DEFAULT TRUST LIST FOR REPEATED TRUST ABUSE - page 6. (Read 15395 times)

I think it's best to stop posting in this thread... It's clear that it doesn't matter what you post, insanity will continue... So maybe considering not responding is better, at least that's what I'm doing now. Unwatched and disabled notifications on this thread.

So you weren't posting over and over in that thread chastising me? Sure looked like you were.

Also you personally contacted Canaryinthemine to ask him to review the thread did you not? That does not sound like no involvement to me.

I PMed Hilariousandco and asked him to speak on my behalf because I had cooperated with him more than once in the past to prune people he had found to be untrustworthy from my trust ratings. I assumed that this was evidence I cared about the default trust list's integrity, but according to him I was asking him to "shill" for me. This is not getting involved? This is adding to the shit slinging simply for asking him to speak in regards to my past behavior. Of course that didn't stop him from slinging shit for page after page then following me to other threads to do the same.

I PMed Hilariousandco and asked him to speak on my behalf because I had cooperated with him more than once in the past to prune people he had found to be untrustworthy from my trust ratings. I assumed that this was evidence I cared about the default trust list's integrity, but according to him I was asking him to "shill" for me. This is not getting involved? This is adding to the shit slinging simply for asking him to speak in regards to my past behavior. Of course that didn't stop him from slinging shit for page after page then following me to other threads to do the same.

hilariousandco did not post in the thread until he was responding to a PM from you soliciting support in the thread in question. I believe that he didn't actually post in it until you were officially removed from the default trust network (he actually posted immediately after BadBear confirmed that he excluded you from his trust list - thread in question). As to hilariousandco sending a PM to CITM, I have no idea however it wouldn't matter because by the time he removed your name, you were no longer in the default trust network. BadBear was essentially telling you that your trust feedback was inappropriate very early on in the thread.

Ironically BadBear has excluded Nubbins from his trust list, so even if CITM does not remove him from his trust list, it will only take one more person that is trusted by DefaultTrust to exclude him in order from him to be removed from the default trust network. Since CITM has more or less demonstrated that he is not interested in removing Nubbins from his trust list, the only way that he will be removed is from trust exclusions.

Said the Bitcointalk mall cop.

Bitcointalk volunteer police force.

Don't shoot, officer!

So you weren't posting over and over in that thread chastising me? Sure looked like you were. Also you personally contacted Canaryinthemine to ask him to review the thread did you not? That does not sound like no involvement to me.


PS, back to the actual topic of this thread, why is it ok Nubbins has still not removed his negative trust rating for UKCrypto even though he has proved beyond a doubt that he is not an alt of WoodCollector? Isn't this just more punitive punishment using the default trust system to punish people who dare disagree with him?

What are you, his dad? It's none of your fuckin concern. Mind your own business.

PS, back to the actual topic of this thread, why is it ok Nubbins has still not removed his negative trust rating for UKCrypto even though he has proved beyond a doubt that he is not an alt of WoodCollector? Isn't this just more punitive punishment using the default trust system to punish people who dare disagree with him?

No I didn't. I had absolutely nothing to do with you being removed, but it was the right decision. You just didn't like that fact and because I was vocal about it.

RE: Keyzer Soze



Theymos, Badbear, and Hilariousandco took it upon themselves to lead the rallying cry to remove me.... even though they were not the ones who added me to their trust list, and they had no reason to respond, yet they did.

Its not subjective enforcement of the rules, its just that moderator's don't have Nubbins/Vod on their trust lists, so they have no reason to respond. (besides Badbear who has addressed his stance on Vod)

Nepotism requires no collaborative effort, it is perfectly organic. People who your pals get a pass, everyone else gets the shaft. Simple as that. There needs to be no coordinated conspiracy. Additionally, you say "I" keep bringing it up, but who brought it up here? Wasn't me, it was people trying to discredit me using that as some sort of supposed proof.

I keep repeating myself, because staff repeatedly use words referring to my viewpoints such as "conspiracy" to make my assertions seem wild, theoretical, and unrealistic in an attempt to marginalize me and keep people from critically examining my words, and they never stop repeating themselves either at any opportunity.

For about the 1000th time, I don't give a shit about being on the default trust. It is a horrible, destructive, completely ineffective system. If I did why didn't I just remove my rating for Armis so I could stay on it? If that is what I wanted I could have had it. My problem is with the way the staff CLAIM to handle trust disputes and how they ACTUALLY handle trust disputes are two very different things. People like VOD, and Nubbins are allowed to shit all over everyone's reputations, often destroying them in one post, for very clearly personal reasons OVER AND OVER again, but the fact that supposedly abused the trust system once was enough for Theymos himself to rally other staff members, and have me removed.

As far as Salty, Theymos pays his bills. Why would SaltySpitoon not follow a directive from his boss? It is fairly obvious that if anyone was "asked" to do something by their employer, not doing so could potentially lead to loss of employment, if not other issues. You can claim up and down you weren't "forced" to, but your exact words to me were "I am not risking my reputation for you" demonstrating to me you very clearly had something to lose simply by not removing me. So in the end, is that a choice or a mandate?

If I was simple minded maybe, I made a judgement for myself, which I've also addressed 50 times. Its not that in my opinion Tecshare is untrustworthy. I'd still trust Tecshare with my money in a trade, I however removed him from my trustlist because I don't trust him not to get upset and make an irrational unproportionate reactions to situations (My decision, not Theymos/Canaryinthemine/etc's decision). My positive feedback for him for past trades stands, I just don't trust him to leave appropriate feedback for others. Armis was mildly pestering his sales thread, no moderator responded either because they didn't feel it necessary, or they didn't get around to reading it, and the situation played out from there. As I've said in the Remove Nubbins/Vod/etc etc threads in meta, I don't care because Nubbins/Vod aren't my responsibility, as I don't have either of them on my trust network. Its not subjective enforcement of the rules, its just that moderator's don't have Nubbins/Vod on their trust lists, so they have no reason to respond. (besides Badbear who has addressed his stance on Vod)

default trust. It is a horrible, destructive, completely ineffective system.