Topic: Retirement Age for Workers - Does this Make Sense? (Read 1422 times)

Different heads, different contents.... And yes, everyone has different thought patterns and opinions, but don't let us be easily influenced by other people, you intend to build a better future, but because there is a whispers from other people, you change your perspective and prefer to enjoy your youth by relaxing and having fun, while whatever your future holds, it's up to God to decide.

Therefore, what you say is true, that we must have strong life principles, so that we are not easily influenced by other people, not easily confused with stupid things, especially thoughts that lead us to bad things and misery. And the environment or relationships are the main factors for a person in choosing a life principle and finding an identity. Therefore, it is important for us to sort and choose relationships, choose an association that actually invites goodness and can encourage us to be more enthusiastic about becoming better.

Here in my country early retirement starts at 60 and some other people here choose 65 as their retirement age. Though numbers differ in any parts of the world but yeah that is the the old workers enjoy the fruit of their hard work. Salute to these people who really has huge contribution to the economy sacrificing their personal wants to cater the need of their families. My mother is actually one of them she retired working at the age of 60 and now she got small monthly pension enough to be used for their daily needs. That is the reason why I had to work smart to repay their sacrifices when I was a kid. It's not a responsibility as what others might say but family is a family.

yes there are also people like that, because maybe he doesn't have a complete family, for example he only lives alone so it's possible that this person has a family only in his work environment where his coworkers at work they consider as family, and even though the boss has told him to quit but if he is comfortable in that place, it's likely that he won't leave the job even though it's not because of finances but about his coworkers who are already considered as family.
And I think it also depends on the individual, you mentioned "we" not "me", I don't think everyone invests at a young age because like the story I launched earlier there are also some people who spend their money in their youth because they don't think long so they choose to spend money in their youth by having fun. "Helping elderly people enjoy their retirement without working but getting assistance from the government. "That's good, because if it's like this I think this government can see the society around it, because in my country this doesn't happen often. many people who are elderly but still work to meet their own needs or their family's needs and maybe for other reasons, I don't know myself clearly but what I see is like that.

Depend on each individual because not all of old age should enjoying their life with family because they have burdens and liabilities that must be paid off. Actually we are on the young age have prepare well investment assets in the future and raise old age not keep working exactly in my environment they have spent more than 8 hours in daily to work with cheapest salary payment. Right position for children can get stability financial and help our parent not have to work on older their age.
In some countries have regulation can't allow the older for working in the company but they helped with giving all insurance needed by old people, good solution for helping old people enjoying retired their life without work but get help from government.

Well, this is interesting, basically people's thoughts are different, and as you said, I think your comment reflects someone who doesn't think about their future where they prefer to spend their money to enjoy their youth. That's not completely wrong, because it is everyone's right, especially if they do that but also don't forget to save, that's better. and in my opinion, people like this tend to have short-sighted thinking, because all they do is spend their money to have fun in their youth and not have any benefit in their old age.
and you said about death, I say once again everyone's thoughts are different, why do I think more about youth, because when I worked hard at a young age and wanted to live to enjoy old age by relaxing and enjoying the results of my hard work and if indeed I died, is it all over? I don't think so, because when I have enough results to enjoy and I die, the results that I should have enjoyed can be enjoyed by the rest of my family, maybe my sister, wife, or other relatives, also if they have I think they have a good mindset and will continue all of this to make it into another business that should produce results too. In my opinion, nothing is in vain in this world if we do it with good intentions, but as I said, every person's thoughts are different. is this helpful enough?

because I have my own principles in life.

And then after that there are stupid people asking, why are you tired of working hard and fighting tooth and nail for old age, even though God doesn't necessarily give us a long life? Why collect money to save and invest here and there just because you think that in a few years you will decide to retire and enjoy this time with your family. Who knows, maybe before you retire, you might die? And in the end you won't be able to enjoy the results of your hard work that you have accumulated, except for your funeral costs. And instead of doing all that, it's better to just use the money to have fun and enjoy your youth.

That's a series of stupid questions and statements that I often encounter. They really can't think long, and think like this, that it's better for me to spend my youth full of effort and hard work without having to forget to enjoy the process, and also stay focused on building a better future. because who knows, God will give us a long life. And if you have to die young, everything will not be in vain, because wealth and objects can be passed on to the family. And if in fact we are given a long life, then we can enjoy everything together with our family.

I agree with this, old age should be enjoyed well, because old age in my opinion should spend a lot of time with family, a person who has a good mindset I think they will work hard at a young age because they know old age is no longer a time to work, with them working hard at a young age it will produce in the future and when in old age they only have to enjoy it, But on the other hand, where there are families that are economically disadvantaged, it is possible that old people still work because they have to support their families by fulfilling their basic needs, because there are families that are not able to generate stable finances, or the absence of complete family members makes one old person still have to work even though they are old.
And in my opinion, I think it all depends on the person, but as I said before, we should work hard at a young age so that in old age we can enjoy it and not work anymore.

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If you feel sorry for the person, then dismissal or layoff is the wrong decision. Because if you stop it, that person will lose their livelihood and income, so that it will be very difficult for that person to fulfill their needs. Indeed, if we are talking about a desire, a person really wants themselves to be able to retire as soon as possible, but because conditions make it impossible, they choose to continue working because there are demands and needs that they fulfill. And if only someone had enough savings, I'm sure that person would have decided long ago to retire. If you are kind enough, then don't fire the person, but give him a lighter job and if you are determined to fire him, then give him an allowance so that at least he has enough money to survive.



If you feel sorry for the person, then dismissal or layoff is the wrong decision. Because if you stop it, that person will lose their livelihood and income, so that it will be very difficult for that person to fulfill their needs. Indeed, if we are talking about a desire, a person really wants themselves to be able to retire as soon as possible, but because conditions make it impossible, they choose to continue working because there are demands and needs that they fulfill. And if only someone had enough savings, I'm sure that person would have decided long ago to retire. If you are kind enough, then don't fire the person, but give him a lighter job and if you are determined to fire him, then give him an allowance so that at least he has enough money to survive.

Indeed, old age is a time to enjoy peace and happiness with family. but when you experience serious economic and financial problems, let alone being able to live happily, being able to live in peace becomes something that is difficult to obtain.
And starting from this, it is important for us to be able to prepare everything later, lest we also suffer the same fate as people feel, where we continue to work in our old age.

That makes sense, many of them work to meet their needs, sometimes there are also those who don't like their work but they still work and this may be due to factors related to their economic needs which must be met every day. However, in my opinion, it feels unethical if they have reached old age but are still working, they should just rest and spend time with their own family, because I am a person who always feels sorry, so if I were a boss and had an old employee, I would tell him to to just rest at home and spend a lot of time with their own family.

because in my opinion old age is no longer for working, but for enjoying periods of peace, life in old age should be enjoyed with things that make them happy, because there are people who don't like their work but still force themselves to work because of economic factors . but it is also up to them themselves to determine everything, as long as they think it is good then I will support it.

As far as I know, each country has different laws that apply to the retirement age for working in the government, as I have read and seen in several countries.
For example:

In this case, if we talk about the economy, of course the impact on pensions aged 60-64 will definitely be on you, especially benefits being cut, so that pensioners have to look for other additions to cover their economic needs, In this case, I don't agree that those who work in government have a retirement age of 60-64. I agree that if the retirement age is 68-70, maybe this action is more mature to consider.

In my opinion, if the government increases the retirement age, of course there is a clear reason to retain them, as you said, with the experience and expertise they have, it is certainly natural to retain them, but in my opinion, if the government continues to retain them for a few more years, of course the generation that wants to develop will less interested in developing themselves to be able to replace those who have reached their retirement age.
I really agree with what you said, it is better to give young people the opportunity to have skills like theirs and give pensions to those who have reached retirement age to enjoy time with their families while they still have time.

The percentage of people who work because they want to is very small, but most people work because of needs that must be met, and it is true, as you said, that each person has a different portion.
However, in my opinion, the retirement age cannot be set by someone else, even if we are workers in someone else's company, it all comes down to ourselves, even though every job, whether in the government or private sector, has its own age limit rules.
But what I mean is that our desire to work can be regulated by ourselves. For example, for those who want to retire early from work and enjoy life, they must prepare carefully before deciding on this, prepare savings or other things that can meet their needs in When he doesn't work later, it's easy in my opinion because we can do whatever we want as long as we are able to prepare in advance.

I agreed that government should not forcefully retain it employees after attaining the mandatory retirement age or increase retirement age, it should be optional though majority of them would opt to leave however their wealth of experience would still be needed especially workers or expertise in health sector, technology, etc it might be very difficult for government to replace some of these key sector of the government replacing them with newly recruited employees isn't a bad idea though I prefer those employees who are about to retire retrain the newly recruited employees thereafter release them to retire because their productivity would wane as they aged in the job.

Based on different countries, the retirement ages based on different career has a particular years when they will ask workers to retire because the brain and mode of faculty may no longer be able to help continue the job. It is important for us as we are getting to the age of retirement, we need to make sure that we save for the time when we can no longer work again or make money for ourselves. Retirement age is a age when we might not longer have the strength to work or do things on our own the way we used to do before.

Each country has different rules including the retirement age for workers and it makes sense to me the policy taken by the French government. Every year thousands of young graduates are born after they have graduated in academics. Limiting the retirement age for government workers can open up new job vacancies for those who meet the requirements.
Regeneration must be carried out in order to create prosperity in an area, the government also plays an important role in taking policies so that the number of unemployed decreases. Creating new jobs is the best solution to maintain economic stability and equality for those who are qualified to work in certain sectors.

By the way, there is 60 years of retirement in our country, but some people do not want to retire even at 60 years. Once someone gets recruited in a government organization, after that his health and performance is never looked at. Work in government offices is not difficult, but even then government employees do not work. Therefore, if retirement is kept in terms of performance, I think his performance will be excellent even after sixty years.

Skill increases with age, but efficiency and power decline. In our country, the only job of a government official is to sign a file, and this performance can be continued for 100 years. Sometimes they find this work very difficult, the actual fact is that they are a burden on the institutions, who do not give any benefit to the institution despite taking huge salaries. Therefore, it is better to retire early those who are not beneficial to the organization.

In my country, the government official age retired around 60 years old not matter with their condition keep healthy or not have retired and indirectly loss his job. Government official work is not really hard and I little agree with age retire because many people still keep working although their age over 60 years old. I little agree with some one have get an older their skill will decrease as on government official working they have much experienced than beginner and easily work although on older age.

Some one in freelance seems not have retired age exactly their working not schedule yet as government official work, they spent which one worth time for working and get holiday difference with the other and likely if get controlling skill and manage good time they will not has retire age.

Retirement for civil servants has both good and bad effects on retirees. As a civil servant, you are supposed to retire at a certain age when the physical strength has derailed, so that the younger ones will continue to give effective results in the work environment. But, this has to come with a mouth-watering incentive that will help the retiree sustain his / her self and family, to avoid retiring to poverty. The bad side of this is mostly caused by the government. The failure of the government to pay that retiree when due has caused a lot of menace in society. Making some of them go into depression, which sometimes leads to death.

We do know that there would really be those poor people and there would be those ones who are in the middle or shall we say on average. This is why when we do get old, it would be always better that you should really be getting those life insurances at least of trying out to have some savings and dont tend to relying into your children when they do gets old because they would really be having their own family
in the future and dont expect that they would really be there just for you when you do get old. This is why it would be always that ideal that you should really that make yourself that prepared at
least so that you wont really be that get disappointed on the time that your children wont really be minding on both of you together with your wife.

This is why it would really be that best that you should really be that wise and prepared. Getting retired early? this is what we do wish for but if we do still have
tons of responsibilities specially into our family then its really that hard on doing such thing. There are ones how do really still love to do work
but due to age they are really that mandatory for retirement.