This very far from the standard of productive age but, I'm confused even though the working period for retirement is definitely different for each. For my country if he is a educators (Teachers) the retirement age limit is 60 years and for ordinary employees it is 58 years old.
But what you convey is true, the government through their staffing agency there should review it by making policies and regulating this matter in a relevant manner and giving awards for services to those who have dedicated time and knowledge to the country.
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Regardless, what I think is that the government shouldn't shove it down the throat of people. Workers who are approaching retirement age should be given a choice after appraisal to keep working or retire.
What sense does this make? Would you agree or disagree?
even bill gates and steve wozniak said honestly that their abilities in old age are now declining, it's different from when they were young, especially since coding continues to progress, so both of them prefer to retire and only get involved behind the scenes.Regardless, what I think is that the government shouldn't shove it down the throat of people. Workers who are approaching retirement age should be given a choice after appraisal to keep working or retire.
What sense does this make? Would you agree or disagree?
from the story above, it is clear that a decline in performance will occur as age gets older, so there is nothing wrong with setting the retirement age for workers, and we cannot deny that there are many young people looking for work every day, with the setting of pension rules, their opportunities to compete in the world of work are also wide open.
Yes I think there should be an age for retirement.People who work for 20/25 years in various companies and government jobs.At some point they become old and they can't retain their previous work skills.I think there should be an age for retirement.By doing this they will be able to spend some time with their family and alone after their working life.I think they should go to retirement and they will spend the rest of their lives on their pension money.
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France's Constitutional Council on Friday approved an unpopular plan to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64, in a victory for President Emmanuel Macron after three months of mass protests over the legislation that have damaged his leadership.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-retirement-age-raise-64-approved-constitutional-council/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-retirement-age-raise-64-approved-constitutional-council/
This so-called measure has several benefits and drawbacks. The elder employees can benefit from their years of experience if they are retained on the job for longer, which is one advantage. The drawback of this is that many workplaces will report low performance because there is an inverse relationship between a person's success at work and their deterioration in cognitive and physical capacities.
Regardless, what I think is that the government shouldn't shove it down the throat of people. Workers who are approaching retirement age should be given a choice after appraisal to keep working or retire.
What sense does this make? Would you agree or disagree?
The problem of pensions is of course something that the state must do so that there is a better change, of course people who are going to retire must provide or transfer experience, the best thing to transfer experience of course depends on the situation, if the candidate for retirement has a lot of experience then you can transfer 3 years before retirement.
Yes I think that they should give a choice for their employees specially if they had been in the company for a long time,
but at the same time I see why they want them to retire as knowledgeable as they are due to their long term work experience being old also have it's negative side: getting slower at work, and of course they also care about the accuracy what if they starts to be forgetful? and not to forget about the health risk.
many people who retire and are in good want to work they feel bad for not being able to work - had I been the one who would decide I would reemployee people who are retired and are in good health but at the same time I see why they want them to retire as knowledgeable as they are due to their long term work experience being old also have it's negative side: getting slower at work, and of course they also care about the accuracy what if they starts to be forgetful? and not to forget about the health risk.
Yes I think that they should give a choice for their employees specially if they had been in the company for a long time,
but at the same time I see why they want them to retire as knowledgeable as they are due to their long term work experience being old also have it's negative side: getting slower at work, and of course they also care about the accuracy what if they starts to be forgetful? and not to forget about the health risk.
but at the same time I see why they want them to retire as knowledgeable as they are due to their long term work experience being old also have it's negative side: getting slower at work, and of course they also care about the accuracy what if they starts to be forgetful? and not to forget about the health risk.
Just like we have drawbacks with extension of retirement age there are also benefits and which side of the dice it falls on depends on the individual in question. A worker who is aged 60-65years and still open to innovation, creativity, new ideas can be more productive than a younger worker who is naive
What sense does this make? Would you agree or disagree?
Of course the policy will have pros and cons. But I personally agree if retirement is added. It's good that the French Constitutional Council provides an opportunity for the retirement age up to 64. Because in a country like Japan, people are old too, if they are still strong, work has never been stopped. so there are still many old people who are healthy, active and creative. Because they are still using their energy to make them healthy, not many are unemployed. 
If a company takes care of her employees, they wouldn't be bothered when an employee is approaching retirement because they know that that employee would have passed down the necessary skills, and knowledge needed to excel at the job and meet the organization's vision and mission. On the other hand, it is really hard to see employees who stay up to 5 years at a job. There is no company loyalty anymore as it was in the past where you could easily find an employee who has worked there for 30 plus years. Lastly, an employee who has reached retirement age may decided to stay back as a no executive or play the role of a consultant but must do any job because if they do they are taking up space for the younger generation.
If this is for government civil work, of course there must be a limit for retirement, even if they retire, of course, their experience is very much needed so that they can be placed in special training so that what they get can be immediately adopted by the next generation or successors.
Civil servants who are retired do not necessarily have to share their experiences with other people or with civil servants who are still actively working because usually civil servants who retire are due to their old age and even if they want to be used in training places it will not be very effective because usually people who are too old, the way of teaching will be slightly different from those who are still not retired. So there is no need to force someone who has retired to share his experience through a training because retirement is a time to rest for him.PNS who are retired are civil servants who are old and respect them by giving them time to rest in their old age, I agree with you.
If this is for government civil work, of course there must be a limit for retirement, even if they retire, of course, their experience is very much needed so that they can be placed in special training so that what they get can be immediately adopted by the next generation or successors.
Civil servants who are retired do not necessarily have to share their experiences with other people or with civil servants who are still actively working because usually civil servants who retire are due to their old age and even if they want to be used in training places it will not be very effective because usually people who are too old, the way of teaching will be slightly different from those who are still not retired. So there is no need to force someone who has retired to share his experience through a training because retirement is a time to rest for him. 
If this is for government civil work, of course there must be a limit for retirement, even if they retire, of course, their experience is very much needed so that they can be placed in special training so that what they get can be immediately adopted by the next generation or successors.
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France's Constitutional Council on Friday approved an unpopular plan to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64, in a victory for President Emmanuel Macron after three months of mass protests over the legislation that have damaged his leadership.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-retirement-age-raise-64-approved-constitutional-council/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-retirement-age-raise-64-approved-constitutional-council/
This so-called measure has several benefits and drawbacks. The elder employees can benefit from their years of experience if they are retained on the job for longer, which is one advantage. The drawback of this is that many workplaces will report low performance because there is an inverse relationship between a person's success at work and their deterioration in cognitive and physical capacities.
Regardless, what I think is that the government shouldn't shove it down the throat of people. Workers who are approaching retirement age should be given a choice after appraisal to keep working or retire.
What sense does this make? Would you agree or disagree?
It's a necessity and should be treated as such. The population of Europe is growing old and combined with low birth rate it's a potential disaster. Soon there will simple not be enough people to pay the pensions for the existing pensioners. In some countries the increase is not so dramatic (62 to 64 in France) while in some it's more radical (60 to 65 for example). In any case, we'll have to adapt to that, otherwise the whole pension system will collapse.
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France's Constitutional Council on Friday approved an unpopular plan to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64, in a victory for President Emmanuel Macron after three months of mass protests over the legislation that have damaged his leadership.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-retirement-age-raise-64-approved-constitutional-council/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-retirement-age-raise-64-approved-constitutional-council/
This so-called measure has several benefits and drawbacks. The elder employees can benefit from their years of experience if they are retained on the job for longer, which is one advantage. The drawback of this is that many workplaces will report low performance because there is an inverse relationship between a person's success at work and their deterioration in cognitive and physical capacities.
Regardless, what I think is that the government shouldn't shove it down the throat of people. Workers who are approaching retirement age should be given a choice after appraisal to keep working or retire.
What sense does this make? Would you agree or disagree?
But the minimum and maximum retirement age limits in each country are very different. and in my country, Indonesia is one of the countries with an earlier retirement age.
But it all depends on the type of field entered. Just as a civil servant in a country holds the position of an expert in a particular field, the maximum retirement age is usually raised to 65 years. because it is difficult to find a substitute who can replace a veteran expert in a field.
and I feel the rules in my country are the most comfortable. and I agree with the regulations in my country. but for other countries as OP listed. I don't know the situation there. and what is the level of health and fitness there at that age. so those who can judge maybe from the residents there.
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This case is different from my country because there was a plan around eight years ago now that you can choose to retire at whatever age you plan to in government work and you will be given all benefits for those years if you follow the due process so the age increment is not a do or die affair some people will like while some won't,so you choose.
Now people are not looking for the long term jobs. They are now looking for the business which can help them grow.
Not really, if there's an opportunity to work for long-term jobs. There will be people that are quick as a flash to take it as long as the opportunity permits them to stay for the long term. People want security and this is a real thing while everyone wishes to have a business and grow with it. For most starters, having a job is a sign of having no failure at all but if it's for having another source of income then business is the other source that we're thinking of. That's why even if there have been people on their jobs and they've worked for so long and even they're already old, they won't just leave it because there's the stable income that they get from it. No offense to both parties but wherever you're happy and earning hard earned money, that's the best place where we can be as long as we're happy and enjoying.Now people are not looking for the long term jobs. They are now looking for the business which can help them grow.
Not really, if there's an opportunity to work for long-term jobs. There will be people that are quick as a flash to take it as long as the opportunity permits them to stay for the long term. People want security and this is a real thing while everyone wishes to have a business and grow with it. For most starters, having a job is a sign of having no failure at all but if it's for having another source of income then business is the other source that we're thinking of. That's why even if there have been people on their jobs and they've worked for so long and even they're already old, they won't just leave it because there's the stable income that they get from it. No offense to both parties but wherever you're happy and earning hard earned money, that's the best place where we can be as long as we're happy and enjoying.But most people do not life sitting idol
they want to work and they have enrgy too. I have seen people health detirate during their stay at home retirment days
Now people are not looking for the long term jobs. They are now looking for the business which can help them grow.
Not really, if there's an opportunity to work for long-term jobs. There will be people that are quick as a flash to take it as long as the opportunity permits them to stay for the long term. People want security and this is a real thing while everyone wishes to have a business and grow with it. For most starters, having a job is a sign of having no failure at all but if it's for having another source of income then business is the other source that we're thinking of. That's why even if there have been people on their jobs and they've worked for so long and even they're already old, they won't just leave it because there's the stable income that they get from it. No offense to both parties but wherever you're happy and earning hard earned money, that's the best place where we can be as long as we're happy and enjoying. 
I think this is a serious topic, there are a lot of worker that still wanted to work because thier condition is still good even if they are old, and there are also wanted thier retirement fee because they have a health problem, so for me it is a good option to asked the worker if they can still work with thier age, i think it depend on the health not on the age.
I slightly agree with what you are saying, because at this time there are still old and old people who still want to sell in the market to get money. That means they are still healthy enough to continue working and earning money in their lives, because in fact at this time there are also young people who are no longer able to work to earn money due to being hindered by their health and even because they are completely paralyzed in their life. So I agree more that working is not all about age, but health because young people can't work when they are sick. Jump to: