Topic: Retirement Age for Workers - Does this Make Sense? - page 5. (Read 1570 times)

In my opinion retirement age is beneficial in two ways first of all the government thinks about the rest of that person because after age of 60 a person is not active in managing duties so rest will be needed and other benefit is that there is an opportunity for other individuals to take part in that job because there is large number of individuals who are jobless so this is a good feature to provide opportunity to new comers to join the field.

 Although it is true that elder person has lots of experience but this will deprived the other individuals to get a job because that experienced person will always choose for that seat and remaining will not get any job because of little or no experience so this is one of the major drawback if retirement age is not limited.

What is the reason for this governement retirement pool? Basically it is creating mismanagement of funds and bureaucacy. Basically you can give the money in the hand of the worker and can let him organize his own retirement plan.

I think the reason for the governement controled retirement pool was to protect financial unedicated workers from losing their retirement investment. So maybe the centralization is the better of two evils. And if you have f.E. the centralized mismanagement and the bureaucracy, than it is okay to raise the retirement age. Basically you can retire with 40 in France. But you will not live good with this small social benefits and the retirement money then with 67. Same fish, different speared.

In my opinion, the age of 64 is very old, it is no longer productive if you are forced to work, in my country, the retirement is 55-60 years. You should give opportunities to those who are younger.

So wrong decision. Because
1. Narrowing down young people who want to find work.
2. It is certain that the level of worker productivity has decreased, it will have a big impact on the company.
President Emmanuel Macron has ignored everything for the sake of the income that the state has received from 2 years of rotating workers' pensions.

Workers' retirement ages vary depending on their country, employment sector, profession, and personal preferences. In most nations, the retirement age is between 60 and 70 years old. Nevertheless, due to the aging population and the pressures it places on government pension schemes, several countries are steadily raising retirement age.

It would be understandable that there should really be that some sort of retirement age or limit on which a certain worker should really be retiring because it would be that normal that efficiency of a certain worker would really be greatly be affected as we do reach up the old age. Yes, we do really have that experience on which those young workers doesnt really have but sooner or later they would be able to gain those experience.
Plus, it is really just that right time for those old workers to take retirement and better to relax than to do some job which isnt really that just that right for them to get stressed or worked hard for.
Therefore, they wouldnt really be giving a choice on proceeding but rather they would really be giving a choice on having that optional retirement if they would decide on retiring earlier.

This one does have sense because if they wont really be putting up limits then for sure we would be seeing lots of oldies that would be staying up into their work until they wouldnt be able to move
or would be simply dying.

Each country has different age limits. And indeed it has been adjusted with analytical data related to the majority of the work effectiveness and health of the population in that country at that age.

It's just that sometimes the actual retirement age limit can't be too much of a problem. What's more important is how we should keep our bodies healthy and strong until our retirement age. because now there are even many people who have complained about their health even at the age of under 50 years. Unhealthy lifestyle is the trigger. So it is not surprising that many are unable to work at an age below the retirement limit because they are not healthy.

There is no word retirement for people who waste their youth by not saving and investing to prepare for their old age.
It's true that it's not rare, especially in developing countries, there are still many people who rely on their physique to work at a no longer young age just to make a living. or they choose to be homeless or beggars because they are no longer strong enough to rely on their physical work.

For an employee in the government or civil servants, maybe they won't be too bothered to think about their old age because someone guarantees a pension fund every month and that's what happened in my country. but for us ordinary people we have to really think about old age so we don't have trouble.
So while you are young, make the most of this time. Creating an independent business is one way to guarantee your old age. Besides that, don't forget to save your money to answer future problems.
When old age or retirement age is your time with your family, avoid physical work that takes up a lot of time and endangers your health.
Investing is one way to increase your wealth and savings without taking up a lot of time and endangering your health.

The pension laws in France (and most countries) were established decades ago and the ages have not necessarily risen with the much longer life expectancy that people have now. It costs the state a lot of money to give out such pay and while the people have paid into it, the balance has swayed too far out of whack so it needs to raise. You can see a slight slowdown in cognitive abilities but let's not forget that the current and last president of America around 80 years old, so people can certainly stay in somewhat reasonable shape long past the 60 year range.

I don't really understand you, what do you mean that the old ones are more productive than the young and upcoming workers would have the zeal to work and impact knowledge based on what they have learnt. There people are old and can not deliver as they used to since there muscles are weak and is unable to do things efficiently like they used to. The age 64 is too far for a work to retire because some persons at 64 ha e started losing the IQ and the way they reason. Just imagine a lecturer teaching students at the age of 65 years. This is absurd andthey might be too old to pass comprehendible knowledge to students based there old age.

You actually have a point, but let's be real some people already worked more than a decades in the sa job with the same position which might affect the company's performance if they just suddenly change the person's role. But in every year we have new fresh graduates who also have skills and talent that needed for the job so if they couldn't even find a position that suit for their course then it would be a waste. That's why I think retirement age for work is still a must. Maybe ask for help from the retiring people in hiring talented young people that could live up and be better to their past performances.

I think it's important here to recognize and capitalize on the good strengths of each. Their collaboration and mutual support can lead to a more productive and inclusive society and thus make a valuable contribution also because individual abilities and contributions vary, regardless of age group according to individual capacities.

Raising the retirement age of workers sometimes I likely pointing towards a short of labour or work force in that country but in countries of much population, the retirement age is always reviewed so as to allow or call for more employment of the new or younger generation into Service. However, the retirees are not just allowed to be idle that way most at times, they are invited to pass or teach the younger generation more of their duties.
I know of an who has retired in my locality but uptill now the government still seeks his expertise in difficult situations and also, they organise a seminar at their state office inviting him to come train their workers.

Retirement age should not really be a thing of worry because at some certain age in life ones work energy would start declining and it will amount to less productivity hence the  reason for the retirement age for workers so they could have time fur themselves and family too but these days as a result of the rate of unemployment, people tend to fame their real age just to stay in a particular job for years without any remorse for the younger generation and this is mostly common in government jobs.

Retirement is not an alternative to wages. 

A pension is a reward for older people for their past work for the benefit of the country in which they live.  A pensioner can receive a pension and not work.  He can also receive a pension and continue to work (if he has the appropriate opportunities and desires). 

Raising the retirement age is a very unfair act towards the elderly.  Each person must be sure that when old age comes he will have a reliable source of income. 

After all, human health, as a rule, deteriorates with age, and the need for comfort grows.

If you know that the retirement age is an old age, maybe you won't think that they can work again in private companies or go abroad to work again. Because all parties in the company do not only look at skills and experience in terms of hiring new employees into the company. But the company will also see how old he is and how he is in life so that his loyalty considerations can be very clear, because someone who is old will certainly tire more easily when he has to work under pressure where there is even overtime made by the company.

So this is not only about experience and skills, but also about one's energy and health which is also an important point for companies willing to accept new employees. But I don't understand how you think about this that still thinks they can work at their old age.

I want more specific and detailed reasons for this when you say retirees are more productive and more useful than young people. Because basically those who have retired were also young in their past, so it is impossible for the government or private parties to use them when they are seen as useless or useless. And if you think that young people are useless or useless, that means you have to wake up all the old people who have been bedridden to manage the country and also the economy.

For me, that doesn't really make sense because whatever you feel and see around you, young people are the next generation in every country because they are the ones who will replace their retired parents. And if you still see young people who can't do anything in their lives, it's the parents' job to direct them to the right path so that they can be useful in the future like those who have retired. But I really don't understand why you call young people useless in this matter.

I personally dislike working in full time job until the age of 60. Its something "insane" in my opinion. Its wage slavery at max level for sure. We, laborers, should focus on making good amount of income to guarantee our future through savings and investments and retire early. Much earlier. Probably around the age 45 at MAX. Otherwise your life quality will quickly die. But as liberal, I can't say everyone should retire early. Early retirements can disrupt many economies because it creates masses who live on retirement wage and do nothing. You should be able to work or invest and help other people start businesses.

I think the retirement age should be increased, in my country the retirement age for government jobs is around 65 years and private jobs are 60 years, of course retirement is something that can make everyone feel happy because they can enjoy the results of work without having to work, but as a retiree who has a lot of experience, before retiring, you must be able to provide knowledge to juniors.

Indeed, every country has a different age level in determining the time of retirement. And usually this is based on the fitness level of the majority of people in that country at that age. And this is also assessed based on their effectiveness in carrying out the work. if at the age of 60-65 their effectiveness at work has decreased dramatically then of course it is very appropriate to determine the retirement age limit at that age. But in every country the level of human fitness and health is not the same. like in japan it seems the fitness level of people is much longer. because I see parents there have an extraordinary level of health due to a healthy lifestyle and discipline. So in Japan the retirement age which was originally up to 60 has been increased to 65 years.

I agree that there should be some assessment of whether an old employee is good for retirement already or be allowed to keep on working. I guess each private company or even the government can do this in favor of those that have serviced them for the longest time.
That's the best benefit that they can give to them especially when they've contributed a lot to them. Being a worker for a long time and giving the best effort that they can be is unmeasurable. Although it's part of their job the loyalty itself is already a big deal to every individual and to companies that do appreciate it. So, depending on the capacity and the likes of the worker, if they think they can still work, allow them but if the company thinks that they're good for their retirement, give them a choice and if they chooses to retire then give all the benefits.

I completely agree because increasing the retirement age is not a good idea because everyone starts working at a young age, so this an old age is the best time to have their own time to rest and and have a peaceful time with the family. Also, when people reach their own old age, they should be allowed to rest because that is not the right time for them to continue to struggle in this life.

     -  There are people who have the mindset that when they retire they will have a large amount of money available from the company they have served for decades. When they receive a pension every month, they are happy. And the other is that if they don't want a pension, they will make a lumpsum so they can build their own house and start a business and buy a car.

There is nothing wrong with whatever reason they have for retirement other than they are old or elderly. It's just that sometimes you think that they won't be able to enjoy whatever they can invest in after they retire because the only thing that will benefit a lot and be happy is to inherit what they worked for, we who have retired will not be able to enjoy that anymore though for us. that's fine and that's for the ones we love. This is the only thing I saw in my other relatives.