Topic: Retirement Age for Workers - Does this Make Sense? - page 2. (Read 1570 times)

I agree with this, old age should be enjoyed well, because old age in my opinion should spend a lot of time with family, a person who has a good mindset I think they will work hard at a young age because they know old age is no longer a time to work, with them working hard at a young age it will produce in the future and when in old age they only have to enjoy it, But on the other hand, where there are families that are economically disadvantaged, it is possible that old people still work because they have to support their families by fulfilling their basic needs, because there are families that are not able to generate stable finances, or the absence of complete family members makes one old person still have to work even though they are old.
And in my opinion, I think it all depends on the person, but as I said before, we should work hard at a young age so that in old age we can enjoy it and not work anymore.

If you feel sorry for the person, then dismissal or layoff is the wrong decision. Because if you stop it, that person will lose their livelihood and income, so that it will be very difficult for that person to fulfill their needs. Indeed, if we are talking about a desire, a person really wants themselves to be able to retire as soon as possible, but because conditions make it impossible, they choose to continue working because there are demands and needs that they fulfill. And if only someone had enough savings, I'm sure that person would have decided long ago to retire. If you are kind enough, then don't fire the person, but give him a lighter job and if you are determined to fire him, then give him an allowance so that at least he has enough money to survive.



If you feel sorry for the person, then dismissal or layoff is the wrong decision. Because if you stop it, that person will lose their livelihood and income, so that it will be very difficult for that person to fulfill their needs. Indeed, if we are talking about a desire, a person really wants themselves to be able to retire as soon as possible, but because conditions make it impossible, they choose to continue working because there are demands and needs that they fulfill. And if only someone had enough savings, I'm sure that person would have decided long ago to retire. If you are kind enough, then don't fire the person, but give him a lighter job and if you are determined to fire him, then give him an allowance so that at least he has enough money to survive.

Indeed, old age is a time to enjoy peace and happiness with family. but when you experience serious economic and financial problems, let alone being able to live happily, being able to live in peace becomes something that is difficult to obtain.
And starting from this, it is important for us to be able to prepare everything later, lest we also suffer the same fate as people feel, where we continue to work in our old age.

That makes sense, many of them work to meet their needs, sometimes there are also those who don't like their work but they still work and this may be due to factors related to their economic needs which must be met every day. However, in my opinion, it feels unethical if they have reached old age but are still working, they should just rest and spend time with their own family, because I am a person who always feels sorry, so if I were a boss and had an old employee, I would tell him to to just rest at home and spend a lot of time with their own family.

because in my opinion old age is no longer for working, but for enjoying periods of peace, life in old age should be enjoyed with things that make them happy, because there are people who don't like their work but still force themselves to work because of economic factors . but it is also up to them themselves to determine everything, as long as they think it is good then I will support it.

As far as I know, each country has different laws that apply to the retirement age for working in the government, as I have read and seen in several countries.
For example:

In this case, if we talk about the economy, of course the impact on pensions aged 60-64 will definitely be on you, especially benefits being cut, so that pensioners have to look for other additions to cover their economic needs, In this case, I don't agree that those who work in government have a retirement age of 60-64. I agree that if the retirement age is 68-70, maybe this action is more mature to consider.

In my opinion, if the government increases the retirement age, of course there is a clear reason to retain them, as you said, with the experience and expertise they have, it is certainly natural to retain them, but in my opinion, if the government continues to retain them for a few more years, of course the generation that wants to develop will less interested in developing themselves to be able to replace those who have reached their retirement age.
I really agree with what you said, it is better to give young people the opportunity to have skills like theirs and give pensions to those who have reached retirement age to enjoy time with their families while they still have time.

The percentage of people who work because they want to is very small, but most people work because of needs that must be met, and it is true, as you said, that each person has a different portion.
However, in my opinion, the retirement age cannot be set by someone else, even if we are workers in someone else's company, it all comes down to ourselves, even though every job, whether in the government or private sector, has its own age limit rules.
But what I mean is that our desire to work can be regulated by ourselves. For example, for those who want to retire early from work and enjoy life, they must prepare carefully before deciding on this, prepare savings or other things that can meet their needs in When he doesn't work later, it's easy in my opinion because we can do whatever we want as long as we are able to prepare in advance.

I agreed that government should not forcefully retain it employees after attaining the mandatory retirement age or increase retirement age, it should be optional though majority of them would opt to leave however their wealth of experience would still be needed especially workers or expertise in health sector, technology, etc it might be very difficult for government to replace some of these key sector of the government replacing them with newly recruited employees isn't a bad idea though I prefer those employees who are about to retire retrain the newly recruited employees thereafter release them to retire because their productivity would wane as they aged in the job.

Based on different countries, the retirement ages based on different career has a particular years when they will ask workers to retire because the brain and mode of faculty may no longer be able to help continue the job. It is important for us as we are getting to the age of retirement, we need to make sure that we save for the time when we can no longer work again or make money for ourselves. Retirement age is a age when we might not longer have the strength to work or do things on our own the way we used to do before.

Each country has different rules including the retirement age for workers and it makes sense to me the policy taken by the French government. Every year thousands of young graduates are born after they have graduated in academics. Limiting the retirement age for government workers can open up new job vacancies for those who meet the requirements.
Regeneration must be carried out in order to create prosperity in an area, the government also plays an important role in taking policies so that the number of unemployed decreases. Creating new jobs is the best solution to maintain economic stability and equality for those who are qualified to work in certain sectors.

By the way, there is 60 years of retirement in our country, but some people do not want to retire even at 60 years. Once someone gets recruited in a government organization, after that his health and performance is never looked at. Work in government offices is not difficult, but even then government employees do not work. Therefore, if retirement is kept in terms of performance, I think his performance will be excellent even after sixty years.

Skill increases with age, but efficiency and power decline. In our country, the only job of a government official is to sign a file, and this performance can be continued for 100 years. Sometimes they find this work very difficult, the actual fact is that they are a burden on the institutions, who do not give any benefit to the institution despite taking huge salaries. Therefore, it is better to retire early those who are not beneficial to the organization.

In my country, the government official age retired around 60 years old not matter with their condition keep healthy or not have retired and indirectly loss his job. Government official work is not really hard and I little agree with age retire because many people still keep working although their age over 60 years old. I little agree with some one have get an older their skill will decrease as on government official working they have much experienced than beginner and easily work although on older age.

Some one in freelance seems not have retired age exactly their working not schedule yet as government official work, they spent which one worth time for working and get holiday difference with the other and likely if get controlling skill and manage good time they will not has retire age.

Retirement for civil servants has both good and bad effects on retirees. As a civil servant, you are supposed to retire at a certain age when the physical strength has derailed, so that the younger ones will continue to give effective results in the work environment. But, this has to come with a mouth-watering incentive that will help the retiree sustain his / her self and family, to avoid retiring to poverty. The bad side of this is mostly caused by the government. The failure of the government to pay that retiree when due has caused a lot of menace in society. Making some of them go into depression, which sometimes leads to death.

We do know that there would really be those poor people and there would be those ones who are in the middle or shall we say on average. This is why when we do get old, it would be always better that you should really be getting those life insurances at least of trying out to have some savings and dont tend to relying into your children when they do gets old because they would really be having their own family
in the future and dont expect that they would really be there just for you when you do get old. This is why it would be always that ideal that you should really that make yourself that prepared at
least so that you wont really be that get disappointed on the time that your children wont really be minding on both of you together with your wife.

This is why it would really be that best that you should really be that wise and prepared. Getting retired early? this is what we do wish for but if we do still have
tons of responsibilities specially into our family then its really that hard on doing such thing. There are ones how do really still love to do work
but due to age they are really that mandatory for retirement.

Yes that's right. As a person gets older, a person's skills and productivity will also decrease at work, especially if he works as a government official. The best way is to lower the retirement age limit from 58 years to 53 years from 60 years to 55 years, this also applies to all government employees so that there is continuous refreshment with the presence of the younger generation, so that they are more productive in working in government and companies.

It's different if someone works freelance rather than as a government employee, he can decide for himself when he wants to retire, if he has sufficient finances of course he will choose to retire and spend his old age with his family. Therefore, it is important for us from now on to prepare for financial freedom for old age, one of which is that when we are old we can just rest at home while playing with our grandchildren.

I agree with this, where those who do not have a good relationship with their family and make the workplace and work friends as family this is a good thing. because not everyone has a good relationship with their family sometimes there is also a child who lacks affection from his family which in slang is brokenhome, those who experience this tend to always be alone or always with friends who he trusts and sometimes there are some children who are brokenhome talking about not having a home to go home to, but this is not about the house. someone who is less fortunate in terms of his family maybe they will prefer things outside such as considering friends who are at work as their own family. This is possible because in my opinion not all elderly people want to spend their time at home, there are also those who want to spend their time outside the home such as in the world of work or others, I don't think it's bad because they themselves have rights, and usually if people are elderly it will be difficult to be prohibited, so let them choose things that can make them happy, I strongly support this, if those who do not have a good relationship with their family but spend their masters in their own homes there is a possibility that they can get upset and become angry too because they are prohibited from doing anything other than staying at home.

I also think that socializing is not wrong, in fact it's good. because they will have friends to chat with who are cool and comfortable. but if they just stay at home, they might feel bored. the purpose of working is indeed to earn money primarily, but there is nothing wrong with those who do not have a good relationship in their family and consider their workmates as family, someone who works certainly aims to earn money to meet their basic needs, if indeed they do not experience any problems in the family, maybe their main purpose in working is because they can earn money. i'm sure they know the choices they have to make because they themselves will feel the results.

There are many people in our country who, after their retirement, are still working because of the hardships of life here. Even if they don't want to retire from work, there is nothing they can do because there is a limit to the age at which they can work. There are others who, even though they don't want to work anymore, are still obliged despite their old age.

Because they are forced to do so because they don't want to be a burden on their children who are staying at home, that's why the parents who reach old age are lucky that their children take care of them.

The elderly man's job clinging is a great example of work surpassing money. He sees the workplace as a social hub where fellowship is the main course! This goes beyond job satisfaction to the workplace's social structure. Social creatures, we are! The workplace replaces family and community when they fail. In today's fractured world, where else do we spend much of our time? The workplace becomes a pseudo-family, covering money-less gaps

Boredom drives work ethic greatly, yet is often neglected! Breaking from routines feels like leaving home. Money is a convenient scapegoat, but it's not everything. Work fulfills our purpose-driven nature. Your story illustrates a larger trend: employment is more than a paycheck; it's a source of meaning and protection from laziness. We must acknowledge this and cease reducing the story to financial motives. We misunderstand work by looking at it through a narrow lens

that makes sense. Also, in my opinion, someone who enjoys their job and they don't have friends other than in the world of work, it is likely that they will continue to work not for money reasons,  but because they have work friends who they consider to be their own family, and this happens in my environment where there are one parent who is elderly and he still likes to work also he has been warned to stop working by his family but he refuses because the reason he is in his job is that he finds pleasure that cannot be replaced with money, this indicates that money is not everything but everything need money.

It could also be that they choose to keep working because they are bored if they don't do the things they are used to doing,  and it is possible that money is the number one thing, maybe they still like working for reasons like my story above.

Exactly! especially now that some older people, they are no longer able to reach the age of 60 because of the diseases and illnesses they have but having an advance technology and good vitamins and medicines,they will live longer and have a vigorous body with the help of supplements and taking care of their health. Here in our country, There are still some International companies who are still accepting retired aged employee to continue doing their job as long as they are capable and has no any other illnesses and I think that's right, just give them a chance to choose continuing and leaving their work because of their age..

Raising Retirement Age when the life expectancy has become longer is actually make sense. The reason why retirement age exist is because at certain age a person was deemed to be unreliable to do some task. But along with the development of medical and nutritional science, people will have better life quality, compared to the previous generation, the later generation must have better nutrition and life style. And the result is that previously people who are on their 60s considered to be less reliable, but with better food and life-style nowadays people are still able to work even after their 60s.

All that being said, I would still prefer that elder are given a choice whether they are willing to continue to do their job or just retire.