Rich and the poor who spend the most on luxury?

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Quote from: khiholangkang on October 06, 2024, 04:29:12 PM

There will always be many definitions of wealth and poverty in the view of every human being, but it seems that the OP refers to the use of money to judge who is rich and who is poor, but it is a little unclear that most rich people actually prefer simple clothes rather than looking much more attractive with luxurious items, but not a few rich people also use expensive items on their bodies, and I think we cannot see what the rich can and cannot do in the use of their money.

But I always believe that rich people use their money more for their needs rather than just for style like poor people in general who want to look rich.

That is indeed very true because in real life everyone can see that most rich people always prioritize the needs they need most in life with their money rather than buying more luxury goods that in the end are also unused and will be wasted in the end except for rich people who really like to collect luxury goods to display in the garage and also in their special room. Meanwhile, poor people who have a very hard time and rarely use luxury goods will always use their money for these things, even though they sometimes buy them in installments and are willing to hold back their stomach contents for a while in order to be able to have luxury goods in their lives.

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Quote from: Pi-network314159 on September 04, 2024, 05:53:57 AM

As I was scrolling through my Facebook I saw this photo and how the image discribes the poor to be a kind of people that wears expensive thing to impress people to look like the rich, and the other way round, the rich appears to be simple probably not to be noticed as a rich person. My question now is that,

Does wearing of expensive cloths, shoes and other expensive things a sign of being poor? Or does it mean the rich doesn't wear expensive things or doesn't leave a luxurious lifestyle?

There is also a difference of quality over quantity. Someone rich is not necessarily cheaping out on clothing, they might have very expensive clothes but they could also be built to last. They might buy a jacket with the intention to wear it for 20 years and utilize it fully. Your illustration is definitely right though, when people have little money or spend it all paycheck to paycheck, they can often have the wrong priorities and think that buying all the latest gadgets will somehow benefit them when it rarely does. Assessing the quality and usefulness of every item we buy is essential, because there is a lot of overpriced junk out there which can quickly deplete your bank balance.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on October 05, 2024, 11:58:41 AM

In my own opinion,it depends on how either if them sees luxury, describes luxury and defines luxury.S lot of times, it's not everybody that likes to flaunt their achievements and thats why and how you should try to describe luxury.
People are different,with different perspectives and it's not everybody that has it all regardless of how and what they refer luxury as.
Apparently,what the rich sees as luxury doesn't really correspond to what the poor and average people see as luxury,many times,a lot of things that we consider luxury are obviously not what determines or validates luxury.

A luxury is a luxury. It is an expensive item. Poor people has their own levels or definition of expensivecy and rich people has it too as well. Humans are known to be greedy, showy, etc... so actually, a lot of times a lot of people are flaunting every good things they have. I agree on your last sentence. I even defined what luxury means in my first sentence but at the end of the day, I think it doesn't really matter and just like what the saying says > 'we must appreciate even the simple things in life'.

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People are different,with different perspectives and it's not everybody that has it all regardless of how and what they refer luxury as.

What do you mean by not all has it? But if what you mean is perspective, then each of us has it. And like you said, it may not only be similar to some.

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Quote from: Nothingtodo on October 01, 2024, 12:11:34 AM

Quote from: Tamaj on September 30, 2024, 09:38:15 AM

How can the poor even spend on luxury? Maybe in there dream world.

What the poor earn they spend on their lifestyle. Instead of spending what the rich earn on their lifestyles, they spend it on How to Sign in Life Business Studies. Rich people who are smart prioritize career path over lifestyle. Which shows that the poor do not show any interest in building a career.

I think poor people don't think about spending their money on their lifestyle, they still don't have enough to meet their daily needs, what they think is that instead of buying for their lifestyle, they would be better off buying rice to survive. Maybe what you said above is more precise for the middle class, who have a mediocre income. I don't think it's good to follow other people's lifestyles, they are trapped in terms of their finances by buying luxury goods to enrich the rich person. It's not that they don't have interest, it's probably the capital factor that makes it difficult for them to grow to build their business.

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Quote from: DOH! on September 17, 2024, 02:03:19 PM

I'm still not sure what OP's question is referring to because the reality is almost obvious, when rich people have money, they will form a need for beauty, aesthetics, health, fashion... because they don't have to worry about living expenses to cover daily/monthly meals like poor people and vice versa. Lol

The truth is, the rich have enough money to pay for their lifestyles. They have no extra tension to earn money and the amount of money they need to spend is from their reserves. But those who are poor cannot earn the amount of money they need for their lifestyle, so it is very difficult for a poor person to earn the amount of money he needs to live a luxurious life compared to the rich.

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Quote from: wmaurik on October 06, 2024, 05:52:46 AM

Quote from: Lightmanalmani on October 05, 2024, 12:35:41 PM

Every one has a definition of what luxury actual mean to them, the "poor" from the picture you sent obviously see dressing as a way to showcase luxury to him, but the "rich" might have a different area he expresses his own display, might be houses, cars etc, you can't place a particular standard to luxury.
That poor guy night not even be coming from a decent home, he has dressing might have dressing as a priority, can still be a misplaced priority from his end which can contribute to why he is poor.

If we look at luxury from every assumption, of course there will always be a difference between the assumptions held by poor people and the assumptions held by rich people. Because people who are considered rich by many people around them will always be considered good for what they wear, while people who are still considered poor by the people around them will always be considered useless for what they wear even though they do wear expensive clothes on their bodies. I actually don't consider rich people based on the clothes they wear, because for me people who have more assets such as houses, cars and land are the real rich people even though they still wear simple clothes on their own.

There will always be many definitions of wealth and poverty in the view of every human being, but it seems that the OP refers to the use of money to judge who is rich and who is poor, but it is a little unclear that most rich people actually prefer simple clothes rather than looking much more attractive with luxurious items, but not a few rich people also use expensive items on their bodies, and I think we cannot see what the rich can and cannot do in the use of their money.

But I always believe that rich people use their money more for their needs rather than just for style like poor people in general who want to look rich.

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Quote from: Pi-network314159 on September 04, 2024, 05:53:57 AM

As I was scrolling through my Facebook I saw this photo and how the image discribes the poor to be a kind of people that wears expensive thing to impress people to look like the rich, and the other way round, the rich appears to be simple probably not to be noticed as a rich person. My question now is that,

Does wearing of expensive cloths, shoes and other expensive things a sign of being poor? Or does it mean the rich doesn't wear expensive things or doesn't leave a luxurious lifestyle?

Every one has a definition of what luxury actual mean to them, the "poor" from the picture you sent obviously see dressing as a way to showcase luxury to him, but the "rich" might have a different area he expresses his own display, might be houses, cars etc, you can't place a particular standard to luxury.
That poor guy night not even be coming from a decent home, he has dressing might have dressing as a priority, can still be a misplaced priority from his end which can contribute to why he is poor.

Luxury can be sent from different angles just like you have e explained. When you are buying things you don't need at the moment is a form of trying to impress the public and it can be seen as luxury especially when they are of high class. The rich have the resources to get what they want but that might be unnecessary at that particular time. The poor jas nothing to showcase that to get funds taking care of their present needs. Some that like to impress the public would want to get expensive things to make it looks like they have arrived, this normally ends up buying fake clothes and jewelries that worth nothing to the rich. Not here to side any party but I think everyone has there own priority when it comes to buying of necessary things.

One of the shittiest thing that you would really be doing is trying out to impress people around you despite of having that financial hurdle because its not something to be worth on doing so.
Come to think on what benefit that you could really be able to have if you have impressed someone? Getting some respect? Getting noticed or famous? You are just basically be potentially putting up
yourself on potential high debts or loans specially if you are having that standard or average financial status.

Dont make yourself be trying out to impress someone on what you do wear and how much it is or buying up some gadgets to show off into the public that you are rich. The real rich or wealthy
people wont really be acting out like that when it comes to dress or appearance, but somehow to those people who do know on how much those value it does have in terms of
gadgets and other things they do have then they could eventually tell up.

Most rich or wealthy people are really that humble and the ones who dont really mind about impressing to those people around. They do know that they could afford everything
but doesnt mean that they would be wasting their money on buying up on something which they dont really need or really that too much.

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Quote from: Lightmanalmani on October 05, 2024, 12:35:41 PM

Quote from: Pi-network314159 on September 04, 2024, 05:53:57 AM

As I was scrolling through my Facebook I saw this photo and how the image discribes the poor to be a kind of people that wears expensive thing to impress people to look like the rich, and the other way round, the rich appears to be simple probably not to be noticed as a rich person. My question now is that,

Does wearing of expensive cloths, shoes and other expensive things a sign of being poor? Or does it mean the rich doesn't wear expensive things or doesn't leave a luxurious lifestyle?

Every one has a definition of what luxury actual mean to them, the "poor" from the picture you sent obviously see dressing as a way to showcase luxury to him, but the "rich" might have a different area he expresses his own display, might be houses, cars etc, you can't place a particular standard to luxury.
That poor guy night not even be coming from a decent home, he has dressing might have dressing as a priority, can still be a misplaced priority from his end which can contribute to why he is poor.

Luxury can be sent from different angles just like you have e explained. When you are buying things you don't need at the moment is a form of trying to impress the public and it can be seen as luxury especially when they are of high class. The rich have the resources to get what they want but that might be unnecessary at that particular time. The poor jas nothing to showcase that to get funds taking care of their present needs. Some that like to impress the public would want to get expensive things to make it looks like they have arrived, this normally ends up buying fake clothes and jewelries that worth nothing to the rich. Not here to side any party but I think everyone has there own priority when it comes to buying of necessary things.

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Quote from: Lightmanalmani on October 05, 2024, 12:35:41 PM

Every one has a definition of what luxury actual mean to them, the "poor" from the picture you sent obviously see dressing as a way to showcase luxury to him, but the "rich" might have a different area he expresses his own display, might be houses, cars etc, you can't place a particular standard to luxury.
That poor guy night not even be coming from a decent home, he has dressing might have dressing as a priority, can still be a misplaced priority from his end which can contribute to why he is poor.

If we look at luxury from every assumption, of course there will always be a difference between the assumptions held by poor people and the assumptions held by rich people. Because people who are considered rich by many people around them will always be considered good for what they wear, while people who are still considered poor by the people around them will always be considered useless for what they wear even though they do wear expensive clothes on their bodies. I actually don't consider rich people based on the clothes they wear, because for me people who have more assets such as houses, cars and land are the real rich people even though they still wear simple clothes on their own.

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Quote from: fuguebtc on September 26, 2024, 08:36:22 AM

Also, do rich people really wear t-shirts that only cost $40-50? Some people say that Mark Zuckerberg, Elon or Gate wear cheap shirts but is that true? I agree that the clothes they wear look very simple but that doesn't mean they are cheap as we think.

Here, some rich people often wear cheap t-shirts. But it is not as cheap as the t-shirts of poor people. Cheesy

Mark Zuckerberg, Elon or Gate should be an exceptional. They are top people in the world, they have their own standards when it comes to dressing. Even they wear simple t-shirts, surely it won't be as cheap as we think.

Quote from: fuguebtc on September 26, 2024, 08:36:22 AM

In my country, poor people even have to ask other people for old clothes to wear. They don't even want to spend $2-5 on a new shirt, so how can they have thousands of dollars to buy clothes? I'm really surprised that people take an unsourced photo provided by the OP, and start insulting poor people and claiming that poor people are wasteful.

It also happens in my country. It is something usual for poor people. This is just a true story that showed the fact about their capability of their financial. Since they only can do it, how can they buy the clothes valued thousands of dollars. I think you feel the same as me, it is something impossible to happen to poor people. The OP photo, totally doesn't reflect the reality!

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Quote from: Pi-network314159 on September 04, 2024, 05:53:57 AM

As I was scrolling through my Facebook I saw this photo and how the image discribes the poor to be a kind of people that wears expensive thing to impress people to look like the rich, and the other way round, the rich appears to be simple probably not to be noticed as a rich person. My question now is that,

Does wearing of expensive cloths, shoes and other expensive things a sign of being poor? Or does it mean the rich doesn't wear expensive things or doesn't leave a luxurious lifestyle?

Every one has a definition of what luxury actual mean to them, the "poor" from the picture you sent obviously see dressing as a way to showcase luxury to him, but the "rich" might have a different area he expresses his own display, might be houses, cars etc, you can't place a particular standard to luxury.
That poor guy night not even be coming from a decent home, he has dressing might have dressing as a priority, can still be a misplaced priority from his end which can contribute to why he is poor.

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Quote from: Wiwo on September 04, 2024, 06:28:02 AM

Forget it when you talk about luxury most especially in the context of the image posted, you have to first of all mentioned what the career of both the rich dude and the so called poor dude is, and why they both dress the way they did, the poor guy dress like a musician who knows he may be an entertainer, so and the rich guy could be a doctor, so both have different way and style of life.

So let not judge by how they dress without checking why the take such style of dressing, musician spends chunks of money on dressing, even the upcoming musician must dress expensive regardless of how much money he has.

In my own opinion,it depends on how either if them sees luxury, describes luxury and defines luxury.S lot of times, it's not everybody that likes to flaunt their achievements and thats why and how you should try to describe luxury.
People are different,with different perspectives and it's not everybody that has it all regardless of how and what they refer luxury as.
Apparently,what the rich sees as luxury doesn't really correspond to what the poor and average people see as luxury,many times,a lot of things that we consider luxury are obviously not what determines or validates luxury.

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Quote from: Pi-network314159 on September 04, 2024, 05:53:57 AM

As I was scrolling through my Facebook I saw this photo and how the image discribes the poor to be a kind of people that wears expensive thing to impress people to look like the rich, and the other way round, the rich appears to be simple probably not to be noticed as a rich person. My question now is that,

Does wearing of expensive cloths, shoes and other expensive things a sign of being poor? Or does it mean the rich doesn't wear expensive things or doesn't leave a luxurious lifestyle?

So this is the explanation if you look at the picture.
Why do rich people look simpler and more natural? Because they feel confident with the wealth they have so that other people still respect them without them having to show off or buy luxury goods.

While poor people, it is clear that most likely no one respects them and even tend to be indifferent as if they do not consider themselves to exist, that is why poor people tend to try hard to buy and wear luxury goods in any way so that they get attention and can be respected by others.

I see this in everyday life in my neighborhood, there are so many poor people who want to look rich and rich people actually look poor, meaning they want to look simple.

But whatever it is, it all depends on each person's perspective in seeing it, there are also people who have a mediocre income but want to look rich because of work demands. But what is certain is that if you want to achieve financial freedom in old age, be smart in managing your finances, don't buy something that is not really needed.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 04, 2024, 11:02:14 AM

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Which type of person are you among the people you are referring to?

Well, I consider myself an average because I am not poor or rich yet

If you are an average person, do you spend more money than your income to own expensive, luxurious things like what you are saying to other average people?
What I see around me is rich people spending a lot of money on luxury things because as I said, what poor people consider luxury is just normal things in the eyes of rich people. I rarely see middle class or poor people regularly spending money on things beyond their means, if any then it is only teenage boys who are spoiled by their parents. As for people who have families or are adults, they never do such stupid things.

Of course, rich people focus on making money but that doesn't mean they don't enjoy life or don't spend. If you ask any rich person about their purpose of getting rich, they will tell you that they want to have a prosperous, luxurious life...or simply put, to enjoy life. So I disagree with any idea that rich people are only interested in getting rich and not spending, especially on luxuries.

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Poor people actually do not accept the reality that they are poor people, so they try very hard to get attention and validation from other people, while rich people no longer need validation that makes them look rich. There is even a survey that shows that poor people buy more new cell phones than rich people and this fact is undeniable.

That is clearly true and I have also found something like that in the survey in my living environment where poor people always prefer to replace their smartphones so that people around them think they are rich, even though they have cut their own food rations just to be able to buy luxury goods even though they are not useful enough for themselves. While people who are considered rich will always be more satisfied with what they already have and will continue to use it as long as its usefulness is still very appropriate and can still help them in their work.

This is very common in various regions, although not all, but most of them are like that. Many people buy something because it is not a need but because of style to look rich in the eyes of others, even though if we don't feel the need, we shouldn't buy it. This is actually not just a matter of looking rich but they fail to manage their finances, so it's no wonder that poor people will remain poor if they have this mindset.

Of course there are also rich people who look rich by buying luxury goods but they already have financial freedom and can manage their finances well. In addition, there are also rich people who are tired of the ability to get everything they want in life so easily, at one point they want to find simple things that can make them happy.

Not only you, I also often meet people whose finances are tight but drive luxuriously, dress luxuriously, buy smartphones with the highest type to look rich and travel for fun but when there is an urgent need that must have reserve funds, they borrow money from others. This happens very often, so what OP said often happens, poor people often look luxurious than rich people who want to look simple.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on October 04, 2024, 10:31:41 AM

Quote from: rachael9385 on October 04, 2024, 08:45:13 AM

The poor can not spend on luxury things because they don't have the money to buy them, but the people who spend more on luxury things are the average salary earners (this might sound funny but to me it's true). The rich only spend occasionally because most of them don't have free time at all, but the average salary earners always want to impress people, just to make sure that they don't look broke to other people around them.

How do you know rich people spend less and don't spend on luxuries? How do you know if an average salary earners person spends a lot of money on luxury items? Which type of person are you among the people you are referring to?

Basically, what is considered a luxury for the poor is considered normal for the rich, so most of us will never see rich people using things that they consider normal. Rich people spend more than we think, they don't save like we do. If they really don't have time to spend money and don't care about their appearance or don't care about their quality of life. So why do they own yachts, private helicopters, have their own designers, have their own chefs...is this considered a simple life?

We can calculate whether their expenses are comparable to what they get, because what I see is that some rich people buy luxury goods and they will also make it a business. For example, when they buy a luxury car, but then someone is interested in the luxury car at a higher price they will sell it, without realizing that some of them are running this strategy. They can even get 2 benefits at once, the first will be considered cool, and the second will get financial benefits. While poor people, even though they try to look luxurious, usually what they spend is not comparable to what they get. And also the goods that are considered "luxury" that they have will not mean anything in the future, unlike the "luxury" goods owned by rich people.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on October 04, 2024, 10:31:41 AM

Quote from: rachael9385 on October 04, 2024, 08:45:13 AM

The poor can not spend on luxury things because they don't have the money to buy them, but the people who spend more on luxury things are the average salary earners (this might sound funny but to me it's true). The rich only spend occasionally because most of them don't have free time at all, but the average salary earners always want to impress people, just to make sure that they don't look broke to other people around them.

How do you know rich people spend less and don't spend on luxuries?

However I am just saying based on my observation, but I didn't say that rich people doesn't spend on luxury things, I only said that rich people spend occasionally.

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The rich only spend occasionally because most of them don't have free time at all

Not that they do no spend at all, but they spent more on what will give them more money.

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How do you know if an average salary earners person spends a lot of money on luxury items?

The truth is that if you see someone that's rich you would know.
Well, based on the folks I see around me, a lot of them are average salary earners and most of them like luxury things, so they spend money on them. The question I suggest you would have asked me is, how much do I consider an average amount.

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Which type of person are you among the people you are referring to?

Well, I consider myself an average because I am not poor or rich yet

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 04, 2024, 08:45:13 AM

The poor can not spend on luxury things because they don't have the money to buy them, but the people who spend more on luxury things are the average salary earners (this might sound funny but to me it's true). The rich only spend occasionally because most of them don't have free time at all, but the average salary earners always want to impress people, just to make sure that they don't look broke to other people around them.

How do you know rich people spend less and don't spend on luxuries? How do you know if an average salary earners person spends a lot of money on luxury items? Which type of person are you among the people you are referring to?

Basically, what is considered a luxury for the poor is considered normal for the rich, so most of us will never see rich people using things that they consider normal. Rich people spend more than we think, they don't save like we do. If they really don't have time to spend money and don't care about their appearance or don't care about their quality of life. So why do they own yachts, private helicopters, have their own designers, have their own chefs...is this considered a simple life?

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Quote from: Tamaj on September 30, 2024, 09:38:15 AM

How can the poor even spend on luxury? Maybe in there dream world. There is no way he can spend on luxury, he or she can only get whatever by going for the list cos they can't avoid high grade of luxury or borrow from friends, relatives, neighbours and church members or even steal to fill among. When one is poor you are poor and gets poorer if you don't do the right thing not to talk about making yourself available for a race with the rich.
The poor goes for luxury only on rare cases for instance, a must occasion they needed to attend but the rich can't hide it, in their skin colours you will know that he or she is spending in it, their day to day lives are on expensive luxuries but the poor appears on luxuries once in a year.

The poor can not spend on luxury things because they don't have the money to buy them, but the people who spend more on luxury things are the average salary earners (this might sound funny but to me it's true). The rich only spend occasionally because most of them don't have free time at all, but the average salary earners always want to impress people, just to make sure that they don't look broke to other people around them.
However, I have seen many folks that don't have money but they always buy designers wears anytime they have money. Although I have always believed that everyone does what they feels is best for them, and we don't even need to interfere on their matters because they are human and they already know what they want. Moreover, those average salary easners that mostly buy luxury things only think of the present things and not the future.

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Quote from: Pi-network314159 on September 04, 2024, 05:53:57 AM

As I was scrolling through my Facebook I saw this photo and how the image discribes the poor to be a kind of people that wears expensive thing to impress people to look like the rich, and the other way round, the rich appears to be simple probably not to be noticed as a rich person. My question now is that,

Does wearing of expensive cloths, shoes and other expensive things a sign of being poor? Or does it mean the rich doesn't wear expensive things or doesn't leave a luxurious lifestyle?

In today's era, there is such a fashion that whether a rich or a poor fashion style, there is no way to understand their financial status from the outside. Most of the tiktok actors are constantly changing new styles of fashion and you can never tell if they are rich or poor by looking at their fashion. But fashion or stylish is the preference of a man whether he is rich or poor. I don't think rich or poor will change their lifestyle according to what they can afford. I never notice the difference between rich and poor here. But fashion is different for those who are vagabonds and don't care about family, but those who are responsible and care enough about career, they don't care about fashion, they give more importance to their career.

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