Humans over robots, because the economy will crash shortly, and there will be no robots.
How can you even relate it? If there are materials that are require to build robot then even the economic's crash they can still make a robot if they want to.
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How can you even relate it? If there are materials that are require to build robot then even the economic's crash they can still make a robot if they want to.
Humans over robots, because the economy will crash shortly, and there will be no robots.
Robots will never replace humans, because there are certain problems with AI even on the theoretical level. Of course, here I mean not the AI we already have in some robots, but the AI which will work like human's. This problem I'm talking about can be understood via the "Chinese room experiment". For those who aren't familiar with it, I'll paste a brief description here:
"suppose that artificial intelligence takes Chinese characters as input and, by following the instructions of a computer program, produces other Chinese characters, which it presents as output. Suppose this computer performs its task so convincingly that it comfortably passes the Turing test: it convinces a human Chinese speaker that the program is itself a live Chinese speaker. To all of the questions that the person asks, it makes appropriate responses, such that any Chinese speaker would be convinced that they are talking to another Chinese-speaking human being.But does the machine literally "understand" Chinese? Or is it merely simulating the ability to understand Chinese?
Now the same with human being, who is in a closed room and has a book with an English version of the computer program, along with sufficient paper, pencils, erasers, and filing cabinets. Human could receive Chinese characters through a slot in the door, process them according to the program's instructions, and produce Chinese characters as output. If the computer had passed the Turing test this way, it follows, that he would do so as well, simply by running the program manually.
However, this person would not be able to understand the conversation. Therefore, it follows that the computer would not be able to understand the conversation either.
Without "understanding" (or "intentionality"), we cannot describe what the machine is doing as "thinking" and since it does not think, it does not have a "mind" in anything like the normal sense of the word."
The machine don't need a mind to harm people it only needs a creator that code him to be harmful. You know what I'm saying? Those people that want to see the world burn. "suppose that artificial intelligence takes Chinese characters as input and, by following the instructions of a computer program, produces other Chinese characters, which it presents as output. Suppose this computer performs its task so convincingly that it comfortably passes the Turing test: it convinces a human Chinese speaker that the program is itself a live Chinese speaker. To all of the questions that the person asks, it makes appropriate responses, such that any Chinese speaker would be convinced that they are talking to another Chinese-speaking human being.But does the machine literally "understand" Chinese? Or is it merely simulating the ability to understand Chinese?
Now the same with human being, who is in a closed room and has a book with an English version of the computer program, along with sufficient paper, pencils, erasers, and filing cabinets. Human could receive Chinese characters through a slot in the door, process them according to the program's instructions, and produce Chinese characters as output. If the computer had passed the Turing test this way, it follows, that he would do so as well, simply by running the program manually.
However, this person would not be able to understand the conversation. Therefore, it follows that the computer would not be able to understand the conversation either.
Without "understanding" (or "intentionality"), we cannot describe what the machine is doing as "thinking" and since it does not think, it does not have a "mind" in anything like the normal sense of the word."
Robots will never replace humans, because there are certain problems with AI even on the theoretical level. Of course, here I mean not the AI we already have in some robots, but the AI which will work like human's. This problem I'm talking about can be understood via the "Chinese room experiment". For those who aren't familiar with it, I'll paste a brief description here:
"suppose that artificial intelligence takes Chinese characters as input and, by following the instructions of a computer program, produces other Chinese characters, which it presents as output. Suppose this computer performs its task so convincingly that it comfortably passes the Turing test: it convinces a human Chinese speaker that the program is itself a live Chinese speaker. To all of the questions that the person asks, it makes appropriate responses, such that any Chinese speaker would be convinced that they are talking to another Chinese-speaking human being.But does the machine literally "understand" Chinese? Or is it merely simulating the ability to understand Chinese?
Now the same with human being, who is in a closed room and has a book with an English version of the computer program, along with sufficient paper, pencils, erasers, and filing cabinets. Human could receive Chinese characters through a slot in the door, process them according to the program's instructions, and produce Chinese characters as output. If the computer had passed the Turing test this way, it follows, that he would do so as well, simply by running the program manually.
However, this person would not be able to understand the conversation. Therefore, it follows that the computer would not be able to understand the conversation either.
Without "understanding" (or "intentionality"), we cannot describe what the machine is doing as "thinking" and since it does not think, it does not have a "mind" in anything like the normal sense of the word."
"suppose that artificial intelligence takes Chinese characters as input and, by following the instructions of a computer program, produces other Chinese characters, which it presents as output. Suppose this computer performs its task so convincingly that it comfortably passes the Turing test: it convinces a human Chinese speaker that the program is itself a live Chinese speaker. To all of the questions that the person asks, it makes appropriate responses, such that any Chinese speaker would be convinced that they are talking to another Chinese-speaking human being.But does the machine literally "understand" Chinese? Or is it merely simulating the ability to understand Chinese?
Now the same with human being, who is in a closed room and has a book with an English version of the computer program, along with sufficient paper, pencils, erasers, and filing cabinets. Human could receive Chinese characters through a slot in the door, process them according to the program's instructions, and produce Chinese characters as output. If the computer had passed the Turing test this way, it follows, that he would do so as well, simply by running the program manually.
However, this person would not be able to understand the conversation. Therefore, it follows that the computer would not be able to understand the conversation either.
Without "understanding" (or "intentionality"), we cannot describe what the machine is doing as "thinking" and since it does not think, it does not have a "mind" in anything like the normal sense of the word."
i thin human because robots are made by human so how can creature be powerful than the create. so i believe that human will win in future. human will control and use the robot for their benefit. they have to work on the order of the human. i think that you have watched the terminator movie recently.
No reason why something we create can't become stronger, smarter or whatever than us. Isn't that what having kids is about? Evolution can make us better through time. Problem is robots would do all that much faster. And in a more direct way. Not as random. No need to wait for a kid to grow. Just copy the program to another computer. Or another partition. May take a few seconds. Make the necessary changes to the new program. Repeat on another computer. If we create artificial intelligence and it turns against us we don't have a chance.
You can see this already in prototypes that try to copy human walking. The software trys tthousands of different simulations of how to walk and then finally finds one that work. The computer can run this in secondo and then once it finds what it needs to know it can then physically create its prototype. A computer this powerful and aware couldsurpass what took humans thousands of years to perfect in literally seconds.
Thats only because we haven't cracked artificial intelligence yet. Once we do computers/robots Will be the superior race. If we do create artificial intelligence then this is evolution working on its own. We have evolved enough to make machines and they are a step ahead of us in evolution. Unfortunately your belief in a god is limiting you.
Imagine a human could transfer their mind from organic to computer, You would remember everything exactly how it happened or however you learned it, When artificial intelligence arrives it will have this ability except in human terms its iq will be unimaginable to us and within seconds of downloading everything human kind has ever learned via the internet it will contain all of human knowledge put together.Its hard to deny that this would be a superior being.
i thin human because robots are made by human so how can creature be powerful than the create. so i believe that human will win in future. human will control and use the robot for their benefit. they have to work on the order of the human. i think that you have watched the terminator movie recently.
No reason why something we create can't become stronger, smarter or whatever than us. Isn't that what having kids is about? Evolution can make us better through time. Problem is robots would do all that much faster. And in a more direct way. Not as random. No need to wait for a kid to grow. Just copy the program to another computer. Or another partition. May take a few seconds. Make the necessary changes to the new program. Repeat on another computer. If we create artificial intelligence and it turns against us we don't have a chance.
You can see this already in prototypes that try to copy human walking. The software trys tthousands of different simulations of how to walk and then finally finds one that work. The computer can run this in secondo and then once it finds what it needs to know it can then physically create its prototype. A computer this powerful and aware couldsurpass what took humans thousands of years to perfect in literally seconds.
i thin human because robots are made by human so how can creature be powerful than the create. so i believe that human will win in future. human will control and use the robot for their benefit. they have to work on the order of the human. i think that you have watched the terminator movie recently.
No reason why something we create can't become stronger, smarter or whatever than us. Isn't that what having kids is about? Evolution can make us better through time. Problem is robots would do all that much faster. And in a more direct way. Not as random. No need to wait for a kid to grow. Just copy the program to another computer. Or another partition. May take a few seconds. Make the necessary changes to the new program. Repeat on another computer. If we create artificial intelligence and it turns against us we don't have a chance.
You can see this already in prototypes that try to copy human walking. The software trys tthousands of different simulations of how to walk and then finally finds one that work. The computer can run this in secondo and then once it finds what it needs to know it can then physically create its prototype. A computer this powerful and aware couldsurpass what took humans thousands of years to perfect in literally seconds.
^ exactly. Maybe the limitation is having to create the physical parts. But that is not very slow either. Much faster than growing a new body. And copying information is enough to teach it everything it needs. But our dependence on the internet and the automation of weapons these days makes it easier for the robots.
Robot can't win. Even if they dominate the world, they would still be the creation of human. Human have evolved using resources in their favor. There were accidents, there would be but Humans will still be superior. Human would create Robots to serve them, The self learning robots with big guns are imaginary.
For now. They learn but in specific areas. Because we don't know how to create general intelligence yet. But no reason to believe it is impossible. Someone may discover how to do it eventually. And it won't be because no one is trying. On the contrary.
i thin human because robots are made by human so how can creature be powerful than the create. so i believe that human will win in future. human will control and use the robot for their benefit. they have to work on the order of the human. i think that you have watched the terminator movie recently.
No reason why something we create can't become stronger, smarter or whatever than us. Isn't that what having kids is about? Evolution can make us better through time. Problem is robots would do all that much faster. And in a more direct way. Not as random. No need to wait for a kid to grow. Just copy the program to another computer. Or another partition. May take a few seconds. Make the necessary changes to the new program. Repeat on another computer. If we create artificial intelligence and it turns against us we don't have a chance.
You can see this already in prototypes that try to copy human walking. The software trys tthousands of different simulations of how to walk and then finally finds one that work. The computer can run this in secondo and then once it finds what it needs to know it can then physically create its prototype. A computer this powerful and aware couldsurpass what took humans thousands of years to perfect in literally seconds.
i thin human because robots are made by human so how can creature be powerful than the create. so i believe that human will win in future. human will control and use the robot for their benefit. they have to work on the order of the human. i think that you have watched the terminator movie recently.
No reason why something we create can't become stronger, smarter or whatever than us. Isn't that what having kids is about? Evolution can make us better through time. Problem is robots would do all that much faster. And in a more direct way. Not as random. No need to wait for a kid to grow. Just copy the program to another computer. Or another partition. May take a few seconds. Make the necessary changes to the new program. Repeat on another computer. If we create artificial intelligence and it turns against us we don't have a chance.
i thin human because robots are made by human so how can creature be powerful than the create. so i believe that human will win in future. human will control and use the robot for their benefit. they have to work on the order of the human. i think that you have watched the terminator movie recently.
Once someone finally figures out how to make robots fully aware their evolution will happen 1000s of times faster than human evolution since they will be more intelligent and construct themselves however they can. Its a no brainer.
If robot is being given the maximum artificial intelligence than human will become no match with robot, as a comparison human need 20 years to learn how to create a gun, robot just need 20 minutes they can just transfer and copy paste their mind to other robots, human need 9 months to give birth robot only need couple days to create another robot
a robot equipped with a weapon would be very dangerous if the robot is experiencing technical difficulties. I very much agree if the robot is equipped with a variety of weapons. Well if a fight between humans and robot will happen in the future it will be a big problem for all of us. If that will happen, I think humans will still win in the Future. Humans created robots and humans now how to stop the robots.
Yeah ,but one thing if they created a fully knowleadgeable robot that is much wiser and genius than the humans there will be a problem there something like a computer that knows all .so maybe creating a robot in the future who is always have the advantage of the humans is much better.Well i'm sure of one thing. Man will win no matter what. Man in his nature withstands whichever is presented before him.
Well if a fight between humans and robot will happen in the future it will be a big problem for all of us. If that will happen, I think humans will still win in the Future. Humans created robots and humans now how to stop the robots.
Yeah ,but one thing if they created a fully knowleadgeable robot that is much wiser and genius than the humans there will be a problem there something like a computer that knows all .so maybe creating a robot in the future who is always have the advantage of the humans is much better. Humans are simply highly complex robots that happen to have a soul.
Talk about Will Smith's iRobot. Ha ha ha. But yea, I guess humans at the end of the day is still what will always win.
Humans are simply highly complex robots that happen to have a soul.
Well if a fight between humans and robot will happen in the future it will be a big problem for all of us. If that will happen, I think humans will still win in the Future. Humans created robots and humans now how to stop the robots.
Robots are just created by a human although their inteligence is improved and higher than a human they will still never defeat a human inteligence because at the end humans can still find a solution just to stop the domination of those robots and the robots will notbe able to upgrade themselves without the help of human being unless they are like ultron .
Yeah they are just human creation. They can only do whats in their program while human can do multiple. No one will do a robot that is more intelligence than human.It's all depends on the system of the robot, if it is being encoded not to harm people then that's fine but if there comes the time that some will change the way robot behave then that sure be a problem.
Terminator always wins in the long run have you not seen the movies?
You mean the "good" terminator wins, right?
He wins because his master-switch is set to learn and adapt, he can take on a human
approach, use techniques that where not preprogram, rather figured out on the fly.
When switch was reset, machine started to behave like a person after a while.
He developed emotions, deeper understanding of human psyche. Even more than
understanding, One may say that a ghost was born inside the machine.
So if ever a true AI will be created, a new intelligent species will be born.
Will it start to compete with its maker? I don't think so. If truly intelligent, it will know
that the only way of surviving is TOGETHER.
well yeah you are right human can make mistake but bots cant, but the thing is that human mind can do anything but robot cant do those kind of things, so obviously humans are going to win not a robot .. :-/
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