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Topic: @RogerVer lets make a deal. At least 60k, my BTU for your BTC. - page 4. (Read 64844 times)

legendary
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I agree, from someone from his position he doesn't act like a professional. If i look at his twitter and r/btc...man this guy is always full of shit.

What "professional"? He doesn't have any education nor any professional experience, he has never been employed by any serious and respectable employer. He is a convicted criminal. So what kind of a professional do you expect him to be? He can't even be considered a professional criminal. He is just a dumb animal of homo sapiens spieces, one of billions, that's all he is, no "professional". Getting himself to a federal prison by selling explosives on eBay can really achieve only a total moron.

Don't forget this one;

Mt. Gox is totes fine, guys.
hero member
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I don't buy nor sell anything here and never will.
I agree, from someone from his position he doesn't act like a professional. If i look at his twitter and r/btc...man this guy is always full of shit.

What "professional"? He doesn't have any education nor any professional experience, he has never been employed by any serious and respectable employer. He is a convicted criminal. So what kind of a professional do you expect him to be? He can't even be considered a professional criminal. He is just a dumb animal of homo sapiens spieces, one of billions, that's all he is, no "professional". Getting himself to a federal prison by selling explosives on eBay can really achieve only a total moron.
copper member
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fookball, man up, put your money where your mouth is, lets trade your Bitcoin (if you have some) for my bcash 1:1 fair deal
Why would he do that? He can buy BCH on exchanges for ~0.092 BTC. It would make zero sense to trade 1:1

That's the whole damn point of this thread.
It makes 0 sense to trade BTC and [no symbol for you altcoin] at 1:1.
It never made sense , it's not making sense and it will never make sense as the value will never be even close.
Well I believe this thread was opened prior to there being any kind of market for BTU/BCU, and Roger wanted to express his support for Bitcoin Unlimited.
legendary
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I don't like Roger because of his censorship, manipulation and lies.

I agree, from someone from his position he doesn't act like a professional. If i look at his twitter and r/btc...man this guy is always full of shit.



There was a time when people (and me) liked Roger but not anymore, so sad how some people can change.
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
fookball, man up, put your money where your mouth is, lets trade your Bitcoin (if you have some) for my bcash 1:1 fair deal
Why would he do that? He can buy BCH on exchanges for ~0.092 BTC. It would make zero sense to trade 1:1

That's the whole damn point of this thread.
It makes 0 sense to trade BTC and [no symbol for you altcoin] at 1:1.
It never made sense , it's not making sense and it will never make sense as the value will never be even close.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
fookball, man up, put your money where your mouth is, lets trade your Bitcoin (if you have some) for my bcash 1:1 fair deal
Why would he do that? He can buy BCH on exchanges for ~0.092 BTC. It would make zero sense to trade 1:1
I wouldn't know if he buy it on exchange or not (i.e. put his money where his mouth is) but if he buy from me he prove himself solid dude and not just a yap. Besides he can punish me and deprive me of bcash which is far more valuable that Bitcoin in the future, according his thoughts.   Roll Eyes
copper member
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fookball, man up, put your money where your mouth is, lets trade your Bitcoin (if you have some) for my bcash 1:1 fair deal
Why would he do that? He can buy BCH on exchanges for ~0.092 BTC. It would make zero sense to trade 1:1
legendary
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when Bitcoin unlimited / Emergent consensus was set to activate, it was under the assumption that it would be at least 60-70% hashpower.  obviously the situation is very different currently as of 8/6/2017 with Bitcoin Cash.  You can't expect Roger to make a 1:1 trade now.  if you do, you're an idiot.

This is how an excuse looks like. If you think your product is awesome and the price and hashrate will follow because your idea is so superior, you instantly dump your coins for what you think is the real bitcoin and enjoy you rise, but you are clearly doubting that your project is the winning one.

Sorry to tell you but no hardfork of Bitcoin made by corporations and the usual big blockers will get anywhere, it will remain another fake Bitcoin.
legendary
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Loaded still never replied to me at all despite my contacting him numerous times.  That shows his intentions were dishonest from day one.

he opened the thread, he asked for the deal. he should reply, imho.
vip
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Loaded still never replied to me at all despite my contacting him numerous times.  That shows his intentions were dishonest from day one.
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
fookball, man up, put your money where your mouth is, lets trade your Bitcoin (if you have some) for my bcash 1:1 fair deal

you're an idiot.
legendary
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when Bitcoin unlimited / Emergent consensus was set to activate, it was under the assumption that it would be at least 60-70% hashpower.  obviously the situation is very different currently as of 8/6/2017 with Bitcoin Cash.  You can't expect Roger to make a 1:1 trade now.  if you do, you're an idiot.

That's the reason why Roger and his minions will never leave bitcoin alone.

How can he expect the others to buy bcash, while he doesn't buy bcash or dump his bitcoins for bcash?

He holds his bitcoins, he promotes bcash, and he waits for other people to buy bcash.

...Ponzi
sr. member
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fookball, man up, put your money where your mouth is, lets trade your Bitcoin (if you have some) for my bcash 1:1 fair deal
sr. member
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when Bitcoin unlimited / Emergent consensus was set to activate, it was under the assumption that it would be at least 60-70% hashpower.  obviously the situation is very different currently as of 8/6/2017 with Bitcoin Cash.  You can't expect Roger to make a 1:1 trade now.  if you do, you're an idiot.
what about your bs that segwit is dead?
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
when Bitcoin unlimited / Emergent consensus was set to activate, it was under the assumption that it would be at least 60-70% hashpower.  obviously the situation is very different currently as of 8/6/2017 with Bitcoin Cash.  You can't expect Roger to make a 1:1 trade now.  if you do, you're an idiot.
legendary
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SpacePirate.io
The only thing this thread made me realize is that if Roger got a VIP badge, now I want one too!  Cry lol
hero member
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HODLing is an art, not just a word...
Looks like they had a deal already. 19Mz2o9RDABT74SA9njZqMtJXKEzj2qUoH sent 40k BTC to 1PzGnXGvoGGtCcGpqzkJHebZVgM48VL2x4 in a single transaction, here's the tx id - 2248452e2122ff2d446565462cac276bbc8420c5874695a9b5c8e3bca8afa2b2
So there's still something shady behind BCH atm and a game is yet to begin. Let's wait for Aug 8 as that will prove to be the deciding day.
Looks like they were not interested in giving higher fee that's why even 10 sats/byte got them all their confirmations with a 0.00016201 BTC fee. (/sarcasm)

why do you think the 1PzGn... belongs to Roger Ver?
i can't find anything on that address linking it to anyone.

also a deal like that won't be as simple as sending a transaction! it is not 100 bucks it is about 130 million dollar, if you send it like that, the other person will take it and run.
what you do is using a multisig with some trusted third party with 3 keys. and these addresses are all starting with 1 (single key)
legendary
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Looks like they had a deal already. 19Mz2o9RDABT74SA9njZqMtJXKEzj2qUoH sent 40k BTC to 1PzGnXGvoGGtCcGpqzkJHebZVgM48VL2x4 in a single transaction, here's the tx id - 2248452e2122ff2d446565462cac276bbc8420c5874695a9b5c8e3bca8afa2b2
So there's still something shady behind BCH atm and a game is yet to begin. Let's wait for Aug 8 as that will prove to be the deciding day.
Looks like they were not interested in giving higher fee that's why even 10 sats/byte got them all their confirmations with a 0.00016201 BTC fee. (/sarcasm)
legendary
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Top Crypto Casino
Im still waiting for a clear statement of Roger Ver claiming that he will sell all of his BTC for BCC. If he really thinks BCC is better than BTC, he surely will dump them right?

Well I look forward to seeing whether he will or not.

At the end of the day if Roger Ver is going to instigate the biggest tragedy on bitcoin since its conception simply because he has several hundred million dollars worth of coins then he should put his money where his mouth is.

First and foremost this is not the time for him or anyone else to play the role of bitcoin king. No need to change anything, everything can stay as is the status quo is fine. If he wants to go for it then that is his decision but he MUST dump all his BTC in favour of his newly found BTU otherwise it means he has no confidence in his own agenda.

Whether he does or not, Ver has lost respect in the majority of the crypto community.
legendary
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Merit: 1020
Fill Your Barrel with Bitcoins!
WTF?

I initially thought Satoshis Bitcoin was about economic, tech and game theory... -> perfect eCash for ALL.

Now I see here its rather about people and soap opera?

Looks like that many 'users' are mostly active in posting nonsense and horsing around, rather not in directing all our power and brains in a better solution, community and most important Bitcoin's REPUTATION to the inner and outer side this entire opera is seen in the end ...?

Back to work! Make Bitcoin great again - not soapy!


 Wink


My work here is to do pure analysis of WHY we have this opera:

Its all about a single line of the protocol

Where many would agree about, it is not a consensus pillar

Rather a user specific setting to allow free optimization and adjustments to market reactions

Such a minor param, that even Satoshi lost not much brain upon, rather sth like, it needs to be lifted when time is near and Moores law helps for the rest.

And due to growth and work scaling issues Satoshi resigned, not to be seen as a person, a king like leader, not to be a single point of failure and he diversified himself to a bunch of new dev persons. Carrying the responsibilities to next levels.

Now we need to do the next level, which is clearly diversifying TEAMs to spread responsibilites.

If core does like Satioshi did and showed it works, they need to step back (from behaving like a king) and lets diversify ideas, work and responsibilities through many, but friendly competing teams.

This is the big future for Satoshi Bitcoin!

Satoshi showed us all and we know, he will never come back as Satoshi, or this diversification mechanics will be obsolete.

Satoshi clearly said he didn't want his software forked and he didn't believe in several implementations of bitcoin:


I don't believe a second, compatible implementation of Bitcoin will ever be a good idea.  So much of the design depends on all nodes getting exactly identical results in lockstep that a second implementation would be a menace to the network.  The MIT license is compatible with all other licenses and commercial uses, so there is no need to rewrite it from a licensing standpoint.

Why are we even still disusing this? It's clear that the game theory behind how bitcoin works does not benefit from "several competing bitcoins".

If your ideas don't make the cut in the main branch it's because they aren't good enough. If you want to compete, then make your own altcoin and if people think it's better than the existing Bitcoin, then people will sell their Bitcoins for your supposed "better-than-current-Bitcoin" altcoin, but don't pretend to cause this hardfork drama every now an then thinking you are doing a favor to anyone, because you are just making the price crash, all for nothing because at the end of the day, people aren't going to trust hardforking amateurs with their money.

Im still waiting for a clear statement of Roger Ver claiming that he will sell all of his BTC for BCC. If he really thinks BCC is better than BTC, he surely will dump them right?

+1 for Satoshi
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