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Quote from: ultrloa on October 29, 2022, 06:44:33 AM

Its easy to spot AI generated arts and so far there's no participant submit a the same like art on the contest so maybe other participants are aware that they have less chances to win if they use this because for sure many people will criticize them for submitting a AI generated art. So far we can see a good submission so maybe we will mot see this kind of art at the moment.

"For now". Let's all remember that what we call "AI" right now is not something that can think all by itself, it's something that we put in machine learning and that's how it operates. If you put 100 paintings from the world famous painters then it would definitely create something good, but if I draw 100 horrible things that would be like stickman at best, then it would create terrible things.

This is why it's quite understandable that we can understand what is AI and what is not right now but when the time comes and they learn from billions of different arts and all mash it together all depending on the level of talent and understand art deeply, then we would be able to give a command to do something that would be just like a real person drew it.

It will make all these competitions mute point because it would give people a chance to participate and we would have 10-20 real people whereas 500+ people joining with AI results since it would be just a click and maybe a render time.

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Quote from: aysg76 on October 28, 2022, 08:09:33 AM

Decentralised streaming platforms? That's different. Anyway, I don't think they will ever take off since this market has already become saturated currently.

As centralized streaming platforms like Twitch and YouTube gets more strict with their terms against these type of gambling games there will be more streamers that will switch on decentralized platforms. Most (if not all) of these streaming platforms are based on blockchain technology. Few examples of these are THETA, DLive, and LBRY.

I've used LBRY before but haven't used it ever since maybe the world is still dominated by the centralized entities but decentralized streaming platforms is the future especially if they scale, what I mean in terms of monetization. Haven't tried DLive and THETA yet though.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on October 27, 2022, 10:19:28 PM

After Twitch ban various gambling games and casinos including Roobet, now Roobet is doing live stream on DLive based on their tweet [1] I don't know the other casinos use which platform for their streamers, but I think DLive is still a small platform since the traffic is quite low. But based on my observations, there's many streamers are using this platform for gambling.

[1] https://twitter.com/Roobet/status/1585708728980049923

I also heard from lots of gambling streamers that they are migrating to Dlive. Those who already migrated to Youtube are also creating an account to stream their gambling activities on Dlive.

Quote from: vv181 on October 29, 2022, 12:34:56 PM

So any reason why would Twitch ban Roobet and others? Or is it just simply company choices to be unfriendly to gambling sites?

One of the published reason of one article why Twitch Ban some gambling content is because of an incident where one of its streamers reportedly stole tens of thousands of dollars from its fans and fellow streamer in order to support his gambling habit.[1]

[1] Twitch bans some gambling content after an outcry from streamers

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Quote from: Apocollapse on October 27, 2022, 10:19:28 PM

After Twitch ban various gambling games and casinos including Roobet

It seems like I'm out of the loop regarding Twitch banning Roobet. AFAIK, Twitch does indeed prohibit streamers from playing games on an unlicensed gambling site based on their new policy, I thought Roobet was safe, but looking at https://safety.twitch.tv/s/article/Community-Guidelines?language=en_US, Roobet gambling content is indeed not permitted among many other cryptocurrency casinos.

So any reason why would Twitch ban Roobet and others? Or is it just simply company choices to be unfriendly to gambling sites?

Quote from: Eureka_07 on October 29, 2022, 12:32:11 PM

~Few examples of these are THETA, DLive, and LBRY.

IMO, LBRY seems prominent considering other choices, but I don't know for sure whether they support live streaming. One thing for use if you use it via Odysee, it does support live stream.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 29, 2022, 12:20:43 AM

Quote from: aysg76 on October 28, 2022, 08:09:33 AM

Decentralised streaming platforms? That's different. Anyway, I don't think they will ever take off since this market has already become saturated currently.

As centralized streaming platforms like Twitch and YouTube gets more strict with their terms against these type of gambling games there will be more streamers that will switch on decentralized platforms. Most (if not all) of these streaming platforms are based on blockchain technology. Few examples of these are THETA, DLive, and LBRY.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on October 27, 2022, 10:19:28 PM

After Twitch ban various gambling games and casinos including Roobet, now Roobet is doing live stream on DLive based on their tweet [1] I don't know the other casinos use which platform for their streamers, but I think DLive is still a small platform since the traffic is quite low. But based on my observations, there's many streamers are using this platform for gambling.

What the heck is DLive? Never heard of it before. They should try advertising their site through YouTube instead regardless of the complications involved since very few people are aware of small streaming platforms like DLive.

This is the first time I have heard about Dlive. Seems it's a blockchain based video streaming platform. Rumble is a very popular alternative platform of Twitch and Youtube right now because of the ban of some famous people Cheesy

To be honest, I don't know why they didn't choose Rubmle, is it prohibited to stream gambling content on Rumble? I don't know.

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Quote from: ultrloa on October 29, 2022, 06:44:33 AM

Its easy to spot AI generated arts and so far there's no participant submit a the same like art on the contest so maybe other participants are aware that they have less chances to win if they use this because for sure many people will criticize them for submitting a AI generated art. So far we can see a good submission so maybe we will mot see this kind of art at the moment.

Thanks for the replies guys and providing the links with some more information behind it. I have no knowledge nor talent for art so was mainly curious about it. Good luck to all the participants and it will be interesting to see the submissions of everybody!

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Definitely, they have their own standard and you can easily distinguish the art if it’s came from an AI software or not. Roobet will not ruin their reputation by just picking undeserving winners, there’s only 5 winners for this contest so expect a more competitive entries this time. A lot of reserve post already, that means many are already working with their art so waste no time and focus on your work now. I already submitted my entry, I hope it stand a chance.

How to check if it is not coming from AI software? I am just curious as that seems pretty difficult for me as. Based on the previous contests, you saw fantastic artworks so how to make the difference between a human and AI for artwork?

It's not that difficult because you can differentiate between normal art and AI generated art with lot of factors and those who are judging these art contest have all the knowledge about it.But if you are curious to find out then this article will help you understand it in much better way : Check AI or human

Its easy to spot AI generated arts and so far there's no participant submit a the same like art on the contest so maybe other participants are aware that they have less chances to win if they use this because for sure many people will criticize them for submitting a AI generated art. So far we can see a good submission so maybe we will mot see this kind of art at the moment.

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Quote from: babygun on October 27, 2022, 04:56:51 PM

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Definitely, they have their own standard and you can easily distinguish the art if it’s came from an AI software or not. Roobet will not ruin their reputation by just picking undeserving winners, there’s only 5 winners for this contest so expect a more competitive entries this time. A lot of reserve post already, that means many are already working with their art so waste no time and focus on your work now. I already submitted my entry, I hope it stand a chance.

How to check if it is not coming from AI software? I am just curious as that seems pretty difficult for me as. Based on the previous contests, you saw fantastic artworks so how to make the difference between a human and AI for artwork?

It's not that difficult because you can differentiate between normal art and AI generated art with lot of factors and those who are judging these art contest have all the knowledge about it.But if you are curious to find out then this article will help you understand it in much better way : Check AI or human

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Quote from: Apocollapse on October 27, 2022, 10:19:28 PM

After Twitch ban various gambling games and casinos including Roobet, now Roobet is doing live stream on DLive based on their tweet [1] I don't know the other casinos use which platform for their streamers, but I think DLive is still a small platform since the traffic is quite low. But based on my observations, there's many streamers are using this platform for gambling.

What the heck is DLive? Never heard of it before. They should try advertising their site through YouTube instead regardless of the complications involved since very few people are aware of small streaming platforms like DLive.

Quote from: aysg76 on October 28, 2022, 08:09:33 AM

They will be moving to some other platforms for sure because they aren't going off these big sponsored deal even after twitch ban but there will be short term effect on the views as other platforms might not have that much audience to watch them playing and have to set-up new account gaining from zero point so it will be difficult but we will see many new streaming platforms coming up in decentralised manner.

Decentralised streaming platforms? That's different. Anyway, I don't think they will ever take off since this market has already become saturated currently.

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Quote from: babygun on October 27, 2022, 04:56:51 PM

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Definitely, they have their own standard and you can easily distinguish the art if it’s came from an AI software or not. Roobet will not ruin their reputation by just picking undeserving winners, there’s only 5 winners for this contest so expect a more competitive entries this time. A lot of reserve post already, that means many are already working with their art so waste no time and focus on your work now. I already submitted my entry, I hope it stand a chance.

How to check if it is not coming from AI software? I am just curious as that seems pretty difficult for me as. Based on the previous contests, you saw fantastic artworks so how to make the difference between a human and AI for artwork?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hgfbf5OOoI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jytmYCC5OtE

Check these vids, you would eventually have the idea on what it is.
In overall, i dont see for it to be bad to be included on this competition.Just like the rest been saying
that Roobet does have their own criteria.They do have all the rights on whats prohibited and whats allowed.
Lets see on future submissions if it does really look like this.

I suppose we can do some photo forensics, pretty much similar to verifying if a photo was photoshopped, to check if the output was generated by an AI or not?
maybe these AIs like Dall-E and midjourney could have verifying websites where you post an image and they tell you if it was generated by them or not, that would be quite cool

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Quote from: Apocollapse on October 27, 2022, 10:19:28 PM

After Twitch ban various gambling games and casinos including Roobet, now Roobet is doing live stream on DLive based on their tweet [1] I don't know the other casinos use which platform for their streamers, but I think DLive is still a small platform since the traffic is quite low. But based on my observations, there's many streamers are using this platform for gambling.

[1] https://twitter.com/Roobet/status/1585708728980049923

They will be moving to some other platforms for sure because they aren't going off these big sponsored deal even after twitch ban but there will be short term effect on the views as other platforms might not have that much audience to watch them playing and have to set-up new account gaining from zero point so it will be difficult but we will see many new streaming platforms coming up in decentralised manner.

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After Twitch ban various gambling games and casinos including Roobet, now Roobet is doing live stream on DLive based on their tweet [1] I don't know the other casinos use which platform for their streamers, but I think DLive is still a small platform since the traffic is quite low. But based on my observations, there's many streamers are using this platform for gambling.

[1] https://twitter.com/Roobet/status/1585708728980049923

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Quote from: babygun on October 27, 2022, 04:56:51 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Definitely, they have their own standard and you can easily distinguish the art if it’s came from an AI software or not. Roobet will not ruin their reputation by just picking undeserving winners, there’s only 5 winners for this contest so expect a more competitive entries this time. A lot of reserve post already, that means many are already working with their art so waste no time and focus on your work now. I already submitted my entry, I hope it stand a chance.

How to check if it is not coming from AI software? I am just curious as that seems pretty difficult for me as. Based on the previous contests, you saw fantastic artworks so how to make the difference between a human and AI for artwork?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hgfbf5OOoI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jytmYCC5OtE

Check these vids, you would eventually have the idea on what it is.
In overall, i dont see for it to be bad to be included on this competition.Just like the rest been saying
that Roobet does have their own criteria.They do have all the rights on whats prohibited and whats allowed.
Lets see on future submissions if it does really look like this.

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Definitely, they have their own standard and you can easily distinguish the art if it’s came from an AI software or not. Roobet will not ruin their reputation by just picking undeserving winners, there’s only 5 winners for this contest so expect a more competitive entries this time. A lot of reserve post already, that means many are already working with their art so waste no time and focus on your work now. I already submitted my entry, I hope it stand a chance.

How to check if it is not coming from AI software? I am just curious as that seems pretty difficult for me as. Based on the previous contests, you saw fantastic artworks so how to make the difference between a human and AI for artwork?

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Quote from: Taskford on October 27, 2022, 04:08:26 PM

Could technically win because it will generate beautiful art piece without giving to much effort on it. Ai will just help you to give what picture you ask on the internet so this will give less effort for the people who use it and that is not good for the roobet contest held. Although its quietly cool to see what's in the mind of people but I don't think this should be consider to accept on contest where there are manual effort inserted.

Again, Roobet team already know how to handle this kind of contest after years of doing this and I’m confident about the fairness of this site and with Hhampuz, we can have an assurance that winners are really deserving. Try to participate now and you’ll see the real talent of every participants, they are all good to the point that you’ll get jealous of their talent. Anyway, few days left before the end of the contest, we still have time to participate.

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Quote from: FanEagle on October 27, 2022, 02:11:32 PM

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Quote from: aysg76 on October 27, 2022, 08:05:43 AM

The art contest are for testing your creativity and if you are using some image generation apps for it then you don't have a chance to win or deserve to win at all because you are not even working hard for it and just submitting image generated by that app but contest are for original art only.But what I was saying above was there are some members who make 3D art themselves but not on big level.

To win in art contests, you must have good art as well as proof of works. You can not beat so many talented artists if you use automated apps, AI-based art tools. They don't provide you enough high quality arts and you can not show your proof of work too.

Arts made by tools won't match the conditions of art contest too. Furthermore, you can not plagiarise, steal arts of others and submit it in contest then become one of winners.

Art contest participants will inform the manager about that too. Cheaters are not tolerated in art contests by company, manager and participants.

AI art could technically win, if it is not allowed to do that then I do not know what will happen, if that’s the reason why people can't win with AI works and not allowed that would be understandable. But if we are talking about just "quality of work" then there are better and better AI software out there who are making art, and that means eventually there could be one that could take the award, and in that case it’s a possibility.

I am not saying that it’s going to happen today, but it could happen in the future when AI gets better. However, like I said if it’s not allowed to use AI then in that case it wouldn't be possible no matter how good the quality of it is.

Could technically win because it will generate beautiful art piece without giving to much effort on it. Ai will just help you to give what picture you ask on the internet so this will give less effort for the people who use it and that is not good for the roobet contest held. Although its quietly cool to see what's in the mind of people but I don't think this should be consider to accept on contest where there are manual effort inserted.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 27, 2022, 01:10:01 PM

Quote from: arwin100 on October 27, 2022, 06:06:57 AM

I don't know if there's a clarification about 3d art and if this one allowed it will just tolerate people to don't put any huge effort on the contest because as many people stated they can just generate it everywhere and then submit it to the contest thread. I do hope there's separate contest between personal created arts and 3d ones so that this will not go unfair to any artist who join the contest.

That's exactly the point of AI art. It decreases the effort required to generate mind-blowing art. For example, NFTs took off like crazy recently primarily because of this kind of tech.

AI art should be utilised in a legit manner though which implies generating art in a 100% unique manner without plagiarising others works.

Roobet already limit their Art contest, and whatever your art is you can join though there’s a rule that you should not still others work, and if you guys have evidence that a participant steal a work online by using that AI system then you can just report it, so far upon seeing the participants it looks like they hand drawn it, and there’s a lot of good art already.

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Quote from: hd49728 on October 27, 2022, 08:29:46 AM

Quote from: aysg76 on October 27, 2022, 08:05:43 AM

The art contest are for testing your creativity and if you are using some image generation apps for it then you don't have a chance to win or deserve to win at all because you are not even working hard for it and just submitting image generated by that app but contest are for original art only.But what I was saying above was there are some members who make 3D art themselves but not on big level.

To win in art contests, you must have good art as well as proof of works. You can not beat so many talented artists if you use automated apps, AI-based art tools. They don't provide you enough high quality arts and you can not show your proof of work too.

Arts made by tools won't match the conditions of art contest too. Furthermore, you can not plagiarise, steal arts of others and submit it in contest then become one of winners.

Art contest participants will inform the manager about that too. Cheaters are not tolerated in art contests by company, manager and participants.

AI art could technically win, if it is not allowed to do that then I do not know what will happen, if that’s the reason why people can't win with AI works and not allowed that would be understandable. But if we are talking about just "quality of work" then there are better and better AI software out there who are making art, and that means eventually there could be one that could take the award, and in that case it’s a possibility.

I am not saying that it’s going to happen today, but it could happen in the future when AI gets better. However, like I said if it’s not allowed to use AI then in that case it wouldn't be possible no matter how good the quality of it is.

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Quote from: arwin100 on October 27, 2022, 06:06:57 AM

I don't know if there's a clarification about 3d art and if this one allowed it will just tolerate people to don't put any huge effort on the contest because as many people stated they can just generate it everywhere and then submit it to the contest thread. I do hope there's separate contest between personal created arts and 3d ones so that this will not go unfair to any artist who join the contest.

That's exactly the point of AI art. It decreases the effort required to generate mind-blowing art. For example, NFTs took off like crazy recently primarily because of this kind of tech.

AI art should be utilised in a legit manner though which implies generating art in a 100% unique manner without plagiarising others works.

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