Hi sir @Hhampuz I hope you would not allow AI generated artwork in Roobet Contest.
As we are aware that AI artwork are just combination of all available resources on the internet and that will be a plagiarism if someone submitted an entry that is AI Generated.
I humbly suggest that we require a work in progress in every entry 😅
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If we come back to the company choices whether they are willing to take an overhead cost for managing the data or outsourcing it. Do note that, KYC/AML management doesn't solely imply a simple thing like verifying whether the user is legitimate and matches the provided documents. There are many levels within this subject like fraud analysis and checking if one identity is not part of some blacklist or something. And it requires data whereas some companies who specialized in that kind of subject already have.
Let's check a third-party platform that Roobet use, Veriff and Seon. If you are going to their website, you can clearly see that they are solving many problems that are worth outsourcing if some companies are dealing with fraud or identity business requirements.
I understand that it takes time, but you could literally just hire one or two people for that job and be done with it and roobet is a multi-million dollar company that keeps on giving away a lot of stuff to the gamblers as well. Meaning they can definitely afford to hire some people, hell hire a dozen people if they want to, sure that would be useless cost but they can afford it at least it looks like that. Let's check a third-party platform that Roobet use, Veriff and Seon. If you are going to their website, you can clearly see that they are solving many problems that are worth outsourcing if some companies are dealing with fraud or identity business requirements.
This is why I am not entirely sure the reason would be the hard work it would put. I feel like it is just to make sure that they separate the KYC to another company, for "just in case" reasons, it is adding a layer of security and that’s better.
A sector that is related to identity verification, fraud analysis, and money laundering detection can not be handled by one or two people. And yes Roobet might be able to afford the team to manage regarding the sector. But it came back to profit, what decision is the most efficient yet profitable for the company? Well, it's absolutely to use the third party, not to mention, the data they all already have for the analysis.
I believe there is no "just in case" reason. Running and choosing business decisions should mainly get the most profitable case as possible, so choosing a third party for identity and fraud management is actually predictable and favourable in business aspects, even not merely because of security reasons.
many end up choosing a third-part platform that in my opinion it's probably the best option
though these companies are almost all the time based in locations like hong kong where compliance is not so strong
ends up that if someone submits documents to KYC websites they'll never know if it'll stay there forever or not
If we come back to the company choices whether they are willing to take an overhead cost for managing the data or outsourcing it. Do note that, KYC/AML management doesn't solely imply a simple thing like verifying whether the user is legitimate and matches the provided documents. There are many levels within this subject like fraud analysis and checking if one identity is not part of some blacklist or something. And it requires data whereas some companies who specialized in that kind of subject already have.
Let's check a third-party platform that Roobet use, Veriff and Seon. If you are going to their website, you can clearly see that they are solving many problems that are worth outsourcing if some companies are dealing with fraud or identity business requirements.
I understand that it takes time, but you could literally just hire one or two people for that job and be done with it and roobet is a multi-million dollar company that keeps on giving away a lot of stuff to the gamblers as well. Meaning they can definitely afford to hire some people, hell hire a dozen people if they want to, sure that would be useless cost but they can afford it at least it looks like that. Let's check a third-party platform that Roobet use, Veriff and Seon. If you are going to their website, you can clearly see that they are solving many problems that are worth outsourcing if some companies are dealing with fraud or identity business requirements.
This is why I am not entirely sure the reason would be the hard work it would put. I feel like it is just to make sure that they separate the KYC to another company, for "just in case" reasons, it is adding a layer of security and that’s better.
A sector that is related to identity verification, fraud analysis, and money laundering detection can not be handled by one or two people. And yes Roobet might be able to afford the team to manage regarding the sector. But it came back to profit, what decision is the most efficient yet profitable for the company? Well, it's absolutely to use the third party, not to mention, the data they all already have for the analysis.
I believe there is no "just in case" reason. Running and choosing business decisions should mainly get the most profitable case as possible, so choosing a third party for identity and fraud management is actually predictable and favourable in business aspects, even not merely because of security reasons.
So finally the awaited art contest has arrived and this time on the Halloween theme but there is another restriction this time like cutting the winners to half and rewarding the top 5 winners only and one art entry only.But still will try to participate in it along with other creative artist to get some creativity boost.
Eager to see new creations coming up with this theme so will look forward to it.
Eager to see new creations coming up with this theme so will look forward to it.
This fighter is really cool in a roobet shirt, is this going to be sold to the public 
https://twitter.com/Roobet/status/1580083004117987330
Although the Roobet t-shirt is really cool, but I doubt there's many people are really want to buy it except the one who promote Roobet https://twitter.com/Roobet/status/1580083004117987330
maybe if there's no Roobet word in the t-shirt and just a mascot, it would be fine. There's many users are create a merchandise design about Roobet in the past, there's many great design that worth to be created as Roobet's merchandise Roobet.com |Merch Design Contest | $1500 + Set of Merch up for grabs! 3 WinnersEdit:
The long waited art contest I have been waiting for is already happen! Roobet.com | Art Contest "Halloween Special" | $2850 Up for grabs! Ends Oct 31st
But the prize pool is reduced and only top five will win. This will be hard since the previous art contest, there's many good art that still not taking top 10 places.
I agree
it's a never ending debate but a really important one
maybe it'd deserve its own topic, in reality.
I don't think roobet or these big websites will change their policy anytime soon either
after you adopt KYC it's no turning back.
This has been the issue since Roobet implement KYC without any announcement ahead of time, and until now many gamblers can’t get over it. I agree that once you fill out the KYC, you’re exposed already and commenting here now is already too late. Well, so far there’s no issue with the security of Roobet since it’s secured and there’s no issue yet about the leaks of data base with Roobet so I assume all our personal details are safe with Roobet, I hope this can bring peace of mind to those who are still worried about the KYC in Roobet.it's a never ending debate but a really important one
maybe it'd deserve its own topic, in reality.
I don't think roobet or these big websites will change their policy anytime soon either
after you adopt KYC it's no turning back.
This fighter is really cool in a roobet shirt, is this going to be sold to the public
https://twitter.com/Roobet/status/1580083004117987330
If you manage to participate in events recently then yeah you need to comply with their KYC as this was strictly implemented earlier last year but if you happen to join or play in the past? nope their KYC requirement is only for those under questioned and not mandatory , I have been playing and joining event for many times even before and yes there are no strict kyc back then.
but about the info of each account? I'm sure that this will remain safe and private as this will only runs from the team and the players involved.
I am not sure if that's the case. I have been gambling here way before KYC was a thing, and as soon as it became a thing they asked for simple stuff. I agree it wasn't like my face or anything, but I was still asked some information. So new or old, you are asked KYC to gamble here. It's understandable since they are multi-million dollar company and want to protect it.but about the info of each account? I'm sure that this will remain safe and private as this will only runs from the team and the players involved.
The idea that you would get something amazing out of this is a big deal, and if you want to do that then you have to share some stuff, especially if you end up winning a huge amount since it would actually be required by law, since it's a huge amount, to make sure not a bad person got it.
I agree
it's a never ending debate but a really important one
maybe it'd deserve its own topic, in reality.
I don't think roobet or these big websites will change their policy anytime soon either
after you adopt KYC it's no turning back.
This has been the issue since Roobet implement KYC without any announcement ahead of time, and until now many gamblers can’t get over it. I agree that once you fill out the KYC, you’re exposed already and commenting here now is already too late. Well, so far there’s no issue with the security of Roobet since it’s secured and there’s no issue yet about the leaks of data base with Roobet so I assume all our personal details are safe with Roobet, I hope this can bring peace of mind to those who are still worried about the KYC in Roobet. it's a never ending debate but a really important one
maybe it'd deserve its own topic, in reality.
I don't think roobet or these big websites will change their policy anytime soon either
after you adopt KYC it's no turning back.
Let's not forget that 98% of all crypto casinos have sided with the players but the abuse and manipulation of some gambling users which used casinos to tint stolen crypto are what make the SEC and other government agency to introduce the KYC/AML in the crypto casino setting. Besides, we need to understand the casino is not happy about spending some extra funds on KYC verification and user data protection.
Having said that, if the platform can be easily hacked as you said a lot of issues would have happened before now.
That is true, it's not something that casinos would want, why would they need your KYC for themselves? It is not something that would help them at all. However, we should also realize that after it has already happened, and after KYC was introduced, some of the casinos started to use it to prevent people from doing things against the rules, so nothing government related but purely for casinos sake.Having said that, if the platform can be easily hacked as you said a lot of issues would have happened before now.
So, it wasn't like purely for government after a while, it was also for the casinos that dealt with it as well. It's definitely a benefit for the whole casino world, either you ask it right away, or ask it when something happens, but they do ask for it.
I think is time for people to ask themselves the below question, specifically those that think some casinos are not been fair when they implement KYC.
If KYC somehow limits the level of casino users why would they choose to use it?
really ask out for some KYC.I dont know for high rollers or whales but i wouldnt be surprised that they would really be asked out or into these common conditions considering that they are putting and pulling huge
chunks of money and since these platforms are regulated then they are really that obliged to have those requirements.We might not see on small scale gamblers or rollers but
there are some different situation for those who are whales.
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Let's not forget that 98% of all crypto casinos have sided with the players but the abuse and manipulation of some gambling users which used casinos to tint stolen crypto are what make the SEC and other government agency to introduce the KYC/AML in the crypto casino setting. Besides, we need to understand the casino is not happy about spending some extra funds on KYC verification and user data protection.
Having said that, if the platform can be easily hacked as you said a lot of issues would have happened before now.
That is true, it's not something that casinos would want, why would they need your KYC for themselves? It is not something that would help them at all. However, we should also realize that after it has already happened, and after KYC was introduced, some of the casinos started to use it to prevent people from doing things against the rules, so nothing government related but purely for casinos sake.Having said that, if the platform can be easily hacked as you said a lot of issues would have happened before now.
So, it wasn't like purely for government after a while, it was also for the casinos that dealt with it as well. It's definitely a benefit for the whole casino world, either you ask it right away, or ask it when something happens, but they do ask for it.
I think is time for people to ask themselves the below question, specifically those that think some casinos are not been fair when they implement KYC.
If KYC somehow limits the level of casino users why would they choose to use it?
KYC is very important because it is the key to their authenticity, the subject is complicated, but both sides must be understood.
That's tough. Majority of the gamblers including me will continue hating on KYC due to various reasons which is why it's very, very difficult for both sides of the KYC debate to reach a mutual consensus.I'd say bear market will make them get benefit since gamblers will try to gamble more in order to get profit from bear market and the fees is much lower due to the network aren't busy.
That makes zero sense. Gamblers will try to gamble less due to the bear market which will directly cause these gambling sites to earn less in the short-term.yes, like many cat and mouse games this will be a never ending debate with the probable outcome of KYC policies getting more and more restrict over time, and possible some decentralized alternatives appearing here and there
We've seen that there are still lots of platforms or companies that doesnt apply that KYC this is why we do still have choice or option to take.
I do agree that this is really indeed a never ending debate or talks about KYC.
I agree
it's a never ending debate but a really important one
maybe it'd deserve its own topic, in reality.
I don't think roobet or these big websites will change their policy anytime soon either
after you adopt KYC it's no turning back.
Let's not forget that 98% of all crypto casinos have sided with the players but the abuse and manipulation of some gambling users which used casinos to tint stolen crypto are what make the SEC and other government agency to introduce the KYC/AML in the crypto casino setting. Besides, we need to understand the casino is not happy about spending some extra funds on KYC verification and user data protection.
Having said that, if the platform can be easily hacked as you said a lot of issues would have happened before now.
That is true, it's not something that casinos would want, why would they need your KYC for themselves? It is not something that would help them at all. However, we should also realize that after it has already happened, and after KYC was introduced, some of the casinos started to use it to prevent people from doing things against the rules, so nothing government related but purely for casinos sake.Having said that, if the platform can be easily hacked as you said a lot of issues would have happened before now.
So, it wasn't like purely for government after a while, it was also for the casinos that dealt with it as well. It's definitely a benefit for the whole casino world, either you ask it right away, or ask it when something happens, but they do ask for it.
Yes the level 1 kyc implementation is so sudden. But as you can see many gamblers still comply and chose to stay, not only those who have funds on their account but the gamblers who trusted Roobet as a reliable casino. As you have pointed out the Government have ways to regulate the casinos and it's inevitable for them to continue to operate. Thus it's up to us if we will comply or will stay away.
With level 1 kyc I don't have too much problem but going up and submition of my personal documents is not fine with me and don't need it also being a small gambler over Roobet and like to play over here.Many others also have the the opinion that they want to play over legit casino with KYC also instead of going to some unknown casino that could steal their funds.So we can keep playing or find other options if we are not satisfied nothing else can be done.Many think about staying here even if there's KYC required its because roobet already establish a good reputation here that's why majority trust them and the only people who's skeptical are those complete newbie. They also need to understand that evading this requirements stu no guarantee for them to get comprised since if they go on small casino the risk is so high for them to get scam.
Yes the level 1 kyc implementation is so sudden. But as you can see many gamblers still comply and chose to stay, not only those who have funds on their account but the gamblers who trusted Roobet as a reliable casino. As you have pointed out the Government have ways to regulate the casinos and it's inevitable for them to continue to operate. Thus it's up to us if we will comply or will stay away.
With level 1 kyc I don't have too much problem but going up and submition of my personal documents is not fine with me and don't need it also being a small gambler over Roobet and like to play over here.Many others also have the the opinion that they want to play over legit casino with KYC also instead of going to some unknown casino that could steal their funds.So we can keep playing or find other options if we are not satisfied nothing else can be done. hero member
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There are some casino that has already integrated Monero as a payment method before the compliance risk which led to the delisting of Monero on some tier 1 exchanges and the integration of Monero can still happen in some casinos. However, it's going to be 1 out of 10 casinos because of any form of anonymous deposit or withdrawal against casino Master license holder rules and regulations.
Yes, and I really like that integration in the event that it happens, because not everyone will do it, perhaps for fear that they might give them even more follow-up? I'm not very sure, but the SEC may be able to get in there, I think that the current KYC requirements that are so demanding, both for casinos and exchanges, is for that same action, to be able to do follow-ups, so they don't use Monero, because I've seen As an exchange as prestigious as Binance, they have surrendered to the is of many governments and authorities of some countries and have blocked many users of the exchange, including the blocking of some user funds that those governments considered suspicious, this is good for users. which are bad actually, but Monero makes the transactions more private, and more anonymous, I think that would make it more difficult for the authorities to trace them. I think that may be a compelling reason today.
The exchange like Binance has to surrender to the authorities because it's never a DEX, to begin with, but I'm surprised that they never delist Monero.
Having said that, I just want people to understand that no matter how we like privacy and no KYC for huge withdrawals on casinos since Cryptocurrency is the talk worldwide we will never escape the KYC aspect except if a privacy focus project creates a no KYC casino but if we consider the risk involved it doesn't worth it.
I think this trend will continue and probably get more extreme in the future
governments sanctioning privacy tools and people having to find alternatives if they care about privacy
it won't be different with online casinos.
Having said that, if the platform can be easily hacked as you said a lot of issues would have happened before now.
There are some casino that has already integrated Monero as a payment method before the compliance risk which led to the delisting of Monero on some tier 1 exchanges and the integration of Monero can still happen in some casinos. However, it's going to be 1 out of 10 casinos because of any form of anonymous deposit or withdrawal against casino Master license holder rules and regulations.
Yes, and I really like that integration in the event that it happens, because not everyone will do it, perhaps for fear that they might give them even more follow-up? I'm not very sure, but the SEC may be able to get in there, I think that the current KYC requirements that are so demanding, both for casinos and exchanges, is for that same action, to be able to do follow-ups, so they don't use Monero, because I've seen As an exchange as prestigious as Binance, they have surrendered to the is of many governments and authorities of some countries and have blocked many users of the exchange, including the blocking of some user funds that those governments considered suspicious, this is good for users. which are bad actually, but Monero makes the transactions more private, and more anonymous, I think that would make it more difficult for the authorities to trace them. I think that may be a compelling reason today.
The exchange like Binance has to surrender to the authorities because it's never a DEX, to begin with, but I'm surprised that they never delist Monero.
Having said that, I just want people to understand that no matter how we like privacy and no KYC for huge withdrawals on casinos since Cryptocurrency is the talk worldwide we will never escape the KYC aspect except if a privacy focus project creates a no KYC casino but if we consider the risk involved it doesn't worth it.
I think this trend will continue and probably get more extreme in the future
governments sanctioning privacy tools and people having to find alternatives if they care about privacy
it won't be different with online casinos.
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Government pressurized casino companies to use KYC because the security. Many gamblers use different information in the process of registering KYC. There are sometimes the information used in the site is different from the DOCUMENTS provided for the prove of ownership. That is where the problem is always escalating.
Government regulations have pressured every casino to add an obligation to complete KYC on the terms and conditions, these regulations are based on security and money laundering prevention, but users expect the anonymity factor to be increased so that they do not agree to use KYC even though they do not commit money laundering crimes and others. But there is no other choice if using a centralized gambling platform because it is guided by government regulations.Government pressurized casino companies to use KYC because the security. Many gamblers use different information in the process of registering KYC. There are sometimes the information used in the site is different from the DOCUMENTS provided for the prove of ownership. That is where the problem is always escalating.
This is very true, in casinos we have the complete freedom to choose the one we want, but when choosing it we know that they all have their own rules or laws, and due to the requirements to maintain their authenticity and licenses, they require KYC is something that escapes so much. from the hands of the casino as well as from us, we all know the ances that governments have to put the s mnaos in the crypto world, and they know that casinos handle a lot of money, if they do not meet certain standards it is likely that the casino will be put in danger, a government or a command entity does not care about the life of a casino or a company, they only want their share of the money, and one way they find is through regulations, rules, KYC, it is a tactic.
Most people would agree that KYC was inevitable, but the most worrying and shocking thing here is that the casino is anonymous (it is located in an uncertain part) and the owner of the casino is anonymous, the license of the casino is from a country where the laws are lenient or in certain cases, they don't even have a license, so this same casino asks customers to KYC (deliver their precious documents) to remember that when doing KYC the person delivers an identity document and proof of address, that is, the owner of the anonymous casino is knowing where every customer lives in detail but the customer has never seen the casino owner's face and doesn't even know where the heck the casino is located, so what part of that is fair?
Is the team of Roobet remain anonymous? I’m not following this project for a long time though I manage to participate on their contest and I can say that once you deal with Roobet, you have no choice but to comply with their KYC requirement or else you can’t access your account. If KYC is a requirement, I also agree that the site should also disclose their information, this can also help to at least give peace of mind for the gamblers. but about the info of each account? I'm sure that this will remain safe and private as this will only runs from the team and the players involved.
I understand that many people question KYC, but you have to remember something, in every casino, new or old, there will always be a KYC requirement, this is something that will be normal and that will be for all casinos, for me I already know I see normal, also sometimes as players we want something and then we complain, that is, sometimes when casinos do not have certain licenses, we say that it is important, that licenses are needed to be able to trust completely, when there are licenses and they require KYC then we get upset, and yes, there are reasons, but if they don't demand that, they won't be in compliance with the law, and they could sanction the casino, or even close it, sometimes we must accept certain demands, and we are all free to play in casinos Our favorites, in the case of Robbet, it has always shown its great commitment to players, and it is reliable and has a great reputation, for me that is enough, of course, there are more demanding customers, but the trend is always It will go in that direction.
Most people would agree that KYC was inevitable, but the most worrying and shocking thing here is that the casino is anonymous (it is located in an uncertain part) and the owner of the casino is anonymous, the license of the casino is from a country where the laws are lenient or in certain cases, they don't even have a license, so this same casino asks customers to KYC (deliver their precious documents) to remember that when doing KYC the person delivers an identity document and proof of address, that is, the owner of the anonymous casino is knowing where every customer lives in detail but the customer has never seen the casino owner's face and doesn't even know where the heck the casino is located, so what part of that is fair?
Is the team of Roobet remain anonymous? I’m not following this project for a long time though I manage to participate on their contest and I can say that once you deal with Roobet, you have no choice but to comply with their KYC requirement or else you can’t access your account. If KYC is a requirement, I also agree that the site should also disclose their information, this can also help to at least give peace of mind for the gamblers. but about the info of each account? I'm sure that this will remain safe and private as this will only runs from the team and the players involved.
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Government pressurized casino companies to use KYC because the security. Many gamblers use different information in the process of registering KYC. There are sometimes the information used in the site is different from the DOCUMENTS provided for the prove of ownership. That is where the problem is always escalating.
Government regulations have pressured every casino to add an obligation to complete KYC on the terms and conditions, these regulations are based on security and money laundering prevention, but users expect the anonymity factor to be increased so that they do not agree to use KYC even though they do not commit money laundering crimes and others. But there is no other choice if using a centralized gambling platform because it is guided by government regulations.Government pressurized casino companies to use KYC because the security. Many gamblers use different information in the process of registering KYC. There are sometimes the information used in the site is different from the DOCUMENTS provided for the prove of ownership. That is where the problem is always escalating.
Most people would agree that KYC was inevitable, but the most worrying and shocking thing here is that the casino is anonymous (it is located in an uncertain part) and the owner of the casino is anonymous, the license of the casino is from a country where the laws are lenient or in certain cases, they don't even have a license, so this same casino asks customers to KYC (deliver their precious documents) to remember that when doing KYC the person delivers an identity document and proof of address, that is, the owner of the anonymous casino is knowing where every customer lives in detail but the customer has never seen the casino owner's face and doesn't even know where the heck the casino is located, so what part of that is fair?
Is the team of Roobet remain anonymous? I’m not following this project for a long time though I manage to participate on their contest and I can say that once you deal with Roobet, you have no choice but to comply with their KYC requirement or else you can’t access your account. If KYC is a requirement, I also agree that the site should also disclose their information, this can also help to at least give peace of mind for the gamblers. 
KYC is very important because it is the key to their authenticity, the subject is complicated, but both sides must be understood.
That's tough. Majority of the gamblers including me will continue hating on KYC due to various reasons which is why it's very, very difficult for both sides of the KYC debate to reach a mutual consensus.I'd say bear market will make them get benefit since gamblers will try to gamble more in order to get profit from bear market and the fees is much lower due to the network aren't busy.
That makes zero sense. Gamblers will try to gamble less due to the bear market which will directly cause these gambling sites to earn less in the short-term.yes, like many cat and mouse games this will be a never ending debate with the probable outcome of KYC policies getting more and more restrict over time, and possible some decentralized alternatives appearing here and there
We've seen that there are still lots of platforms or companies that doesnt apply that KYC this is why we do still have choice or option to take.
I do agree that this is really indeed a never ending debate or talks about KYC.
Most people would agree that KYC was inevitable, but the most worrying and shocking thing here is that the casino is anonymous (it is located in an uncertain part) and the owner of the casino is anonymous, the license of the casino is from a country where the laws are lenient or in certain cases, they don't even have a license, so this same casino asks customers to KYC (deliver their precious documents) to remember that when doing KYC the person delivers an identity document and proof of address, that is, the owner of the anonymous casino is knowing where every customer lives in detail but the customer has never seen the casino owner's face and doesn't even know where the heck the casino is located, so what part of that is fair?
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