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KJO
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It's never to late to join the party folks, but if you wait to long all the good appetizers will be gone Smiley

Who cares about appetizers when the main course is so tasty?




My ribs hurt from laughing.
legendary
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Risto is and will always be just a speculator. His other delusions are just that.

According to definition, "speculation" is an act of foreseeing that an asset has a greater EV than PV+carry cost.

Being "just" a speculator is a decent income if you are even a little successful.

No, according to definition "speculation" is the act of foreseeing the price of something going up (or down) irrespective of underlying value and profiting from that.

|Foreseeing that an asset has a greater EV than PV+carry cost is called investing.

There is no difference, other than rhetorical ("investing" is good, "speculation" is bad). The expected value of an asset is exactly equal to the expected price minus carry.

legendary
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World Class Cryptonaire
Risto is and will always be just a speculator. His other delusions are just that.

According to definition, "speculation" is an act of foreseeing that an asset has a greater EV than PV+carry cost.

Being "just" a speculator is a decent income if you are even a little successful.

I agree. It will be very lucrative for you I think.

But if you think you are a builder or even capable organizer of building of high tech, pleeeaaasssseeee...

The recent events have again showed how brilliant a game designer and capable a gamemaster I am (traits I never doubted having) but also how I suck with high tech (which I never was comfortable with).

So yes, replying to anontrolls is still something I do, despite knowing that it is needless and actually that we should grow a culture where negative comments by anons like you are just deleted, positive contribution is treasured. Only the members who have something at stake should be "allowed" to write negatively. Starting today  Cheesy

I always find it entertaining how much people hate on the wealthy. Whether people call it speculating or investing or w/e they wish, you are quite a bit better well off than you were previously and much more than most of us around here. Haters gonna hate!
legendary
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- there is less than 1% than monero can survive next 2 years

I would like you to give me 99-1 odds on a bet that Monero survives the next two years. According to your estimate this bet should be profitable to you.

How much are you willing to bet?
newbie
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The fact is that sovereign governments cannot tolerate deflation unless they consistently run balanced budgets or make surpluses, and have low debt. Individual states and municipalities are irrelevant. Central banks will continually monetize government deficits.

Mathematically incorrect.

Only the members who have something at stake should be "allowed" to write negatively. Starting today  Cheesy

Banning, censoring, and denial of facts won't help you. It is also a violation of your Christian ethics.

The above link analogously explains mathematically how whales can strangle an economy.
legendary
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It's never to late to join the party folks, but if you wait to long all the good appetizers will be gone Smiley

Who cares about appetizers when the main course is so tasty?



Bulltraps all the way down. I get it now. I know when I'm outmatched
sr. member
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It's never to late to join the party folks, but if you wait to long all the good appetizers will be gone Smiley

Who cares about appetizers when the main course is so tasty?

legendary
Activity: 1258
Merit: 1027
Only the members who have something at stake should be "allowed" to write negatively. Starting today  Cheesy

Ahhh, uptopia.

I'd argue we all have something at stake (humanity).

I think most of us came to bitcoin with a cautious, or even pessimistic eye.

Here is a trend I'd love to have some data on:

% of all negative sentiment members that have changed their tune.

It's never to late to join the party folks, but if you wait to long all the good appetizers will be gone Smiley
donator
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1036
Risto is and will always be just a speculator. His other delusions are just that.

According to definition, "speculation" is an act of foreseeing that an asset has a greater EV than PV+carry cost.

Being "just" a speculator is a decent income if you are even a little successful.

I agree. It will be very lucrative for you I think.

But if you think you are a builder or even capable organizer of building of high tech, pleeeaaasssseeee...

The recent events have again showed how brilliant a game designer and capable a gamemaster I am (traits I never doubted having) but also how I suck with high tech (which I never was comfortable with).

So yes, replying to anontrolls is still something I do, despite knowing that it is needless and actually that we should grow a culture where negative comments by anons like you are just deleted, positive contribution is treasured. Only the members who have something at stake should be "allowed" to write negatively. Starting today  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 2324
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Risto is and will always be just a speculator. His other delusions are just that.

According to definition, "speculation" is an act of foreseeing that an asset has a greater EV than PV+carry cost.

Being "just" a speculator is a decent income if you are even a little successful.

No, according to definition "speculation" is the act of foreseeing the price of something going up (or down) irrespective of underlying value and profiting from that.

|Foreseeing that an asset has a greater EV than PV+carry cost is called investing.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1006
100 satoshis -> ISO code
I think oil will be a good investment. I would wait for a bottom of $45 USD and then buy buy buy. The games that the west is playing with Russia is the root cause of this supposed 'glut'. Fact is there is no more of a glut now then when the price was at its high. Some serious money to be made off of crude.

Global economy is collapsing. After Oct. 2015, this will accelerate. There is an excess of supply in everything. Massive deflation on the way.

Yes. However governments will print enormous amounts of fiat to counteract that deflation, whatever it takes. Because they cannot allow their own sovereign debt  to increase in real terms or they will soon find 100% of tax revenue is needed for interest on their debt. They have shown time and again that they will print, stealth-taxing their fiat holding public, to service their own debt first. That is the only choice of default that governments take.

Collapse in fiat means Bitcoin, and gold, UP.

The States of the USA and the municipalities of Germany for example, by law can not print.

Europe is adopting a combination of austerity and monetary easing.

The plan is to confiscate all the pensions and savings to fund the socialism. This is massively deflationary.

Sorry the hyperinflation nonsense is so old. Haven't you guys caught up in your learning process by now? You are where I was at in 2006 in my understanding.

Gold and Bitcoin will go up because of a flight to private assets to escape confiscation, not because of monetary easing. But in the end game none of these will escape taxation. Maybe Gold will if you never sell it again for fiat, you can polish it daily for your ROI. Cash black markets will disappear because the new fiats will be all electronic. Electronic real-estate ownership databases will be created. The socialism will track down every asset.

There is no anonymity. The socialism is in control. Taxes will increase. Confiscation will increase. Down the abyss we go.

And you are where I was 3 years ago.

The fact is that sovereign governments cannot tolerate deflation unless they consistently run balanced budgets or make surpluses, and have low debt. Individual states and municipalities are irrelevant. Central banks will continually monetize government deficits.

This does not cause immediate price inflation for 2 reasons:
1. printed money is parked back at CBs by the bankrupt banks as excess reserves. There are few credit-worthy borrowers after Peak Debt, so banks try to eke out a fraction of a percent at CBs. Hence some CBs try the madness of negative rates. To force the banks to lend, but that is pushing on a wet string.
2. velocity of money falls in a recession, and this is probably the cause of the recent drop in the price of oil. Velocity falling at a global scale.

Eventually printing will overhaul 1 and 2 and cause Venezuela-like inflation.

... the question with all this printing is where is the inflation?

It is in the cash assets of the top 1%. They held a lot of debt products that became worthless or went bad and then they got bailed out, in fact still are getting bailed out and then some. All those bad debts were monetised, i.e. swapped for fiat cash, net result being a huge misallocation of capital into incompetent hands, hyper-financialisation of the economy and an accelerating wealth disparity. Nothing at all to help economic performance, free market incentives, savings or productive enterprises.

When a little more than 10% of the top 1% lose confidence in their now huge fiat cash holdings it will be the end of the CONfidence game, the 'bank' run will be on.

Correct. Printed money always lands in the hands of the banks and asset-rich first.
legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo
I think oil will be a good investment. I would wait for a bottom of $45 USD and then buy buy buy. The games that the west is playing with Russia is the root cause of this supposed 'glut'. Fact is there is no more of a glut now then when the price was at its high. Some serious money to be made off of crude.

Global economy is collapsing. After Oct. 2015, this will accelerate. There is an excess of supply in everything. Massive deflation on the way.

Yes. However governments will print enormous amounts of fiat to counteract that deflation, whatever it takes. Because they cannot allow their own sovereign debt  to increase in real terms or they will soon find 100% of tax revenue is needed for interest on their debt. They have shown time and again that they will print, stealth-taxing their fiat holding public, to service their own debt first. That is the only choice of default that governments take.

Collapse in fiat means Bitcoin, and gold, UP.

... the question with all this printing is where is the inflation?

It is in the cash assets of the top 1%. They held a lot of debt products that became worthless or went bad and then they got bailed out, in fact still are getting bailed out and then some. All those bad debts were monetised, i.e. swapped for fiat cash, net result being a huge misallocation of capital into incompetent hands, hyper-financialisation of the economy and an accelerating wealth disparity. Nothing at all to help economic performance, free market incentives, savings or productive enterprises.

When a little more than 10% of the top 1% lose confidence in their now huge fiat cash holdings it will be the end of the CONfidence game, the 'bank' run will be on.
full member
Activity: 154
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I think oil will be a good investment. I would wait for a bottom of $45 USD and then buy buy buy. The games that the west is playing with Russia is the root cause of this supposed 'glut'. Fact is there is no more of a glut now then when the price was at its high. Some serious money to be made off of crude.

Global economy is collapsing. After Oct. 2015, this will accelerate. There is an excess of supply in everything. Massive deflation on the way.

Yes. However governments will print enormous amounts of fiat to counteract that deflation, whatever it takes. Because they cannot allow their own sovereign debt  to increase in real terms or they will soon find 100% of tax revenue is needed for interest on their debt. They have shown time and again that they will print, stealth-taxing their fiat holding public, to service their own debt first. That is the only choice of default that governments take.

Collapse in fiat means Bitcoin, and gold, UP.

The States of the USA and the municipalities of Germany for example, by law can not print.

Europe is adopting a combination of austerity and monetary easing.

The plan is to confiscate all the pensions and savings to fund the socialism. This is massively deflationary.

Sorry the hyperinflation nonsense is so old. Haven't you guys caught up in your learning process by now? You are where I was at in 2006 in my understanding.

Gold and Bitcoin will go up because of a flight to private assets to escape confiscation, not because of monetary easing. But in the end game none of these will escape taxation. Maybe Gold will if you never sell it again for fiat, you can polish it daily for your ROI. Cash black markets will disappear because the new fiats will be all electronic. Electronic real-estate ownership databases will be created. The socialism will track down every asset.

There is no anonymity. The socialism is in control. Taxes will increase. Confiscation will increase. Down the abyss we go.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1006
100 satoshis -> ISO code
I think oil will be a good investment. I would wait for a bottom of $45 USD and then buy buy buy. The games that the west is playing with Russia is the root cause of this supposed 'glut'. Fact is there is no more of a glut now then when the price was at its high. Some serious money to be made off of crude.

Global economy is collapsing. After Oct. 2015, this will accelerate. There is an excess of supply in everything. Massive deflation on the way.

Yes. However governments will print enormous amounts of fiat to counteract that deflation, whatever it takes. Because they cannot allow their own sovereign debt  to increase in real terms or they will soon find 100% of tax revenue is needed for interest on their debt. They have shown time and again that they will print, stealth-taxing their fiat holding public, to service their own debt first. That is the only choice of default that governments take.

Collapse in fiat means Bitcoin, and gold, UP.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
I think oil will be a good investment. I would wait for a bottom of $45 USD and then buy buy buy. The games that the west is playing with Russia is the root cause of this supposed 'glut'. Fact is there is no more of a glut now then when the price was at its high. Some serious money to be made off of crude.

Global economy is collapsing. After Oct. 2015, this will accelerate. There is an excess of supply in everything. Massive deflation on the way.
legendary
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he who has the gold makes the rules
i would like comments and analysis, and of course you can tell me that i am a bag of horseshit, i won't take it personally  Grin

In your previous post you critique Bitcoin as a payment system and I wont contest that. I would go as far as saying that bitcoin is quite a shitty payment system. The lack of consumer protection is one thing, lack of speed another.

I've always seen the monetary aspect of Bitcoin as more important (it's the reason why I'm still here). The 2 aspects (payment system and money) are interdependant, of course. The one cannot flourish without the other.

The fact that we have (for the first time) an easily (cheaply) and globally transactable 'commodity' with a known supply has implications. If anything it puts pressure on central banks and governments. They have to fear not only people running to gold, but also to the more transparent and more convenient (that is: cheaper to store/transact) Bitcoin. It puts a lid on things so to say, draws a line.

Bitcoin is a threat to the current monetary system and the state (those two are intertwined). It's an option for the people. It gives them freedom. Freedom of choice, freedom of speech. It is extremely important in a free society for the people to be able to speak freely to one another and make financial transactions freely. We can't have the government ordering payment processors to stop processing payments to political opposition in a free society just as we can't have government censoring the communications between groups of people.

EDIT: jmw74 put it well:

Quote from: jmw74
Bitcoin's major contribution is competition. You will always be able to tell the authority "fuck off, I'll just use bitcoin"

Sure okay I agree with that, but doing that at scale is difficult.

btw anyone know any lawyers specializing in gaming/gambling?

also looking for a lawyer that specializes in setting up close ended investment funds in small european or Caribbean "nations" or islands.  we're (team of 3 - ex banker, techie, and me) interviewing a couple at the moment and really want to get the right fit.
legendary
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he who has the gold makes the rules
Risto is and will always be just a speculator. His other delusions are just that.

According to definition, "speculation" is an act of foreseeing that an asset has a greater EV than PV+carry cost.

Being "just" a speculator is a decent income if you are even a little successful.

I think oil will be a good investment. I would wait for a bottom of $45 USD and then buy buy buy. The games that the west is playing with Russia is the root cause of this supposed 'glut'. Fact is there is no more of a glut now then when the price was at its high. Some serious money to be made off of crude.


Depends on how much money we are talking about.  Do you have hundreds of millions sitting around?  If not there are better options.


Otherwise oil has about close to 0% probability of going to go up 10X or more in the next 12 months.

legendary
Activity: 1260
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Risto is and will always be just a speculator. His other delusions are just that.

According to definition, "speculation" is an act of foreseeing that an asset has a greater EV than PV+carry cost.

Being "just" a speculator is a decent income if you are even a little successful.

How's your little role-playing game goin' there, bro? Building infrastructure, are you? Being civil and carrying on as a community and such? Grin

legendary
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Risto is and will always be just a speculator. His other delusions are just that.

According to definition, "speculation" is an act of foreseeing that an asset has a greater EV than PV+carry cost.

Being "just" a speculator is a decent income if you are even a little successful.

I think oil will be a good investment. I would wait for a bottom of $45 USD and then buy buy buy. The games that the west is playing with Russia is the root cause of this supposed 'glut'. Fact is there is no more of a glut now then when the price was at its high. Some serious money to be made off of crude.
donator
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1036
Risto is and will always be just a speculator. His other delusions are just that.

According to definition, "speculation" is an act of foreseeing that an asset has a greater EV than PV+carry cost.

Being "just" a speculator is a decent income if you are even a little successful.
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