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HODL
Have to wait 3 years for $10k??
That would be a huge dissapointment...

I'm not buying it though
I think we're gonna have atleast 1 more big bubble until growth starts to slow down
$4 billion market cap is just too small for this market

No, that's the trend price.  The actual price fluctuates well above and below it.
It could go well above that well before the date.  Note that the date for $1k is Apr 2015 and price was already briefly above during late 2013, more than 1 year ahead of schedule.
legendary
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Have to wait 3 years for $10k??
That would be a huge dissapointment...

I'm not buying it though
I think we're gonna have atleast 1 more big bubble until growth starts to slow down
$4 billion market cap is just too small for this market
donator
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1036
I have made a non-linear regression of the historic Bitcoin prices:



More info here: Logarithmic (non-linear) regression - Bitcoin estimated value


+1. The highest R^2 for any reasonable trendline I've seen!
sr. member
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I have made a non-linear regression of the historic Bitcoin prices:



More info here: Logarithmic (non-linear) regression - Bitcoin estimated value
legendary
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Merit: 4078
Re XBT debate in Bitcoin discussion area.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9282189
It might be important to clear things up.

Gavin Andresen in his AMA stated that he prefers everybody switching to 100 satoshi units (which he and many people call bits).
full AMA:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9282189
about bits:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2jwx2q/gavin_andresen_i_think_everybody_should_switch_to/
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That proves you have no idea what is going on in the gold market right now.......

So you are very knowledgeable in precious metals ?
Fine.
Could you tell me if it is the right time to buy gold/silver or will it keep going down ?
Thanks.


Don't buy, wait on the sidelines to buy near 1,000... I only plan to take a nibble around there. I don't recommend buying through a ETF either, its not worth it
legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1259
That proves you have no idea what is going on in the gold market right now.......

So you are very knowledgeable in precious metals ?
Fine.
Could you tell me if it is the right time to buy gold/silver or will it keep going down ?
Thanks.


That made me laugh.  But on a serious note:

Up or down, it is the right time to start if you do not hold any.  SUCH similarity to btc!
legendary
Activity: 2142
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That proves you have no idea what is going on in the gold market right now.......

So you are very knowledgeable in precious metals ?
Fine.
Could you tell me if it is the right time to buy gold/silver or will it keep going down ?
Thanks.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
not a gazzilion! but very close...
legendary
Activity: 1105
Merit: 1000
Fewcoins is a gazillionaire, didn't you know that?  S/he merely likes to use the forum name of "fewcoins" to throw people off....  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Wink

lol, hello activity twin. The race is on (so slow, oh, so agonizingly slow)!
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
So wait you guys are trying to prove bitcoin is being manipulated as much as gold??? I don't think that's a selling point at all gold will probably near $1,000 soon, so btc to 100?  Cry

Personally i think bitcoin price action has gotten boring so it's trading like gold for the past few months is all.

Very true... I expect this to continue for a while!

So wait you guys are trying to prove bitcoin is being manipulated as much as gold??? I don't think that's a selling point at all gold will probably near $1,000 soon, so btc to 100?  Cry

Personally i think bitcoin price action has gotten boring so it's trading like gold for the past few months is all.

Gold will not hit $1000 any time soon

LMFAO! It will before it passes 1,300 again that's for sure


Gold is currently at 1,399...

Lmfao!! Thank you explorer, this is why you can't even have a decent conversation on this forum... people don't even bother to check the price on something before they claim they know the value or price on it! Im sure when he realizes how fast gold dropped from t he 1,399 he thought it was to the 1,230 it actually is he would be able to tell its going to 1,000 soon  Shocked

If anything is "for sure", it's that you have no real idea what future prices will be.

$1,300 is certainly far more likely than $1,000.

That proves you have no idea what is going on in the gold market right now.......

Well, since you clearly know better than the market, I expect you should be making lots of money in this particular case.

Fewcoins is a gazillionaire, didn't you know that?  S/he merely likes to use the forum name of "fewcoins" to throw people off....  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Wink
legendary
Activity: 1105
Merit: 1000
So wait you guys are trying to prove bitcoin is being manipulated as much as gold??? I don't think that's a selling point at all gold will probably near $1,000 soon, so btc to 100?  Cry

Personally i think bitcoin price action has gotten boring so it's trading like gold for the past few months is all.

Very true... I expect this to continue for a while!

So wait you guys are trying to prove bitcoin is being manipulated as much as gold??? I don't think that's a selling point at all gold will probably near $1,000 soon, so btc to 100?  Cry

Personally i think bitcoin price action has gotten boring so it's trading like gold for the past few months is all.

Gold will not hit $1000 any time soon

LMFAO! It will before it passes 1,300 again that's for sure


Gold is currently at 1,399...

Lmfao!! Thank you explorer, this is why you can't even have a decent conversation on this forum... people don't even bother to check the price on something before they claim they know the value or price on it! Im sure when he realizes how fast gold dropped from t he 1,399 he thought it was to the 1,230 it actually is he would be able to tell its going to 1,000 soon  Shocked

If anything is "for sure", it's that you have no real idea what future prices will be.

$1,300 is certainly far more likely than $1,000.

That proves you have no idea what is going on in the gold market right now.......

Well, since you clearly know better than the market, I expect you should be making lots of money in this particular case.
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 10832
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
So wait you guys are trying to prove bitcoin is being manipulated as much as gold??? I don't think that's a selling point at all gold will probably near $1,000 soon, so btc to 100?  Cry

Personally i think bitcoin price action has gotten boring so it's trading like gold for the past few months is all.

Very true... I expect this to continue for a while!

So wait you guys are trying to prove bitcoin is being manipulated as much as gold??? I don't think that's a selling point at all gold will probably near $1,000 soon, so btc to 100?  Cry

Personally i think bitcoin price action has gotten boring so it's trading like gold for the past few months is all.

Gold will not hit $1000 any time soon

LMFAO! It will before it passes 1,300 again that's for sure


Gold is currently at 1,399...

Lmfao!! Thank you explorer, this is why you can't even have a decent conversation on this forum... people don't even bother to check the price on something before they claim they know the value or price on it! Im sure when he realizes how fast gold dropped from t he 1,399 he thought it was to the 1,230 it actually is he would be able to tell its going to 1,000 soon  Shocked

If anything is "for sure", it's that you have no real idea what future prices will be.

$1,300 is certainly far more likely than $1,000.

That proves you have no idea what is going on in the gold market right now.......


That's why with any market we have people betting in both directions, and even the uninformed influence the market, especially if they invest large sums based on their uninformed view of the market.
full member
Activity: 126
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So wait you guys are trying to prove bitcoin is being manipulated as much as gold??? I don't think that's a selling point at all gold will probably near $1,000 soon, so btc to 100?  Cry

Personally i think bitcoin price action has gotten boring so it's trading like gold for the past few months is all.

Very true... I expect this to continue for a while!

So wait you guys are trying to prove bitcoin is being manipulated as much as gold??? I don't think that's a selling point at all gold will probably near $1,000 soon, so btc to 100?  Cry

Personally i think bitcoin price action has gotten boring so it's trading like gold for the past few months is all.

Gold will not hit $1000 any time soon

LMFAO! It will before it passes 1,300 again that's for sure


Gold is currently at 1,399...

Lmfao!! Thank you explorer, this is why you can't even have a decent conversation on this forum... people don't even bother to check the price on something before they claim they know the value or price on it! Im sure when he realizes how fast gold dropped from t he 1,399 he thought it was to the 1,230 it actually is he would be able to tell its going to 1,000 soon  Shocked

If anything is "for sure", it's that you have no real idea what future prices will be.

$1,300 is certainly far more likely than $1,000.

That proves you have no idea what is going on in the gold market right now.......
legendary
Activity: 1105
Merit: 1000
So wait you guys are trying to prove bitcoin is being manipulated as much as gold??? I don't think that's a selling point at all gold will probably near $1,000 soon, so btc to 100?  Cry

Personally i think bitcoin price action has gotten boring so it's trading like gold for the past few months is all.

Very true... I expect this to continue for a while!

So wait you guys are trying to prove bitcoin is being manipulated as much as gold??? I don't think that's a selling point at all gold will probably near $1,000 soon, so btc to 100?  Cry

Personally i think bitcoin price action has gotten boring so it's trading like gold for the past few months is all.

Gold will not hit $1000 any time soon

LMFAO! It will before it passes 1,300 again that's for sure


Gold is currently at 1,399...

Lmfao!! Thank you explorer, this is why you can't even have a decent conversation on this forum... people don't even bother to check the price on something before they claim they know the value or price on it! Im sure when he realizes how fast gold dropped from t he 1,399 he thought it was to the 1,230 it actually is he would be able to tell its going to 1,000 soon  Shocked

If anything is "for sure", it's that you have no real idea what future prices will be.

$1,300 is certainly far more likely than $1,000.
full member
Activity: 164
Merit: 100
When people realize that much of their gold portfolio is tungsten, fractional reserve, or stolen, then they will see that Bitcoin is 100% verifiably genuine.

and how would they find out? and if so when? I don't see why gold can't be indefinitely detached from it's 'real value' as long as 1) it has some centrally decided spot price 2) most of the people holding gold only hold paper gold (a promise of future gold) not immediate delivery. And I don't see either of these things changing.
hero member
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Ok, enough fun with gold https://www.tradingview.com/e/A9moXR92/

My theory remains that bitcoins trading price, that is, the general direction, up or down has been similar to gold since July and a chart showing good correlation since at least July of this year is linked above.

Watching general markets these past 30 days or so I've started going back to some extreme bearish chart projections I realized that Bitcoin technology might basically reinvent the equity markets allowing those that make the shift to transition away from the destruction that's about to occur.

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Uber-bearish targets on the stock market: Jaws of Death scenario and its positive effect on Blockchain Technologies.
Gordon Long and John Rubino's Phase Shift article at Safehaven.com got me wondering about a bear market (Jaws of Death Level Bear market) effect on the blockchain.

This is simply a thought exercise on how the DOW and SP500 could basically vanish, never to return.

Longwavegroup's PDF from 2012 incorporates charts from McHugh and Prechter: http://www.longwavegroup.com/publications/ians_investment_insights/2012/_pdf/121105_Ians_Investment_Insights.pdf

Some of the downside targets are extreme, including one projecting a 97% drop from wherever price tops.

The following series of 'what-ifs' is my attempt to connect the dots on how a 97% drop in Indexes such as the DOW and SP500 could occur _without_ the world falling totally apart.

What if the number of IPO's declines as companies learn that programs like Swarm, Koinify and Lighthouse become the more favorable model of funding new ventures?

What if Overstock successfully moves off the traditional exchange in favor of a newly created blockchain equity model?

What if, as companies remaining on the traditional exchanges go out of business there is nothing to replace them, as all new companies choose the blockchain equity model over the Wall Street model?

These three things - the number of traditional IPO's dropping due to new funding models, existing companies moving to a new equity platform, companies naturally reaching end of life not being replaced in the index. That is how I see the possibility of markets such as the DOW dropping to between 400-1000 without the world falling apart.

http://ponziunit.blogspot.com/2014/10/uber-bearish-targets-on-stock-market.html
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 4078
Coinbase co-founders AMA...quite interesting
1. their take on price in 12 mo: $1500-4000
2. fees will go down from 1%...I think to ~0.5%, which would make roundtrip ~1%, which is much more enticing for trading.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3OWzZSr8Nc

I found their predictions and reasoning bullish. They seem in no doubt the bitcoin userbase is growing. Given they also debunk the myth of merchants dropping the price it seems it is just a matter of time before the price is speculated higher again.

One point of caution was last year they predicted 10k per coin Wink

Last time over shoot.  This time undershoot.  Next time, they might get it right.  Finding your range on a moving target is never easy  Wink

I have no problem with a notion that BTC would be stable for a while. It is that grinding down from 600-650 to ~$300 that was jarring, especially if you made an investment in miners or BTC. Overall, I don't mind to get monetary rewards slower that almost everyone expected. I would be upset if bitcoin zero out at some point, but even that would not be the EOTW.
legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1259
Coinbase co-founders AMA...quite interesting
1. their take on price in 12 mo: $1500-4000
2. fees will go down from 1%...I think to ~0.5%, which would make roundtrip ~1%, which is much more enticing for trading.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3OWzZSr8Nc

I found their predictions and reasoning bullish. They seem in no doubt the bitcoin userbase is growing. Given they also debunk the myth of merchants dropping the price it seems it is just a matter of time before the price is speculated higher again.

One point of caution was last year they predicted 10k per coin Wink

Last time over shoot.  This time undershoot.  Next time, they might get it right.  Finding your range on a moving target is never easy  Wink
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1000
Coinbase co-founders AMA...quite interesting
1. their take on price in 12 mo: $1500-4000
2. fees will go down from 1%...I think to ~0.5%, which would make roundtrip ~1%, which is much more enticing for trading.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3OWzZSr8Nc

I found their predictions and reasoning bullish. They seem in no doubt the bitcoin userbase is growing. Given they also debunk the myth of merchants dropping the price it seems it is just a matter of time before the price is speculated higher again.

One point of caution was last year they predicted 10k per coin Wink
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