The only REAL thing that the US has that is strong is its propaganda machine. And, you fell for it, though I don't blame you. It takes a little REAL investigation to find out the truth.
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^^^ That's old, outdated info. Russia has increased its military and tank output many times over. Much of the increase includes new technology. The sanctions have backfired, and are causing Russia to make all kinds of treaties with many nations around the world, all of which want to free themselves from US domination.
The only REAL thing that the US has that is strong is its propaganda machine. And, you fell for it, though I don't blame you. It takes a little REAL investigation to find out the truth.
The only REAL thing that the US has that is strong is its propaganda machine. And, you fell for it, though I don't blame you. It takes a little REAL investigation to find out the truth.
^^^ Well, Ukraine has one up on Russia here. Ukraine won't be losing many more tanks, mostly because they are just about all gone already. The few that are left are being 'saved' for a time and place where they can attack without losing any more... whenever and wherever that might be.
Please, provide any evidence of what you have said (my guess is you are just FOMOing as usual, no need to prove even to the lowest level) - try to make it credible, because according to Ruzzian sources, equipment has been destroyed even when it has not even been sent to Ukraine.
At the moment, there is a good chunk of armoured troops in Ukraine that have not been committed. The loses on the Ruzzian side are o gigantic proportions, particularly in the artillery duels. The drones and counter battery radars sent to Ukraine are doing a dam good job. You can check to the institute of war statistics, halve them just to make sure, and still it comes out that at this rate Ruzzia will simply not have any decent equipment if the war last another year.
I usually post other websites that say what I am explaining. Simply check through my posts here >>> https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/badecker-149737 over the last couple of months, and you will find several websites and US officials who back this up.
The US government is the king of media propaganda exploitation, and they have taught Ukraine officials very well. It's like they think that winning a war is based primarily on how many people believe the war has been won.
The thing that you are missing is that both the dead and the winners are winners. The winners won the war. The dead have won peace, and such peace is coming for Ukraine.
Ok I'll provide the proof.
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-ukrainian.html
This report is from July:
Ukraine Has Caught Up With Russia’s Tank Numbers, Data Signal
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-05/shift-in-balance-of-arms-in-ukraine-underscored-by-fresh-data
cliffs:
Russia started the war with about 3400 tanks in service. Ukraine had 947.
RU destroyed or captured at least 649 UA tanks.
UA destroyed or captured at least 2,313 Russian tanks.
RU brought many tanks out of storage, but they are pretty crappy tanks, many without upgrade with technology from 50-80 years ago. Before the war they were able to produce a max 200 tanks a year. Now it's less because of sanctions.
UA has received about 700 of the most advanced tanks from western allies with hundreds more promised. They just finished training on American abrahms tanks so those should be in action soon.
Overall, UA clearly has more tanks than they started with, and their total in action is about the same as Russia, around 1200-1500.
cliffs of the cliffs:
BADecker is wrong as usual.
Last night Ukraine made serious attacks against Black Sea fleet in Crimea. And this time not some drones but Storm Shadow missiles were used. Result of it - several warships were completely destroyed or at least damaged. In other words, they followed famous direction where Moskva warship went.
https://t.me/Crimeanwind/42121
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-missiles-strike-russia-black-sea-fleet-crimea-sevastopol-moscow-says/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/13/ukrainian-missiles-strike-russias-black-sea-fleet-in-crimea
It looks that landing ship Minsk and Submarine Rostov on Don were destroyed. And it's first Russian submarine that was destroyed since WWII. There was Kursk submarine, but Russians managed to destroy it themselves.
https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1701973482731384925
https://t.me/Crimeanwind/42121
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-missiles-strike-russia-black-sea-fleet-crimea-sevastopol-moscow-says/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/13/ukrainian-missiles-strike-russias-black-sea-fleet-in-crimea
It looks that landing ship Minsk and Submarine Rostov on Don were destroyed. And it's first Russian submarine that was destroyed since WWII. There was Kursk submarine, but Russians managed to destroy it themselves.
https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1701973482731384925
Yep, to be precise the "Rostov on don" submarine and a landing ship. This video is pro-Ukranian, but has some public domain pictures showing extensive damage. My take, this is the consequence of Ruzzia attacks towards objectives along the danube river and the breaking of the grain deal (these two ships were not strategical for the war in my view, but they were very expensive, as the planes hit near Lithuania and as many installations that are mysteriously catching fire in Ruzzia everyday.
If you remember, at the beginning of the war, Ruzzia started hitting cities and civilian infrastructure. It seems that now Ruzzia is getting some of its own medicine back in terms of costs and high-value target destruction.
https://youtu.be/Blrj1ZNkmuY?t=203
Also, I have the feeling that the previous attack on a radar system by special troops has a lot to do with these successful attacks by Ukraine.
Last night Ukraine made serious attacks against Black Sea fleet in Crimea. And this time not some drones but Storm Shadow missiles were used. Result of it - several warships were completely destroyed or at least damaged. In other words, they followed famous direction where Moskva warship went.
https://t.me/Crimeanwind/42121
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-missiles-strike-russia-black-sea-fleet-crimea-sevastopol-moscow-says/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/13/ukrainian-missiles-strike-russias-black-sea-fleet-in-crimea
It looks that landing ship Minsk and Submarine Rostov on Don were destroyed. And it's first Russian submarine that was destroyed since WWII. There was Kursk submarine, but Russians managed to destroy it themselves.
https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1701973482731384925
https://t.me/Crimeanwind/42121
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-missiles-strike-russia-black-sea-fleet-crimea-sevastopol-moscow-says/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/13/ukrainian-missiles-strike-russias-black-sea-fleet-in-crimea
It looks that landing ship Minsk and Submarine Rostov on Don were destroyed. And it's first Russian submarine that was destroyed since WWII. There was Kursk submarine, but Russians managed to destroy it themselves.
https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1701973482731384925
^^^ Well, Ukraine has one up on Russia here. Ukraine won't be losing many more tanks, mostly because they are just about all gone already. The few that are left are being 'saved' for a time and place where they can attack without losing any more... whenever and wherever that might be.
Please, provide any evidence of what you have said (my guess is you are just FOMOing as usual, no need to prove even to the lowest level) - try to make it credible, because according to Ruzzian sources, equipment has been destroyed even when it has not even been sent to Ukraine.
At the moment, there is a good chunk of armoured troops in Ukraine that have not been committed. The loses on the Ruzzian side are o gigantic proportions, particularly in the artillery duels. The drones and counter battery radars sent to Ukraine are doing a dam good job. You can check to the institute of war statistics, halve them just to make sure, and still it comes out that at this rate Ruzzia will simply not have any decent equipment if the war last another year.
I usually post other websites that say what I am explaining. Simply check through my posts here >>> .... over the last couple of months, and you will find several websites and US officials who back this up.
The US government is the king of media propaganda exploitation, and they have taught Ukraine officials very well. It's like they think that winning a war is based primarily on how many people believe the war has been won.
The thing that you are missing is that both the dead and the winners are winners. The winners won the war. The dead have won peace, and such peace is coming for Ukraine.
Sorry for not following your click-baits. If you have specific evidence of your assertion above, simple link that one and quote it. I am not here to generate traffic, links or clicks to the sites you usually
The training provided by the US to Ukraine has been average at best. The NATO officers base their weapons in well trained troops, good communications, good low rank officers and combined arms warfare and have not yet fought any war with drones to the scale being used.
Ukraine is doing a very good job at learning, adapting and doing quite well without any aviation, combined arms as such and in an scenario that has nothing to do with the California deserts.
^^^ Well, Ukraine has one up on Russia here. Ukraine won't be losing many more tanks, mostly because they are just about all gone already. The few that are left are being 'saved' for a time and place where they can attack without losing any more... whenever and wherever that might be.
Please, provide any evidence of what you have said (my guess is you are just FOMOing as usual, no need to prove even to the lowest level) - try to make it credible, because according to Ruzzian sources, equipment has been destroyed even when it has not even been sent to Ukraine.
At the moment, there is a good chunk of armoured troops in Ukraine that have not been committed. The loses on the Ruzzian side are o gigantic proportions, particularly in the artillery duels. The drones and counter battery radars sent to Ukraine are doing a dam good job. You can check to the institute of war statistics, halve them just to make sure, and still it comes out that at this rate Ruzzia will simply not have any decent equipment if the war last another year.
I usually post other websites that say what I am explaining. Simply check through my posts here >>> https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/badecker-149737 over the last couple of months, and you will find several websites and US officials who back this up.
The US government is the king of media propaganda exploitation, and they have taught Ukraine officials very well. It's like they think that winning a war is based primarily on how many people believe the war has been won.
The thing that you are missing is that both the dead and the winners are winners. The winners won the war. The dead have won peace, and such peace is coming for Ukraine.
^^^ Well, Ukraine has one up on Russia here. Ukraine won't be losing many more tanks, mostly because they are just about all gone already. The few that are left are being 'saved' for a time and place where they can attack without losing any more... whenever and wherever that might be.
Please, provide any evidence of what you have said (my guess is you are just FOMOing as usual, no need to prove even to the lowest level) - try to make it credible, because according to Ruzzian sources, equipment has been destroyed even when it has not even been sent to Ukraine.
At the moment, there is a good chunk of armoured troops in Ukraine that have not been committed. The loses on the Ruzzian side are o gigantic proportions, particularly in the artillery duels. The drones and counter battery radars sent to Ukraine are doing a dam good job. You can check to the institute of war statistics, halve them just to make sure, and still it comes out that at this rate Ruzzia will simply not have any decent equipment if the war last another year.
^^^ Well, Ukraine has one up on Russia here. Ukraine won't be losing many more tanks, mostly because they are just about all gone already. The few that are left are being 'saved' for a time and place where they can attack without losing any more... whenever and wherever that might be.
Another Russian tank turn to scrap by drones. Those guys must be having a heart attack every time they hear rotors buzzing nearby.
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/21500
When it comes to talking about losses, it's a war, in reality, both sides are losing. The interesting part is that a much bigger and stronger country is unable to win, pretty much like Soviets in Afghanistan, or Americans in Vietnam.
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Three $500 FPV drones damaged a modernized T-90A valued around $4.5 million near Bakhmut.
Fighters from the 3rd Assault Brigade's "Wings" and "ASGARD" units shot this video to show you how it’s done.
Fighters from the 3rd Assault Brigade's "Wings" and "ASGARD" units shot this video to show you how it’s done.
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/21500
When it comes to talking about losses, it's a war, in reality, both sides are losing. The interesting part is that a much bigger and stronger country is unable to win, pretty much like Soviets in Afghanistan, or Americans in Vietnam.
Actually, Ukraine has managed to hit recently one of those super-expensive electronic warfare vehicles. Those are as expensive as 50 tanks and burn perfectly well. These are a very expensive barbecue.
"Not the moment for diplomacy" - Zelensky is very clear on his belief that there is much more to be done and that there are still very good chances of a substantial break of the Ruzzian defences. Along with this he declared that he does not believe that "Trump will not support Ukraine", that is, if he can even become a candidate.
(source: interview for The Economist).
"We lost a lot of people. No happy end." - also Zelensky yesterday about the Ukrainian counter-offensive. (source: interview for The Economist).
(source: interview for CNN).
Of course Ukraine has lost many people, and no matter how victorious they will be, it will be always sad. BTW, Zelensky speaks of not wanting to think about a long war, but having to think about a long war because that is what is going to happen. Keep up your good humour, you may need it.
Another Russian tank turn to scrap by drones. Those guys must be having a heart attack every time they hear rotors buzzing nearby.
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/21500
When it comes to talking about losses, it's a war, in reality both sides are losing. The interesting part is that a much bigger and stronger country is unable to win, pretty much like Soviets in Afghanistan, or Americans in Vietnam.
Quote
Three $500 FPV drones damaged a modernized T-90A valued around $4.5 million near Bakhmut.
Fighters from the 3rd Assault Brigade's "Wings" and "ASGARD" units shot this video to show you how it’s done.
Fighters from the 3rd Assault Brigade's "Wings" and "ASGARD" units shot this video to show you how it’s done.
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/21500
When it comes to talking about losses, it's a war, in reality both sides are losing. The interesting part is that a much bigger and stronger country is unable to win, pretty much like Soviets in Afghanistan, or Americans in Vietnam.
"Not the moment for diplomacy" - Zelensky is very clear on his belief that there is much more to be done and that there are still very good chances of a substantial break of the Ruzzian defences. Along with this he declared that he does not believe that "Trump will not support Ukraine", that is, if he can even become a candidate.
(source: interview for The Economist).
"We lost a lot of people. No happy end." - also Zelensky yesterday about the Ukrainian counter-offensive. (source: interview for The Economist).
(source: interview for CNN).
"Not the moment for diplomacy" - Zelensky is very clear on his belief that there is much more to be done and that there are still very good chances of a substantial break of the Ruzzian defences. Along with this he declared that he does not believe that "Trump will not support Ukraine", that is, if he can even become a candidate.
(source: interview for The Economist).
(source: interview for The Economist).
Whatever Musk's goals were, they worked out well for Russia at that time. The evil USDollar banking system needs more decisions like this to keep them from taking over the world. The more money they can create for Ukraine, the more devalued the USD will become... and the sooner it will collapse. It's unfortunate that some of the people of the USA will be hurt, but once it is over, the USA will become stronger than ever.
Elon Musk 'committed evil' with Starlink order, says Ukrainian official
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Elon Musk 'committed evil' with Starlink order, says Ukrainian official
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So, Musk potentially had good reason to disallow Ukraine from using Starlink... for sure at that time. I wonder if Russia has applied to Musk for usage.
What Happened With Elon, Starlink and Ukraine Was an Unreasonable Request
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2023/09/what-happened-with-elon-starlink-and-ukraine-was-an-unreasonable-request.html
Elon and SpaceX have provided 20,000 Starlink terminals which were vital for sustaining Ukraine's economy and critical communication in the company.
Lauren Dreyer, SpaceX's director of Starlink operations, began sending Musk updates twice a day. "Starlink kits are already allowing Ukraine Armed Forces to continue operating theater command centers," she wrote on March 1. "These kits can be life or death, as the opponent is now focusing heavily on comms infrastructure. They are asking for more." In February and March of 2022 there were about 2500 Starlink units sent to Ukraine.
Unlike every other satellite service, they were able to find ways to defeat Russian jamming. By March 6, the company was providing voice connections for a Ukrainian special operations brigade. Starlink kits were also used to connect the Ukrainian military to the U.S. Joint Special Operations Command and to get Ukrainian television broadcasts back up. Within days, 6,000 more terminals and dishes were shipped, and by July there were 15,000 Starlink terminals operating in Ukraine.
Elon indicated that Ukraine had an emergency request to activate Starlink in Sevastopol.
Sevastopol is the largest city in Crimea and a major port on the Black Sea. Due to its strategic location and the navigability of the city's harbors, Sevastopol has been an important port and naval base throughout its history. Since the city's founding in 1783 it has been a major base for Russia's Black Sea Fleet.
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They must have run low on the supply of whatever mind control drugs NATO is feeding these poor fuckers:
Russian Paratroopers Thought They Were Capturing Only 2 Ukrops - But the Whole Village Crawled Out
https://www.bitchute.com/video/tSOdqufcwFza/
Or it was staged, which wouldn't be that difficult to do. Who knows?
Whatever Musk's goals were, they worked out well for Russia at that time. The evil USDollar banking system needs more decisions like this to keep them from taking over the world. The more money they can create for Ukraine, the more devalued the USD will become... and the sooner it will collapse. It's unfortunate that some of the people of the USA will be hurt, but once it is over, the USA will become stronger than ever.
Elon Musk 'committed evil' with Starlink order, says Ukrainian official
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/08/elon-musk-committed-evil-starlink-order-ukraine
A senior Ukrainian official has accused Elon Musk of "committing evil" after a new biography revealed details about how the business magnate ordered his Starlink satellite communications network to be turned off near the Crimean coast last year to hobble a Ukrainian drone attack on Russian warships.
In a statement on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter, which Musk owns, the Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak wrote that Musk's interference led to the deaths of civilians, calling them "the price of a cocktail of ignorance and big ego".
"By not allowing Ukrainian drones to destroy part of the Russian fleet via Starlink interference, @elonmusk allowed this fleet to fire Kalibr missiles at Ukrainian cities. As a result, civilians, and children are being killed," Podolyak wrote.
"Why do some people so desperately want to defend war criminals and their desire to commit murder? And do they now realise that they are committing evil and encouraging evil?"
Musk defended his decision, saying he did not want his SpaceX company to be "explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation".
CNN on Thursday quoted an excerpt from the biography Elon Musk by Walter Isaacson, which described how armed submarine drones were approaching a Russian fleet near the Crimean coast when they "lost connectivity and washed ashore harmlessly".
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Elon Musk 'committed evil' with Starlink order, says Ukrainian official
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/08/elon-musk-committed-evil-starlink-order-ukraine
A senior Ukrainian official has accused Elon Musk of "committing evil" after a new biography revealed details about how the business magnate ordered his Starlink satellite communications network to be turned off near the Crimean coast last year to hobble a Ukrainian drone attack on Russian warships.
In a statement on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter, which Musk owns, the Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak wrote that Musk's interference led to the deaths of civilians, calling them "the price of a cocktail of ignorance and big ego".
"By not allowing Ukrainian drones to destroy part of the Russian fleet via Starlink interference, @elonmusk allowed this fleet to fire Kalibr missiles at Ukrainian cities. As a result, civilians, and children are being killed," Podolyak wrote.
"Why do some people so desperately want to defend war criminals and their desire to commit murder? And do they now realise that they are committing evil and encouraging evil?"
Musk defended his decision, saying he did not want his SpaceX company to be "explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation".
CNN on Thursday quoted an excerpt from the biography Elon Musk by Walter Isaacson, which described how armed submarine drones were approaching a Russian fleet near the Crimean coast when they "lost connectivity and washed ashore harmlessly".
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Musk's grandfather was the head guy of the 'Technocracy' movement in Canada. He got run out of the country and went to South Africa. Technocracy, Inc was a political movement of some note almost 100 years ago, but they sort of went underground. They drew a lot of inspiration from the Italian Fascist party and it caused some suspicions and unwanted attention after WW-II was done.
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What I find most difficult is to believe that someone can actually manage to get expelled from Canada - that would be something to be seen.
You don't have to believe it because its not true. Literally everything he said is incorrect.
- Musk's grandfather was not "the head guy" of the movement.
- He didn't get run out of the country.
- Fascism didn't start in Italy until 3 years after the birth of the Technocracy movement.
That sounds a bit more credible. Anyway, I think we can go back to Ukraine and figure out how long can the Ruzzian front actually hold without committing the elite reserves and risk a meat-grinding defeat that could re-shape this war. There are some sources that tend to get it right that say that Ruzzian troops have insufficient artillery support, the supposedly fortified positions are not really that much of a show stopper... The Surovinkin line has been broken and it did not take any more effort than usual.
Could it be that Ruzzia defence is, again, no deeper than 10 cliks?
Musk's grandfather was the head guy of the 'Technocracy' movement in Canada. He got run out of the country and went to South Africa. Technocracy, Inc was a political movement of some note almost 100 years ago, but they sort of went underground. They drew a lot of inspiration from the Italian Fascist party and it caused some suspicions and unwanted attention after WW-II was done.
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What I find most difficult is to believe that someone can actually manage to get expelled from Canada - that would be something to be seen.
You don't have to believe it because its not true. Literally everything he said is incorrect.
- Musk's grandfather was not "the head guy" of the movement.
- He didn't get run out of the country.
- Fascism didn't start in Italy until 3 years after the birth of the Technocracy movement.
Musk's grandfather was the head guy of the 'Technocracy' movement in Canada. He got run out of the country and went to South Africa. Technocracy, Inc was a political movement of some note almost 100 years ago, but they sort of went underground. They drew a lot of inspiration from the Italian Fascist party and it caused some suspicions and unwanted attention after WW-II was done.
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What I find most difficult is to believe that someone can actually manage to get expelled from Canada - that would be something to be seen.
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Here's an interesting vid by Technocracy, Inc from 1947. Notable that Canada had them turn off their radios as a condition of entry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUregwsi_cw
The stated goal of the Technocrats was to form a 'North American Technate' replacing the existing democratic governments. It's not surprising that there were some suspicious about them, and again, emulating the Italian Fascists likely only fueled this.
Ultimately, and seemingly not long after this rally, it seems that a (very logical) decision to just go underground and work on the project through industrial and academic channels was adopted. Now it's popping out with inspiring slogans such as "You will own nothing and be happy."
What I find most difficult is to believe that someone can actually manage to get expelled from Canada - that would be something to be seen.
Anyway back on-topic, in the last 24 hours, Ruzzia has lost an inordinate amount of warfare material. Even if you do not believe the exact figures, it is an indication of how quickly Ruzzia is self-demilitarising quite effectively. If this continues, it may be possible to have a couple of decades free of Ruzzian wrongdoing around Europe - even may loose the ability to intervene in other regions.
Just some info points to: 624 soldiers, 23 tanks, 23 BMP and 31 artillery systems. I have even seen a video of an expensive HIMARS being used to take a quite WW II howitzer - not your typical high value target.
Meanwhile, Russian SSO work behind enemy lines:
https://t.me/intelslava/51062
I think you have opened a can of worms...
Large fire breaks out on Moscow industrial site
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/d_XPn8NNuSg
Fire breaks out at Russian defence ministry
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_iOrM1dFhAU
Moment second drone hits tower block in Moscow
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QBhGg-uU7qw
Moscow battles large fire after overnight drone attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14tDIqxgMno
The building of the Federal Customs Service is on fire in Moscow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkF_bqmVm5c
I guess attacking your neighbour is not such a profitable business. It also seems that Ukraine has create an special section to deal with traitors an those who have ordered the worst crimes.
https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/09/05/inside-ukraines-assassination-programme
It is behind a paywall, but summing up: if you do bad stuff against Ukraine, you have to watch your back for the rest of your (short?) life. And this includes civil and military.
What I find most difficult is to believe that someone can actually manage to get expelled from Canada - that would be something to be seen.
Anyway back on-topic, in the last 24 hours, Ruzzia has lost an inordinate amount of warfare material. Even if you do not believe the exact figures, it is an indication of how quickly Ruzzia is self-demilitarising quite effectively. If this continues, it may be possible to have a couple of decades free of Ruzzian wrongdoing around Europe - even may loose the ability to intervene in other regions.
Just some info points to: 624 soldiers, 23 tanks, 23 BMP and 31 artillery systems. I have even seen a video of an expensive HIMARS being used to take a quite WW II howitzer - not your typical high value target.
Meanwhile, Russian SSO work behind enemy lines:
https://t.me/intelslava/51062
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