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September 03, 2023, 07:45:14 PM
What happened?

Nazis got unexpected help from USA and UK?
Our Ukrainian friend prefers not to remember that in April 2022, negotiations between Ukraine and Russia were already at the final stage, until Boris Johnson flew from London to Kiev on an unannounced urgent visit and ordered Zelensky to curtail negotiations and fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.

Nope, I do recall the UK supporting Ukraine in whatever Ukraine would decide. The UK cannot force Ukraine into a war simply because there is not leverage to do so even in the case that this would be in UKs interest.

Ukraine is not fighting anything like a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian", they are fighting a war that is clearly possible to win to the point in which Ruzzia will think twice before trying another land-grabbing in a few years. Next time, whoever is in power will know what is the cost of attacking the neighbour and very particularly, how trustable are their sources of information when they told the old Putler dude that Ukraine would not resist and that Europe would not respond (that was an epic blunder).

Of course it's not a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian." They're volunteering for the benefit of the necessity of depopulation, because out of love they know that the whole world is suffering from over-population. Lol.

I don't think that Biden will be able to force a draft on Americans. And the Nato countries don't like the idea at all. This means that outside of a few strays that go to fight for Ukraine, all Russia has to do is keep on killing Ukraine soldiers. The problem for Russia is, when all the Ukrainians are dead, there won't be anybody left to surrender.

Consider Dresden in Germany in WW2. They thought they were safe, being rather far from Berlin, and near the Czechoslovakian border. But they got bombed right off the map, and now Czechoslovakia is even gone.

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September 03, 2023, 03:02:53 PM
What happened?

Nazis got unexpected help from USA and UK?
Our Ukrainian friend prefers not to remember that in April 2022, negotiations between Ukraine and Russia were already at the final stage, until Boris Johnson flew from London to Kiev on an unannounced urgent visit and ordered Zelensky to curtail negotiations and fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.

Nope, I do recall the UK supporting Ukraine in whatever Ukraine would decide. The UK cannot force Ukraine into a war simply because there is not leverage to do so even in the case that this would be in UKs interest.

Ukraine is not fighting anything like a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian", they are fighting a war that is clearly possible to win to the point in which Ruzzia will think twice before trying another land-grabbing in a few years. Next time, whoever is in power will know what is the cost of attacking the neighbour and very particularly, how trustable are their sources of information when they told the old Putler dude that Ukraine would not resist and that Europe would not respond (that was an epic blunder).
legendary
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September 03, 2023, 12:09:56 PM
What happened?

Nazis got unexpected help from USA and UK?
Our Ukrainian friend prefers not to remember that in April 2022, negotiations between Ukraine and Russia were already at the final stage, until Boris Johnson flew from London to Kiev on an unannounced urgent visit and ordered Zelensky to curtail negotiations and fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.

Probably the depopulation people are getting rid of the smartest part of the Ukrainian population. But like Hitler got rid of the smart Poles in WW2, they have come back with an intellectual vengeance lately. Do you think it will be the same for the Ukrainians in the future?


America's Domestic Party Politics Fuel the Ukraine Catastrophe



https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/09/phil-giraldi/americas-domestic-party-politics-fuel-the-ukraine-catastrophe/
I am surely not the only one who has noticed that the defensive propaganda lines that are flowing out the Democratic Administration have become more than ordinarily ridiculous of late. One is astonished at the melding of fact and fiction to create narratives that depict the White House and all that pertains to it as forging a new and more wonderful country. Wasn't "Build Back Better" the battle cry, whatever that is supposed to mean? And the spin is endless, even when a clueless Joe Biden belatedly winds up in Maui to relate to the tragedy in which at least 1,000 died, only to be greeted by surviving local residents saluting the president with their middle fingers upraised.

As the president looked out over the destruction of an entire city by fire he reminisced by recalling his long ago "almost" encounter with a fire in his kitchen. Locals who were screaming for help from government were, in fact, getting almost nothing while the nation's Chief Executive was in the Oval Office gloating over sending another $23 billion to the arch crook Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, money to fight a war that Biden encouraged and has blithely entered into.
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September 03, 2023, 01:52:54 AM
What happened?

Nazis got unexpected help from USA and UK?
Our Ukrainian friend prefers not to remember that in April 2022, negotiations between Ukraine and Russia were already at the final stage, until Boris Johnson flew from London to Kiev on an unannounced urgent visit and ordered Zelensky to curtail negotiations and fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.
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September 03, 2023, 12:54:01 AM
What happened?

Nazis got unexpected help from USA and UK?
legendary
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September 03, 2023, 12:09:24 AM

Me, the Ukrainian military, and the one area that the Ukrainians seem to be still trying to attack into:  You know, the area with suspiciously weak defenses leading to Tokmak.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l7-V5RSqZs&t=84s



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September 02, 2023, 02:38:52 PM
This is a very peculiar attack, firstly because it occurs far from the front, second because it has to be done from either inside Ruzzia or from the nearby border (I cannot discard that operatives could use NATO territory to launch the attack to be honest).

However, what I find more interesting is the target, the ILUs - just the transport version. I can only guess that is an economic hit of around $50 million per unit for a total of 200 million using low-tech drones?. Ruzzia has around 100 of these, it is not really scarce, but may be difficult to replace under sanctions.
Yeah, Russia have over 100 such planes. But I read that they're capable to produce just few such planes per year, so such loses just in one attack is painful. Offcourse, it would be more fun if it would be some fighter jets damaged, but still, it's more effective than hitting some ''Moscow City'' skyscrappers Smiley. And most important thing that this attack shows that Ukraine is capable to reach targets which are very far away from front line, so, Russians can't feel safe there.
Oleksiy Danilov said that with development of their long range missiles and drones, hitting targets even at 1500 km distance is no longer a problem.
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September 01, 2023, 07:44:01 PM
We have gone through that argument many times: A vote without free international observers, under recent military occupation, with testimonies of people being "persuaded" with little green men with guns is a joke. I do get that you may have a cynic vision of people's choice, my guess is that nobody ever asked you what would you like to do with your government and if they ever did you would probably pee your pants.
Already next year, Zelensky will have to show the whole world how to properly conduct free democratic elections in wartime. Grin
Wartime?
You mean it's not just a special military operation anymore?

Ukrainians will be fighting Russian aggressors to death.
Well, that means they'll die.

Yes, Captain Obvious, aggressors will die. That's the whole point.
In Kyiv on May 9 2022, a traditional parade will be held in honor of the victory of the USSR over Nazi Germany. It is naive and foolish to doubt it.

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legendary
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September 01, 2023, 07:01:34 PM
And now there is big drone attack onnPskov airport, there is reports about 4 damaged Il-76 transport planes
https://t.me/shot_shot/56299
Interesting part that Pskov isn't somehwere close to Ukraine, but nearby to Russian border with Latvia and Estonia.

Z-tards noticed that and started making shit up about NATO attacking them:

However, there is a nuance - the Baltic countries are much closer. And these countries are part of NATO. Have you really decided to be so bold?

Can't wait for our resident kremlinists to parse that one out.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-military-repelling-drone-attack-pskov-four-planes-damaged-officials-2023-08-29/

This is a very peculiar attack, firstly because it occurs far from the front, second because it has to be done from either inside Ruzzia or from the nearby border (I cannot discard that operatives could use NATO territory to launch the attack to be honest).

However, what I find more interesting is the target, the ILUs - just the transport version. I can only guess that is an economic hit of around $50 million per unit for a total of 200 million using low-tech drones?. Ruzzia has around 100 of these, it is not really scarce, but may be difficult to replace under sanctions.

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  Glorious merciful leader Putin gives the Ukrainian men a way out: Surrender
  https://www.bitchute.com/video/UVXeQL5OdVPc/

Lol!
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And now there is big drone attack onnPskov airport, there is reports about 4 damaged Il-76 transport planes
https://t.me/shot_shot/56299
Interesting part that Pskov isn't somehwere close to Ukraine, but nearby to Russian border with Latvia and Estonia.

Z-tards noticed that and started making shit up about NATO attacking them:

However, there is a nuance - the Baltic countries are much closer. And these countries are part of NATO. Have you really decided to be so bold?

Can't wait for our resident kremlinists to parse that one out.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-military-repelling-drone-attack-pskov-four-planes-damaged-officials-2023-08-29/
legendary
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Slava Ukraini!
Today, someone smoke in the wrong place in Murmansk according to some yet unconfirmed news.
And now there is big drone attack onnPskov airport, there is reports about 4 damaged Il-76 transport planes
https://t.me/shot_shot/56299
Interesting part that Pskov isn't somehwere close to Ukraine, but nearby to Russian border with Latvia and Estonia.
Also, another Mi-8 made it's last flight today:
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/345010

Already next year, Zelensky will have to show the whole world how to properly conduct free democratic elections in wartime. Grin
Last time when I checked, Ukraine laws don't allow to make ellections and change constitution under martial law.
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We have gone through that argument many times: A vote without free international observers, under recent military occupation, with testimonies of people being "persuaded" with little green men with guns is a joke. I do get that you may have a cynic vision of people's choice, my guess is that nobody ever asked you what would you like to do with your government and if they ever did you would probably pee your pants.
Already next year, Zelensky will have to show the whole world how to properly conduct free democratic elections in wartime. Grin

I fail to see the joke. Elections have happened quite a few times in wartime across many countries, across several history times. If you are interested, it is very rare than a democratic government changes during wartime - this is just statistical.

@BA, could you provide any evidence of "so much Ukrainian equipment captured"? But I guess is not that difficult given that you are so used to Trumps style arguments that saying "so much" could mean virtually 1 to 1000 pieces. All you need to add to sound really Trumpian is "like the world has never seen before" or "bigger than anything seen before" or "so massive that I do not even need to show it". Give it a try! It is easy!
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We have gone through that argument many times: A vote without free international observers, under recent military occupation, with testimonies of people being "persuaded" with little green men with guns is a joke. I do get that you may have a cynic vision of people's choice, my guess is that nobody ever asked you what would you like to do with your government and if they ever did you would probably pee your pants.
Already next year, Zelensky will have to show the whole world how to properly conduct free democratic elections in wartime. Grin


Don't we all just love Zelensky? There are the rumors, which may be true, that Hitler really escaped to Argentina at the end of WW2. Zelensky has it so easy in this modern world. Maybe Hitler won and didn't realize it.


Zelensky buys LUXURY MANSION in Egypt via his mother-in-law using Western aid money



https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-08-27-zelensky-buys-mansion-egypt-western-aid-money.html
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky reportedly purchased a luxury mansion in Egypt through his mother-in-law, with evidence showing Western aid money given to Ukraine was used to buy the property.

Egyptian investigative journalist Mohammed Al-Alawi initially broke the news following his in-depth research and interviews with sources familiar with the matter. He disclosed that the Zelensky family acquired a luxury property valued at around $5 million in the Egyptian city of El Gouna.
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We have gone through that argument many times: A vote without free international observers, under recent military occupation, with testimonies of people being "persuaded" with little green men with guns is a joke. I do get that you may have a cynic vision of people's choice, my guess is that nobody ever asked you what would you like to do with your government and if they ever did you would probably pee your pants.
Already next year, Zelensky will have to show the whole world how to properly conduct free democratic elections in wartime. Grin
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Murmansk is close to Polyarny, a legendary maritime base of Ruzzia, pretty much near the Artic, in the Karelia Peninsula (where most of the nukes of Ruzzia are deployed by the way). Murmansk region is home to some nuclear submarine forces of Ruzzia, also of spent nuclear fuel and both working and "out of order" equipment.

Today, someone smoke in the wrong place in Murmansk according to some yet unconfirmed news.

Well, finally. You finally want to uphold Russian law by picking on people smoking in a Russian no-smoking zone.

People go there to visit. From Tripadvisor, "Things to Do in Murmansk" - https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=Murmansk&ia=web.

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Murmansk is close to Polyarny, a legendary maritime base of Ruzzia, pretty much near the Artic, in the Karelia Peninsula (where most of the nukes of Ruzzia are deployed by the way). Murmansk region is home to some nuclear submarine forces of Ruzzia, also of spent nuclear fuel and both working and "out of order" equipment.

Today, someone smoke in the wrong place in Murmansk according to some yet unconfirmed news.
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That's why he HAS a universe, and you don't.

Does Ukraine simply want Crimea land? They don't seem to care about the people there.

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"All forces and services are in a state of combat readiness," Sevastopol Governor Mikhail Razvozhayev announced on Telegram. This week Ukraine touted that its forces destroyed a S-400 defense system in Crimea, and further that special operatives conducted an amphibious landing Wednesday night, and safely returned from the mission.
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Sure sure... Putler is all about care and people, everyone knows that. If you want to know about military and other loses you should ask the Ruzzian Government about how many soldiers have died, etc... - spoiler alert - they will not tell you.

I think Ukraine has attacked a legitimate target, that is for sure, but also kicked the Ruzzian Chief Psychos in their Crimean little balls. The equipment destroyed is quite expensive and even difficult to replace, unless you take one of the ones defending Moscow to replace it (he he). It is a show of effectiveness and the ability to undertake a quite difficult covert ops right in the anus of Ruzzia.



Don't you even know what war is about? War is about caring and protecting your country. Soldiers don't like fighting and dying. But at the base of it, they do it because they care, just like Putin cares by ordering them to fight to the death if necessary.

Zelensky does even worse with his soldiers and people. Ukraine doesn't have soldiers who are fighting and dying for Ukraine. Rather, they are fighting and dying so the US doesn't have to enter a war to steal Russia from the Russians. Can you even understand the difference?

As for destroyed equipment, Russia has captured so much Ukraine (US/Nato) equipment that the little Russia might lose in a particular battle is essentially as nothing. The problem for Russia is, the US and Nato have been sending old, out dated equipment to Ukraine. So, in the long run, it is essentially useless to Russia.

But look at what this means. The US and Nato are essentially destroying Ukraine in their wishful gamble that they might somehow possibly conquer Russia this way.

Wake up.

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Ukrainians deserve a chance to be free and choose their own destiny. That is real history, not made up referendums and name calling.



Ukraine IS free. But teasing and antagonizing Russia at the behest of the US is a STUPID way to use your freedom.

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Sure sure... Putler is all about care and people, everyone knows that. If you want to know about military and other loses you should ask the Ruzzian Government about how many soldiers have died, etc... - spoiler alert - they will not tell you.

I think Ukraine has attacked a legitimate target, that is for sure, but also kicked the Ruzzian Chief Psychos in their Crimean little balls. The equipment destroyed is quite expensive and even difficult to replace, unless you take one of the ones defending Moscow to replace it (he he). It is a show of effectiveness and the ability to undertake a quite difficult covert ops right in the anus of Ruzzia.

The thing that all five areas of the now-Russian-Federation areas have in common is that they _voted_ overwhelmingly to go with 'Putler' rather than the Bandarites when they finally got a chance to vote without the threat of summary execution at the hands of Azov hanging over their heads.  And that was before the Nulandist Ziocons and their clueless useful-idiot Nazi minions started rounding up kids for child-soldier duty.

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We have gone through that argument many times: A vote without free international observers, under recent military occupation, with testimonies of people being "persuaded" with little green men with guns is a joke. I do get that you may have a cynic vision of people's choice, my guess is that nobody ever asked you what would you like to do with your government and if they ever did you would probably pee your pants.

On the "Nazi" thing, again, it never made sense. The ZZs are at this point a Nazi army. Ukraine fought the real Nazis during WW II. Millions of Ukrainians were first "Holomodored" by Stalin, and then fought the real Nazis, the III Reich by the millions, even in Galicia and even those that in the first moments thought the Nazis would be preferable to Stalin (tough choice uh?).

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Ukraine’s human and material losses during World War II were enormous. Some 5 to 7 million people perished. Even with the return of evacuees from the east and the repatriation of forced labourers from Germany, Ukraine’s estimated population of 36 million in 1947 was almost 5 million less than before the war. Because more than 700 cities and towns and 28,000 villages had been destroyed, 10 million people were left homeless. Only 20 percent of the industrial enterprises and 15 percent of agricultural equipment and machinery remained intact, and the transportation network was severely damaged. The material losses constituted an estimated 40 percent of Ukraine’s national wealth.




Ukrainians deserve a chance to be free and choose their own destiny. That is real history, not made up referendums and name calling.

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Sure sure... Putler is all about care and people, everyone knows that. If you want to know about military and other loses you should ask the Ruzzian Government about how many soldiers have died, etc... - spoiler alert - they will not tell you.

I think Ukraine has attacked a legitimate target, that is for sure, but also kicked the Ruzzian Chief Psychos in their Crimean little balls. The equipment destroyed is quite expensive and even difficult to replace, unless you take one of the ones defending Moscow to replace it (he he). It is a show of effectiveness and the ability to undertake a quite difficult covert ops right in the anus of Ruzzia.

The thing that all five areas of the now-Russian-Federation areas have in common is that they _voted_ overwhelmingly to go with 'Putler' rather than the Bandarites when they finally got a chance to vote without the threat of summary execution at the hands of Azov hanging over their heads.  And that was before the Nulandist Ziocons and their clueless useful-idiot Nazi minions started rounding up kids for child-soldier duty.

I'm guessing that 'Putler' would probably agree to a re-vote if people question the 'free-and-fair' nature of the last elections, but I don't know the man so I couldn't say.  When he accepts the unconditional surrender from Ukraine we'll just have to see if one of the things he does is a re-vote.  Probably he wouldn't do it for the Galicia because he's afraid Russia would 'win' and nobody in their right mind would want anything to do with those cretins.  Best to shove them over to the Poles if possible.

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This thing is a flat-out ethnic genocide.  I'm way more sure of it now than when I called it back around the start of the SMO.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/z3lxDX3JGGh1/

You take a religion based on the concept of a 'chosen' race.  Then you brainwash and terrorize them as children with largely made up crap in their yeshivas.  Then you have them study intently with a bunch of pervy old wierdos for another decade.  What do you get?  You get a bunch of real freaks who are frothing with rage over things that may or may not have happened hundreds of years ago, and who are a significant danger to everyone.  Most especially 'the Jews' who have to take the brunt of the push-back.

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