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legendary
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September 05, 2023, 01:10:33 PM
What you're offering Ukraine to do? Sign act of capitulation?
How many more Ukrainians must die before this thought ceases to seem unacceptable to you?

A typical statement of a bully.

Let's picture another environment. Somebody comes into your home, ties you to a chair and starts pulling teeth, asking for all your money and for the location of your children so they can sell them to a brothel. You refuse and they ask the question you are asking. How many more teeth you have to lose before you give up? We can start cutting fingers too, how many more fingers until you start considering our proposal?


How many Russians have to die before they decide to go back home?


Fresh Russian joke. Grin
Putin calls Sunnak:
This is already funny. You should tell that in Ukraine and they'll be laughing after the first sentence.

Oh, I think they got the conversation wrongly translated:

Putin: Hi Rishi, how many tanks did you send to Ukraine in total?
Rishi: 24 in total
Putin: Mmm strange, reports from my most loyal generals indicate we have destroyed 20 with a "precision strike", 10 more with drones, 85 with artillery fire and another 100 just throwing rocks at them. I have the suspicion that the figures from the drone operators may be inflated.


Much better than the original. Here's my attempt:

Putin meets with Lukashenko
-Hey Vlad, how many votes did you get in the last election? I had over 90%!
-110% my friend. Even unborn children vote for me.

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September 05, 2023, 12:55:28 PM
Their delegation got rejected (and flee in panic):


https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1698874142957752322

Fresh Russian joke. Grin
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Putin calls Sunnak:
- Rishi, how many Challengers did you deliver to Ukraine last week?
-14, Vladimir Vladimirovich
- Hmm, strange, so another one is riding somewhere.

Oh, I think they got the conversation wrongly translated:

Putin: Hi Rishi, how many tanks did you send to Ukraine in total?
Rishi: 24 in total
Putin: Mmm strange, reports from my most loyal generals indicate we have destroyed 20 with a "precision strike", 10 more with drones, 85 with artillery fire and another 100 just throwing rocks at them. I have the suspicion that the figures from the drone operators may be inflated.
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White Russian
September 05, 2023, 12:05:16 PM
Their delegation got rejected (and flee in panic):


https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1698874142957752322

Fresh Russian joke. Grin
Quote
Putin calls Sunnak:
- Rishi, how many Challengers did you deliver to Ukraine last week?
-14, Vladimir Vladimirovich
- Hmm, strange, so another one is riding somewhere.
legendary
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September 05, 2023, 11:40:58 AM
How many more Ukrainians must die before this thought ceases to seem unacceptable to you? I think no one will accuse the Ukrainians of cowardice, they have been fighting bravely for a year and a half against a rival many times superior in strength, without the slightest chance of success. Maybe it's time to listen to the voice of reason and to the banal instinct of self-preservation? As before, Russia does not require anything supernatural from Ukraine - only to respect the interests of Russian-speaking citizens and observe strategic neutrality. Is it really worth dying for?
I ask you from other side. How many more Russians will have to die for imperialistic Putin's ambitions? Back to your question, it's not up to me to decide what is acceptable for Ukraine and what is not.
So, you admit, then, that while Russia might get a broken bone out of this, Ukraine will be dead and gone if they keep it up the way they have been.



Your optimism is encouraging, because the losses on both sides are classified, but sometimes terrible leaks come up, such as how the Ukrainian mobile operator Kyivstar recently let slip about 400,000 fallen heroes.
I'm wondering from where Kyivstar would have such information - thing that is kept like biggest secret in Ukraine. I assume that very limited circle of people in Ukraine knows real number of casualties and I doubt that Kyivstar have acces to these numbers.

The number of troops that existed before the war is basically known. Simple observations of how many fighting zones there are, and the 'pressure' that Ukrainian troops place against the Russians, is very telling. If Ukraine is keeping a large number of troops hidden for some final, gigantic battle, when is it going to make that battle happen? Looks like Kyivstar is within reason even if they are only guessing.

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September 05, 2023, 10:50:48 AM
How many more Ukrainians must die before this thought ceases to seem unacceptable to you? I think no one will accuse the Ukrainians of cowardice, they have been fighting bravely for a year and a half against a rival many times superior in strength, without the slightest chance of success. Maybe it's time to listen to the voice of reason and to the banal instinct of self-preservation? As before, Russia does not require anything supernatural from Ukraine - only to respect the interests of Russian-speaking citizens and observe strategic neutrality. Is it really worth dying for?
I ask you from other side. How many more Russians will have to die for imperialistic Putin's ambitions? Back to your question, it's not up to me to decide what is acceptable for Ukraine and what is not.

Your optimism is encouraging, because the losses on both sides are classified, but sometimes terrible leaks come up, such as how the Ukrainian mobile operator Kyivstar recently let slip about 400,000 fallen heroes.
I'm wondering from where Kyivstar would have such information - thing that is kept like biggest secret in Ukraine. I assume that very limited circle of people in Ukraine knows real number of casualties and I doubt that Kyivstar have acces to these numbers.
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September 05, 2023, 08:51:29 AM

Oh, and here are the long awaited peace talk negotiation team from Ukraine images that so many Ruzzians wanted to see. The meeting will take place somewhere in the occupied territories.



Their delegation got rejected (and flee in panic):


https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1698874142957752322

Sure, if you say so. In theory, according to all those post Ukraine would not have any equipment that could be destroyed... everything is "pre-destroyed" or "flee in panic" when they see the "precision posting strikes". It is only for unknown causes that Ruzzia calls more and more troops to the front and the map of Ruzzia shrinks and shrinks...

Speaking of which, why not travelling to Robotyne or Verbobe? I have heard that the weather is super nice there. It is better to go now, because tomorrow the Ruzzian passport may not be accepted any longer.

Oh, and do not go by train, it may burn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaGdKZ9AZpk
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September 05, 2023, 07:28:40 AM

Oh, and here are the long awaited peace talk negotiation team from Ukraine images that so many Ruzzians wanted to see. The meeting will take place somewhere in the occupied territories.



Their delegation got rejected (and flee in panic):


https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1698874142957752322
legendary
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September 05, 2023, 05:42:12 AM

1. Ukrainians fight for a variety of reasons. These include patriotism, money, their land, their families, their freedom and many other as good or as bad.
2. US is unlikely to send soldiers to Ukraine but certainly would not ever send conscripts. You are spreading fake information and trying to scare people - I guess some of them are stupid enough to believe such a thing.
3. Considering Germany after WW II is precisely why Ruzzia needs to be stopped here and now, to avoid them spreading their influence over half of Europe. Cold war was extremely costly, only a fool would want to repeat it. The cheap and smart alternative is to drive Ruzzia back to their borders while it demilitarises and destroys its economy itself in the way so that the do not come back for more.

And, again providing biased information. Czechoslovakia is not "gone" it is two states Czechia and Slovakia, which by the way have very good industrial bases, an educated population and growing economies in the context of the European Union. You know why? Because they are free from Ruzzia stealing from them and governing from Moscow - does this ring a bell to you???


Czechia also became center of EU porno industry, and I doubt girls on legalporno are doing what they're doing out of their free will...
so "democracy" brought a lot of bad shit there
I won't even go into what can be bought out of Ukraine on Dark Web and demand is mostly from Benelux countries and UK


If you want to be serious just google Russian Porn. The only difference with Communism is that the armpits are now shaved.

Corruption on the former Soviet satellites was endemic, to the point of having to wait 10 years to get a landline or a car... unless you had some "lubricant". Living conditions were egalitarian that is true - shit for all, dachas for a few.

Oh, and here are the long awaited peace talk negotiation team from Ukraine images that so many Ruzzians wanted to see. The meeting will take place somewhere in the occupied territories.

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September 04, 2023, 04:07:38 PM
What you're offering Ukraine to do? Sign act of capitulation?
How many more Ukrainians must die before this thought ceases to seem unacceptable to you? I think no one will accuse the Ukrainians of cowardice, they have been fighting bravely for a year and a half against a rival many times superior in strength, without the slightest chance of success. Maybe it's time to listen to the voice of reason and to the banal instinct of self-preservation? As before, Russia does not require anything supernatural from Ukraine - only to respect the interests of Russian-speaking citizens and observe strategic neutrality. Is it really worth dying for?

How many? Four times less than Russians.
Your optimism is encouraging, because the losses on both sides are classified, but sometimes terrible leaks come up, such as how the Ukrainian mobile operator Kyivstar recently let slip about 400,000 fallen heroes. And I am even more worried that the Ukrainian generals seem to be following the urgent need to demonstrate media victories, contrary to military science, and instead of expanding the foothold at Rabotino, they began to move assault squads towards Verbovoye, where they will fall into a fire bag and there will be a massacre.
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September 04, 2023, 03:18:37 PM

1. Ukrainians fight for a variety of reasons. These include patriotism, money, their land, their families, their freedom and many other as good or as bad.
2. US is unlikely to send soldiers to Ukraine but certainly would not ever send conscripts. You are spreading fake information and trying to scare people - I guess some of them are stupid enough to believe such a thing.
3. Considering Germany after WW II is precisely why Ruzzia needs to be stopped here and now, to avoid them spreading their influence over half of Europe. Cold war was extremely costly, only a fool would want to repeat it. The cheap and smart alternative is to drive Ruzzia back to their borders while it demilitarises and destroys its economy itself in the way so that the do not come back for more.

And, again providing biased information. Czechoslovakia is not "gone" it is two states Czechia and Slovakia, which by the way have very good industrial bases, an educated population and growing economies in the context of the European Union. You know why? Because they are free from Ruzzia stealing from them and governing from Moscow - does this ring a bell to you???


Czechia also became center of EU porno industry, and I doubt girls on legalporno are doing what they're doing out of their free will...
so "democracy" brought a lot of bad shit there
I won't even go into what can be bought out of Ukraine on Dark Web and demand is mostly from Benelux countries and UK
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September 04, 2023, 03:01:43 PM
Do you really think Putin didn't expect help from UK and USA after they blocked a peace deal that he signed?  

Use your brain and get your fantasies in order man - you're embarrassing mother Russia.

They got help way before March...you should do homework, you're embarrassing mother Ukraine
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September 04, 2023, 02:46:42 PM
What you're offering Ukraine to do? Sign act of capitulation?
How many more Ukrainians must die before this thought ceases to seem unacceptable to you? I think no one will accuse the Ukrainians of cowardice, they have been fighting bravely for a year and a half against a rival many times superior in strength, without the slightest chance of success. Maybe it's time to listen to the voice of reason and to the banal instinct of self-preservation? As before, Russia does not require anything supernatural from Ukraine - only to respect the interests of Russian-speaking citizens and observe strategic neutrality. Is it really worth dying for?
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September 04, 2023, 02:29:06 PM
Russia is continuing their aggression in one phase after another, they have destroyed important places like Don Bus Kaj Setu etc. Now they are moving towards the capital.
You wrote lot of text, but too bad that most part of it is nonsense. I'm not even sure that it was written by real human or some broken AI.
First of all, could you tell what the hell is Don Bus Kaj Setu? Don Bus sounds similar to Donbas, but I have no idea what is Kaj Setu. And in what alternative reality Russia is moving towards the capital?

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A small kitten like Ukraine can't do anything to a powerful military like Russia and a nuclear-capable state, so Ukraine should get out of its wrong foreign policy and get right To protect the nation in one's own country
What you're offering Ukraine to do? Sign act of capitulation?
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September 04, 2023, 12:08:40 PM
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Of course it's not a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian." They're volunteering for the benefit of the necessity of depopulation, because out of love they know that the whole world is suffering from over-population. Lol.

I don't think that Biden will be able to force a draft on Americans. And the Nato countries don't like the idea at all. This means that outside of a few strays that go to fight for Ukraine, all Russia has to do is keep on killing Ukraine soldiers. The problem for Russia is, when all the Ukrainians are dead, there won't be anybody left to surrender.

Consider Dresden in Germany in WW2. They thought they were safe, being rather far from Berlin, and near the Czechoslovakian border. But they got bombed right off the map, and now Czechoslovakia is even gone.

Cool

1. Ukrainians fight for a variety of reasons. These include patriotism, money, their land, their families, their freedom and many other as good or as bad.
2. US is unlikely to send soldiers to Ukraine but certainly would not ever send conscripts. You are spreading fake information and trying to scare people - I guess some of them are stupid enough to believe such a thing.
3. Considering Germany after WW II is precisely why Ruzzia needs to be stopped here and now, to avoid them spreading their influence over half of Europe. Cold war was extremely costly, only a fool would want to repeat it. The cheap and smart alternative is to drive Ruzzia back to their borders while it demilitarises and destroys its economy itself in the way so that the do not come back for more.

And, again providing biased information. Czechoslovakia is not "gone" it is two states Czechia and Slovakia, which by the way have very good industrial bases, an educated population and growing economies in the context of the European Union. You know why? Because they are free from Ruzzia stealing from them and governing from Moscow - does this ring a bell to you???


You forgot the biggest reason why Ukrainians fight.

4. They are stupidly believing that they have a chance, just like Americans listening to THEIR government and media about Ukraine think Ukraine is winning. Dying futilely for "patriotism, money, their land, their families, their freedom and many other as good or as bad" aren't good reasons to die. I mean, nobody will be there to take care of their families once they are dead. And they certainly won't take their land and wealth into the grave with themselves. Zelensky certainly won't help. He'll be just as gone as they are.

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legendary
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September 04, 2023, 11:30:59 AM
What happened?

Nazis got unexpected help from USA and UK?
Our Ukrainian friend prefers not to remember that in April 2022, negotiations between Ukraine and Russia were already at the final stage, until Boris Johnson flew from London to Kiev on an unannounced urgent visit and ordered Zelensky to curtail negotiations and fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.

Nope, I do recall the UK supporting Ukraine in whatever Ukraine would decide. The UK cannot force Ukraine into a war simply because there is not leverage to do so even in the case that this would be in UKs interest.

Ukraine is not fighting anything like a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian", they are fighting a war that is clearly possible to win to the point in which Ruzzia will think twice before trying another land-grabbing in a few years. Next time, whoever is in power will know what is the cost of attacking the neighbour and very particularly, how trustable are their sources of information when they told the old Putler dude that Ukraine would not resist and that Europe would not respond (that was an epic blunder).

Of course it's not a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian." They're volunteering for the benefit of the necessity of depopulation, because out of love they know that the whole world is suffering from over-population. Lol.

I don't think that Biden will be able to force a draft on Americans. And the Nato countries don't like the idea at all. This means that outside of a few strays that go to fight for Ukraine, all Russia has to do is keep on killing Ukraine soldiers. The problem for Russia is, when all the Ukrainians are dead, there won't be anybody left to surrender.

Consider Dresden in Germany in WW2. They thought they were safe, being rather far from Berlin, and near the Czechoslovakian border. But they got bombed right off the map, and now Czechoslovakia is even gone.

Cool

1. Ukrainians fight for a variety of reasons. These include patriotism, money, their land, their families, their freedom and many other as good or as bad.
2. US is unlikely to send soldiers to Ukraine but certainly would not ever send conscripts. You are spreading fake information and trying to scare people - I guess some of them are stupid enough to believe such a thing.
3. Considering Germany after WW II is precisely why Ruzzia needs to be stopped here and now, to avoid them spreading their influence over half of Europe. Cold war was extremely costly, only a fool would want to repeat it. The cheap and smart alternative is to drive Ruzzia back to their borders while it demilitarises and destroys its economy itself in the way so that the do not come back for more.

And, again providing biased information. Czechoslovakia is not "gone" it is two states Czechia and Slovakia, which by the way have very good industrial bases, an educated population and growing economies in the context of the European Union. You know why? Because they are free from Ruzzia stealing from them and governing from Moscow - does this ring a bell to you???
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September 04, 2023, 09:39:38 AM
What happened?

Nazis got unexpected help from USA and UK?

peace agreement was already settled, but UK and USA prevented it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQIqOB8PVLU

Do you really think Putin didn't expect help from UK and USA after they blocked a peace deal that he signed?  

Use your brain and get your fantasies in order man - you're embarrassing mother Russia.
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September 04, 2023, 09:04:27 AM
We know that Ukraine is an independent country but still they do not enjoy full sovereignty because it is surrounded by Russia. Russia does not want Ukraine to be against it.That's why Russia continues military operations, they are increasing the rate of attacks one after another, the goal is not to make any relationship with the West, especially the important places in Ukraine.There Russia is always attacking their important nuclear facilities, and they are threatening to attack one after another Russia occupied the Crimea in 2014 we may now be thinking that Ukraine wants to join the drama, so Russia attacked but not really the year of the start of war should be 2014 because since 2014 one after another These actions continue and when Ukraine is unable to accept they are considering joining NATO to build a strong presence against them.And Russia's weak point is Ukraine, that's why when Ukraine is in danger, the Western world countries have seized the opportunity, and they are helping Ukraine with various tools.Russia is fueling the Ukraine war to keep the war going and weaken Russia's position
I don't think that the current leader of Ukraine is a qualified leader because every policy he has taken in the past year has been wrong, and he has not completed a single policy As a result, the policy has increased the danger and the aggression of Russia is increasing and the way Russia is launching missile attacks one after the other, destroying the critical facilities of Ukraine and destroying them.The economic condition of Ukraine is suffering due to the way civilians are being killed, and they are going to see a terrible day of danger in the coming days No one will help when it comes
Russia is continuing their aggression in one phase after another, they have destroyed important places like Don Bus Kaj Setu etc. Now they are moving towards the capital. And Russia should remember Ukraine But they are one of the strongest and largest country in the world, so it won't be so easy to deal with them, so they should negotiate peace with them and avoid Russian aggression.
One area Russia fears is that the countries around Ukraine are all NATO members, so Russia does not want Ukraine to act independently and if Ukraine joins By joining NATO, they pose a serious threat to Russia. If the Western world continues to surround Ukraine with its energy and military equipment, it poses a serious threat to Russia.I don't fully agree that Russia is invading Ukraine because aggression only happens when the other side is very weak.Bombs Missiles and other military equipment NATO countries are constantly increasing the scale of war as a result of war Russia's aggression is increasing on them, as a result of this aggression, their economic condition, infrastructure, past terrible damage, social family disaster, acute food shortage, etc. have reached extreme levels and this aggression To stop the western world should be flexible and Russia should be flexible and take a decision through planned discussions so that people are not deprived of their basic rights.And the human rights guaranteed by the United Nations can be fully enjoyed by all citizens

A small kitten like Ukraine can't do anything to a powerful military like Russia and a nuclear-capable state, so Ukraine should get out of its wrong foreign policy and get right To protect the nation in one's own country The President of Russia is now a dictator who has turned his country into a state of injustice through various unjust actions which have made the common man helpless reached the stage
Finally I can tell Ukraine to come out of their wrong actions through constructive dialogue with their country people and Russia should give peace to the common people of Ukraine from their behavior and this aggression is very bad Stop it  I personally think this aggression is not allowed to continue, and it is a scandal and unpleasant and intolerable.



peace agreement was already settled, but UK and USA prevented it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQIqOB8PVLU
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September 04, 2023, 12:46:26 AM
We know that Ukraine is an independent country but still they do not enjoy full sovereignty because it is surrounded by Russia. Russia does not want Ukraine to be against it.That's why Russia continues military operations, they are increasing the rate of attacks one after another, the goal is not to make any relationship with the West, especially the important places in Ukraine.There Russia is always attacking their important nuclear facilities, and they are threatening to attack one after another Russia occupied the Crimea in 2014 we may now be thinking that Ukraine wants to join the drama, so Russia attacked but not really the year of the start of war should be 2014 because since 2014 one after another These actions continue and when Ukraine is unable to accept they are considering joining NATO to build a strong presence against them.And Russia's weak point is Ukraine, that's why when Ukraine is in danger, the Western world countries have seized the opportunity, and they are helping Ukraine with various tools.Russia is fueling the Ukraine war to keep the war going and weaken Russia's position
I don't think that the current leader of Ukraine is a qualified leader because every policy he has taken in the past year has been wrong, and he has not completed a single policy As a result, the policy has increased the danger and the aggression of Russia is increasing and the way Russia is launching missile attacks one after the other, destroying the critical facilities of Ukraine and destroying them.The economic condition of Ukraine is suffering due to the way civilians are being killed, and they are going to see a terrible day of danger in the coming days No one will help when it comes
Russia is continuing their aggression in one phase after another, they have destroyed important places like Don Bus Kaj Setu etc. Now they are moving towards the capital. And Russia should remember Ukraine But they are one of the strongest and largest country in the world, so it won't be so easy to deal with them, so they should negotiate peace with them and avoid Russian aggression.
One area Russia fears is that the countries around Ukraine are all NATO members, so Russia does not want Ukraine to act independently and if Ukraine joins By joining NATO, they pose a serious threat to Russia. If the Western world continues to surround Ukraine with its energy and military equipment, it poses a serious threat to Russia.I don't fully agree that Russia is invading Ukraine because aggression only happens when the other side is very weak.Bombs Missiles and other military equipment NATO countries are constantly increasing the scale of war as a result of war Russia's aggression is increasing on them, as a result of this aggression, their economic condition, infrastructure, past terrible damage, social family disaster, acute food shortage, etc. have reached extreme levels and this aggression To stop the western world should be flexible and Russia should be flexible and take a decision through planned discussions so that people are not deprived of their basic rights.And the human rights guaranteed by the United Nations can be fully enjoyed by all citizens

A small kitten like Ukraine can't do anything to a powerful military like Russia and a nuclear-capable state, so Ukraine should get out of its wrong foreign policy and get right To protect the nation in one's own country The President of Russia is now a dictator who has turned his country into a state of injustice through various unjust actions which have made the common man helpless reached the stage
Finally I can tell Ukraine to come out of their wrong actions through constructive dialogue with their country people and Russia should give peace to the common people of Ukraine from their behavior and this aggression is very bad Stop it  I personally think this aggression is not allowed to continue, and it is a scandal and unpleasant and intolerable.
legendary
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September 03, 2023, 07:45:14 PM
What happened?

Nazis got unexpected help from USA and UK?
Our Ukrainian friend prefers not to remember that in April 2022, negotiations between Ukraine and Russia were already at the final stage, until Boris Johnson flew from London to Kiev on an unannounced urgent visit and ordered Zelensky to curtail negotiations and fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.

Nope, I do recall the UK supporting Ukraine in whatever Ukraine would decide. The UK cannot force Ukraine into a war simply because there is not leverage to do so even in the case that this would be in UKs interest.

Ukraine is not fighting anything like a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian", they are fighting a war that is clearly possible to win to the point in which Ruzzia will think twice before trying another land-grabbing in a few years. Next time, whoever is in power will know what is the cost of attacking the neighbour and very particularly, how trustable are their sources of information when they told the old Putler dude that Ukraine would not resist and that Europe would not respond (that was an epic blunder).

Of course it's not a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian." They're volunteering for the benefit of the necessity of depopulation, because out of love they know that the whole world is suffering from over-population. Lol.

I don't think that Biden will be able to force a draft on Americans. And the Nato countries don't like the idea at all. This means that outside of a few strays that go to fight for Ukraine, all Russia has to do is keep on killing Ukraine soldiers. The problem for Russia is, when all the Ukrainians are dead, there won't be anybody left to surrender.

Consider Dresden in Germany in WW2. They thought they were safe, being rather far from Berlin, and near the Czechoslovakian border. But they got bombed right off the map, and now Czechoslovakia is even gone.

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September 03, 2023, 03:02:53 PM
What happened?

Nazis got unexpected help from USA and UK?
Our Ukrainian friend prefers not to remember that in April 2022, negotiations between Ukraine and Russia were already at the final stage, until Boris Johnson flew from London to Kiev on an unannounced urgent visit and ordered Zelensky to curtail negotiations and fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.

Nope, I do recall the UK supporting Ukraine in whatever Ukraine would decide. The UK cannot force Ukraine into a war simply because there is not leverage to do so even in the case that this would be in UKs interest.

Ukraine is not fighting anything like a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian", they are fighting a war that is clearly possible to win to the point in which Ruzzia will think twice before trying another land-grabbing in a few years. Next time, whoever is in power will know what is the cost of attacking the neighbour and very particularly, how trustable are their sources of information when they told the old Putler dude that Ukraine would not resist and that Europe would not respond (that was an epic blunder).
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