Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 148. (Read 73687 times)

Oh, the key is always to mix a little bit of truth, that can be understood easily and possibly easy to verify, with the disinformation and the blatant lies. That is part of the "Russian Culture" as be.open understands it.

For example: Ukraine sinks the Moskva, "Yes the ship has sunk, what a shame. Fortunately there were no sailors onboard and most of the equipment was recovered. But Ukraine had nothing to do, it was Igor smoking by the diesel tanks again". Or "Ukraine is lying because we only launched 10 missiles and they say the intercepted 20"...

My examples are not great, because it takes a cold war and a career in propaganda to get to their level, but you get the idea.

So, seems that one Kinzhal that they shot down previously wasn't just lucky coincidence. Meanwhile Russia is bragging that thye destroyed Patriot sytem with Kinzhal. But as always, reality is a bit different. Yes, partially it's true, but they didn't hit key things of system - radar, control station or battery. It was just one of 8 launcher. Now it's only question of damage they made.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/16/politics/patriot-missile-damage-ukraine/index.html
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1658416550188130310?t=E21VcS4tLcw5fLNAsdvVPg&s=19
Seems that Patriot became main target for Russia in Ukraine and they desperately will try to destroy it as it's really game changer in the sky of Ukraine.

What is really going on in the war... reasons behind it, and who is the aggressor. Watch the video linked below, and go to https://www.youtube.com/@LondonRealTV/videos and watch the many other videos with Col. Macgregor.


Colonel Douglas Macgregor - The US Government Lied About The Ukraine War | Part 1 Of 2

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4ETJA9g_zE
In this exclusive interview, we sit down with retired Colonel Douglas Macgregor to discuss the controversial truth behind the US government's involvement in the Ukraine War. A decorated military strategist and trusted expert, Colonel Macgregor shares his insights on the hidden agendas, political motives, and shocking revelations that have been kept from the public. Join us as we dive deep into this explosive topic, uncovering the lies and deceit that have shaped the narrative of the Ukraine War.
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Russia’s Destruction of the Ukraine Military

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https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/08/19/russias-destruction-of-the-ukraine-military/
Unlike the Whore Western Media William Schryver Provides the Accurate Picture of Russia’s Destruction of the Western-trained Ukraine Military:

The “Demilitarization” of Ukraine has been precisely the Russian mentality in Ukraine. Their foremost objective, from the very beginning, as explicitly articulated by President Vladimir Putin in his historic speech of February 24, 2022, was to “demilitarize” Ukraine – to destroy its army.
 
When the war began, the most capable, experienced, well-armed, and well-positioned Ukrainian forces were NOT in Kiev, but in the Donbass and Mariupol. They had been positioning there for months, with the ultimate objective of retaking the Donbass and Crimea – a goal never far from the minds of Ukraine’s ideological and political leaders.
 
Indeed, they spoke of it openly and without qualification. They strongly believed the strength of their armed forces, after eight years of preparation, had reached a point where it was capable of actually achieving that objective.
 
Their benefactors in NATO encouraged them to believe this – for it was also NATO’s fondest dream to raise its banners over the naval base at Sevastopol, and thereby wield dominance over the entire Black Sea and the Bosporus.
 
 
Pursuant to this and many other geostrategic objectives – arresting Russian resurgence foremost among them – NATO had been providing arms to Ukraine for years, and those arms shipments were expanded and accelerated dramatically in late 2021.

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Destroying the Mother of All Proxy Armies
 
And, in order to best achieve that objective, they effected a classic Russian stratagem to impede the possibility of the forces in northern Ukraine from reinforcing those in eastern and southern Ukraine once the fighting began.
 
THIS is why they conducted the elaborate “feint and fix” operation in and around Kiev.
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This is false information. The people have not had a say on anything that is happening. A fake referendum under military occupation has zero value and is an insult to anyone's intelligence.

Regarding KIA from RF, the best evidence of the losses is the forcibly recruitment of RF citizens, firstly by enlisting reservists which are mostly unready for a war, and after a million escaped the country, creating a law by which anyone would end up in jail if they would rather not go to Ukraine to kill without any reason and mostly to die for Putin for no reason - these later have zero chance of survival and run at the sight of an Ukrainian soldier (not to mention of a Bradley).

And while you dis-inform (or try to), the Storm Shadow is hitting far behind any line again, and again, and again... I guess the RF army must be thinking how to deal with an invisible enemy that carries a 1 ton warhead. The best they could figure out for now: try to hit Kyiv, where troops are not trained, tanks are not repaired and weapons are not stored.

And there is plenty coming.


I can certainly tell that Macron did try pretty much everything in the diplomatic book to make Putin understand that Europe and the RF have absolutely nothing to gain from Putin's "great idea" of invading Ukraine. Failed. However, it seems that the Primakov doctrines is pretty much everything Putin needs to know about the world.

But hey, nobody expects empires to accept they are no longer empires.


@Branko, sorry, after reading this you may have noticed that your beloved Putin's speech about the war is simply a repetition of this doctrine.

So my "Russian friends" what will you do now that all 6 Kinzhal "unstoppable" hypersonic missiles were all shot down in the latest attack in Kyiv during last night?It looks like your paranoia is at the highest levels attacking civilians with hypersonic missiles committing war crimes in pure "sun light" as everybody can see the videos of such horrendous war crimes.Even France who was neutral now is clearly engaging in helping Ukraine and the fact that the Patriot air defense system shot down all Kinzhal missiles says a lot about how the war is going for the Russian side.

Has the counteroffensive already begun?

It seems that Prigozhin, with his hyperactivity in the information field, did everything to make the Ukrainian General Staff believe in deep disagreements between Wagner and the Russian Ministry of Defense and made the neighborhood of Bakhmut the direction of the main attack.

It seems that it was not the smartest idea for the UK to transfer depleted uranium shells to Ukraine. Another billion dollars in NATO arms deliveries are being crossed out.

The Ukroids should go back across the border.  They are fighting mainly on territory where the people already voted to join the RF.  The people have spoken.  Looks like coke-head-in-chief has now canceled further Ukrainian election until further notice.  Gee, I wonder why.

If they were smart the Ukroids would have long ago made some good defensive lines in territories that Russia doesn't care about and crossed their fingers that the cost would be to high for Russia to take them militarily and that they could keep a bit more of a rump state when this thing is wrapped up.  But they are not.  Oh well.

 

Hard to know why you didn't put a link to the clown-shoe 'data' you generated.  http://my.ass/laughable_western_propaganda.pdf ?

Ukraine losses are likely over 300,000 KIA with a positive 2nd derivative lately due to the feeble 'greatest counter-offensive'.  The killed ratio is probably around 10/1 in Russia's favor (which is what happens when you can lob shells and 1500 kg bombs on an enemy from safe-ish rear area zones AND the leaders of the losing side want 'their people' to disappear and stop being a drag on the country's technocratic future.

One of the reasons why the Ukroids lie about casualties to such a ridiculous degree is that the management can grift more money out of the U.S. as wages for dead people and pocket the money the families would get when their males get killed by keeping the deaths secret.  Even more profitable when the missing in action are also missing organs, teeth, and other body parts.  As I read, Ukraine did some significant 'liberalization' to the laws around organ donations just in time before kicking off the current conflict with Russia.  How convenient.  Fuckin ghouls.

It's a diaster for both sides.

There's nothing embarrassing about defending your own territory.

Imagine invading someone else's, fighting for two years only to lose twice as many lives and ultimately fail at taking the city.  


That would be embarrassing. And save the "oh no that was Russia's plan the whole time." You aren't that dumb.

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The operation resulting in the loss of two aircraft and two helicopters (which Ukraine itself probably had little to do with) was indeed a win, but at the end of the day, it was one mission.  The failure modes from the Russian side are reasonably easy to understand and adapt to.

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The medium range cruise missiles supplied by Britain (and probably launched by their personnel) are really nothing special.  It's war, and shit happens.  The Russians will have to be more careful in their operations due to the new threat.  That will be a drag and will impact operational efficiency, but it will make little overall difference to the outcome.

The big threat here is that will induce other nations to follow suite with supplies of similar weapons systems which seems to be one of the design goals.  We'll see how many of the minor countries decide to go all-in with Britain and the WEF, and which ones are (wisely) starting to get cold feet as the gaze into the likely future of this conflict and beyond.  More and more their citizens are starting to do exactly this even as their WEF-supplied cabinet level bureaucrats comply with the wishes of their masters.

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The Bakhmut thing is turning into yet another embarrassing disaster for Ukraine.  With great losses they have mostly just managed to re-take some of the recently Russian-won terrain on the flanks in the general area.  Ukraine's actions have not even halted Wagner's mop-up of the last blocks of the city as of today.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/GPSbut22ufMY/

Seems like momentum has swung back in Ukraines favor.


https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-13-2023

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-14-2023

Where do things really stand? If Switzerland and other countries send Russian, sanctioned assets to Ukraine, what will it mean for the war? As it stands, Switzerland needs to be on the side of the US. But they risk retaliation from Russia if they act too much in favor of Ukraine.


Ukraine Can't Have Russian Assets Frozen in Switzerland, Bern Says

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https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/05/no_author/ukraine-cant-have-russian-assets-frozen-in-switzerland-bern-says/
Switzerland will not allow assets belonging to the Russian Central Bank held in Swiss banks to be used for "Ukrainian reconstruction," a spokesperson for the nation's State Secretariat for Economic Affairs (SECO) has said.

"The answer is no," the spokesperson told Russian media on Friday when asked whether Bern would entertain transferring Russian assets to Kiev.

"Your statement is a misinterpretation of [a government] press release dated May 10. The release notes only that 'in the EU there are ongoing discussions on whether assets of the Russian Central Bank should be invested and the proceeds used for the reconstruction of Ukraine,' and that 'Switzerland is following these discussions closely,'" the spokesperson said.

SECO announced Wednesday that about 7.4 billion Swiss francs ($8.23 billion) worth of Russian Central Bank assets are trapped in Swiss banks. Transactions related to the management of these assets were "immobilized" in February 2022 after Russia kicked off its special military operation.

Swiss authorities reported on the size of the Russian reserves stuck in its banks in accordance with a new reporting obligation introduced in late March.
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Gamma radiation had a significant increase in Termopil after the RF attacks to "ammo depots" yesterday. The causes of this increase in radiation is yes to be determined, but it is not good news certainly.

Meanwhile the so "greatly well armed and structured" RF army is sustaining a number "glorious strategic withdrawal from non-strategic positions" along the front. Not all news are good for Ukraine, but there are certainly quite a few good news (in the military sense, killing people is not good news ever). Ukraine hit a military training facility as deep as Luhansk with what I am guessing is one of the newer Storm Shadow missiles recently sent by the UK.

Quite a beast of a weapon.

https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1657643236989517825

Kim Dotcom comment about that

https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1657762895911088128

A little follow-up on the big mushrooms which have been popping up in Zio-Nazi Central (aka, Galicia).

Some are saying it is (or was) this facility:  Looks like this one is (or was) pretty well guarded:

  https://goo.gl/maps/AghZHj2dkkHP6ZBP7

Some are saying that there may have been a radioactive component to some of the work going on at some of the facilities.  If so, I'm sure it was totally peaceful and just a tireless toil to safely decommission the arms which the Soviets left them with.  No covert nuclear material trading in ultra-non-corrupt Ukraine or anything like that.  Decommisioning ICBMs is a  long long process...which is handy for people who fancy making dirty bombs in their utter desperation.

Some say that it may have been a storage point the depleted uranium the Brits are sending them.  This would be interesting.  I would not really expect the kinds of aerosolization that the alloys would undergo in battlefield use, but possibly some degree of shattering.  Either one would probably not be a value-add to the food products coming off those fields in future years, but the fallout would tend to be more geographically limited with larger particle sizes.

Of course I checked the winds.  Looks like the fallout would head generally West at slow speed for a while, then accelerate (higher winds) and hook up to the North then back in a Easterly direction.  In short, right over Southern Poland.  Some chances of precipitation along the whole route which is hugely important when figuring out fallouts.  In short, if the Russians did pop this thing and it is (arguable) toxic and/or radioactive in some way, they could hardly have picked better weather.  Better if it fell back on Britain, but the Poles and Brits can work that one out.  There will hopefully be a point in the future when the Brits get what's coming to them for sending toxic munitions which the Russians themselves dis-continued decades ago out of contamination concerns.  We'll just have to see if the Brits keep a stiff upper lip if/when the chickens come home to roost.

I always say that information provided by the enemy tends to be dis-information. However, this is Prigozhin going public against the main Chief Psychos of the RF army and openly criticizing the tactics and pretty much everything else. For any ordinary citizen this would mean a long sentence, as this may equate to a critic to Putin's arrangements or pretty much conceding that he cannot take care of the army.

https://youtu.be/gMLqaxHlQ68?t=83

Anything about a retreat or ammunition etc... means little, but how he speak of the RF regulars... there is a lot in there.

Here's a suggestion/request/plea to Russia:

Please do not reply in-kind to the likes of Britain's desperate attempts to escalate right now.  Plus it won't accomplish much.  Just log down on a public ledger the various insults (DU weapons, long distance missiles, terrorist truck-bombings, etc) and make it clear that these insults will be responded to in-kind, but at a logical point in time when the donation will be likely to be most effective against the actual perps.

Obviously NATO needs a response and are increasingly desperate to get one.  The question is 'why?'.  I suggest that it has to do with the writing on the wall for the future of NATO and indeed, for the WEF(-like) and UN(-like) technocratic criminals who are currently running the show.  Every day it gets more obvious that they are bent on destruction of 'their own' societies.

It would be better for the current power structures in the West if their populations experienced 'death by Russian' as is happening in Ukraine, but they'll do it some other manner if necessary.  Probably through more gene-altering injections among other things.  The victims of these programs are not, generally, your enemies or the perps behind the weapons supplies.

I believe that there surely must be an increasing large group of people, both within the governments and without, who are catching on and see what the future inevitably holds for them should the current power structures achieve their 'order-out-of-chaos' fever dreams.  Someday this group will feel themselves acutely backed into a corner beyond the point of control.  Such a block could finally start to move, and at a more opportune time, if they felt they had some tools to work with.  If there were a bunch of weapons stockpiled and earmarked for them to use to get rid of the Globalist creeps who currently have the upper hand, and who were completely responsible for NATO weapons damaging Russians right now, it would certainly be better 'pay-back' than and instantaneous response, and less likely to trigger a nuclear conflagration.

Beyond that, the more the West 'fears their own people', the more resources they need to put into said threat, and the more they will alienate their populations with resource starvation and increasing totalitarianism.  Also, the covid bio-weapon is going to disproportionately maim and kill the technocrat's oblivious worker-bee hive (including most of Silicon Valley) and the class of citizenry who love big-brother making the stage even better set for the right kind of societies with citizens who are not so pliable in the hands of the kinds of degenerate leadership who dominate today.

It is not surprising, it is surprisingly stupid from them. If Ukrainians were not united enough, there is another reason to be and fight and Europe as well. Yes, I have seen that the jets that cannot operate at a long range just fall the moment they get too close to the frontline. There is certainly a new use of the capabilities provided by modern weaponry. I guess the trolls here are still thinking that all those modern tools of war were "destroyed by precision strikes" or "sold and smuggled by corrupts cheating on Europe" so these planes must be another case of people smoking in the cockpit or something like that.

EDIT: Correction, some sources point to infiltration. So, yes, RF smoking in their own territory where they should not.

Something is happening in Bryansk oblast - Russian aircrafts started to fall there. 4 aircrafts just in one day had their last flight - Su-34, Su-35 and two Mi-8 helicopters. Seems that they were hit by Patriot system.
https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2023/05/13/Helicopter-crashes-in-Russia-s-Bryansk-near-border-with-Ukraine
Meanwhile Ukraine continue their progress around Bahmut in North and South directions.

You're so delusional. In all years from Soviet times Russia needed to show their power with all these parades. And now on second year of war in Ukraine they decided not to make huge parade and let their performance to talk. Strange. BTW, what performance? What significant they have achieved so far. And for some reason rest of world don't need to held such parades to show their power.

Their actions already can't surprise me... Videos of very powerful explosions is spreading on Telegram, but from what I understood it's fake, but terrorist state really hit something in Ternopil.

Apparently, the RF psychos decided to celebrate Eurovision by sending a missile to the home town of the group representing Ukraine right before they started the performance. There is nothing anyone could say that speaks louder than this nor better describe what has the RF become under Putin and the court of Psychopaths that currently compete for being the Chief Psychopath.

If there was any doubt about Europe's stance, this only serves to make even more clear what needs to be done.

RE news on the front line, Ukraine is driving some localized advances, nothing ground-breaking but 3 RF choppers and 2 fighter jets lost... quite a day for that "air supremacy".