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Prigozhin been posting videos for years now with his whereabouts and somehow he is still alive.
Prigozhin in Rostov. Tanks in the city center.

I also looked at information from all possible Rostov telegram channels, which confirm that a military helicopter was shot down near Rostov.

Also, Wagner PMC soldiers cordoned off administrative buildings in Rostov, including the headquarters of the Southern Military District (SMD). According to Prigozhin, PMC Wagner controls all military facilities in Rostov, including the airfield (the video in which he addresses was filmed in the center of Rostov).


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All sorts of sketchy videos are surfacing ...........
At this point in time question everything on anything you see on the magic black screen.
Prigozhin been posting videos for years now with his whereabouts and somehow he is still alive.
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All sorts of sketchy videos are surfacing on telegram so it's kinda difficult to judge what's real but it seems that Prigozhin's military column entered Rostov-on-Don (simply driving around a street "blockade" of parked buses) and have surrounded or taken over the headquarters of Southern Military District.

https://t.me/news161ru/33651
https://t.me/news161ru/33657

People on the street are just hanging out and enjoying the show.
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Unless Prigozhin says "I was hacked, sorry, ignore the shit I posted", that'd be boring.
From what we saw already, it would be very difficult to believe that he was hacked, it was deepfake or something. Now there is no way back for Prigozhin.
Telegram is full of posts about Wagner moving towards Rostov, they already crossed border between occupied part of Ukraine and Russia, but there is zero photos or videos, so, impossible to confirm or deny information.
There is another post where allegedly Prigozhin says that Russian air forces were ordered to open fire against convoy of Wagner
https://t.me/UkrNow_chat/1116591
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I have no idea how everything will end, maybe this story will have boring outcome, but my popcorn is ready.

Shouldn't be boring, it's a friggin' coup, these are always exciting... either Prigozhin or Shoigu will end up hanged on a lamppost, both excellent outcomes.

Unless Prigozhin says "I was hacked, sorry, ignore the shit I posted", that'd be boring.
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Interesting things happening in Russia today. Seems that conflict between Prigozhin and Ministry of Defense reached new level. Prigozhin accused Russian army for carying out strike against Wagner camp and result of it - ''huge number of cusalties. FSB already started criminal case against Prigozhin. Here is short summary of all his statements today:
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/06/23/wagner-s-march-of-justice
General Surovikin made video statement with riffle in his hands, asking Prigozhin and Wagner to stop what they're doing
https://t.me/rusbrief/129028
Meanwhile armored vehicles were noticed in Rostov and Moscow. And seems that they started blocking roads in Rostov:
https://t.me/news161ru/33631
I have no idea how everything will end, maybe this story will have boring outcome, but my popcorn is ready.
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^^^ He went to see if China really exists.

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In other news, Russia is ready to take Britain out if necessary... any day, any time. Oh, the pain and sadness. All those peace-loving Brits who have been played by their government, and that of the US. But I suppose that this will quickly turn into destruction for many peaceful people. However...

The Holy Spirit is strong, and just might want to take his people in Britain home to a better life. Or, Jesus might come at any time. Or He might bring peace in any number of ways.


End game in the Ukraine war approaches with lightning speed



https://gilbertdoctorow.com/2023/06/20/end-game-in-the-ukraine-war-approaches-with-lightning-speed/
According to the latest intelligence reports, Russia believes that the Ukrainian armed forces now intend to cover their failed counter-offensive in the Donbas by using US-supplied Himars multiple launch artillery and UK-supplied Storm Shadow cruise missiles, possibly in the longer range domestic version, to attack the Crimea.

If this happens, says Shoigu, Russia will consider both the United States and Britain to have fully entered the war as co-belligerents. And Russia will immediately respond to any such attack on its territory by destroying "the decision making centers" of the Kiev regime.   This is a fairly transparent threat to "neutralize" their government apparatus and personnel, logically including President Zelensky.

The statement by Shoigu leaves little doubt that we are entering the final phase of the Ukraine war as a war limited to the geography of Ukraine, and are possibly heading into a wider war with unforeseeable consequences both for Europeans and (finally) for Americans.

The ball is in the court of Washington and London.
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DEFCON ONE Vladimir Putin vows to deploy world's most powerful nuke 'Satan 2'...



https://www.the-sun.com/news/8421543/putin-worlds-most-powerful-nuke-satan-battle-threat/
VLADIMIR Putin vowed to deploy his hypersonic "Satan-2" nuclear-capable missiles in a chilling new threat to the West.

The Russian leader said that the new generations of the Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missiles - thought to be the world's most powerful - would soon be deployed for combat duty.

In a speech to newly graduated soldiers, Putin warned: "In the near future, the first launchers of the Sarmat complex with a new heavy missile will go on combat duty."

He also stressed the importance of Russia's "triad" of nuclear forces that can be launched from land, sea or air.

"The most important task here is the development of the nuclear triad, which is a key guarantee of Russia's military security and global stability," he said.

Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu also warned the military graduates that the "collective West" was waging a "real war" against Russia.

The new 208-ton hypersonic Satan-2 rocket measures 116 feet in length and can be loaded with 15 light nuclear warheads at once.

The weapon was designed to carry out nuclear strikes in countries thousands of miles away in the US and Europe.

It has the potential to obliterate the United Kingdom some 1,600 miles away in just six minutes.

And with an operational range of up to 11,180 miles, the deadly missile is reported to have no equivalent in the West in terms of the terror it could unleash.
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I have said that Stoltenberg wants the world to become militarised, not that NATO wants it. Certainly the allies of US do not all think in the same way.
Slow down, I'm taking notes. The opinion of the NATO Secretary General does not coincide with the opinion of NATO, okay, I understand. Grin

Apparently this is from the same series as a day after Blinken's peacekeeping visit to China, Biden called Xi an incompetent dictator, which caused a stupor in the presidential administration, which immediately tried to dissociate itself from Biden's words, saying that this was just his private opinion lol.

Yes take notes: The RF is single minded (mostly, I am not so sure lately), but the NATO is an alliance. Each country has their own interests and sometimes this are not aligned at all. Also, the personality and agenda of the GS may or may not be representative of all the agendas. Be sure that France, Germany and other would rather not have had any of this happening.

Biden said dictator. Quite accurate. The key takeaway from the visit is not that comment BTW. Why do you think he went to China? To talk about the weather or to tell China to stop selling "washing machines" to the RF?
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I have said that Stoltenberg wants the world to become militarised, not that NATO wants it. Certainly the allies of US do not all think in the same way.
Slow down, I'm taking notes. The opinion of the NATO Secretary General does not coincide with the opinion of NATO, okay, I understand. Grin

Apparently this is from the same series as a day after Blinken's peacekeeping visit to China, Biden called Xi an incompetent dictator, which caused a stupor in the presidential administration, which immediately tried to dissociate itself from Biden's words, saying that this was just his private opinion lol.
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Anyway, under the "shhh" policy, there is a 4 sometimes 3 days of lagging information, but there seems to be quite a few problems resupplying the RF frontlines due to the untold and un-filmed pressure (meaning destruction) of logistic networks, ports, railways, depots, fuel facilities... in Berdyansk, Melitopol, even in RF territory by RF soldiers smoking in the wrong place.

 My guess is that Ukraine understands that trying to ram directly into the RF defences in the occupied territories is a suicide, but the plan of degrading the response capabilities could (and I am just saying could) cause an unexpected, quite surprising,  collapse of sections of the RF front.

Also, it seems that Ukraine may take advantage of the now semi-dry land in the Kherson region.



That would probably work well if Russia would not be doing the same, at few times faster rate
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Sorry Branko, the Patriots probably  did not know they were hypersonic when they took them down. You must send an email to the Pentagon and write a poem telling them they cannot take them down.
The combat abilities of the Patriot are greatly exaggerated. Patriot's only accomplishments in the US Army were two friendly fire incidents in Iraq in 2003, when Patriot shot down one British and one American aircraft. Later, Israel shot down a couple more planes from the Patriot in Syria, and this is where all the combat achievements of the Patriot in the entire history of its existence actually end. The United States has never had good mobile air defense systems, because for the United States this is not a priority.

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If you are referring to Peskov's recent statement, then I think it is mainly aimed at preparing the Russian society for the speedy completion of the special operation in Ukraine. And yes, in the issue of demilitarization, Russia has achieved very significant success, and not only in the demilitarization of Ukraine, but of the whole of Europe. Stoltenberg said today that NATO arsenals are empty because of military aid to Ukraine.


US tends to actually do the opposite: typically the declared capabilities of most of their equipment are lower than they actually are. Also there is a great echo chamber for anything that may make the US army look too expensive, prone to mistakes and mismanagement of money. All of those have some truth, but mostly are similar to the "abilities" of the RF, Japan and even Germany.
Practice is the criterion of truth. And from the point of view of real practical success, the Patriot air defense system is the weakest in its class. Ukrainians need to understand this so that there are no unnecessary disappointments from inflated expectations regarding the level of protection of Kyiv from air threats.

Stoltenberg wants the world to become militarised and that happens when the budget reaches more than 2%. That is his goal, and that is the why of his words.
It's good that you understand what Stoltenberg wants and what NATO wants.

It is possible  that RF wants to "close" the operation, that does not mean it will finish. As the saying goes, you know how a war starts, but you do not know when and how it ends.
I don't think that Russia wants to "close" the operation, and even if it does, it cannot be done unilaterally. In such cases, one has to take into account the opinions of all interested parties, and Ukraine and the collective West that supports it apparently continue to want the conflict to continue and "consistently go up the escalation ladder."

There are rumors that Mihailo Podoliak is next.
Don't want to disappoint you, but Budanov is alive, he is doing fine and sending some greetings:
https://t.me/joker_ukr/8386
Podolyak is next? Maybe, but this joke was fun first two times, now it's getting boring.
Have I joked about Podolyak before? Grin

Rumors about Budanov's injury were not groundless. At the end of May, Russia launched a missile attack on the GUR building and on the same day Budanov disappeared from the media space, although before that he had willingly given interviews on a wide variety of topics almost daily. Then one of Budanov's subordinates, refuting the rumors about his injury, for some reason mentioned his "good appetite", as they usually say about the sick or wounded. After his appearance on the air after three weeks of absence, Budanov looks a little strange.

When will you z-tards realize that one person, be it Zelensky, Zalunzhny, Budanov, heck even all three of them don't matter that match in the grand scheme of things. Had any of them (or all three) died, another person would take their place and Ukrainians would have one more reason to fight.

But hey, if it makes it easier for you to sleep at night hugging Putin-shaped pillow and whispering "deep fake deep fake deep fake" - have at it.
I think nothing threatens Zelensky's health and life from Russia. Former Israeli Prime Minister Bennet at a meeting in Sochi asked Putin not to kill Zelensky, and he gave him his word. After that, Zelensky stopped hiding in the bunker and even occasionally appears in the immediate vicinity of the front line. Apparently Putin's word is the best talisman.

As for the rest of the media people in Ukraine, there was no agreement. I think that all people known for their public calls to kill Russians, such as Podolyak, Budanov, Danilov, Yermak and many others, are on the short list for targeted denazification and they have no one to blame for this except their long tongue.
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I have said that Stoltenberg wants the world to become militarised, not that NATO wants it. Certainly the allies of US do not all think in the same way.

Look, armies tend to self-justify themselves. If the RF army is sucking 11% of the RF budget, they are going to be constantly looking for the next war and the government always has the easy option of sending the army to whatever estate, republic or people are showing signs of cutting ties with Moscow. It is very expensive to maintain what it is effective an Empire under those conditions.

Of course all the merchants of death in the world will be looking to start a conflict. Stoltenberg is one of them and invading Crimea was quite useful for this guy and the other hawks.

When will Russia understand that wars in Europe are about block of European countries fighting in which the winner is always a third party called the US?  It is not a good idea to place a bet on Europe ignoring an invasion and the US not using the opportunity to bleed everyone out - even if you think of the plan carefully an unbiased, it is just plainly a bad plan to start with.

Anyway, under the "shhh" policy, there is a 4 sometimes 3 days of lagging information, but there seems to be quite a few problems resupplying the RF frontlines due to the untold and un-filmed pressure (meaning destruction) of logistic networks, ports, railways, depots, fuel facilities... in Berdyansk, Melitopol, even in RF territory by RF soldiers smoking in the wrong place.

 My guess is that Ukraine understands that trying to ram directly into the RF defences in the occupied territories is a suicide, but the plan of degrading the response capabilities could (and I am just saying could) cause an unexpected, quite surprising,  collapse of sections of the RF front.

Also, it seems that Ukraine may take advantage of the now semi-dry land in the Kherson region.

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Sorry Branko, the Patriots probably  did not know they were hypersonic when they took them down. You must send an email to the Pentagon and write a poem telling them they cannot take them down.
The combat abilities of the Patriot are greatly exaggerated. Patriot's only accomplishments in the US Army were two friendly fire incidents in Iraq in 2003, when Patriot shot down one British and one American aircraft. Later, Israel shot down a couple more planes from the Patriot in Syria, and this is where all the combat achievements of the Patriot in the entire history of its existence actually end. The United States has never had good mobile air defense systems, because for the United States this is not a priority.

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If you are referring to Peskov's recent statement, then I think it is mainly aimed at preparing the Russian society for the speedy completion of the special operation in Ukraine. And yes, in the issue of demilitarization, Russia has achieved very significant success, and not only in the demilitarization of Ukraine, but of the whole of Europe. Stoltenberg said today that NATO arsenals are empty because of military aid to Ukraine.


US tends to actually do the opposite: typically the declared capabilities of most of their equipment are lower than they actually are. Also there is a great echo chamber for anything that may make the US army look too expensive, prone to mistakes and mismanagement of money. All of those have some truth, but mostly are similar to the "abilities" of the RF, Japan and even Germany.
Practice is the criterion of truth. And from the point of view of real practical success, the Patriot air defense system is the weakest in its class. Ukrainians need to understand this so that there are no unnecessary disappointments from inflated expectations regarding the level of protection of Kyiv from air threats.

Stoltenberg wants the world to become militarised and that happens when the budget reaches more than 2%. That is his goal, and that is the why of his words.
It's good that you understand what Stoltenberg wants and what NATO wants.

It is possible  that RF wants to "close" the operation, that does not mean it will finish. As the saying goes, you know how a war starts, but you do not know when and how it ends.
I don't think that Russia wants to "close" the operation, and even if it does, it cannot be done unilaterally. In such cases, one has to take into account the opinions of all interested parties, and Ukraine and the collective West that supports it apparently continue to want the conflict to continue and "consistently go up the escalation ladder."

There are rumors that Mihailo Podoliak is next.
Don't want to disappoint you, but Budanov is alive, he is doing fine and sending some greetings:
https://t.me/joker_ukr/8386
Podolyak is next? Maybe, but this joke was fun first two times, now it's getting boring.
Have I joked about Podolyak before? Grin

Rumors about Budanov's injury were not groundless. At the end of May, Russia launched a missile attack on the GUR building and on the same day Budanov disappeared from the media space, although before that he had willingly given interviews on a wide variety of topics almost daily. Then one of Budanov's subordinates, refuting the rumors about his injury, for some reason mentioned his "good appetite", as they usually say about the sick or wounded. After his appearance on the air after three weeks of absence, Budanov looks a little strange.

When will you z-tards realize that one person, be it Zelensky, Zalunzhny, Budanov, heck even all three of them don't matter that match in the grand scheme of things. Had any of them (or all three) died, another person would take their place and Ukrainians would have one more reason to fight.

But hey, if it makes it easier for you to sleep at night hugging Putin-shaped pillow and whispering "deep fake deep fake deep fake" - have at it.
I think nothing threatens Zelensky's health and life from Russia. Former Israeli Prime Minister Bennet at a meeting in Sochi asked Putin not to kill Zelensky, and he gave him his word. After that, Zelensky stopped hiding in the bunker and even occasionally appears in the immediate vicinity of the front line. Apparently Putin's word is the best talisman.

As for the rest of the media people in Ukraine, there was no agreement. I think that all people known for their public calls to kill Russians, such as Podolyak, Budanov, Danilov, Yermak and many others, are on the short list for targeted denazification and they have no one to blame for this except their long tongue.

What if my assumptions about the inherent defect in the training of NATO instructors are not true and the lack of coordination is primarily due to the effective work of Russian electronic warfare? In addition to Bradley, to compensate for losses, the US emergency aid package presented by Blinken also includes secure communications. I also saw fresh announcements of urgent deliveries from Europe of minesweepers to replace those lost in the first days of the counteroffensive and a large number of air defense missiles. It seems that this is exactly what the Armed Forces of Ukraine need now, if not to break through the Surovikin line, then at least get closer to it and organize concentrated pressure. Let's see.

Rational considerations for sure.

Speaking of Surovikin, I consider him the real hero of the whole effort from the Russian side.  He chronically impresses me and although military history isn't one of my main interests, his performance matches that of any commander/planner/analyst I can think of off-hand.  Dima's recent post is illustrative of the kinds of traps I'm guessing are all over the place...if the Ukrainians can get that far:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PSpHyarlJE
I cannot classify myself as a fan of Surovikin's military talent, in my opinion his methods of adherence to brute force are too inelegant, although often very effective. Surovikin gets carte blanche if a positive result is important, in this he really has few equals. The "Butcher of Aleppo" is a real chain dog of war, it was he who developed the operation "Bakhmut Meat Grinder" for Wagner.
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There are rumors that Mihailo Podoliak is next.
Don't want to disappoint you, but Budanov is alive, he is doing fine and sending some greetings:
https://t.me/joker_ukr/8386
Podolyak is next? Maybe, but this joke was fun first two times, now it's getting boring.

Looks like deepfake video

When will you z-tards realize that one person, be it Zelensky, Zalunzhny, Budanov, heck even all three of them don't matter that match in the grand scheme of things. Had any of them (or all three) died, another person would take their place and Ukrainians would have one more reason to fight.

But hey, if it makes it easier for you to sleep at night hugging Putin-shaped pillow and whispering "deep fake deep fake deep fake" - have at it.
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Looks like deepfake video
This is also deepfake? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk3en-Qjm_I C'mon, just admit that another conspiracy theory blowed up like a bubble
BTW, if things told in this video is true is really concerning and again confirms that Russia is terrorist state.

Meanwhile, while Russians are claiming unconfirmed kills, it admits to its own losses. This time confirmed.

Russia has confirmed the death of the Chief of Staff of the 35th Army of the Armed Forces, Major General Sergei Goryachev in Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1671437317070880770?cxt=HHwWhIC8xcvYkbIuAAAA
Strange, according to Russian logic, Ukraine's counteroffensive failed completely, but their major gneral somehow got eliminated
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Talk, talk, talk. Is that all that Russia has? Do I sound like I want WW3 to go fully active?


Kremlin warns US and Britain will be seen as 'full-fledged' war participants if Storm Shadow and HIMARS missiles are used to hit targets in Crimea or Russia



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12214541/Kremlin-warns-Britain-fledged-war-participants-western-missiles-hit-Russia.html
The Kremlin has warned the US and Britain they will be seen as 'full-fledged' participants in the war in Ukraine if Storm Shadow and HIMARS missiles are used to hit targets in Russia or Russian-occupied Crimea.

Vladimir Putin's defence minister Sergei Shoigu warned he will target 'decision-making centres' in Ukraine - implying he plans to order his military to target Volodymyr Zelensky and his government leaders in Kyiv.

Shoigu said: 'According to our information, the leadership of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is planning to launch strikes on the territory of the Russian Federation, including Crimea, with HIMARS and Storm Shadow missiles.

'The use of these missiles outside the area of the special military operation would mean a full-fledged involvement of the US and UK in the conflict entailing immediate strikes on the decision-making centres in Ukraine.'

His claim that Crimea is part of Russia is disputed by the West - and international law - which regards it as Ukrainian.

Putin forcibly annexed the Black Sea peninsula in 2014.

So far Ukraine has used long-range British-supplied Storm Shadow and US-provided HIMARS to hit targets in Russian-occupied areas of mainland Ukraine, not including Crimea.

Shoigu's threat came as Russia admitted today that it had lost another colonel in an earlier Storm Shadow strike close to Crimea, on the Arabat Spit.

Col Sergei Postovalov, 53, is due to be buried tomorrow after he was fatally wounded in the 10 June strike which hit a Russian command post close to Henichesk minutes after Putin's deputy premier Denis Manturov had visited.
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There are rumors that Mihailo Podoliak is next.
Don't want to disappoint you, but Budanov is alive, he is doing fine and sending some greetings:
https://t.me/joker_ukr/8386
Podolyak is next? Maybe, but this joke was fun first two times, now it's getting boring.

Meanwhile, while Russians are claiming unconfirmed kills, it admits to its own losses. This time confirmed.

Russia has confirmed the death of the Chief of Staff of the 35th Army of the Armed Forces, Major General Sergei Goryachev in Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1671437317070880770?cxt=HHwWhIC8xcvYkbIuAAAA
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There are rumors that Mihailo Podoliak is next.
Don't want to disappoint you, but Budanov is alive, he is doing fine and sending some greetings:
https://t.me/joker_ukr/8386
Podolyak is next? Maybe, but this joke was fun first two times, now it's getting boring.


Looks like deepfake video
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There are rumors that Mihailo Podoliak is next.
Don't want to disappoint you, but Budanov is alive, he is doing fine and sending some greetings:
https://t.me/joker_ukr/8386
Podolyak is next? Maybe, but this joke was fun first two times, now it's getting boring.
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