Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 182. (Read 73759 times)

Dictators like Erdoğan are not too fan of freedom of speech but I find it kind of worrisome that one guy who is using his constitutional rights to protest (no matter what you think of his actions or politics, protesting is his right) and that's the reason Erdoğan is using to ban Sweden from NATO.

It's now just a matter of time that one Nato-hater or Erdoğan-hater goes and burns a quran in Finland and we are in the same exact position as Sweden. I am amazed they haven't already done that. Or maybe they haven't been covered by press. Political cartoonists in here are already using their right to mock Erdoğan (Not muslims though, they just hate Erdoğan).

But i guess we don't need NATO as much as Sweden. USSR failed invading Finland before and now we are way more prepared to defend our nation.

Ahaha, if a lone action of some lunatic can prevent Sweden from joining NATO, then Sweden is not so eager to get into NATO.

That's some real enlightenment!

Don't look at the skies. You've got too much slaving work to do for us to think about freedom possibilities. So, we're gonna cover the skies so you can't see out even if you look.

Chemtrails are getting too expensive. And nuking volcanoes would show you that we are serious about keeping you as our slaves. So we'll make the Ukrainian war to take your focus off the real reason why we're using the nukes.

Great insight.

That's the excuse used for putting chemicals into the atmosphere by those involved in the process.  The call it 'solar radiation management'...when it was no longer possible to convince the sheep 'nothing to see here, move along.'

Even though it's highly discouraged, a small fraction of living people sometimes stare at the sky for the same basic reason that dogs lick their balls; 'because they can.'

^^^ Yep!

Maybe Putin has been watching the US/Nato encroachment on the world, and is getting fed up with it.

For us peons, it's like a volcano about to erupt into WWx.

Which reminds me. If anybody is worried about global warming, all they need to do is nuke a couple of big volcanoes into activity, to get enough ash into the atmosphere to block the sun. Easy, right?

If I were Russia, I'd make kind of a working rule about the minimum of what Russia will control of the former Ukraine, via integration into the federation or otherwise, when the unconditional surrender happens:

 - Take the highest range of munitions supplied by NATO during the special military action, then draw a base-line from the Russian border of that distance.

Beyond that, I'd also promise fair elections to any potentially salvageable region of former Ukraine to see if the peeps vote to go down with the woke West, or integrate into the RF in some manner.  Probably a lot of the reason why the NaZiocon leadership of present-day Ukraine is are so active in ethic cleansing is that they hope to influence future voting along these lines.

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Another thing which occurs to me is that if Poland and/or Romania can be induced to 'get into it' with Russia by enjoining active combat in Ukraine, both of them have territory which would be very useful for Russia to have control of when the dust settles.  Namely the seaboards between Russia <-> Germany, and Russia <-> Bulgaria respectively.

I wonder if everyone is missing the whole picture when they look at all the Russian troops in Belarussia and thinking South.  I doubt that Putin has forgotten the recent insults to Kaliningrad, or the assault on undersea pipeline infrastructure, even if these things are a distant memory to everyone in the 'collective West'.

Given, given, given
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#/media/File:Ukraine-growth.png

Sneaky Russians...


Burning of Qur’an in Stockholm funded by journalist with Kremlin ties

Permit for demonstration at which anti-Islam provocateur burned Muslim holy book was paid for by far-right journalist linked to Moscow-backed media

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/27/burning-of-quran-in-stockholm-funded-by-journalist-with-kremlin-ties-sweden-nato-russia



Ukraine is a country with it's own government and military.  It hasn't been conquered by any other country since declaring independence.  Russia is trying to conquer Ukraine right now, which is why all the death and destruction is happening. That's the subject of this thread: "Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]"  NATO is helping Ukraine defend itself.  NATO is not attacking Ukraine.  Russia is.

How are the progress with the expansion of NATO to the East? Burning a Koran a week until Erdogan agrees looks like a great idea.

The CIA that interfered with Ukrainian elections since at least 2014, thereby conquering Ukraine, is not a Russian organization. How is it that you are one of few people who doesn't know that the CIA is a US organization?

Russia invaded Ukraine, not NATO.  NATO is helping Ukraine defend itself against Russian attacks. 

While I don't agree with the below article... that Nato is the greatest threat... I would say that it is one of the greatest threats to world freedom. Nato has destroyed many countries here and there, just to prop up the failing US banking system. Now they have destroyed Ukraine, and are trying to wipe Russia out.


NATO the Greatest Threat to Civilization

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https://www.theburningplatform.com/2023/01/26/nato-the-greatest-threat-to-civilization/
The day of communism and its spread as a religious cult is over, except in the West where Socialism is the means of the power of the state and to keep the people dependent upon that power the very exact way that communism worked. Despite the fact that communism collapsed it was so inefficient and deprived the people of even freedom to imagine and curiosity that is the seed of advancing society. Without that freedom to imagine and the curiosity to discover new things, society withers and dies.

The Neocons see only hatred and war. John McCain openly met with the Neonatzis of Ukraine and promised them the funding to destroy Russia. Nobody thinks about the people. It is always this ideological endeavor to destroy an opponent as if this were a Roman Gladiator Contest to the death. They expect the people to utter the same words – "We who are about to die, salute you."
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I will not answer to a post written in blue large letter on a thread that is not about typography. I will however report it if you keep on making inadequate used of it.


I am very serious, they can hold a beer while running through difficult terrain, look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGzRfvgnS_s

The US has mentioned sending a few Abrams, but that may take plenty of time. They run on Jet Fuel and are difficult to maintain. Mud and all it is fine, I think they are planning a summer campaign. My crystal ball says Mariupol would be a great achievement if they get around 200 tanks plus supporting combined arms, but may be just too early.

Oh, you mean, serious about the approval... yes of course, you need to stop watching the official propaganda and have a look at some press headlines of "the enemy":

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-64396659

Oh, yes of course... it is a defeat for Europe if you say so, but ... Are these tanks going to fight Italy or France? Will they be killing Spanish or Greeks? I would say this is more like a clear indication that the RF diplomacy is pretty much at its lowest point ever. You cannot even convince one of your largest trading partners of not sending their best land weaponry against you. What a victory.

I have said it many times, the RF and Europe are not ever the winners of this war and the key to stop both losses is in your beloved Putin's hands.


Poland has donated weapons to Ukraine beyond measure for its size and has been critical to authorise the Leopard II. Your fake / theory is absolutely inconsistent with reality

Same story time and time again
The WW1 Armistice was signed on 11 11   18.
The number plate on the car causing the war “AIII 118”
https://web.archive.org/web/20210513160643/https://www.edition-wh.at/product/das-auto-von-sarajevo/

If you bothered to read what you snipped, assuming you have at-par reading comprehension skills, you'll notice that your comment makes zero sense.

I only commented that the image, wherever it came from, was pretty much what I had in mind since a month or two after the special military operation started because it was by that time clear that the NaZioCons and their coke-head actor puppet 'president' were doing everything possible to ethnically cleanse the Slavic population and partition Ukraine down to more where it should be.

Wow, absolutely no reservations about swallowing fake news hook line n sinker, even when it was very easy to prove that its fake. You guys couldn't even bother do a simple reverse image search before accepting information that suits your world view. I mean in 2023 that's pretty amazing.

Seems about right and what I was expecting when Russia's earlier offers to end the war were rejected by the NaZioCons.  Now, after these freaks demonstrated the necessity, I would say that Russia gets a big chunk of the NE as well for better protection and sealing off of the cancer.

Necessary to give Hungary and Romania a few crumbs to get them on-board.

Eventually also the parts of Germany that Poland was given should go back to their rightful owners.  In righting that wrong perhaps Russia and Germany will land-lock Poland from the North...maybe leaving them one potential port opportunity at Szczecin for economic and practical reasons, but not enough territory to interfere with communications between Germany and Kalingrad.

I would suggest as well that White Russia take the nuke power plants (and nuclear waste-land) up there and the remaining plants in Ukraine be completely dismantled before handing over the territory upon which they sit.  If this does not happen, they will just be big dirty bombs to threaten the world with.  If Ukraine has proven one thing in this whole operation it is that there is no limit to the depths of evil that they are not willing to plumb.

Was all long ago agreed on, way before the war started. Same with Yugoslavia or any other war.

LOL this is from 2014 and it was based on a projection by former Russian MP Volodymyr Zhirinovsky.

https://voxukraine.org/en/updated-fake-a-map-illustrating-poland-s-intention-to-appropriate-the-western-regions-of-ukraine/

https://theins.ru/en/antifake/249703

2015 pro-Russian WordPress blog also incorrectly stating what the map represents:

https://02varvara.wordpress.com/2015/07/02/2-july-2015-an-interesting-map-that-surfaced-on-polish-tv/

Polish TV (TVP1) showing what will be the end result of the war.
Russia to get all of the south, Poland the west, Hungary the Hungarian speaking section of Ukraine to the natural border of the Carpathian mountain range and Romania a little chunk also.
Ukraine a land locked country with no friendly neighbors.