Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 196. (Read 77475 times)

^^^ Are these coincidences? So we see that it is not Russia who is the aggressor.

Another Putin critic 'falls out a window' to his death: Sausage tycoon plummets from luxury hotel - two days after his male friend died of a 'heart attack' on their trip to India
- A Russian politician who previously criticised the war with Ukraine has died
- Reports suggest that Pavel Antov fell to his death while on holiday in India
- Antov was Russia's highest-earning official and an MP in the Vladimir region

Sources please? Monsanto is not a landowner, is a biotech company. They are not interested in owning land, but rather selling their GMO seeds to people and companies that actually produce food.

 On top of that:

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/09/13/fact-check-ukraines-president-did-not-sell-farmland-us-companies/7942775001/


The US has supplied around 3 billion in weapons https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60774098.

US has never claimed to "love Ukrainian people" nor for that matter the people of any other country in the world. US is supporting Ukraine because they would rather not have the RF and particularly the current government pressing near the border of close allies and for many other reasons.

It is clear that there will be mutually beneficial trade agreements between EU, USA and Ukraine, which is absolutely normal between countries that share similar ideas and are becoming allies.

I feel so sad for you.

Don't you realize that 3 US companies have bought up 60% of Ukraine farmland? And don't you know that one of them is Monsanto, a company with proven records of spraying crops with poisons that kill and maim people? And you would invite them in, right?

And don't you realize that the US has supplied almost $100 billion in armament and cash to Ukraine? And didn't you know that the US is promising more?

Is the US buying up Ukraine land because they love the Ukraine people? Don't you realize that you and the Ukrainian people are selling your souls to the US?  You aren't dying in this war for freedom. All you are doing is dying for a different master.

I don't have to provide you with misdirection and disinformation. You are providing yourself with all of that. All you have to do is look at the news where the US is admitting to all of this... which is essentially making Ukraine a slave for them. Ukraine is being sold into slavery by the same people (US) who you think are helping you out. And they are getting your boys and girls to fight and die for them so they, themselves, don't even have to come in and die in your war that they provoked Russia into starting.

And you can't even see it, right under your nose.

The claim is baseless. Under Ukrainian law, foreign entities cannot own land. The president does not have the power to sell land, according to Frederic Mousseau, policy director at the progressive think tank Oakland Institute.

Check your sources.
https://fullfact.org/news/ukraine-land-sales-zelenskyy/

They invested in the Ukrainian AG industry. Ukrainian law bans foreign companies (or individuals) from owning land in Ukraine.

I feel so sad for you.

Don't you realize that 3 US companies have bought up 60% of Ukraine farmland? And don't you know that one of them is Monsanto, a company with proven records of spraying crops with poisons that kill and maim people? And you would invite them in, right?

And don't you realize that the US has supplied almost $100 billion in armament and cash to Ukraine? And didn't you know that the US is promising more?

Is the US buying up Ukraine land because they love the Ukraine people? Don't you realize that you and the Ukrainian people are selling your souls to the US?  You aren't dying in this war for freedom. All you are doing is dying for a different master.

I don't have to provide you with misdirection and disinformation. You are providing yourself with all of that. All you have to do is look at the news where the US is admitting to all of this... which is essentially making Ukraine a slave for them. Ukraine is being sold into slavery by the same people (US) who you think are helping you out. And they are getting your boys and girls to fight and die for them so they, themselves, don't even have to come in and die in your war that they provoked Russia into starting.

And you can't even see it, right under your nose.

And they are getting your boys and girls to fight and die for them so they, themselves, don't even have to come in and die in your war that they provoked Russia into starting.

I feel so sad for you.

Don't you realize that 3 US companies have bought up 60% of Ukraine farmland? And don't you know that one of them is Monsanto, a company with proven records of spraying crops with poisons that kill and maim people? And you would invite them in, right?

And don't you realize that the US has supplied almost $100 billion in armament and cash to Ukraine? And didn't you know that the US is promising more?

Is the US buying up Ukraine land because they love the Ukraine people? Don't you realize that you and the Ukrainian people are selling your souls to the US?  You aren't dying in this war for freedom. All you are doing is dying for a different master.

I don't have to provide you with misdirection and disinformation. You are providing yourself with all of that. All you have to do is look at the news where the US is admitting to all of this... which is essentially making Ukraine a slave for them. Ukraine is being sold into slavery by the same people (US) who you think are helping you out. And they are getting your boys and girls to fight and die for them so they, themselves, don't even have to come in and die in your war that they provoked Russia into starting.

And you can't even see it, right under your nose.

Misdirection, disinformation and just lies every time you reply, literally from a playbook of russian troll factory, just to spread confusion so that people wouldn't know what to believe. Trying to tire people with random links they would have to follow or just flood the forums with some already debunked conspiracies and lies.

So forgive me not taking your arguments seriously. If you knew any ukrainian people or even lived near by russian propaganda you might have some empathy that you could apply to this.

And your pseudo-intellectual "US propaganda" rants just shows the lack of education, which is something that's free in my country by the way.

^^^ Since the US is the cause of the war through the 2014 Ukraine coup, and the gigantic amount of funding, the US first, by backing out of Ukraine in every way, and by starting to repay Russia.

This war is really affecting the civilians heavily. Sometimes these world leaders engage in power tussle at the detriment of their citizens. My advice is for the rest of the world's leaders outside Ukraine and Russia to try and make peace between the two rival countries.

I am surprised there haven't been any threads opened about this yet.

In recent months, Russia has massed hundreds of thousands of troops and other military equipment on the Russia-Ukraine border. It is well known that Russia wants Ukraine to be part of its county, however Russian dictator, President Putin, has claimed that the troop mass is part of a training exercise.

The US and NATO allies are sending military equipment to Ukraine to help repeal an attack, and there is some talk about possibly sending troops to the region.

Update 2/18/22:
It appears there may have been some kind of false flag operation in Dumbas, Ukraine, an area controlled by a separatist group, today, possibly involving an alleged bombing of the car belonging to the leader of the separatist group. It is possible this is part of some kind of false flag operation to create a pretext for an invasion.

President Biden today said he believes Putin has made the decision to invade and will start an invasion in the coming days.

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Update 2/21/22:
It appears an invasion has begun

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Update 2/23/22:
It appears there are some kind of bombings in Kiev, the capital of Ukraine

Could be both.

And the reason why things seem to be a bit of trouble for BRICS is, they are trying to bring world money back onto a value-trade standard, rather than the current world money system which is a fiat, debt-backed, Ponzi scheme.

Actually, all that Russia and BRICS have to do is hold out for a while longer. The big fiat Ponzi that rules the world, now, will collapse due to its own weight... its fakery.

Do you think that American, European or Ukrainian media never lie, or do you have a special goal in life to expose lies only in the Russian media?

You were given a link to a completely official Ukrainian site, where they named the approximate number of bayraktars from 60 to 96. Everything else is guesswork. For some reason, you don't ask yourself that bayraktars have practically ceased to be talked about in the media. With a high degree of probability this means that they have all been destroyed (from 60 to 96), otherwise what's the point for the Armed Forces of Ukraine not to use them? In any case, only the General Staff of Ukraine knows the truth, how many bayraktars were in total and how many of them were lost. Shares such information, including on the HIMARS and aircrafts, during the hostilities no one will ever. Therefore, your conversations are at the level of faith. You also cannot refute the words of the Russian general Konashenkov, because you don't have the appropriate level of knowledge for this. What real evidence do you have that Konashenkov is lying, apart from your guesses?

For some reason, many in the West think that everything in this conflict is tied to Putin. Of course, I don't know the inner workings of the Kremlin, but judging by the Telegram posts of the former Russian President Medvedev (who 3 days ago met with the leader of China), Putin is generally a dove of peace against his background, and if such a repulsed hawk as Medvedev comes, then a total war can quickly flare up. If it seems to someone that Medvedev is nothing from a military point of view, then I hasten to remind you that in 2008 (08.08.08), under Medvedev, they dealt with the Georgian army in five days, which attacked the territory of South Ossetia.

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Do they (Oryx) also always "tell the truth" like the American press? Let's see what they write about Oryx on Wikipedia:

^ One of Oryx worked with a British military intelligence company. Do you even know that the British military are among the most active supporters of Ukraine and are never a neutral side in this conflict? Also, the authors are former employees of Bellingcat. Now let's see what opinion other information resources have about this organization:
Source: archive of American investigative reporter Emma Best

The Russian generals who planned the invasion of Ukraine likely told President Vladimir Putin the operation would be relatively painless and very easy. Meaning, there wouldn’t be many casualties and that Russian forces would quickly reach their objectives.

Ten months later, it’s become quite obvious how utterly wrong those generals were. Not only has Russia failed to reach most objectives, but Ukrainian forces have proven to be much tougher than estimated and, with an influx of Western weapons — primarily from the United States — Russian forces are reeling and have been pushed out of areas they initially captured.

But Moscow’s military misfortunes may be about to change, and soon: As winter sets in and the ground in Ukraine becomes hard and frozen, it looks as though Putin is priming his military for a major offensive that reportedly will include two of NATO’s newest members, Finland and Sweden.

The UK’s Daily Mail reported:

Vladimir Putin has dramatically escalated the Ukraine war again by raising his nuclear combat readiness and bolstering his troops by 350,000 to turn the tide on his failing campaign, raising fears of a global conflict.

The war-mongering despot warned the Kremlin will invest whatever necessary to increase its nuclear arsenal and vowed his much-hyped Zircon hypersonic cruise missiles will be available to his forces within weeks.

New military units will be formed on Russia’s western borders to terrorize and scold Finland and Sweden for seeking to join NATO in the face of Kremlin aggression.

The major buildup of forces means that the war will be escalating as well, both of which should send pause through the ranks of Western civilian and military leaders after weeks of decent gains by Ukrainian forces and a visit to the United States by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to plead for more weapons. The specter of a nuclear conflict has now been raised dramatically as well, given that the Zircon missiles are capable of intercontinental travel and can be tipped with nuclear warheads. Oh, and no missile defenses in American or Western arsenals can stop them, either.

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